Re: Need Assistance with Genealogy Databases - Not finding names #names #ukraine


In addition to Renee's comment about "Kevguberna" being a broken phone version of Kiev gubernia (governorate, province, etc), I'd like to add that the last name Coopersmith is likely not the original name.  Perhaps, it was changed in the US from something like Kupershmid/Kupershmit/Kupershmidt.  Zaslovsky was likely Zaslavsky.
The town, you refer to as Tative and Teteve, sounds like Tetiev, which was part of Tarashcha uezd in Kiev governorate from 1795 until 1922.  Belaya Tserkov is about half way between Tetiev and Kiev, 45-50 mi each direction.

Also, Odessa doesn't have an Ostrova suburb.

Mike Vayser

"From Bourbon to Blue Jeans: Bavarian Jews and Their Influence on American Culture," Sunday, May 23, 1 P.M. (PDT) #germany #usa #events

Emily Garber

This coming Sunday, May 23, 2021, the Phoenix Jewish Genealogy Group will present Suzanne Kelting Myers and her talk: "From Bourbon to Blue Jeans: Bavarian Jews and Their Influence on American Culture."
This virtual presentation is free of charge and open to all. To register, go to:
"From Bourbon to Blues Jeans: Bavarian Jews and Their Influence on American Culture” will begin with an overview of Jewish immigration to the United States: Sephardic Jews prior to 1800; the German-speaking Jews in the 19th century (post-1813 and post-1848); and the Eastern European wave between 1880 and 1920. Pressures from cultural and legal events in Bavaria, especially those relating to the Napoleonic Era, and to a lesser extent those relating to the German revolutions of 1848-1849, and how they affected the status of Jews in the region will be discussed.  The patterns of immigration, the conditions required to travel, and the ports of arrival in the United States by individuals and families will be reviewed. Jewish men who settled in the United States were identified by the state not by their religious affiliation but by their race (white) and therefore had all the rights that other white males in society held: citizenship, voting rights, and land-owning.  How this distinction supported their ability to flourish economically and to fully participate in civic life was significant.

Suzanne Kelting Myers, D.O. is fascinated by the immigration of Jewish immigrants during the 19th century and how they became involved in various vocations, especially those in the American West.  She uses her anthropology perspective as an approach to genealogy, her teaching background to communicate and educate, and her medical training to integrate science (including DNA) into her research.  She is the editor of Tidbits, the newsletter for the West Valley Genealogical Society in Youngtown, and has been involved with the San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society’s project to transcribe all Jewish burial records in the Bay Area.


Taking up genealogy seriously about 15 years ago, she has traveled to four European countries and more than a dozen states to pursue her family’s history. She has completed Boston University’s certificate program and is an alumnus of the ProGen study group. Her educational opportunities to genealogical institutes have been facilitated by a ProGenealogist scholarship in 2020 and the Donn Devine scholarship in 2021.


She is the owner of Expedition Genealogy and is Adjunct Faculty at Midwestern University in the College of Osteopathic Medicine.
Emily Garber, Chair
Phoenix Jewish Genealogy Group
a committee of the Arizona Jewish Historical Society

Re: Online list of emigrants from Germany - translation #germany

Daniella Alyagon

How can this database be accessed?

Daniella Alyagon

OC California JGS Meeting Schedule for the rest of 2021 #announcements #jgs-iajgs

Michelle Sandler

Sunday June 13th 10:00 am Pacific Time, Gill Bardage on DNA

Sunday July 25th 10:00 am Pacific Time, Megan Lewis on Doing Research
in the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

Sunday August 22nd 10:00 am Pacific Time, Serafima Velkovic on Doing
Research Online at Yad Vashem

Sunday September 19th 10:00 am Pacific Time, Greg Nelson on Procuring
records from Eastern Europe for the Family History Library in Salt
Lake City

Sunday October 24th 10:00 am Pacific Time, Arthur Kurzweil on the
History of Jewish Genealogy

Sunday November 21st 10:00 am Pacific Time, Aaron Ginsburg on Finding
Your Shtetl

Registration is required. Please register at Members
of OCJGS are free and non members are 5$. The 5$ fee can be paid on
our website at

Michelle Sandler
President OCJGS
Westminster California

New On-Demand Virtual Genealogy Research Workshops #general #education

Michael Moritz

Interested in learning more about how to research your family tree, but you would rather learn at your own pace? 

