Passenger Manfest Sofia Ship Trieste-Buenos Aires July-August 1921 #latinamerica #records


I need help about how to gain access to the passenger manifest from Trieste, the port of origin, for the Sofia Ship that departed from Trieste to Argentina in July or August 1921.
My understanding is that both my paternal grandparents traveled as children in the same trip with part of their families. However in the Argentinean immigration CEMLA database, I only see my grandfather family listed. No info about my grandmother's family.

My maternal family name should be Stisman or Shtitsman.

I hope that someone can advise me how to find this manifest.
Gabriel Dardik 
Weston FL
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Re: Jewish nannies from Europe #general

Lewis, Megan

There is an academic article in English on this topic: Rose Holmes (2018) Love, labour, loss: women, refugees and the servant crisis in Britain, 1933–1939, Women's History Review, 27:2, 288-309.  The citations would indicate which archives where the author found documents. We do not subscribe to this journal so I cannot send you the article.  Ask your local library if they can get it for you.

If you read German Traude Bollauf wrote a book on German/Austrian Jews who went to England to work as domestics:  Dienstmädchen-Emigration: die Flucht jüdischer Frauen aus Österreich und Deutschland nach England 1938/39 (2010).

Oral histories are another option.  The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum has thousands you can listen to from home via our Collections Search catalog

Megan Lewis

tracking a single female immigrant relative #usa

Rod MacNeil

I would be interested in hearing thoughts on tracing the life of a single female relative who emigrated to the United States from Horodenka (then Poland, now Ukraine) in 1920.
This relative's father, Hersch Melzer, had come earlier and sadly died very young within a few years (1906).  He is buried in Mt. Zion Cemetery in Queens, NY.
It appears that his wife (Feige Halpern) and their three children (Solomon, Leib and Jente) were preparing to come the US when news of his death cancelled their trip.
Their one daughter (Jente, age 17) came in the fall of 1920 with her single uncle on the same passage as his sister-in-law, my great-grandmother, Blima Hartenstein Halpern, and three of her children.  The uncle went to California after a few years and seems to have disappeared from the family's life.
I have the birth records of the parents and the children of the Melzer/Halpern family (Horodenka, then Galicia, Austria) as well as the manifest of the daughter.  I have searched the archives of this list to see how other woman with the name "Jente" translated that name in America.  The most common names, based upon the posts I read, are Yetta, Etta, Jennie and Henrietta. 
*There is a Yetta Meltzer, born in the US in 1903/died 1987 who is not the person I am searching--different family.*
I am not aware that her mother or two brothers emigrated to America.  
I do know the burial locations of the other Halpern/Hartenstein family members in the Horodenker, Progressive Horodenker and Zion's Bruder Bund landsmanshaftn in various Brooklyn and Queens burial cemeteries.
The most promising approach, I think, would be to:
1. search through all the appropriate marriage records (most likely focused on New York), 
2. search the Social Security claims index in the hope of finding the parent's names,
3. search naturalization files; unless she got married right away, she would have needed to go through the naturalization process (assuming she lived long enough).
Am I missing another strategy?  She is proving to be hard to find after her arrival.
Rod MacNeil
Philadelphia, PA USA

Re: Holocaust Survivors and Victims #holocaust


A dear friend of mine, now deceased, fled with his family from Austria to Cardiff, Wales, the same week the Germans arrived.  He was 9 years old and had two younger brothers.  The three were put into foster care for about a year while their father was in the Royal Army and their mother tried to find work and establish herself enough to take back her children.  

My friend was tremendously traumatized by the experience, even though he never set foot in a camp. Despite the fact that he was essentially a citizen of the world, who held British, Israeli and American passports and spoke six languages, he was only really at home in Israel. I consider him both a victim and a survivor.  

Do we really have to classify people as one or the other?
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC

Re: Poviaty Vil near Druia (Druja) #belarus

Michele Lock

Druya is now part of Belarus, and located near the Latvian border. About 10 miles southeast of Druya is the village now called Povyat'e, which Jewishgen transcribed as Poviaty. The Tzypin family was living in this village in 1888. To see the where the village is, you have to zoom in a lot on the town name on Google Maps.

