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Use of English by European Photo Studios #general

Rusty Wilson
 

I have several early 20th century photos printed on card stock with the words "Cabinet Portrait" in English.  But it would make sense that some of these photos were taken in Europe.  Does anyone know if European photographers ever used English printing on their card stock? 
 
Any input appreciated.  
 
Rusty Wilson
Researching:
KRASNY
PLOTKIN
OBUKOWSKY
KARNOWSKY

 
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Rusty Wilson
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Request for information on Father after WW2 in Australia #general

ehrmann.paul@...
 

THIS IS A REVISED VERSION
Our Father Kurt Ehrmann was an enemy/friendly alien (Germany-England via KT-HMT Dunera-Australia) private the Australian Army and served in the Employment company in Australia (AEC) formally enlisting in Spring of 42
He came to the US in the Spring of 46 after his discharge in 45 from the AEC.
 
According to documents, we believe he spent some time in two places during the year he was delayed in leaving Australia for the US on the SS Matson for his 3 week trip to SF

We know that 
1. He spent some time in Richmond (Church street)..believe in southernmost Australia??
and then we believe at some point he
2. traveled up north and stayed a second place and believe he embarked on the SS Matson for his 3 week journey to SF which we believe left from Melbourne or Sydney in spring of 46 (we have original ship manifest w his name on it)

I know it is a long shot, but would be appreciative if anyone has any knowledge during this time period Spring 45 and beyond any organization that might have been responsible for finding housing of men in Australia from the time from discharge to their final destination.
Thanks 
Paul Ehrmann
ehrmann.paul@...


Re: Godparents? #galicia

Stephan Owen Parnes
 

The first step in understanding a record that has been identified by reviewing an indexing project should be to review the original document.  In this case the original document may be found in the Grodek Jewish birth records available at FamilySearch.

In the box showing the child’s name in this document are the names of the sandek and (I believe) the midwife.  In a box with the heading “Parentes” the names of the child’s mother and father are listed. In a box with the heading “Patrini” are found the “godparents.”

Thus, the term “Godparents” does not refer to the sandek in this record.  It is not clear to me whether the couple named as Godparents  are relatives or not.  This couple would likely be important people in the town, if not relatives.

In any case, the woman named here (the “Godmother”—sometimes called “kwatterin”) would bring the baby from the mother and then hand the baby to the man named here (the “Godfather”—sometimes called “kwatter”).  The “Godfather” would the bring the infant in and place him on the Chair of Elijah or hand the infant to the mohel or to the child’s father.

Regarding Freude’s maiden name, looking the JRI-Poland’s indexes shows a Brzezany marriage record for Uscher Stahl and Freude Feintuch in 1879. Uscher Stahl’s father was Hersch Leib Stahl. Thus, the infant you mentioned would likely be named after Uscher’s father. Whether or not Freude’s mother might have been a Parnes is not clear without further research.

Stephan Parnes
Great Barrington, MA



On Jul 13, 2021, at 3:34 PM, Nikki Nafziger <nikkinashmusic@...> wrote:


I found my great grandfather's birth record in the all Galicia database. It listed Moses and Elkie Parnes as Godparents 1 and 2 (given names and surnames). I didn't think Jews had Godparents. … Please help me understand the translation/meaning of Godparents.  Thank you. (Nikki Drex by
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Searching for Descendants of Izrail Illich Ratner born 1830 and Bogdana Aronova from Mogilev and St Petersburg. #belarus #russia

Trish Lane
 

Izrail and Bogdana had 3 sons, Aron, Pavel born 1859, and Ilya born 1875. There were 6 daughters, Gena, Alexandra, Anna, Ekaterina,Rosa, Aksiniya and Cecilia. ages unknown.
I am connected to Pavel Izrailovic Ratner who married my Great Aunt Ita Julia. I also believe that my Great Grandmother, Julia's mother belonged to the Ratner family as Ratner was her maiden name. Was Pavel her nephew or cousin?
I would be very grateful to find the connection. I know that Pavel and Julia died in Paris where they lived since leaving St Petersburg in ? 1917.
Joel Ratner has edited this information on Genealogical Indexer. Could we be connected?
Kind Regards,
Patricia Lane
Sydney
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Re: reconciling difference between family lore and Arolsen Archive information #france #holocaust

itencorinne@...
 

