Re: Use of English by European Photo Studios #general

Eva Lawrence

If portraits probably taken Europe are printed what appears to be
English stock, I'd assume that they were prints from the original film,
made later on in England. You have to remember that photographic
technique was quite different in pre-digital times.
Eva Lawrence,
St Albans, UK.
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.

Re: Use of English by European Photo Studios #general

Robert Hanna

I have several of those.  The ones I have that have English printing on them were taken on the lower east side in NYC.

Robert Hanna

Re: Gedcom corruption error on Ancestry #general


I think there must be many ways to corrupt gedcom files. I am guilty of several travesties on ancestry - question marks, quotes, parens, hyphens, commas, and I despair of being able to correct what needs correction. Is there a "Gedcom for Idiots" source that someone could recommend? I don't know how to look at the file, or whether it is possible to correct it without making matters worse. I have a big tree (7000-ish), and did not recognize the problems that I might be causing by editorializing in the critical fields, but correcting every entry is very daunting. I don't speak technie, so please have pity! 
Susan Cullen SCHWARTZ

Re: Use of English by European Photo Studios #general

Beth Galleto

Dear Rusty,
The Cabinet Portrait was a type of photograph, also called cabinet card, that could have been made in many countries. I have a number of them, identified with the Russian photography studio in which they were made, in the collection of family photos my grandmother saved. 
Beth Galleto
Washington DC

Re: Request for information on Father after WW2 in Australia #general


Church St Richmond, is in Melbourne.
Stephen Schmideg
Melbourne, Australia

​80 years since the destruction of the Jewish community of Mazheik (Mazeikiai) in Lithuania - new article #lithuania #holocaust

Ilan Ganot

On the 9th day of the Jewish month of Av, Jewish people around the world fast and read the scroll of Lamentations (Megillat Eicha) in memory of the destruction of the Holy Temple in Jerusalem twice, approx. 2,600 and 2,000 years ago. 
On the next day, the 10th day of Av, we shall mark 'just' 80 years since the destruction of the Jewish community of Mazheik, the town of our ancestors. On this day (3rd of August, 1941), the men of Jewish community were shot to death and buried in mass graves next to the local Jewish cemetery. Six days thereafter, on the 16th of Av (19th of August, 1941), the same fate happened to the women and children of this community in the same place. 
Eighty years after this disaster, and in order to commemorate this day, we - descendants of members of the Jewish community of Mazheik - wrote an articleon the subject of:
"The Legacy of a Jewish Community – its Preservation and Inheritance - Mazheik as an example".
The article was written by Dr. Ephraim Lapid in collaboration with Ilan Ganot, translated into English by Raymond Ravinsky and uploaded to the Mazheik Memorial Website (MMWS) by Richie Baum, volunteer at the JewishGEN KehilaLinks project.
The article can be viewed at the following links:
In English:
In Hebrew:
Ilan Ganot and Raymond Ravinsky
co-webmasters, Mazheik Memorial Website (MMWS)
"How doth the city sit solitary, that was full of people! How is she become as a widow! She that was great among the nations, and princess among the provinces, how is she become tributary!" (Scroll of Lamentations [Megillat Eikhah] 1:1)

Re: Gedcom corruption error on Ancestry #general

Dahn Cukier

The forward slash is to offset the family name.
I have not tried, but I think the software (Ancestry) should
have refused the forward slash as part of the name.

The exported  GEDfile  line comes out as
1 NAME Dahn  /Zukrowicz/   

I suggest looking at the exported file.
If all the names appear, then the download, worked and
can be repaired. The slash can be changed to a dot (.),
but check that it loads correctly before changing all the

ALWAYS copy the file as a backup and work on only one of the
files. Save the corrected file often so you can go
back to a later more corrected version.

Good luck
Dahn  Zukrowicz   

When you start to read readin,
how do you know the fellow that
wrote the readin,
wrote the readin right?

