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Re: How to write Jewish name in Hebrew lettering #names

Stephen Katz
 

I have received several replies to my query, both privately and via the group, and they've been unanimous in their spelling of the name in Hebrew! I've responded to all replies that I've seen so far. My deepest thanks to everyone who replied; you've all provided me with the information I needed, for which I'm grateful.
Stephen Katz


Re: CRI Genetics?

JoAnne Goldberg
 

Apparently their "50+ generations" claim is based on providing  your Y-DNA and mtDNA haplogroups -- information that is included with 23andMe tests, or you can drill down deeper with specific FamilyTreeDNA tests. Looks like a lot of their customers complain about being scammed.

Here is a great resource for test comparison: https://isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_DNA_testing_comparison_chart

JoAnne

On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 03:21 PM, <amitch1066@...> wrote:
Hi Everyone,

Is anyone familiar with this DNA testing company?  https://www.crigenetics.com/

They claim they can test back 50+ generations with "biogeographical ancestry".  Also, are they reputable and how do they stack up against other testing companies?

Thanks!
--
Amy Mitchell

 Hi Amy,

Not a recommended company, so I would spend my money elsewhere. People regularly get odd results and there's no matching.

Take care,
Adina Newman



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JoAnne Goldberg - Menlo Park, California; GEDmatch M131535
BLOCH, SEGAL, FRIDMAN, KAMINSKY, PLOTNIK/KIN -- LIthuania
GOLDSCHMIDT, HAMMERSCHLAG,HEILBRUNN, REIS(S), EDELMUTH, ROTHSCHILD, SPEI(Y)ER -- Hesse, Germany
COHEN, KAMP, HARFF, FLECK, FRÖHLICH, HAUSMANN,  DANIEL  -- Rhineland, Germany

 


Re: CRI Genetics?

Susan
 

Yes, I have used CRI Genetics, but they are not a genealogy site. Here is my comparison of CRI Genetics with a typical genealogy site like MyHeritage:

Typical genealogy site with DNA testing: Does DNA testing with a primary goal of generating a list of potential genealogical leads, or potential relatives; may offer some sort of ethnicity reports; often allows you to download your raw DNA data to possibly upload at other sites; does not usually do haplogroup testing (mitochondrial or Y chromosome).

CRI Genetics: has a great scientific basis for its genetic analysis; does give deep ancestral background at various levels and breakdowns; does offer mitochondrial and Y haplogroup testing; does not allow a download of your DNA data but puts a high emphasis on privacy and security; does not have a genealogical orientation to helping clarify your historically recent family tree.

I have used both CRI Genetics and MyHeritage Genetics, but for different reasons. And I like them both. I do have a personal interest in genetics, archaeology, and evolution, including human evolution, and have taken multiple college courses in all these areas – so that is part of the basis of my interest in CRI Genetics. And I have had great difficulty figuring out my husband’s ancestry, so being able to upload his raw DNA data to GEDmatch. Com has been a great help.

I hope this is helpful.

Susan Stark


Re: CRI Genetics?

ccelaynarose3@...
 

For all those who may be interested in this company:

I found them to have wonderful customer service. However, there are both pros and cons as to what they can offer, at least pertaining to my personal experience. 

My first experience was to upload my autosomal DNA results from Ancestry. The results were prompts and, come to find out later in my research, more accurate than my initial Ancestry estimates. At least they were closer. I have attached screenshots of a map and the overview of my top ethnicity from the CRI Genetics results of my last 5 generations as an example.  As a matter of fact,  there was a clue that my DNA may suggest Jewish roots which have now been found in the family tree.

My next encounter with the company was an attempt to find my Maternal Haplogroup. When I read their write-up for the test, it sounded much like an mtDNA test, maybe not Full Sequence, but close and much less expensive. So, I purchased a test, took it and sent it back, only to wait and wait. After much email communication with the company (they are excellent about customer service and communication), I was told, they needed to repeat the test. Long story short the test couldn't be processed and I asked for my money to be returned and it was returned that day. I was disappointed but they were really good about it.

