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Re: Travel from Shtetll to Sea Port #ukraine

Jx. Gx.
 

Michele has once again generously shared with us two additional resources that give excellent accounts of the hardships our ancestors endured living inside the Pale and during their voyage to America.

As a corollary to Michele's suggested readings, I recommend the book "Life is With the People: The Culture of the Shtetl" by Mark Zborowski and Elizabeth Herzog. As its subtitle indicates, it is a cultural history that describes in detail the everyday life of Jews living in the Shtetl. Its an old book so you might have a little difficulty finding a copy. 

https://www.amazon.com/Life-People-Culture-Mark-Zborowski/dp/0805200207/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Life+is+with+the+people&qid=1622482607&s=books&sr=1-1

Jeffrey Gee
Arizona


Re: yiddish translation #translation

Diego Schvarzstein
 

I've posted a vital record in Yiddish for which I need a translation. It
is on ViewMate at the following address:
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM93842
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.


Diego Schvarzstein
--
Diego Schvarzstein
Reserching Schvarzstein from Polonne and Lyubar, Fainsod from Bialystok


Researching grandfather Abram Josef Piterman #holocaust #poland

Michele Leighton
 

Dear friends. I am trying to find out information about my maternal grandfather Abram Josef Piterman. He was born on 14 August 1901 in Lukow. He and my grandmother Elizabeth Strauss Piterman and several other family members were all deported on the twentieth train to Auschwitz where they were subsequently murdered. My grandfather's deportation number was listed as 101.
If anyone has any information at all about my grandfather and his family the Pitermans or if there is anyone who has a connection to the family I would be most grateful to hear from you. Thanking you in anticipation and wishing you all blessings. Kind regards from Michele Leighton

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately with family information


Re: Researching my Adopted Grandfather #dna

Sarah L Meyer
 

As discussed below - if they did Y tests they would only have matched by coincidence.  However if they had done a Family Finder test (autosomal) they should have matched.  The good news is that there will be sales for Father's day  and if you are willing to pay for the tests - they can be done with the samples that FTDNA already has, so there would be no shipping costs.  It would be very helpful to confirm their relationship with the family finder test.  Yes I know that Ancestry is the preferred test, because you can upload to FTDNA and not vice versa.  However since your cousin is not really interested in genealogy, this requires nothing of him, other making it possible for you to pay for the test.

--
Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


ViewMate translation request - Russian #translation

Larry Cohen
 

Subj: ViewMate translation request - Russian

I've posted a vital record in Russian for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

Please translate word-for-word and respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you in advance and best regards.
 
- Lawrence Cohen


Re: Travel from Shtetll to Sea Port #ukraine

Susan H. Sachs
 

Thank you, Michele Lock, for posting the link to this report on steerage conditions on immigrant journeys!!  It seems like it can add greater depth and understanding to the family history of that era for anyone who has found that their elders traveled steerage class (as reported on the ships manifests). 

Susan Sachs


Re: Hiring a researcher for German Ancestry #germany

Myra Fournier
 

I would also be interested in hiring a researcher (private investigator?) to work on a mystery of a German relative, preferably someone who is local to Magdeburg, or who works with people who are.

Wolfgang Dehne (nee Klappholz) was my first cousin, born in Magdeburg in 1934 to my father's brother Alfred Klappholz and his non-Jewish first wife Ilse (nee Jordan).  When Alfred and Ilse divorced in 1941, Wolfgang remained with his father and was subsequently put into a Christian orphanage for protection.  In 1943, Alfred married Else (nee Lecker). In 1944, Alfred and Else were deported and murdered at Auschwitz. Wolfgang came under the care of a a non-Jewish foster family, the Dehnes. When given the choice in 1947 to stay with the Dehnes or move to the U.S. to be with our grandmother and other relatives, he chose to stay with the Dehnes. Wolfgang was never adopted by the Dehnes, but when he was in his 20's he legally changed his surname to Dehne.

