Following on Logan Kleinwaks' identification of census books for
cities and surrounding towns in 1764-5 Poland, I took a close look at
the listings >from Jaroslaw and Sienawa to see if they were worth
indexing. I've concluded that the lack of surnames would render an
index useless for most people. The writing is pretty clear. The material
is, of course, in Polish since 1764 was before the first partition in 1772.
Jaroslaw and the villages in the district had 1,884 Jewish residents.
The town residents were listed first. The households were numbered
and the head of household was listed first, usually with an occupation
and sometimes with the patronymic.

The wife (zona) was listed just below and then the sons (syn) and
daughters (corka). Below were the other relatives and then the
servants. The servants were identified by name and type (cook was
the most common). After the town dwellers came the villages in the
district where Jews lived. These closely match the villages and towns
in the Jaroslaw district in 1875.

Following Jaroslaw is Sienawa but with the same results.

Suzan Wynne

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On Dec. 3, 2019, Logan Kleinwaks <logan.kleinwaks@gmail.com>
wrote in part:

I have just posted at
https://archive.org/details/agad_fond350_sygnatura168
photographs of a book of 1764-1766 Jewish censuses for the
following towns (and some nearby villages), which I wrote about here
in 2018:

Kingdom of Poland: Baranow (Lublin), Konskowola (Lublin) and
Wlostowice, Miedzyrzec Podlaski (Siedlce), Staszow (Radom)

Galicia: Berezhany / Brzezany, Jaroslaw, Kalush / Kalusz, Narayev /
Narajow, Peremyshlyany / Przemyslany, Sieniawa, Skole, Tarnoruda

Podolia: Hraniv / Granow, Letychiv / Latyczow, Medzhybizh /
Miedzyboz, Nikolayev / Mikolajow, Sataniv / Satanow (statistics only),
Stara Sinyava / Stara Sieniawa

Volhynia: Klevan / Klewan ....

Following on Logan Kleinwaks' identification of census books for
cities and surrounding towns in 1764-5 Poland, I took a close look at
the listings >from Jaroslaw and Sienawa to see if they were worth
indexing. I've concluded that the lack of surnames would render an
index useless for most people. The writing is pretty clear. The material
is, of course, in Polish since 1764 was before the first partition in 1772.
Jaroslaw and the villages in the district had 1,884 Jewish residents.
The town residents were listed first. The households were numbered
and the head of household was listed first, usually with an occupation
and sometimes with the patronymic.

The wife (zona) was listed just below and then the sons (syn) and
daughters (corka). Below were the other relatives and then the
servants. The servants were identified by name and type (cook was
the most common). After the town dwellers came the villages in the
district where Jews lived. These closely match the villages and towns
in the Jaroslaw district in 1875.

Following Jaroslaw is Sienawa but with the same results.

Suzan Wynne

---

On Dec. 3, 2019, Logan Kleinwaks <logan.kleinwaks@gmail.com>
wrote in part:

I have just posted at
https://archive.org/details/agad_fond350_sygnatura168
photographs of a book of 1764-1766 Jewish censuses for the
following towns (and some nearby villages), which I wrote about here
in 2018:

Kingdom of Poland: Baranow (Lublin), Konskowola (Lublin) and
Wlostowice, Miedzyrzec Podlaski (Siedlce), Staszow (Radom)

Galicia: Berezhany / Brzezany, Jaroslaw, Kalush / Kalusz, Narayev /
Narajow, Peremyshlyany / Przemyslany, Sieniawa, Skole, Tarnoruda

Podolia: Hraniv / Granow, Letychiv / Latyczow, Medzhybizh /
Miedzyboz, Nikolayev / Mikolajow, Sataniv / Satanow (statistics only),
Stara Sinyava / Stara Sieniawa

Volhynia: Klevan / Klewan ....

Attached please find information on the Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington's December 2019 meeting and program.

 

 

 

We would be delighted if you would share this information with your network.

 

Thank you in advance for your assistance.

 

Nancy C. Kotz

Vice President for Communications, Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington

Website: https://jgsgw.org/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jgsgw/

Have you looked at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landsmanshaft and especially Schwartz, Rosaline and Susan Milamed, From Alexandrovsk to Zyrardow: A Guide to YIVO's Landsmanshaftn Archive, New York: YIVO Institute for Jewish Research, 1986?  Many libraries have copies.  Ask your local reference librarian if that library does not have a copy to direct you to the nearest library which that does or purchase a copy and donate it to a library near you.  I agree with the others who have said that this reference is to a Bialystok-centered entity for Jews.