One other drawback is that any test that THEY do, cannot be downloaded. you can SEE your results but not download them. I didn't realize that but it is in their agreement that you need to sign. And you never see the raw data. This is one thing I wish that I had realized beforehand.

All in all, it works differently from other companies, but I found the results to be quite accurate. I just wish you could download them. Additionally, I bet if I asked them to send me a replacement mtDNA test that they would have done it. Lesson learned.

I hope this overview was helpful. Please let me know if anyone has any questions

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Connie Derosier Carter
Kissimmee, FL, Leominster, MA


Re: CRI Genetics?

adina@...
 

On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 03:21 PM, <amitch1066@...> wrote:
Hi Everyone,

Is anyone familiar with this DNA testing company?  https://www.crigenetics.com/

They claim they can test back 50+ generations with "biogeographical ancestry".  Also, are they reputable and how do they stack up against other testing companies?

Thanks!
--
Amy Mitchell

 Hi Amy,

Not a recommended company, so I would spend my money elsewhere. People regularly get odd results and there's no matching.

Take care,
Adina Newman


This week's featured collections in Miriam Weiner's new Surname Database at the Routes to Roots Foundation website (www.rtrfoundation.org) include documents from the towns of: Stanislawow & Stanislawow District (now Ivano-Frankivsk, Ukraine) and Lublin, Poland. #announcements #poland #ukraine

Miriam Weiner
 

The Routes to Roots Foundation is offering Weekly Featured Collections from the new Surname Databases on its website at www.rtrfoundation.org.

 

This week, we are highlighting the following: 

 

 

1.     Stanislawow & Stanislawow District (now Ivano-Frankivsk, Ukraine)

·         1941-1944 Death Records

 

 

2.     Lublin, Poland

·         List of Jews Deported from Lublin to Belzyce, March 10, 1941

 

 

Also check the Image Database for:

             20 images of Stanislawow (now Ivano-Frankivsk, Ukraine

             24 of images Lublin, Poland

 

Also check the Map Database for:

              3 maps for Ivano-Frankovsk, Ukraine

 

 

Miriam Weiner

Secaucus, NJ


Re: Need Help With DNA Puzzle #dna

Jeffrey Herrmann
 

Adam, I think your argument is flawed.  Once the last Neanderthal died about 1,600 generations ago, no new Neanderthal DNA could enter the homo sapiens population, but by random reassortment, bits of it would be deleted each generation.  Sometimes, both a mother and a father would pass none of their Neanderthal DNA to their children, and then that bit is gone.  Unless, that is, there was some strong survival advantage for the lucky children who got it.  And there is no reason to believe that when the last Neanderthal went extinct the number of homo sapiens/Neanderthal hybrids was large compared to the number of pure homo sapiens.   Neanderthal DNA remaining in the human population should get diluted with each successive generation.  Why it survives at about 1 and 1/2 percent is still a mystery.  Many clades of archaic homo sapiens DNA went extinct and can not be found in living homo sapiens.

If (hypothetically) the last “archaic Ashkenazi Jew” went extinct 1,600 generations ago, you would not expect any archaic Ashkenazi DNA to be found in the remaining population of homo sapiens, because they would not have been a large fraction of the total human population at that time and their DNA would be diluted over subsequent time.    That is, unless archaic Ashkenazi DNA conferred a strong survival advantage.
So, are the DNA anomalies that started this thread explainable only by endogamy or something else?
Jeffrey Herrmann
New Rochelle, NY


Re: How to write Jewish name in Hebrew lettering #names

Miron Chumash
 

Yoyel = יואל
 Miron Chumash


Czech Translation #translation

Carol Jean Weightman
 

I have posted a letter on Viewmate in the Czech language for which I would appreciate a translation.

The letter is on VM 94285 (page 1) and VM 94286 (page 2).

The letter is type-written and is not very long.

I understand it has to do with the extension of a certificate for a home in Skrečon which was given to the writer in 1930.