Sharkov is a town in Belarus located about 40 miles south of Polatsk; Druya is about 50 miles northwest of Polatsk. Abram Tsypin's family was originally from the town of Sharkov, and he was still considered a member of that town's Jewish community (JC). In the Russian Empire, all Jews had to belong to a Jewish community, even if they moved away. I believe they could try to re-register in a new community, but apparently this was not so easy to do, though others may have more information about this. 

Michele Lock

Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock and Kalon/Kolon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai, Lithuania
Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock in Plunge/Telsiai in Lithuania
Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman in Dotnuva, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine/Lev/Lew in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus

Please translate these headstones for me. #translation

Marilyn Golden

I am researching Jacob and Sarah Pattleson and Lazurus Benfeld (brother of Sarah).  Please help and translate these headstones for me. 
Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Marilyn Mazer Golden, Membership VP
Jewish Genealogical and Archival Society of Greater Philadelphia
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

Manifest for Louis FINKEL #records #usa

David Ellis

I am seeking the immigration manifest for my great-grandfather Louis FINKEL (c.1874-1928), who arrived in New York between 1899 and 1901.  He was living in Kuznica (near Grodno) with his wife Reisel and infant son Ben, who was born in August, 1899. 

Reisel and Ben came over together and were sponsored by Louis, I found their manifest, which was indexed in the Ellis Island database with the surname PINKEL, probably a misreading of the cursive.  Their town was oddly rendered on the manifest as Kozrtsete. 

The unresolved issue is I haven't been able to find the earlier manifest for Louis.  His birth name was Leib DUBROVSKY, which according to our family history was changed to FINKEL before he arrived, rather than after.  Can anybody help me turn up his manifest?

David Ellis

Request for translation from Polish #translation

Shimy Karni


I found in JewishGen a short description of my grandfather's brother, Leib Horn.
Unfortunately it is written in Polish and I do not understand it.
Attached please find the text, and I will be very happy and thankful
to whom who will translate it for me
to english or hebrew.

thanks in advanced,
Shimi Karni

Next week (June 28): Preserve the memory of your LGBTQ+ relatives through genealogy #events

Moriah Amit

Family History Today: Researching your Historical LGBTQ+ Relatives
Presented by the Center for Jewish History in honor of Pride Month 2021
Monday, June 28, 2 PM Eastern Time 

You may have heard family rumors about the “bachelor uncle” or the aunt and her “roommate.” Perhaps, you identify as LGBTQ+ and want to know if there were others like you in your family tree. Professional genealogist Janice Sellers will show you how to pursue this avenue of family history research. In addition, she will discuss ethical concerns you should consider, and why an understanding of gay history is critical to finding and understanding information about your LGBTQ+ forebears.

Tickets: Pay what you wish; register here to receive a link to the Zoom program.

This program is sponsored by the Ackman & Ziff Family Genealogy Institute at the Center for Jewish History. It is funded, in part, by a Humanities New York CARES Grant, with support from the National Endowment for the Humanities and the federal CARES Act, and by public funds from the New York City Department of Cultural Affairs in partnership with the City Council.

Moriah Amit
Senior Genealogy Librarian, Center for Jewish History
New York, NY

Announcing Book Talk "Those Who Remained" Aug 11, 2 pm EDT #holocaust #yizkorbooks

Joel Alpert

Those Who Remained, a Novel of Post War Hungary with Zsuzsa F.
Varkonyi and Barnabás Toth
Wednesday, August 11, 2021 2:00 pm Eastern Time (NY)

Please join us for a conversation with author Zsuzsa F. Varkonyi and
filmmaker Barnabas Toth as they discuss, Those Who Remained. We are
announcing this program early so that you can order and read the book
prior to the presentation.

Jews who remained in Eastern Europe after the Holocaust and World War
II bore successive and unimaginable scourges—loss of family and
community, followed by communist repression. In the novel Those Who
Remained, Budapest psychotherapist Zsuzsa Varkonyi captures the grief,
hope, and endurance of this generation through two survivors who meet
in 1948. The novel has sold over 14,000 copies in the original
Hungarian and has also sold well in a German translation. The English
translation is now available (See Below).

The film based on this novel, Akik Maradtak (Those Who Remained), won
huge accolades at the 2019 Telluride Film Festival, and was
shortlisted for the 2019 Oscars. The film was shown extensively at
Jewish Film Festivals this past year. Though the film is not yet
available in movie theaters or streaming in the US, we love the book
and we think you will, too.