I know a little bit about Wolfgang - that he married and divorced Hannelore Mollt in Magdeburg and was married a second time (not in Magdeburg), but I do not have details. He was thought to have had a least one daughter (not sure by which wife), but again, I have no information. Wolfgang died in a nursing home in Magdeburg in 2012.
I have been helped enormously by a prominent Magdeburg citizen who has been instrumental in raising funds to plant the solpersteine and to rebuild the synagogue.  She helped me obtain documents regarding Wolfgang, but we've both hit a wall. And, she has been so kind that I hesitate to ask her to do more.

I have more information - old addresses and neighbors' names - and have written certain organizations and people who have not responded. So, those would be leads to follow up. My goal is to locate any friends or relatives of Wolfgang's (or the Dehnes) and to learn more about his life, such as profession.

It is known that he refused to acknowledge his past or Jewish. In 2007 Wolfgang attended a solpersteine ceremony in Magdeburg commemorating his father and stepmother, after initially denying that he was Wolfgang Klappholz.  However, he refused to greet his stepmother's relatives who came from Israel for the ceremony. This tells me his past abandonment continued to traumatize him throughout his life, despite the fact it saved his life.

I am also coming to terms with the fact that my late father (his uncle) never mentioned him to me nor apparently kept in touch with him. I just found out about Wolfgang during the past year. I would now like to find out as much as I can.

Thank you,

Myra Fournier
Bedford, MA
mjfourn@...





Account Update & Recent Donor List #JewishGenUpdates

Avraham Groll
 

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If you are able to join as a member with a donation of $100 or more, you will be granted additional search features with our Value Added Services.  If you are not able to financially contribute this much, please let me know, and I will offer your complimentary Value Added Services for 3 months, as a thank you for being part of our community, and for participating in a financial way.

Your support will not only help you - but help so many others as well, and we thank everyone who has been dedicating their gifts in honor/memory of family and friends
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Re: Do you know the town name in Yiddish and wondering how it's called today or Vice Versa? #general

paveanyu@...
 

Hi,                                          31st May 2021

Re; Opalyi--Hungary--same name--near Mateszalka
       Albertirsa--Hungary  --same name--near Kecskemet
       Balmazujvaros--Hungary  --same name --near Debrecen

Best wishes
Veronika Pachtinger
London UK


Re: Researching my Adopted Grandfather #dna

Raina Accardi
 

There really isn’t anything murky about it. If your brother and your maternal first cousin both took the Y-Dna test at FTdna, they most likely should NOT match. The Y-Dna is only passed down on the fathers line. If they both took the at-Dna (the family finder test) on FTdna, then they should match. If they don’t, someone has an NPE in their lineage. If they tested on two different sites, get them to upload to Gedmatch or MyHeritage so you can compare. 
--
Raina Accardi 
Saugerties, NY
RAgenealogy@...
Poland: GEVIRTZMAN in Kobylin; JESINOWITZ/YESNOWITZ in Mszczonów; FELSENSTEIN in Parysów.
Belarus: GUTTWOCH/GOODMAN and ZISSERMAN in Volchin; BUSHMITZ in Vysokaye.
Ukraine: TRAUB and JANOVSKY in Kolki, Sofievka, Radomysl, and Zhytomyr; WEISMAN or ROSENBERG.


Re: administrative divisions in Poland throughout history #poland

Alex Magocsi
 

Perhaps the following book would be of interest:
Historical Atlas of Central Europe by Paul Robert Magocsi

Regards

Alex Magocsi, Hamburg Germany
(Not related to PR Magocsi, as far as I know)


Re: Cowan Report #general

Judith Singer
 

Both President Roosevelt and Congress, acting separately, had denounced the Kishinev pogrom a few years earlier but did not do anything about it. Their response to the Cowan Report was even more muted. Anything more would have been deemed intervention in the internal affairs of a foreign country, which was considered improper in international diplomacy. Further, the U.S. was in no position to intervene, as it was not yet a major world power and also had some internal affairs of its own that bore condemnation, i.e. the treatment of Blacks, especially in the Southern states.

By the way, Cowan's report referred not only to the pogroms but also described at length the Tsarist government's multitude of laws beginning in 1882 that increasingly condemned most Jews into a life of dire poverty. 

