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Re: Meeting of the Krimchak Jews from Simferopol #ukraine #events

estherahr@...
 

correction:
The date is July 2, 2021
(the time is 10AM)

Esther (Herschman) Rechtschafner
Ps. sorry for my mistake


Given Name on Birth Certificates #poland

Wendy Newman
 


Hi there,
I have found 2 different index files on JRI for what I believe is the same person.  One file is for the birth of a Jakob Icek Ziskind in Opole on 20 Dec 1863
and the other is for Kielman Icek Zyskind on 13 Dec 1863.  the file number, akta 93, is the same for both and they look to be the same file, birth in Opole Lubelskie.
Can anyone explain why this would be?  Is it possible that Jakob and Kielman are the same name?  There is not much reference to Kielman as a given name.
I have known my relative to be Jakob, but not Kielman.
Thanks for any clarification you can provide.

Wendy Newman
SF, CA
searching Nudelman, Edelstein, Siskind


Re: Russian Military Records – World War One #russia #belarus

Janet Furba
 

Hi, ask for the advice from the Belarus State Historical Archive in Minsk.
Janet Furba,
Germany


Re: Travel from Shtetll to Sea Port #ukraine

Esther Brill
 

Hi Ada - I am working on a report for a course I took on JewishGen on Immigration and have come across several good websites.  Do you have the manifests?  - they might have costs, ticket agency etc 
One deals with ships, their history, ports, immigration laws, etc and can be found at Historical Ephemera Collections 1880s - 1950s | GG Archives (gjenvick.com)

Another great article, that I think someone alluded to is Szajkowski, Z. (1977). Sufferings of Jewish Emigrants to America in Transit through Germany. Jewish Social Studies, 39(1/2), 105-116. Retrieved April 19, 2021, from http://www.jstor.org/stable/4466952

My pgm went on Holland America in 1917 and I was lucky to get in touch with someone who writes a blog for them and he was able to get in touch with him and he was able to read the manifest and noted that my gm and her 4 children paid "
192 Dutch florins for the whole party of  which 75 florins was commission for the booking agency) 

I also wrote to the Museum of Polish History and a resource person there kindly directed me to the following map of the railway system  

Kolej_w_Kongresówce_1842-1918.png (1187×1403) (wikimedia.org)

Feel free to contact me privately for other notes I found which I am now trying to figure out where I got them 

Esther Levine Brill


Re: Great Genealogy Resources #israel #records #holocaust #hungary

Carole Bass
 

Shia and Sherri,

Thank you very much for your posts. If any Hungarian speakers could provide an overview of the vital records (where to find them, what areas and years are covered), I would be very grateful!
--
Carole Bass
New Haven, Connecticut, USA
bass.carole@...


Re: Picture of grave marker Newark, NJ #photographs

Myrna Waters
 

Hi,
I also have family at this cemetery.  It is in an area of Newark where I understand it is not safe to go to.  I believe this cemetery is neglected.  If you were able to contact someone recently who gave you the grave site information, could you share that information?  I know Moses Kurtzman and his wife, my great grandparents, are buried here as well as some of their children and spouses, and possibly other relatives.  
If someone is actually able and willing to go to this cemetery, I think they have a police guard around Rosh Hashanah, but I cannot vouch for that.  I believe this is the Vailsburg area of Newark, so maybe there is a local police station in that area that could advise on this.  Thank you and let me know if you get somewhere with this.
--
Myrna (Slatnick) Waters
NJ/NY/FL USA

Researching:  SLEPACK (or similar) Belarus/Bialystok area; SLATNICK/SLOTNIK (or similar) Minsk/Puchovichi area of Russia from 1905/1914 to NY & Newark, NJ and Canada; KURZMANN Jaslo, Poland and Drohobych, Ukraine (both formerly in what was the Galician area of Austria prior to WWI), KURTZMAN in NY/Bronx and NJ/Newark after 1905; SADOWSKY (or similar) from Belarus area of Russia/Bialystok 19th century to Newark, NJ 1905 or after.


Deciphering Russian records without surnames #russia

Joseph Walder
 

This topic has no doubt been covered elsewhere but I cannot locate where. I'm looking at some Russian-language records from about 1800 CE for Tarashcha uyezd, Kiev gubernia. I do not actually read Russian but I have taught myself how to transliterate the language and also how to recognize cursive script, so commonly I can pick out surnames of interest and then get translation help. But with records (revision lists and male-only censuses) from 1804 and earlier, there are (at least) two very big challenges: (1) No surnames. Patronymics only. (2) The handwriting style is pretty much indecipherable for me.