Order the Book:
To get the most from this presentation, we strongly recommend that you
first read the book. You can order the English translation from the
JewishGen Press for about $20 or less from Amazon
Please allow two weeks for delivery.

Registration is free with a suggested donation. To register go to:
After registering, you will receive a confirmation email about how to
join the webinar.

Questions? Please send an email to YBIP@...

Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor Books in Print Project

19th Century Hungarian Matching Making #hungary

Vivian Kahn

Looking for resources that describe matchmaking practices among non-Chassidic families during the mid-19th century. In particular, wondering how matches were made between families living at a considerable distance from one another. Examples include my paternatl great-grandfather Miksa NEUMANN (born avt 1842) from the Szobranczi district of Ung and his bride Ottilie POLACSEK (born 1844) from Hunfalva (Hunsdorf) in Szepes megye. She came from two prominent families (her mother was a SPITZ) that had immigrated from Moravia in the mid-18th century and was the oldest daughter. Miksa was the only surviving son. His father Viktor died in 1845 and by the time they married in June 1863 he may have already owned a shop in Szobrancz.

Another puzzling long-distance shidduch was between a young lady from Szinever, Maramaros, and a gentleman from Homonna, Zemplen. My maternal grandparents, who married in the late 19th century, were from the eastern part of Szatmar megye and Maramarossziget. That one seems more plausible because her BERKOVICS family in Avasujaros may well have heard of his KAHAN dynasty from Sziget but it was still an ardous journey over the Carpathian between their places of birth.

Vivian Kahn, Santa Rosa, California
Researching families including:
BERKOVICS/BERKOWITZ/ROTH/GROSZ. Avas Ujvaros, Hungary/Orasu Nou, Romania
KAHAN/JOSIPOVITS/DUB, Sziget, Kabolacsarda, Nagyvarad, Hungary/Sighet, Ciarda, Oradea, Romania
KOHN/Zbegnyo/ Zbehnov, Tarnoka/Trnavka, Slovakia; Cleveland  LEFKOVITS/Kolbasa/Brezina, Slovakia
MOSKOVITS/Honkocz, Szobranc, Osztro, Kassa, Hungary/Chonkovce, Sobrance, Ostrov, Kosice, Slov., Nyiregyhaza, Hungary
ELOVITS/Hornya, Hungary/Horna, Slovakia
NEUMANN/Szeretva, Kereszt, Nagymihaly, Miskolc, Hung./Sobrance, Kristy, Stretavka, Michalovce, Slov. 
POLACSEK/Hunfalu, Hungary/Huncovce, Slovakia
SPITZ/Nikolsburg/Mikulov, Prosnitz/Prostejov, Moravia/Czech Republic; Kismarton/Eisenstadt, Hungary/Austria; Hunfalu,Hungary//Huncovce, Slovakia

I´m looking for a genealogist expert in Sephardic lineage #sephardic

Julio César Herrera González

My name is Julio C. Herrera. I was recently approved for Spanish nationality due to Sephardic-Jewish ancestry (I am a Venezuelan residing in Ecuador). I did all the processing myself so I'm pretty familiar with the procedure. Obviously, I know that the Spanish route to obtaining the European Union passport has already been closed, but the Portuguese route is still open. The fact is that I am evaluating the possibility of offering my advisory services to those interested in Portuguese nationality of Sephardic lineage. Although I'm not a lawyer (I'm an economist), for this I have the experience of my Spanish processing and some relatives. In addition to having worked in the Venezuelan diplomatic service for 17 years (so I know the subject of nationalities very well), I am fluent in Portuguese and am well informed about Portuguese procedure. That said, PLEASE, could someone please tell me if knows of any recognized genealogist I can work with? In this regard, remember that most reports would be from Venezuelans, Ecuadorians and other Latin American countries. The aim is to investigate and locate the applicants' Sephardic ancestors so that they can later obtain the Sephardic certificate in the Israeli Community of Lisbon and finally the Portuguese nationality.
Best regards,
Julio C. Herrera

Offering Montefiore Cemetery photos (Queens, NY) #usa #photographs

A. E. Jordan

I am going to repeat the offer to take photos at "Old" Montefiore Cemetery in Queens, NY. I was there two weeks ago and I need to go back to help a few more people looking for some not found graves on the first pass through the cemetery.