Judith Singer 

CHARNEY and variations in Lithuania and Suwalki Province


Re: Looking for “enfants cachés” (hidden children) in the South of France #france #holocaust

André Convers
 

New book on « Enfants Cachés » hidden children.

Andre Convers

Lorient, France


Meeting of the Krimchak Jews from Simferopol #ukraine #events

estherahr@...
 

Meeting of the Krimchak Jews from Simferopol

A meeting of the Krimchak Jews from Simferopol will take place on July 7,2021, at 10:00

in the Mishkanot Daniel Ruth Hotel, 10 Ben-Zvi Road, Tel Aviv.

The meeting will held in Russian, with a partial Hebrew translation.

This is a new organization
It's goals are:

  1. ts' goals are: Keeping the Krimchak Jewish tradition 
  2.  Contact with Krimchak Jewish communities  from allover the world
  3. Celebrations of Jewish Holidays and Memorial Days
  4. Strengthening the community of Krimchak Jews in Israel
Esther (Herschman) Rechtschafner


Re: administrative divisions in Poland throughout history #poland

Jill Whitehead
 

The Times Atlas of European History published by Harper Collins in 1994 covers all periods of history from 900 BC up to 1991 AD. There may well be a more up to date edition.

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK


Re: Philadelphia Bank Immigrant Passage Records online #records

Mark Halpern
 

The Jewish Genealogical and Archival Society of Greater Philadelphia indexed the records of the Lipshutz/People's Bank back in 2004 and donated the indices to JewishGen. The writeup about these records can be found at https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA/PhilaLipshutz.htm. It appears that Temple University should also have Bank records from 1906 through May 1923. It looks like these records were also microfilmed by FamilySearch, the genealogy arm of the Church of Latter Day Saints. You can always contact your local Family History Center to view the Lipshutz/People's Bank records after finding the records of interest to you through a search of the JewishGen USA Database.

Mark Halpern
Jewish Genealogical and Archival Society of Greater Philadelphia

 

On 2021-05-30 4:40 pm, Stephen Katz via groups.jewishgen.org wrote:

Records of the Blitzstein, Rosenbaum, Lipschutz/Peoples and Rosenbluth "banks" have been digitized and are online at  https://digital.library.temple.edu/digital/collection/p16002coll16. On that site, digitized records of the Lipschutz/People's Bank begin only with May, 1923. Does anyone know whether earlier records of the Lipschutz/Peoples Bank are online anywhere? Thank you.

 

Stephen Katz   
  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Document Translation Project adds lists from Chernigov 1888 #translation #ukraine

Beth Galleto
 

Dear fellow researchers,

Tax censuses (family lists) from the Chernigov uezd (district) in 1888 have now been translated and transcribed as part of the Chernigov Gubernia Document Translation Project. The Chernigov uezd was one of 15 uezds within the Chernigov gubernia (province).

The lists include 298 numbered families and 1801 individuals. Among these families there are 206 surnames. I extracted the surnames that appear in the translations and have attached the list to this email. The original pages can be seen online on the FamilySearch website in FHL film 1222347, item 12.
 

Previously as part of this project we have translated tax censuses from the Borzna, Glukhov, Konotop, Mglin, Oster, and Starodub uezds in 1882, and from the Krolevets, Surazh, and Novgorod Seversk uezds in 1888. The original books can be seen in FHL films 1222346 and 1222347. This work is possible because of generous donations from so many who are interested in records from the former Chernigov gubernia.

Those who donate $100 or more to the Chernigov Gubernia Document Translation Project on the JewishGen website are eligible to view the completed spreadsheets before they are uploaded to the website. Please contact me with proof of your donation if you want to see any of the spreadsheets as listed above. All donations of any size are appreciated and will continue to advance the project. You can donate through the following link:
 

https://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=22

The information from most of the previously translated spreadsheets has been uploaded to the JewishGen website. They can be searched by entering a surname in the JewishGen Unified Search. When the results page appears, click on those listed under "Ukraine Revision Lists". (The tax censuses or family lists are not actually revision lists, but they are similar enough to be categorized under this heading.)