Hi Aline

As far as I know Mittelbau-Dora was a subcamp of Buchenwald not of Auschwitz. There is a website about Buchenwald and Mittelbau-Dora.
https://www.buchenwald.de/en/69/
https://www.buchenwald.de/en/29/

At the end of the war many prisoners from Auschwitz were sent to other camps like Mauthausen, some with trains, but many on the so-called "death march".

The Arolsen Archives have some records of Mauthausen online, but there is also a website about Mauthausen camp.
https://www.mauthausen-memorial.org/en

The deceased of the Mauthausen Concentration Camp
https://raumdernamen.mauthausen-memorial.org/?L=1

Did you seearch with different spellings of the surname on the Arolsen Archives? Sometimes I found one and the same person with different spellings there.

Regards

Corinne Iten
Switzerland


Re: How To Find A Date Of Death In NYC Prior To 1935/SSDI? #records #usa

The Becker's Email
 

Check out reclaimtherecords.org as they battle both NY state and NY city for release of records.  See if they have records from this time period.

Johanna Becker
Newport, RI


Jewish-Uzbek Historical Archives Open to the Public #announcements #records

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

 

Uzbekistan is a central Asian nation and former part of the Soviet Republic. As reported by the Jerusalem Post, it is now officially researching and documenting its Jewish community. Jews have there since the region was crushed by the hooves Genghis Khan’s horses.  “This also includes hundreds of thousands of Jews who managed to escape the chains of Germany’s Panzer tanks.”


When the Nazis invaded the Soviet Union, Uzbekistan opened its doors to Jews and other fleeing the Germans.


As reported, “The Central State Archive of the Republic of Uzbekistan has been instructed to make information about the lives of Jews during World War II and before available to the public. The archive is also currently in the process of signing an agreement with the Central Archives for the History of the Jewish People in Jerusalem, and soon afterward also with Yad Vashem.”

 

Almost “every family in Uzbekistan was affected by World War II, as the country was still part of the Soviet Union at the time. More than 580,000 Uzbek nationals lost their lives, including tens of thousands of Jews. Some 100,000 Soviet factories in areas conquered by the Wehrmacht were relocated to Uzbekistan. These factories produced arms and ammunition, which were then shipped to the front. Most importantly, Uzbekistan became a sanctuary for refugees fleeing from Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Poland and Serbia.” It was the Uzbek tradition of hospitality that saved 1.5 million people, including over 200,000 Jews.

 

The Uzbekistan archives website is located at: https://archive.uz/

 

If you use Chrome as your browser it will provide English translation to some of the material. If not use a translation service such as google translate https://translate.google.com/

or DeepL  https://www.deepl.com/en/translator

 

More information on the Archives, not Jewish-specific may be seen at:

http://open-archives.org/en/countryresult/result/14/


To read more see:

https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/jewish-uzbek-historical-archives-open-up-to-the-public-673217

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 

 


Translation of Archive Letter in Ukraninian #ukraine #russia #translation

Harry Moatz
 

Following an inquiry to the State Archivs of Poltava Oblast about records it contains, I received the attached reply. I would appreciate a translation.  I believe it is in Ukraninian, but someone familiar with Russian also may be able to translate its contents.
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
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Harry Moatz
Potomac, MD, USA
hamoatzi@...

SCHWARTZ/SCHWARZ/SZWARZ - Monasterzyska and Stanislawow
TEITELBAUM - Yazloweic
KESSLER - Pruzhany
KLAUBER - Sambor
MEYER - Dembitz

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Re: Godparents? #galicia

David Harrison
 

The question of denomination is very important, as is a name of the country in a particular period.  I have heard, more than once that there are more than 40 different distinct world-wide denominations of Jews,  I would also suggest that Reform in Great Britain is different to in the USA. On my side of the Atlantic Reform and Liberal share the same Rabbinic training and these people will often change from congregations of one to the other and maybe back again.  Likewise, if a person moves to a different town and there is no congregation of their preferred variety within (what is deemed) a reasonable travel distance, there may only be one congregation to join.  However our pandemic with services on Zoom is making it easier to join in services of the flavour that you prefer.  A pretty face may also result in a change of allegiance.