Register today for a virtual on-demand workshop, which you can watch whenever is convenient for you. The workshops are all pre-recorded classes with interactive examples, all of which are accompanied by slides that you will be able to download. Current availabilities include various one-hour on-demand workshops (viewable at your convenience) which are back by popular demand:

• Jewish Research 1: Introduction to the most important databases for Jewish genealogical research and how to make the most out of your searches. Discussion of general commercial databases, specific Jewish databases (with special emphasis on JewishGen), burial databases, Holocaust databases, Jewish newspaper collections and more.

• Jewish Research 2: Introduction to Jewish naming practices and how names changed when coming to English-speaking lands. We will touch on Yiddish and Ashkenazi naming practices, Eastern European surnames, the "Ellis Island myth," and explore how to find an ancestor's "original" name through records research, including naturalization records, name change records, gravestones and ship records.

• Jewish Research 3: Introduction to locating where your ancestors came from in Europe. Background discussion on finding a town of origin, European historical borders and how they have shifted through time. Exploration of the best sources to use in order to locate what town in Europe your family came from, and where to turn next once you have located that information, as well as specific guidance for each country/region.

• US Research 1: Introduction to the primary databases for United States genealogical research. Introduction to federal records research, including federal censuses, federal court naturalization (citizenship) records (including within the FamilySearch catalogue), military records and the Social Security Death Index.

• US Research 2: Introduction to state research, including an overview of vital records access rules in the United States, and an assessment of the different death record regimes. Introduction to state-level census records and state court naturalization (citizenship), as well as state military records (including draft records and veteran records).

• US Research 3: Introduction to local research, including locating the graves of ancestors (plus burial records and cemetery databases), searching newspaper records, and locating individuals in yearbook records and the US Public Records Index.

Part of a genealogical or historical organization? Group discounts are available!

For more information, including registration and fees: see

Michael Moritz (New York)

Note that while I am the Director of the Romania Research Division, this email is not affiliated with JewishGen.

OC California JGS May Meeting is Sunday at 10:00 am Pacific Time with Miriam Weiner #jgs-iajgs #announcements

Michelle Sandler

The Orange County California Jewish Genealogy Society May meeting with
Miriam Weiner is Sunday at 10:00 am Pacific Time. Registration is
required. You can register at Members are free and non
members are $5 payable on our website

Michelle Sandler MLS
President OCJGS

Re: Need Assistance with Genealogy Databases - Not finding names #names #ukraine

Renee Steinig

Glenn Mantel <glennmantel@...> asked his Coopersmith, Nierenberg, Zaslovsky, Greenfield, Birnbaum, Satz and Mantel relatives.

It's important to learn what you can about immigrants from their U.S. records before attempting to search in Europe. There are so many sources to turn to for more information -- vital and cemetery records, immigration and naturalization records, censuses, draft records, etc. etc.  

Two of the sources that would be helpful to your search:

1) The online databases that exist for a number of New York area Jewish cemeteries. Searching on these sites will often lead you to additional relatives. It will also show you the societies on whose grounds these relatives are buried -- often clues to place of origin. So, for example...

o Solomon and Golda (Gussie) Coopersmith can be found on the Mount Zion Cemetery site (, on the grounds of Congregation Agudath Achim Misode Lovon.  A number of Nierenbergs are also buried in that section, and a Nurenberg.