Are there guidelines for how to work with records when there are no surnames?

Is there any sort of guide to the archaic writing style?

Suggestions gratefully accepted.

Joseph Walder
Portland, Oregon


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Re: Looking for “enfants cachés” (hidden children) in the South of France #france #holocaust

elnsiegelheller@...
 

Yael,
My friend, Ruth Steinfeld, is a survivor and was one of the hidden children in France.  She have me permission to send you this message:

During WWII I was hidden in France in the region of Dept. ISERE. It was the organization OSE (Oeuvre de Secour Aux Enfants) which were able to get us out of Concentration Camp Gurs. My sister Lea Krell and myself Ruth Krell survived and were taken to the USA in 1946. My sister Lea passed away thirteen years ago. I am now 88.
We have had the honor of bestowing RIGHTEOUS AMONG THE NATION to Mr. and Mrs. Chapot who hid us. 
My e-mail address is ruthsteinfeld33@...
I am now on the board of OSE-USA along with my niece Judy Mucasey, my sister's daughter.
Thank you
Ruth Steinfeld


Re: Cowan Report #general

Michele Lock
 

I've found on the US State Dept's website a number of documents from 1906 having to do with the Jews in Russia, some of which concern pogroms, and some of which describe meetings with Russian officials about the pogroms:

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1906p2/ch119
--
Michele Lock

Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock and Kalon/Kolon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai, Lithuania
Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock in Plunge/Telsiai in Lithuania
Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman in Dotnuva, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine/Lev/Lew in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus


Re: Travel from Shtetll to Sea Port #ukraine

Jx. Gx.
 

Michele has once again generously shared with us two additional resources that give excellent accounts of the hardships our ancestors endured living inside the Pale and during their voyage to America.

As a corollary to Michele's suggested readings, I recommend the book "Life is With the People: The Culture of the Shtetl" by Mark Zborowski and Elizabeth Herzog. As its subtitle indicates, it is a cultural history that describes in detail the everyday life of Jews living in the Shtetl. Its an old book so you might have a little difficulty finding a copy. 

https://www.amazon.com/Life-People-Culture-Mark-Zborowski/dp/0805200207/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Life+is+with+the+people&qid=1622482607&s=books&sr=1-1

Jeffrey Gee
Arizona


Re: yiddish translation #translation

Diego Schvarzstein
 

I've posted a vital record in Yiddish for which I need a translation. It
is on ViewMate at the following address:
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM93842
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.


Diego Schvarzstein
--
Diego Schvarzstein
Reserching Schvarzstein from Polonne and Lyubar, Fainsod from Bialystok


Researching grandfather Abram Josef Piterman #holocaust #poland

Michele Leighton
 

Dear friends. I am trying to find out information about my maternal grandfather Abram Josef Piterman. He was born on 14 August 1901 in Lukow. He and my grandmother Elizabeth Strauss Piterman and several other family members were all deported on the twentieth train to Auschwitz where they were subsequently murdered. My grandfather's deportation number was listed as 101.
If anyone has any information at all about my grandfather and his family the Pitermans or if there is anyone who has a connection to the family I would be most grateful to hear from you. Thanking you in anticipation and wishing you all blessings. Kind regards from Michele Leighton

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately with family information


Re: Researching my Adopted Grandfather #dna

Sarah L Meyer
 

As discussed below - if they did Y tests they would only have matched by coincidence.  However if they had done a Family Finder test (autosomal) they should have matched.  The good news is that there will be sales for Father's day  and if you are willing to pay for the tests - they can be done with the samples that FTDNA already has, so there would be no shipping costs.  It would be very helpful to confirm their relationship with the family finder test.  Yes I know that Ancestry is the preferred test, because you can upload to FTDNA and not vice versa.  However since your cousin is not really interested in genealogy, this requires nothing of him, other making it possible for you to pay for the test.

--
Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


ViewMate translation request - Russian #translation

Larry Cohen
 

Subj: ViewMate translation request - Russian

I've posted a vital record in Russian for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

Please translate word-for-word and respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you in advance and best regards.
 