Below I am repeating he process .... some of the areas of the cemetery were fairly overgrown right now as a warning. Possibly in all the times I have done this I found two graves where the bush was so large for the time time I could not get any type of photo. Usually you can get behind it or pull it back or such but those two were impossible.

I am willing to try but warning that a few sections of the cemetery are very difficult.

Process I follow is fairly simple in offering to take photos for people.
You ID the grave from the cemetery's online database and send me the details. I take a photo and email it to you and in turn I appreciate a few dollars to help defer the expense of doing this for everyone, ie gasoline money.
I am happy to help out where I can, but please don't send me a generic name and ask me to find the person at the cemetery and please don't send me around the cemetery to find the 20 people named Jack Cohen because one of them might possibly be your long lost cousin. The cemetery is massive and a few people have asked me to do that and it is a very slow process that takes a lot of time and gasoline, etc.

Also if you are asking for an infant or child's grave please tell me. They are mostly in separate areas of the plots and a lot of those graves do not have markers.
Montefiore has am online database. It is better if you search the name on the Montefiore database versus the commercial Find a Grave because the position information and data is better at the cemetery's page.
Feel free to ask me questions via email and ask about other NYC area cemeteries because I will visit most of them as the summer progresses. There's a few I do not go to because of distance or safety issues.
Please respect the discussion group and send your specific requests to me privately by replying to this email or my email address aejordan at aol dot com.
Allan Jordan
New York


Re: Holocaust Survivors and Victims #holocaust

Shelley Mitchell

Regarding Shanghai, there are a couple of Facebook groups on this subject. One is “Shanghai Internees and Refugees.”

Shelley Mitchell, NYC

Ilza (Drildz) metric books extraction notice #poland


I am delighted to announce that JRI-Poland has completed full extraction of all surviving Jewish records registered in the Sandomierz town of Ilza from 1810-1825 and 1850-1909. The Jewish books include registrations from nearby towns of Wierzbnik, Wonchok and several other satellite villages and towns.
To undertake genealogy research is to constantly second-guess the clerks, who, aside from occasionally mis-entering or omitting vital data, were often creative in name spelling. In analyzing the clans that registered in Ilza we have created value-added fields of deduced surnames and maiden names as well as standardized name fields. These serve to optimize search results and facilitate ease of analysis.
Not surprisingly, 20% of the clans registering in Ilza accounted for 80% of the registrations.
Please contact me for the list of standardized surnames and to find out how you can support this project.
Judy Golan
JRI-Poland Sandomierz Area Coordinator

Re: Where can I find information about Kivriz (in Volhynia) #ukraine #poland

Laurence Broun

It may be 



Volyn Oblast



It is near Lutsk (and a two-days walk from my grandparents' shtetl.)

Larry (Itzik Leib) Broun
Washington, DC | USA
e-mail: Laurencebroun@...

Re: Best Way to Retrieve a Birth Certificate from Vynohradiv, Ukraine #ukraine #subcarpathia #records

Ludwig Mauskopf

You can try this web site:

Select the Record Search tab and scroll down to Record Search Form.
Ludwig Mauskopf
(905) 770-9792

Re: Rubbing and take pictures at Washington Cemetery in Brooklyn, NY #photographs

Sarah L Meyer

The Find A Grave Facebook group has suggestions relative to the best way  to photograph a stone like yours.  It involves going out early or late and taking a friend and a large mirror to shine the light on the stone from an oblique angle.  Apparently there are some  Youtube videos about how to do this. Good luck
Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania

Re: The Portuguese community in Altona Hamburg Germany in 1650 #germany #sephardic


I followed the link you gave. From there a few things appear :
Death year is 1654.
Family name is Goldzieher, sounds quite Ashkenazi. 
Quoted reference is from the book"Verborgene Pracht: Der jüdische Friedhof Hamburg-Altona – Aschkenasische Grabmale, Dresden: 2009, S. 171"
Here again we are dealing with an Ashkenazi person.

I hope this will help you locate more info on that person. 

Best regards, 
Laurent Kassel 
Moreshet, Israel 

Re: Where oncan I find information about Kivriz (in Volhynia) #ukraine #poland

Alexander Sharon


Town name is Kivertsi (Ukrainian), during the interwar period it was known in Polish as Kiwerce.
Town was located within the community Poddębce in Luck (Łuck) administration region. Poland 1929 Directory shows the total number of town residents as 500, including 175 Jewish people.

P2167.pdf (

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB

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