According to the JGSNY's Burial Society Database (, this society (or synagogue?) was associated with the town that's now Bila Tserkva, Ukraine -- . This town is about 50 miles from Kiev and was once located within Kiev Gubernia (province) -- hence the references you have found to "Kevguberna" and the like.

o Wellwood Cemetery's site ( lists, in addition to Meyer, these Coopersmiths buried on the grounds of Congregation United Brethren of Sodah Loven: Michael, William, and Louis (his brothers?) and Anna (a sister-in-law?). Also in the section: Rose Rappaport (Meyer's sister?). This organization is also associated with Bila Tserkva.

o Mount Ararat Cemetery's online listings ( include the adjacent graves of Bertha and Michael Birnbaum, who died in 1977 and 2004. They appear to be in a private plot.

o The Mount Hebron Cemetery site ( shows that Julius Greenfield is buried very near Etta -- perhaps his wife. They also are in a private plot, not on society grounds.

2) Also, since I'm JRI-Poland's town leader for Mielec, some comments on Michael Birnbaum....

Indeed, his U.S. WWII draft card says that he was born in Mielec in 1913. 
No Jewish vital records survive for Mielec -- just a relatively small number of civil records that reference vital events. But Jewish Records Indexing - Poland ( has a large collection of army draft registrations for Mielec, including what appears to be Michael's -- Meilech Birnbaum, son of Abraham Chaim Birnbaum and Schifra Thaler. These parents' names match those on Michael's Social Security record on Ancestry.

For information on more recent Mielec records, please contact me directly.


Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills NY

Meeting Sunday May 23rd at 10:00 am Pacific With Miriam Weiner #announcements #jgs-iajgs

Michelle Sandler

The Orange County California Jewish Genealogy Society is having their
May meeting on Sunday at 10:00 am on Zoom. The speaker is Miriam
Weiner talking about her updated database.

Michelle Sandler
President OCJGS
Westminster California

JewishGen Education Adds New Youthsite: "Genealogy for Gen X, Y and Z" #announcements #education #general

Nancy Holden

JewishGen Education has added a new Youthsite: "Genealogy for Gen X, Y and Z" for young family historians, their parents and teachers. This new program offers 5-minute videos on building a family tree with special guides for parents and tutors, and includes Lesson Plans for teachers.


We hope that you will take a look and pass the word to the JewishGen community.

Nancy Holden
Director of Education
Alan Raskin

Why Would Patronyms be Used Well After Formal Last Names Were Required?: Michalowicz vs. Leurie #names

Marilyn Robinson

Hi All,
1. My maternal grandmother's sister, Esther TAUFIELD, listed her maiden name as MICHALOWITZ on her daughter's birth certificate (New York, 7/1891; Gussie S.) Esther was 22 yr., making her birth year about 1869.

2. Also, her father Zelman/Solomon used MICHALOWICZ when he married in Tomaszow Mazowiecki, in 1867.

3. My maternal grandmother, Gittel/Gus & her family (Rivke [mother], Marie, Rosa, Josef, Mosi) were listed with the MICHALOWITZ surname, according to the ship's manifest, when immigrating to the US in 7/1891.
Their actual surname was LEURIE (or some alternate spelling), which morphed into LEVINE in the US.
Their paternal grandfather's name was Michal.

4. My grandmother's sister, Rose, was listed on her 8/1896 N.Y. marriage record as "Rosie MICHAELOWITZ".

According to some information in Jewishgen's info files, "In the earliest records (before surnames were in general use, in the mid-1820's), a father's patronymic might be used".

The above data was in the timeframe of 1860's-1890's. Why would they still be using a patronym and not their permanent surname at that time?