The letter was written in 1947. I wonder if it gives family details.

Thank you for any help.

Best wishes
Carol Jean Weightman


Re: How to write Jewish name in Hebrew lettering #names

eran.gindes@...
 

Hi, Most probably the correct way to spell the name in Hebrew would be יואל , which is equivalent to the name Joel in English. 

My condoleces 
Eran Gindes


Re: Searching for a 'Missing Person Ad' from 1949 Newspaper in Israel #israel

eran.gindes@...
 

Hi, You should check out the Natonal Library of Israel. Enclosed please find the link.

https://www.nli.org.il/he/discover/newspapers/jpress

Good luck
Eran Gindes


ViewMate translation request - Polish #translation

Colin Cohn
 

Please provide a translation from Polish of the 1921 Czempin marriage
record of my relative Selma JUDA to Jozef KALLMANNSOHN.

The record is on ViewMate:
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM94274

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you,
Colin Cohn
Sydney, Australia
Researching Czempin: COHN, JUDA, NEUMANN, SCHLAMM


Re: Registration with the SS in Netherlands #holocaust #records

r.peeters
 

On the same subject: what I mentioned in my previous message had to do with persons that had links with the SS. However, at that time the required registrations were recorded at the local townhalls and many of them can  be found in the genealogical archives of the municipality. Otherwise, try 'Joods Monument'(Jewish Monument).
Bye,
Ron Peeters(NL)


Re: Looking for Mischeleivch family #lithuania

Matthew Klionsky
 

Could name be same as Mischelovin? There's an extended family of that name; my daughter knows some in St. Paul, MN.
Matthew Klionsky


Re: Need Help With DNA Puzzle #dna

walters.cathy
 

You are correct Jocelyn, I'm one of them, I floundered for a year, lot of the surnames were similar, but the tale was told when I tested my sibling.  It took another year for my paternal sibling to fall in my AncestryDNA.  Ancestry allows you to add another father, but anyone in MyHeritageDNA will see a tree that only represents only half of me & only will confuse my Jewish cousins.  

Cathy Walters, Elgin, MN

GINSBERG/GINSBURG, UPNICK/UPNIK/LIPNIK Vilna & Kovno, Lithuania
PLATSKY, LASOVSKY-COHEN, Vilna, Lithuania
GEDmatch A059333, AncestryDNA & myheritageDNA


New Tool for Jewish Genealogy - An Invitation to Preview and Comment! #jgs-iajgs #general

Marlis Humphrey
 

Looking for a brick wall breakthrough? Wondering what records you should search for?

 

The IAJGS invites you and the entire genealogical community familiar with researching Jewish ancestry to preview the draft DoJR Record Type Taxonomy for Jewish Genealogy and provide comments from Monday 5 July through Sunday 18 July at https://dojrww.org/taxonomy

--
Marlis Humphrey
International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS) | Immediate Past President IAJGS
Documentation of Jewish Records Worldwide (DoJR) | Chairman Executive Committee
marlis@...
marlis@...


Re: Need Help With DNA Puzzle #dna

Adam Turner
 

Once you feel you have figured out these DNA puzzles, here’s another: those of us with European ancestry have about one and a half percent Neanderthal DNA, which is about as much DNA, on average, as you would get from one fourth great grandparent, six generations back. But the Neanderthals died out around 40,000 years, or roughly 160,000 generations, ago. How do you explain this?

This one is just the result of confusing one's DNA admixture at the population level with how DNA is shared from one's immediate ancestors.

If you have European ancestry, all of your immediate ancestors' genomes have about 1.5% of their SNPs that can be traced back to Neanderthal populations. That 1.5% doesn't necessarily diminish from generation to generation - those SNPs keep getting passed down again and again as long as people keep mating within the same population, just like the total proportion of markers (SNPs) in your genome that are identifiably "Ashkenazi Jewish" didn't diminish as long as your Ashkenazi Jewish ancestors kept having children with other Ashkenazi Jews. 