- Lawrence Cohen


Re: Travel from Shtetll to Sea Port #ukraine

Susan H. Sachs
 

Thank you, Michele Lock, for posting the link to this report on steerage conditions on immigrant journeys!!  It seems like it can add greater depth and understanding to the family history of that era for anyone who has found that their elders traveled steerage class (as reported on the ships manifests). 

Susan Sachs


Re: Hiring a researcher for German Ancestry #germany

Myra Fournier
 

I would also be interested in hiring a researcher (private investigator?) to work on a mystery of a German relative, preferably someone who is local to Magdeburg, or who works with people who are.

Wolfgang Dehne (nee Klappholz) was my first cousin, born in Magdeburg in 1934 to my father's brother Alfred Klappholz and his non-Jewish first wife Ilse (nee Jordan).  When Alfred and Ilse divorced in 1941, Wolfgang remained with his father and was subsequently put into a Christian orphanage for protection.  In 1943, Alfred married Else (nee Lecker). In 1944, Alfred and Else were deported and murdered at Auschwitz. Wolfgang came under the care of a a non-Jewish foster family, the Dehnes. When given the choice in 1947 to stay with the Dehnes or move to the U.S. to be with our grandmother and other relatives, he chose to stay with the Dehnes. Wolfgang was never adopted by the Dehnes, but when he was in his 20's he legally changed his surname to Dehne.

I know a little bit about Wolfgang - that he married and divorced Hannelore Mollt in Magdeburg and was married a second time (not in Magdeburg), but I do not have details. He was thought to have had a least one daughter (not sure by which wife), but again, I have no information. Wolfgang died in a nursing home in Magdeburg in 2012.
I have been helped enormously by a prominent Magdeburg citizen who has been instrumental in raising funds to plant the solpersteine and to rebuild the synagogue.  She helped me obtain documents regarding Wolfgang, but we've both hit a wall. And, she has been so kind that I hesitate to ask her to do more.

I have more information - old addresses and neighbors' names - and have written certain organizations and people who have not responded. So, those would be leads to follow up. My goal is to locate any friends or relatives of Wolfgang's (or the Dehnes) and to learn more about his life, such as profession.

It is known that he refused to acknowledge his past or Jewish. In 2007 Wolfgang attended a solpersteine ceremony in Magdeburg commemorating his father and stepmother, after initially denying that he was Wolfgang Klappholz.  However, he refused to greet his stepmother's relatives who came from Israel for the ceremony. This tells me his past abandonment continued to traumatize him throughout his life, despite the fact it saved his life.

I am also coming to terms with the fact that my late father (his uncle) never mentioned him to me nor apparently kept in touch with him. I just found out about Wolfgang during the past year. I would now like to find out as much as I can.

Thank you,

Myra Fournier
Bedford, MA
mjfourn@...





Account Update & Recent Donor List #JewishGenUpdates

Avraham Groll
 

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Re: Do you know the town name in Yiddish and wondering how it's called today or Vice Versa? #general

paveanyu@...
 

Hi,                                          31st May 2021

Re; Opalyi--Hungary--same name--near Mateszalka
       Albertirsa--Hungary  --same name--near Kecskemet
       Balmazujvaros--Hungary  --same name --near Debrecen

Best wishes
Veronika Pachtinger
London UK


Re: Researching my Adopted Grandfather #dna

Raina Accardi
 

There really isn’t anything murky about it. If your brother and your maternal first cousin both took the Y-Dna test at FTdna, they most likely should NOT match. The Y-Dna is only passed down on the fathers line. If they both took the at-Dna (the family finder test) on FTdna, then they should match. If they don’t, someone has an NPE in their lineage. If they tested on two different sites, get them to upload to Gedmatch or MyHeritage so you can compare. 
--
Raina Accardi 
Saugerties, NY
RAgenealogy@...
Poland: GEVIRTZMAN in Kobylin; JESINOWITZ/YESNOWITZ in Mszczonów; FELSENSTEIN in Parysów.
Belarus: GUTTWOCH/GOODMAN and ZISSERMAN in Volchin; BUSHMITZ in Vysokaye.
Ukraine: TRAUB and JANOVSKY in Kolki, Sofievka, Radomysl, and Zhytomyr; WEISMAN or ROSENBERG.


Re: administrative divisions in Poland throughout history #poland

Alex Magocsi
 

Perhaps the following book would be of interest:
Historical Atlas of Central Europe by Paul Robert Magocsi

Regards

Alex Magocsi, Hamburg Germany
(Not related to PR Magocsi, as far as I know)

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