Marilyn Robinson

Searching: REICHMAN/REJCHMAN--Tomaszow Mazowiecki, Lodz, LEURIE--Lodz, MICHALOWICZ/MICHALOWITZ--Tomaszow Mazowiecki, Lodz, RUBIN--Tomaszow Mazowiecki, Warsaw, Lodz

Ownership of real estate in Poland in 1937 #poland

חיים סגל

I wanted to ask,
In 1937, could a foreign citizen own a house in Poland?
Haim Segal

Explanation of the name #names


I am researching what I think may be my paternal family and came across the following:
Yekutiel Zalman of Berdichev Wallis
1: There does not appear to be a last name, I am researching the last name Zalmanson. From what I can ascertain Yekutial Zalman was the father of Levi Yitzhak Zalmanson.
2: I understand that he was from Berdichev but am not sure what the Wallis represents. In some parts of the tree the last name of Wallis does appear.
I would appreciate any help.
Herman salmenson

Uncooperative Cemetery Personnel #usa

Jx. Gx.

I contacted the NYC cemetery where my ggf and ggm are buried and asked if they could check the burial file for my ggf and tell me the name of the congregation that he belong to because I'm certain it would be included in the actual original folder. The guy refused to give me that information.  All he kept repeating is that its "against our protocol" to release any information beyond the name of the burial society.  That bit of information is worthless because the society's name is already mounted on the entry gate to the cemetery section where my ggf is buried. It seems to me the guy doesn't want to get up from his comfortable chair and search through dusty old burial folders in storage.  Its easier for him to look at his computer database that has minimal information.  Is there any legal recourse in getting recalcitrant cemetery officials to do their job and help relatives with the information they need? 

Jeffrey Gee

JewishGen Talks: Researching Jewish Families in America-Focus on Southern Jewish Resources #JewishGenUpdates

Avraham Groll

We invite you to attend the next presentation in our series of JewishGen Talks webinars:
Topic: Researching Jewish Families in America: Focus on Southern Jewish Resources
Date/Time: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 @ 2:00 PM Eastern Time
Location: At Your Computer via Zoom!
Registration is free with a suggested donation.
About the Talk
Join us for “Researching Jewish Families in America,” a special series of JewishGenTalks highlighting archives, museums, and historical society collections of interest to family historians from around the country. This inaugural talk will focus on Southern Jewish Resources, and will feature repositories with collections about the Jews of South. The program is co-sponsored by the Southern Jewish Historical Society.

About the Speakers:
  • Jeremy Katz, Director Cuba Family Archives, The Bremen Museum in Atlanta
  • Dale Rosengarten, Founding Director of The Jewish Heritage Collection at the College of Charleston,
  • Josh Parshall, Director of the History Department, Institute of Southern Jewish Life in Jackson, Mississippi
  • Anna E. Tucker, Curator, Museum of the Southern Jewish Experience in New Orleans
  • Ellen Kowitt, Director of’s USA Research Division
Registration is free with a suggested donation.
Please click here to register now! After registering, you will receive a confirmation email about how to join the webinar.
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Birth Records For Leurie Michalowitz #records

Shelley Mitchell

Marilyn -

My paternal grandfather, David Michalowski, also told me a big city, like Kiev, but it turns out he was from Tiraspol in Moldava. His half sister, Lena, was born in Dubassary, Russia. Almost everything was found was on Ancestry. But I never found birth certificates anyplace.

I have a feeling that part of that may have to do with “names” in Manifests. Was that the mother’s name? Didn’t know her surname.
The fact that his brother and half siblings arrived with the same surname reassured mr it was the father’s name. Regardless of the sources, I have never found a birth certificate for any of them.

Shelley Mitchell, NYC
Shelley Mitchell, NYC    shemit@...
Searching for TERNER, GOLDSCHEIN, KONIGSBERG, SCHONFELD, in Kolomyya; PLATZ, in Delaytn; and TOPF, in Radautz and Kolomea.

Re: Online listl of emigrants from Germany #germany #records

Andreas Schwab

Due to a spelling error in the subject line the thread is contunued here:
Andreas Schwab, Montreal, Canada

Need Assistance with Genealogy Databases - Not finding names #names #ukraine


Hello and thank you in advance for any assistance you can provide! I have a somewhat detailed family history, but have been unable to find my relatives in the various databases. Perhaps some of you with more experience / knowledge can help? Ideally I'd like to find their names in the genealogy databases, in order to add more detail to my personal documents. Below are the relatives I'm trying to locate in Russia / Ukraine and Austria / Poland.