Festus Hagen
Long Branch Saloon
Dodge City, Kansas

On Sunday, July 18, 2021, 3:51:08 AM GMT+3, Victoria Fisch <victoriafisch@...> wrote:

For some reason I recently began to use a forward slash mark to separate Anglicized or American names from Hebrew names in the first name box on Ancestry. Today I discovered that using a slash mark on Ancestry can corrupt a downloaded Gedcom.
DO NOT separate multiple names using a forward slash mark in either the first name box OR the surname box.
If you do, when you download your Gedcom, the slash mark will tell the file to separate the double or triple first names, jump one of the first names to the surname box, and delete the original surname.
When you upload the Gedcom back into an Ancestry account, the last name will now be missing and one of the first names will be in the surname box.
Victoria Fisch
Sacramento CA

Re: Gedcom corruption error on Ancestry #general

Odeda Zlotnick

A google search for "Gedcom forward slash" indicates this seems to be true of all Gedcoms - not only on Ancestry - a forward slash is part of the Gedcom syntax for separating the given name from the surname
Odeda Zlotnick
Jerusalem, Israel.

Gedcom corruption error on Ancestry #general

Victoria Fisch

For some reason I recently began to use a forward slash mark to separate Anglicized or American names from Hebrew names in the first name box on Ancestry. Today I discovered that using a slash mark on Ancestry can corrupt a downloaded Gedcom.
DO NOT separate multiple names using a forward slash mark in either the first name box OR the surname box.
If you do, when you download your Gedcom, the slash mark will tell the file to separate the double or triple first names, jump one of the first names to the surname box, and delete the original surname.
When you upload the Gedcom back into an Ancestry account, the last name will now be missing and one of the first names will be in the surname box.
Victoria Fisch
Sacramento CA

Re: Request for information on Father after WW2 in Australia #general

Pieter Hoekstra

I think this is your father:
EHRMANN KURT : Service Number - V377498 : Date of birth - 11 Jul 1922 : Place of birth - COLOGNE GERMANY : Place of enlistment - CAULFIELD VIC : Next of Kin - EHRMANN H

There is more than one Richmond in Australia, certainly one in Melbourne NSW and another in Sydney NSW. Given Kurt enlisted in Caulfield, a suburb of Melbourne Victoria, I would expect it is Richmond in Victoria. Distance Melbourne - Sydney is 1,000km give or take.

You can search within the archives here -

Pieter Hoekstra 
Moss / Moses, De Costa - London and Brighton
Barnett, Da Costa, Lazarus, Joseph, Judah, Solomon - London

Polish marriage records on ViewMate #translation #poland

Alex Guri


I've posted marriage records in Polish for which I'd appreciate a translation.
They are on ViewMate at the following addresses:

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much,
Alex Guri

Use of English by European Photo Studios #general

Rusty Wilson

I have several early 20th century photos printed on card stock with the words "Cabinet Portrait" in English.  But it would make sense that some of these photos were taken in Europe.  Does anyone know if European photographers ever used English printing on their card stock? 
Any input appreciated.  
Rusty Wilson

Rusty Wilson

Request for information on Father after WW2 in Australia #general


Our Father Kurt Ehrmann was an enemy/friendly alien (Germany-England via KT-HMT Dunera-Australia) private the Australian Army and served in the Employment company in Australia (AEC) formally enlisting in Spring of 42
He came to the US in the Spring of 46 after his discharge in 45 from the AEC.
According to documents, we believe he spent some time in two places during the year he was delayed in leaving Australia for the US on the SS Matson for his 3 week trip to SF

We know that 
1. He spent some time in Richmond (Church street)..believe in southernmost Australia??
and then we believe at some point he
2. traveled up north and stayed a second place and believe he embarked on the SS Matson for his 3 week journey to SF which we believe left from Melbourne or Sydney in spring of 46 (we have original ship manifest w his name on it)

I know it is a long shot, but would be appreciative if anyone has any knowledge during this time period Spring 45 and beyond any organization that might have been responsible for finding housing of men in Australia from the time from discharge to their final destination.
Paul Ehrmann

Re: Godparents? #galicia

Stephan Owen Parnes

The first step in understanding a record that has been identified by reviewing an indexing project should be to review the original document.  In this case the original document may be found in the Grodek Jewish birth records available at FamilySearch.