(Think of it this way: if someone who is 25% Ashkenazi Jewish marries someone else who is 25% Ashkenazi Jewish, their childrens' genomes, on average, will still show a 25% Ashkenazi admixture. The same principle applies in this case, even though the population we're talking about - "Europeans" - is much much larger and much much older than the population we call "Ashkenazi": both of your parents had genomes with ~1.5% identifiably Neanderthal SNPs, so you do, too. All 4 of your grandparents had 1.5% Neanderthal SNPs, so both your parents did, too. And so on and so on for thousands of years back, for as long as people kept on mating within that same, relatively homogeneous population of Europeans.)

Adam Turner



SCJGS invites you to.“The Changing Borders of Eastern Europe” with Hal Bookbinder July 18th #announcements #events

Leah Kushner
 

 Santa Cruz Jewish Genealogy Society  invites you to our next Zoom program on SundayJuly 18, 2021, 2 pm Pacific Zone Time 
The Changing Borders of Eastern Europe” with Hal Bookbinder .

 

Program:  As Russia expanded west, it absorbed millions of Jews. This talk examines Russiaʼs efforts to limit the Jews in its territories and the associated border changes impacting our ancestors. With them, town names, record-keeping and archive locations might change. This overview may help researchers in determining where records might be located, their format and languages. The JewishGen Town Finder and the Encyclopedia Judaica are two excellent resources for determining in what country your town was located at specific times

 

SpeakerHal writes and lectures extensively on diverse genealogical topics, including border changes, migration, citizenship, safe computing, Jewish culture and Jewish history. He has identified over 4,000 relatives reaching back to the mid-1700s in modern Ukraine. Other roots reach into adjacent areas of Moldova, Poland, Belarus and Russia. He has served as president of the IAJGS and has been honored with its Lifetime Achievement Award. 

 

RSVP:  -Register Here to receive a Zoom link. This event is free for SCJGS members, $5 for non-members. 

 

To become a member of Santa Cruz Jewish Genealogy Society, go to membership.scjgs@...  for more information.

 

 

 

Contact: Leah Kushner

 President, SCJGS
Santa Cruz, California

SCJGSociety@...


Re: Need Help With DNA Puzzle #dna

Jeffrey Herrmann
 

Apologies to all for my Neanderthal level of arithmetic skills.  The Neanderthals died out about 1,600 generations ago, not 160,000.  Still, as 1,598th great grandparents, they should not have left us any detectable DNA, unless some of their DNA was essential to survival.  Does that mean that in historical times, some of our ancestors also had bits of DNA that survived many generations because those bits gave a survival advantage?
Jeffrey Herrmann
New Rochelle, NY


Unusual Kielce-related indexing opportunity. Polish-speaking volunteers needed. #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

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Dear friends:
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Long before I joined the DoJR (Documentation of Jewish Records Worldwide project) team
JRI-Poland had been able to announce the discovery of unusual or hidden in plain sight record 
collections with potential benefit for many researchers.
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The "Attachments to the death certificates of the Kielce Synagogue District" collection is
one that certainly ranks high in tagging it with word "unusual."  We have scans of 12,300 cards 
documenting the 1905 to 1935 deaths in Kielce. There are two or more cards related to each death.
The combination of the pre-printed and handwritten cards with additional information include a
treasure of genealogical detail over and above date of death....date and place of birth, parents' 
names, current (street) address and town of permanent residence.  Marriage information for the
deceased or parents of the deceased is also included in most cards. See samples below.
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We need dedicated Polish-speaking volunteers who are able to decipher the aforementioned vital 
details to help JRI-Poland extract the information so that the details can be shared with Kielce 
and area researchers.  "Area" is an important word here as the KIelce Synagogue Area takes in
many towns and villages in the vicinity and the cards will reveal details about individuals that 
might not otherwise be available.  Two typical sets of cards follow below.
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To inquire about joining this project team, write to KielceDeathAttachments@...
  
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Stanley Diamond, M.S.M.   (Montreal, 514-484-0100)
Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.
 
 
 

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