Coopersmith Family


Ruv:  = Head of other Rabbis in town – gives oral exam for Smicha (rabbinical ordination)


HaArav Mayer:  (HaArav=The Rabbi)  Rabbi Mayer Coopersmith:  Kievgeberna, Russia.  Hasidic Rav – Teteve  to Ukraine

Mayer was known as HaArov Mayer.  Ie:  The Rabbi Mayer.

M. Golda Zaslovsky – he was hired by her father to be her tutor.  Mayer Coopersmith was paid 18 Rubles per month from the Czar as a Pan Civil Court in Kievgebernya-County/Hamlet Tative – Town Chief Administrator of Civil Court.


Solomon Coopersmith:  Rav Shlomo – Hasidic (Lubuvitch)-Dad called him “Clean Shaven”  B. 1879  D. 6/3/45. age 66  of tuberculosis.  

Son of Mayer Coopersmith who had a Yeshiva in Kiev Russia. Mayer gave Smicha (rabbinical ordination) to Solomon. Solomon came to America as a translator; he returned to Russia to bring his wife and two children, Mike and Myer here in 1901.   They lived in the Bronx at 1530 Charlotte Street; and he taught Mishna on Henry Street and Clinton St. in Brooklyn.  When he was older and not well they bought land in Mountaindale part of Ellenville, N.Y.  Solomon and Golda brought Izzy  (Yitzach) Nierenburg (Golda’s cousin) to America and he worked the farm in Mountaindale .

Solomons’ brothers were Noah and Michael a U.N. Secretary. Solomon was a Kabbalist and an expert in Zohar, who would stay awake all night chanting in a closed room with a group of other men. The group he taught was: Agudas Achim Mesuda Sodem Loven.  This name is on the “two pillars” in front of the graves where the family is buried in Wellwood Cemetery, New York.  However, Solomon and Golda are buried in…. As Wellwood was not yet built. He was studying Zohar the Book of Splendor while in bed before he died.   He is buried with his head facing East and Goldas West. 


Joe Niremberg:  Scholar, Richard taught at DeWitt Clinton


Puchensky, Coopersmith  ?


Golda Zaslovsky Coopersmith:

b. 1882/3  d. Dec. 1957  Married: 1900?  mother of Louis, Mike, Myer, Willy and Rose:

Golda’s father had a Gilda Miga Pass – he was a liquor salesman and this pass permitted him to travel.  He was very wealthy – from Odessa.  When Golda married Zayde (Solomon), her father gave them a set of “gold” dishes.  She would sell one plate each year which would give them an income for that entire year. Her father was Moishe Zaslovsky.  Basha Nirenberg – Goldas’ mothers’ maiden name?


Michael Coopersmith:  B. 7/24/1901  D. 4/26/85  

Kevgoberna, suburb outside of Kiev, Russia

Bubby always told Uncle Mike to remember that he was named for Misha from Ostrova suburb of Odessa.  Wrote Masters for White Mgt. Corp.  Lady showed up at his funeral who we learned knew him for many, many years???


Myer Coopersmith:  B. 8/3/1903, Kevgoberna, Russia D. 11/?/58: after the 26th.

Burried Wellwood Cemetery.  Myer had a long term live-in relationship.  They did not marry, but she was considered his common law wife. 

Greenfield Family:

Julius Greenfield:  A Cohain

Born. 12/17/1892  D. 8/1/1973  PaDear was buried 8/3/73 Cedar Grove @ Mt.Hebron.  Queens, NY. Section 8 Hebron Block #104.

Parents:  Solomon 212 Delancy St. from Austria

               Fanny MN-Polica from Austria – B. 1867

Born: N.Y.C. Birth Cert. #48893.  Registered Levy Greenfield but called Julius.   