Edward David Luft

--
Barbara Ellman
Secaucus NJ USA
HASSMAN, SONENTHAL, DAUERMAN, LUCHS - Drohobycz, Ukraine
HIRSCHHORN, GOLDSTEIN, BUCHWALD - Dolyna, Ukraine
ELLMAN, COIRA, MAIDMAN - Minkovtsy, Ukraine
KAGLE, FASS - Ulanow, Poland

Thanks to all who have replied.

Pretty sure my uncle and his wife have been found with their surname misspelled in the New Montefiore database.

Judith

--
Diane Jacobs

Agree! Very cumbersome. Seems that the digests come more than once a day on occasion. Must be a better, more user friendly way.

In general, I suggest storing all original documents in acid-free packages, perhaps in individual sleeves in an acid-free box.  Of course, the paper of the document may not be acid-free, but this will still help to preserve them.  They should also be kept out of sunlight and strong artificial light.  Beyond this, I suggest the references mentioned by others.

Hi Stephen,

One suggestion for standard-size sheets of paper is to insert them into acid-free sheet protectors; for photographs you can find acid-free photo pages that accommodate various sizes of photographs. 

These are all 3-holed punch and you could keep them in binders or in standard size file folders.

Stores that carry office supplies or on-line office supplies are good sources for purchase.

Hope this helps.

Madeleine Isenberg
Beverly Hills, CA

I’m not normally wont to post long items, but in this case, I’m not sure how to state my problem otherwise.

 

I am having trouble documenting the life and death of the men in our Goldstein family, though I have been working at this for quite some time. Specifically, I cannot find post-1900 census or death records for either of my wife’s Bubbe Mamie Goldstein Fine’s  two brothers, Hyman and Jacob Goldstein, and I cannot find her father Max from after the 1900 census except when he died in 1928.

 

According to the 1900 census, the father, Max (Avraham Mordechai ben Chaim Zusman), immigrated in 1884, leaving his wife and 4 children (2 girls and 2 boys), then he must have returned to Poland/Russia (Bialystok), where he had another daughter before immigrating with them all to New York in 1887. He and his wife Rachel had two more daughters in the US in the early 1890s. I can find none of the Goldsteins in any NY immigration records. I am assuming that had they come to another port, they would have stayed in that city, or that their name was not originally Goldstein. This is not a major concern, however, neither that I can’t find birth records for the two daughters born in the US.

 

All these Goldsteins are listed in the same household on the Lower East Side in the 1900 Census, except oldest daughter Bessie. The family is listed as: Max (49), Rachel (49), Hyman (24), Annie (20), Jacob (16), Laura [listed as “Dora”]  (13), Mamie (9), and Sarah (8). Bessie is already married and listed separately. Hyman is listed as a plumber, Jacob a day laborer.

 

I can follow all 5 daughters with their husbands and children over time, with a couple of missing years, through the US and NY State Censuses. Bessie Goldstein Greenberg – 1900, 1905, 1910, 1915, 1920; 1925 not found (widowed after 1905) . Annie Goldstein Israel – 1910, 1915, 1920; 1925 not found. Laura Goldstein Rosenberg – 1910, 1915, 1920, 1925. Mamie Goldstein Fine – 1915, 1920, 1925. Sarah Goldstein Saperstein – 1915, 1920, 1925. In none of these censuses that I found are any of the men living with them.

 

Most of the initial family information was obtained by interviewing my mother-in-law, who died in 2005. She was pretty meticulous on this kind of stuff; she knew all about her aunts, uncles, and first cousins. I don’t recall that she ever told me that either Hyman or Jacob had married or had children.

 

I cannot find Max or Rachel in any US or NY state census after 1900. Rachel died in 1919, while living at 61 Cannon Street on the Lower East Side. Her son Hyman is in the 1917 WWI Draft records, living at 61 Cannon Street and listing his mother Rachel as his closest relative. In 1917 he is still a plumber. I infer from this that Hyman had not married by age 40, and clearly was still alive. I cannot find Jacob Goldstein’s WWI record at all.  I looked at 61 Cannon Street in the 1920 Census, neither Hyman nor Max are still living there. Max died in 1928, his address on his death certificate is the same as daughter Mamie’s 1925 address (the house she lived in for decades after), but he is not living with any of his daughters in either 1920 or 1925.