As young marrieds with a child we alternated festival celebrations with another couple and could not devise an alternative to "Godparents" to our mutual agreements (in our wills) that if one couple died then the other would take on the care of the other's children who were already very used to them.   Nearly 55 years later, I am the only parent of the four still alive, but with that same relationship to the other children, it may not be rare.

David Harrison
Birmingham, England.


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Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Godparents? #galicia
 
No one has mentioned what denomination of Judaism their family was part of. I wonder if Reform Judaism had a period in which it used godparents, maybe around the time when worship was moved to Sundays and there were no Bar/Bat Mitzvot.
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Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC


Re: How To Find A Date Of Death In NYC Prior To 1935/SSDI? #records #usa

Barbara Hemmendinger
 

It would be helpful to know the place of death.  Perhaps in a neighboring state, in which case NYC death records would be nonexistent?

Barbara (Elk) Hemmendinger 
Williamsport, PA

BAHSSIN, BASIN, BASSIN, Starodub, Russia
LOWENSOHN, LOWENBERG, Jelgava (Mitau), Bauska, and Riga, Latvia
EHRLICH, Kobrin, Belarus
ZIBULSKY, SHEFKOWITZ, Pereyaslav, Ukraine 


This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #yizkorbooks #ukraine

Bruce Drake
 

I’ve posted many excerpts here about weddings and marriage customs but I found this one to be charming. “A Wedding in Mlynov,” from the that Ukrainian town’s Yizkor book recounts the memories of a young girl visiting her grandparents and getting swept up by the celebration. “Silkele,” says a neighbor, “dance for me like you do at home.” He tells the klezmerim to play a cheerful tune and she dances while the crowd claps enthusiastically. She hears someone saying: “Here is a worldly child.” Her description of the wedding has all the wonder of something seen through a child’s eyes.
 

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Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, MD

Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK
Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel


Re: How To Find A Date Of Death In NYC Prior To 1935/SSDI? #records #usa

Martin Kaminer
 

I'd like to express my gratitude to all the wonderful people on JewishGen for their kindness and generosity in sharing their knowledge. Renee in particular, whose powers are absolutely oracular, as well as everyone else.  You've helped shed light on a mystery that has hung over my family, particularly my father's generation, for nearly a century and caused many to suffer. The answers you provided have raised new questions but there is a welcome feeling of unburdening as some long-held myths fall away. Y'all did a major mitzvah. Thanks so much to all of you and Shabbat Shalom.
Martin Kaminer


Re: How To Find A Date Of Death In NYC Prior To 1935/SSDI? #records #usa

Sarah L Meyer
 

SteveMorse.org in the NYC vital records section - you can use Italiangen or Familysearch and other sites as part of his one step pages.  That said, I went looking on both of these via SteveMorse.org for a marriage that I had found before as part of a presentation and it did not show up.  You might also check Reclaim the records (you will have to search for the link.
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Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


Re: Godparents? #galicia

Gail H. Marcus
 

In my case, my parents still belonged to an Orthodox congregation at that time.  (But that may have been the only convenient option where we lived.)  We eventually joined a Conservative congregation.  Probably when I was about 12.  My great-aunt and -uncle had died by then, so whenever they were designated "godparents" must have been well before that time.

Gail Marcus
Maryland


Re: Frieda Silverman Khotin Bessarabia born circa 1850 died in Khotin circa 1938 #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Marilyn,

I do see two Freida Zilberman in Khotin uezd, born one in 1856 and a second in 1855. They seems lived not in Khotin,  but in towns in that same uezd (county), one family in town of Brichany and second in town of Lipkany.  Sometimes our ancestors, when asking where they are from, will give a name of a large town or a center of county or province.
If you know the names of Freida parents, that might help here.