Abe Greenfield:   married Anna lived in Baltimore.  They adopted Miriam, who was brought from Poland by Aunt Bertha.  See Family Story.  Miriam’s’ parents and sisters were killed in Auschwitz.

Miriam Greenfield:  B. Poland 1935 ?  married Bert Botenheimer;  Wyewood 2100 Withondwood, Stevenson, Md. 21153  410-486-2396, parents and sisters killed Auchwitz. 

Bertha Greenfield:  PaDears’ aunt through his fathers’ second marriage?

Bertha went to Poland in 1937 to visit her sister.  Bertha brought her niece, Miriam to America – she was two years old.  Bertha, unmarried gave Miriam to Aunt Anna and Uncle Abe (Greenfield).  They adopted Miriam.  Bertha returned to Poland in 1939 and there married her cousin Mike Birnbaum.  They came to the states and lived in Bklyn. 
Mike Birnbaum:   B: Mielec sounds like Meletz, Poland.

Anna Satz:   Parents:  Dora and Jacob Satz

Brothers:   Sidney, Harry, Paul.  Sister: Ruth (Rudy).

Anna visited Nathan in Poland and married him there.  They came to America in 1939 where Bob was born.  Between Bob and Frieda Anna gave birth to twin boys who did not live.  Don’t know full story.  Anna is buried in Pinelawn Cemetery, Wellwood Avenue, Long Island, N.Y. next to Nathan.

Nathan Mantel:     B. 12/14/1913 Austria/Hungary – now Poland. 

Died:  8/2/76 age 62 of chronic acute heart failure, Long Beach Hospital at 3:45 a.m.

After coming to America in 1939, Nathan joined the U.S. Army when the U.S. entered WWII.  He was sent to Europe.  Nathan is buried in the Pinelawn Military Cemetery, Long ISland, NY.

Buried 8/3/76 – Grave 9A Section 2H.  Nathans’ parents, brothers and sisters were killed in Auschwitz. Mothers’ maiden name: Frieda Franzbleau. 

Glenn Mantel
Culver City, CA USA
Mobile: 310-435-8905

Re: Translate two Hebrew words #translation

Howard Orenstein

The Hebrew word is Tziyun (Ẓiyyun), as in:"Ẓiyyun le Nefesh Ḥayyah," novellæ on different Talmudic treatises, viz., Pesaḥim (1784), Berakot (1791), Beẓah (1799), the three republished together in 1824; "Dagul me-Rebabah" (1794), notes on the four ritual codices; "Ahabaṭ Ẓiyyon" (1827), addresses and sermons; "Doresh le-Ẓiyyon" (1827), Talmudic discussion.

The author of these works was Rabbi Ezekiel LANDAU:

Howard Orenstein, Ph.D.
McDaniel College
Westminster, MD 21157

This Sunday, May 23 - JGSNY Zoom Meeting #announcements

Phyllis Rosner

Jewish Genealogical Society NY Meeting
Sunday May 23, 2020 at 2 p.m. EDT
Zoom Webinar

Researching US Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) Records

Speaker: Marian Smith

Marian Smith will present an overview of three historical eras (1820-Present) of US immigration and naturalization records, illustrated with documents of Jewish immigrants. Using a timeline tool (included in the handout), she will demonstrate how plotting an immigrant’s life events can pinpoint which records may exist for that particular immigrant and where these records can be found. A question and answer session will follow the presentation.    

Marian Smith retired in 2018 after thirty years as a historian for the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS), later US Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). She now speaks to groups on US immigration and nationality records and leads the I&N Records fortnightly study group.

All are welcome; attendance is free, but registration is required:

Click here to register at our website

Submitted by:
Phyllis Rosner
JGSNY VP Communications
New York, NY

Re: Added by hand "MIXTE" on birth and marriage certificate in France #france #general


The handwritten mention could mean non-Jewish husband and Jewish wife (mixed couple two different religions).
Indeed, during the 1939-1945 war in France, the religion of the grandparents was, unfortunately, sought after to define the "Jewishness" of the person.

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