 

Max and Rachel are buried together in Mount Zion Cemetery in Queens. Neither Jacob nor Hyman are buried in the same society plot as their parents, nor as their sister Annie who is also buried in Mount Zion, in 1945. Obviously, there are lots of Hyman Goldsteins and Jacob Goldsteins in Mount Zion and elsewhere in the NYC area, but the cemetery sites do not give age information in order to winnow the list of candidates. They are not buried with Mamie or Sarah in other cemeteries, and I have not yet located Bessie’s or Laura’s graves, but doubtful the brothers are buried with them.

 

None of the deaths listed in italiangen.org for Hyman Goldstein are the right one, as investigated on familysearch.org, either because Hyman wasn’t born in either Russia or Poland, or the age is too far off, or the parents are incorrect. Italiangen goes up to 1937.

 

I cannot find any Hyman or Jacob Goldsteins in the 1930 or 1940 census that look enough like ours to be sure. I also cannot narrow down the potential naturalization candidates, though Hyman’s WWI record says he is naturalized.

 

So to summarize, no census records for any of the men after 1900; no naturalization, marriage or death records for either son; no draft record for Jacob. The problem with following leads to try to find these records is that the names are SOOOO common that the disambiguation on Max Goldsteins, Hyman Goldsteins and Jacob Goldsteins, such as naturalization and burial records, is more effort than I am willing to invest. Am I missing some easier tool or record set to help track down what happened to Hyman and Jacob?

 

TIA

Steve Stein
Highland Park, NJ

It is a long time since I have posted a messsage. My husband’s family came from Vyshnivchyk/Wisniowcyk, Podhajce district, Tarnopol Woj. According to Rabbi Israel SHOR, a distant cousin of a cousin, there were about 200 Jews with three shuls in the village.

In 1901 seven men formed the Erste Wisniowczyker Kranken Interstuetzungs Verein and incorporated it in NYC. The men were Isak BELLNER, Sigmund DUNAJER, Nathan BUCHWALDER, Hersch HAMMER, Aaron Leib SCHECHTER, Moses HAKEN, Pinchus KESSLER. The society’s first HACKEN burial was in Mt. Hebron in 1919.

I am always glad to exchange information and answer questions about my research or an old hand-written HACKEN-SUHL Tree. Listed below are some of the early names on the tree.

HACKEN, SUHL KORNWEITZ, LEIBLING, BUCHWALD, KALLMAN, AGDERN, WEIL, OXHORN/OCHSHORN, MARDER, WARM, BRECHAR, HALPERN, SOKOL, BIEGHOLDT, SHER, MENDELL, LINEAL, KERNER, SULKES, DUNAIER, VOGELMAN, BLATT, ZAMPIN.

Georgia Haken JFF# 3847
Danbury, Connecticut, USA
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Researching: ROSENBLATT--Wehrda, Germany, Ohio, Connecticut and Georgia (state) ; HEPPENHEIMER--Eichtersheim, Baden; HACKEN/HAKEN/HACKENA, SUHL, BUCHWALD, KORNWEITZ--Galicia; PROBE/PROBER, GOLD, HERMAN--Galicia; 

Is it possible to add a location to the Steve Morse search facility
at https://stevemorse.org/jewishroof/jewishroof.html ?

I am after KAHN in Heilbronn and other common names like STRAUSS and
KATZENSTEIN

David Lewin
London

Is it possible to add a location to the Steve Morse search facility
at https://stevemorse.org/jewishroof/jewishroof.html ?

I am after KAHN in Heilbronn and other common names like STRAUSS and
KATZENSTEIN

David Lewin
London

Stephen,

Your questions are too broad. There must be dozens, if not hundreds, of articles on the web on the subject of archival preservation. I would read five-ten and select an approach most suitable for you.

Boris Feldblyum
www.bfcollection.net

hi, stolpersteine will ask you first ,if you have a permission! >from the
local city where you want to do that!

i do that right now in lodz.

best wishes
jan braunholz-frankfurt/m

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Subject: Stolperstein in Poland
From: Simon Srebrny <srebrny@icloud.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 23:09:59 +0100
X-Message-Number: 1

Margaret Levin asked about how to request Stolpersteine in Poland.

The first step is to contact the artist's team, not any Polish
authority:

http://www.stolpersteine.eu/en/steps/

Here are the contacts:

http://www.stolpersteine.eu/en/news/#c627

I know firsthand that the person you, Ms Levin, need to write
to is a wonderful and helpful human being.

Regards,

Simon Srebrny

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