Thanks,  Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia group Leader and Coordinator


Re: Translation of my grandfather's brother wedding details #poland #translation

Frank Szmulowicz
 

I would be interested in corrections to the translation below, as I am still learning to read Polish script.
cccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc

Leib Horn, properly Hoffer, born and residing in Wiźnica, the son of Alter and Jenta Hoffer, residents of Wiźnica.

Marim Goldschmidt?, also Wieselman, known? in Kosowo, a daughter from a ritual marriage between Fajwel Wieselman and Hania? Goldschmidt? in Kosowo.

August 19, 1902

Official (perhaps the rabbi) Pinkas Hor...?
Witness Eisig Friedlander

Comments column (hard to decipher)
According to the birth certificate dated Wiźnica, August 9, 1902, the groom was born February 7, 1877, and according to the birth certificate volume IV, page 16, 
(she) was born .... July  15, 1877
Proof of ? of the groom dated Wiźnica,  August 15, 1901. 
Etc.

cccccccccccccc

Frank Szmulowicz


Re: View Mate Mystery Booklet - Identification & Translation #translation

rroth@...
 

Thanks for the links. I posted somewhere on Viewmate that my thought is the language is Sanskrit or something similar, I see others here have named Hindi and Nepali so I think we are all on the same page. As for the subject, Kabbala maybe?
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Robert Roth
Kingston, NY
rroth@...


Re: How To Find A Date Of Death In NYC Prior To 1935/SSDI? #records #usa

dbpdallas@...
 

Martin,

Two suggestions which are free to search:
If you locate the record in the FamilySearch database, you can view a digital image of the certificate for no charge at any Family History Center.

David Passman
Dallas, Texas


Re: How To Find A Date Of Death In NYC Prior To 1935/SSDI? #records #usa

Fred Kolbrener
 

Martin,
Have you searched on FamilySearch.org?  Most of the death certificates from NYC are indexed AND partly extracted on family search.  You can get a free account on it.  If you are successful in finding the record of her death, you can download a copy of the record  once the LDS Family History Centers are again open to the public.  With regard to your father whose name you did not list, there were two or more Kaminer male births in NYC according to Familysearch.  

Another place to search is via Ancestry.com which is available at many public libraries.  Ancestry will allow access free at libraries until the end of 2021.  However, you can’t download a copy of the death certificate there.  

You did not provide the name of the person whose data you are seeking, but since it was a sister to your mother, the name probably was not Kaminer.  You implied that this may have been an event that occurred outside of marriage, so you would be searching for someone with your mother’s maiden name.

Suggest you start your searches via Ancestry and FamilySearch.org.  The latter you can do from your home computer.

Good luck.
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Fred Kolbrener
Woodbridge, VA

Researching: KOLBRENER (LezaJsk); SCHWARTZ (Glogow Malapolski); ZINDEBAND (Minsk); LIFSHITZ (St Petersburg); JABELOW (Minsk); BOHRER (Lezajsk); POLLACK (Minsk); BLUMSTEIN/BLUMSZTEJN (Goworowo); FRETER/FRATER (Czyzewo)


Re: Searching for Information on Rabbi Samuel Miller of Scranton, Pennsylvania #usa #records

pathetiq1@...
 

Hi Nancy, 

In your post you write that  you found some records indicating that  Samuel Miller was living in Scranton,  from about 1883 to 1903. I don’t know what  these records were but obviously they were inaccurate and misled you.

-The truth is that Samuel Miller arrived in the US in 1891 and he was joined by his family in the following year or (most probably) in 1893.

-According to her death certificate (attached) Fannie Miller was born in Austria  and  had lived in Pennsylvania for 3 years. Before  that,  in NY for 7 years. 

-From what it appears Samuel's wife's  name was Rose Stern. 

-Here is the 1900 census for the Miller family living in Westchester, NY 
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MSPH-C6C

-By 1910 Samuel Miller was a widower and living with the family of one of his daughters 
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MG82-K6J


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Giannis Daropoulos 

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