Next to be translated will be tax censuses from the Oster, Gorodnya, and Sosnitsa uezds in 1888. These will complete the second film of the six that make up the Chernigov Gubernia Document Translation Project. We will then proceed to FHL film 1409779. That film includes family lists from the Sosnitsa, Konotop, Borzna, Kozelets, Glukhov, Mglin, Nezhin, and Novozybkov uezds in 1888 and the Mglin, Kozelets, Surazh uezds and a handful of families from the Krolevets uezd in 1906.

Best wishes,

Beth Galleto,
Project Leader

 


Re: Researching my Adopted Grandfather #dna

lydgateaction@...
 

Not an answer, but this story has the makings of an example of why not to get involved in the murky world of DNA genealogy - and why to avoid "urging" others to do so. Should carry a huge health warning as well as a nonsense warning. 

Aubrey Blumsohn
Sheffield, UK


Hiring a researcher for German Ancestry #germany

akestenbaum@...
 

Over the years, we have been able to trace my husband's paternal family quite comfortably, but his maternal side is quite a mystery with no family that we have ever found.  We do have some records but are missing a big part of the picture.  I am leaving much out in the following description but this will give an idea as to the complexities involved. 
His mother, who was born in Passau, identified herself as being Jewish, but after her death, we discovered much to my husband's shock that none of this was quite reality.  When we visited the Passau archives we learnt that she was born to an unmarried Catholic woman, was baptized and her mother put down the name of a Polish Jewish man as the father.  She  married him thirteen years later but our sense is they were not together for much of that time period.  They lived in Dusseldorf and then fled to Amsterdam, living in the area the Jews were kept during WW11  (the man was sent to Westerbork but was released, a fascinating historical story)  where they both died in the 1940s.  Last year we found that they were buried in a Jewish cemetery near Amsterdam with Hebrew gravestones.  As they left Dusseldorf, they were able to send my mother-in-law to live with that man's brother and wife in the United States.  
When my husband had his DNA tested, we discovered that it was impossible for this man to be his grandfather. Not quite certain why his grandmother used this man's name as  the father, but we do have some theories.  Every person who we have looked up as being a relative have basically all come up on my husband's paternal side.  It is as if his maternal side never existed.
I know that these missing pieces of his background are weighing on him.   I was wondering if anybody has a researcher they could recommend that we could work with to find some answers in a case like this.
Thank you very much in advance for any assistance.
Anne Kestenbaum
Toronto, Canada


Researching my Adopted Grandfather #dna

Connie Fisher Newhan
 

I've been trying to research my maternal adopted grandfather Henry ABRAMS for 40 years.  I have come up with nothing.  I reached out to my first cousin, the only person left who is male and carries my maternal grandfather's surname. 
 
It turns out he did Family Tree DNA years ago, as did my brother.  (My cousin is not really interested in research. He did the test at his wife's urging)
The curious thing is neither my brother or cousin show up as a match for each other, yet my mother and his father were siblings (both born to my adopted grandfather and the same mother)
 
How is it possible there are no matches. Would they have had different DNA tests?
 
Also, my cousin received a letter from the WIRTH Project telling him he is likely  related to others on the Y-DNA group J-L556.  
 
Any ideas?
Best Regards,
Connie Fisher Newhan (#1272)
California,  USA
FISHER/FISCHER/FISZER, FISZEL (Warszawa& Bedzin, Poland),S(Z)PRINGER,
KOKOTEK, HERSZLIKOWICZ, HAMBURGER (Bedzin, Lagiza, Zarki, Poland), GERSTEN
(Obertyn, Galacia) BARSKA/BARSKY/BARSKIY(Odessa), GOLDBERG (Sokolka?), FELDMAN
(Veliuona,Kaunas), CAHN (Koln), FRIEDSAM (Bodendorf, Sinzig Germany,
Pittsburgh,  PA), NEWHAN/NEUHAN/NEUHAHN (Hesse Cassel, Meimbressen, Germany,
Baltimore, MD),  BOHORODCZANER (Potok Zloty, Ukraine), LEVINE,
ROCKOVITZ, ABRAMS (Finland?),  

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