In the box showing the child’s name in this document are the names of the sandek and (I believe) the midwife.  In a box with the heading “Parentes” the names of the child’s mother and father are listed. In a box with the heading “Patrini” are found the “godparents.”

Thus, the term “Godparents” does not refer to the sandek in this record.  It is not clear to me whether the couple named as Godparents  are relatives or not.  This couple would likely be important people in the town, if not relatives.

In any case, the woman named here (the “Godmother”—sometimes called “kwatterin”) would bring the baby from the mother and then hand the baby to the man named here (the “Godfather”—sometimes called “kwatter”).  The “Godfather” would the bring the infant in and place him on the Chair of Elijah or hand the infant to the mohel or to the child’s father.

Regarding Freude’s maiden name, looking the JRI-Poland’s indexes shows a Brzezany marriage record for Uscher Stahl and Freude Feintuch in 1879. Uscher Stahl’s father was Hersch Leib Stahl. Thus, the infant you mentioned would likely be named after Uscher’s father. Whether or not Freude’s mother might have been a Parnes is not clear without further research.

Stephan Parnes
Great Barrington, MA

On Jul 13, 2021, at 3:34 PM, Nikki Nafziger <nikkinashmusic@...> wrote:

I found my great grandfather's birth record in the all Galicia database. It listed Moses and Elkie Parnes as Godparents 1 and 2 (given names and surnames). I didn't think Jews had Godparents. … Please help me understand the translation/meaning of Godparents.  Thank you. (Nikki Drex by

Searching for Descendants of Izrail Illich Ratner born 1830 and Bogdana Aronova from Mogilev and St Petersburg. #belarus #russia

Trish Lane

Izrail and Bogdana had 3 sons, Aron, Pavel born 1859, and Ilya born 1875. There were 6 daughters, Gena, Alexandra, Anna, Ekaterina,Rosa, Aksiniya and Cecilia. ages unknown.
I am connected to Pavel Izrailovic Ratner who married my Great Aunt Ita Julia. I also believe that my Great Grandmother, Julia's mother belonged to the Ratner family as Ratner was her maiden name. Was Pavel her nephew or cousin?
I would be very grateful to find the connection. I know that Pavel and Julia died in Paris where they lived since leaving St Petersburg in ? 1917.
Joel Ratner has edited this information on Genealogical Indexer. Could we be connected?
Kind Regards,
Patricia Lane
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Re: reconciling difference between family lore and Arolsen Archive information #france #holocaust


Hi Aline

As far as I know Mittelbau-Dora was a subcamp of Buchenwald not of Auschwitz. There is a website about Buchenwald and Mittelbau-Dora.

At the end of the war many prisoners from Auschwitz were sent to other camps like Mauthausen, some with trains, but many on the so-called "death march".

The Arolsen Archives have some records of Mauthausen online, but there is also a website about Mauthausen camp.

The deceased of the Mauthausen Concentration Camp

Did you seearch with different spellings of the surname on the Arolsen Archives? Sometimes I found one and the same person with different spellings there.


Corinne Iten

Re: How To Find A Date Of Death In NYC Prior To 1935/SSDI? #records #usa

The Becker's Email

Check out as they battle both NY state and NY city for release of records.  See if they have records from this time period.

Johanna Becker
Newport, RI

Jewish-Uzbek Historical Archives Open to the Public #announcements #records

Jan Meisels Allen



Uzbekistan is a central Asian nation and former part of the Soviet Republic. As reported by the Jerusalem Post, it is now officially researching and documenting its Jewish community. Jews have there since the region was crushed by the hooves Genghis Khan’s horses.  “This also includes hundreds of thousands of Jews who managed to escape the chains of Germany’s Panzer tanks.”

When the Nazis invaded the Soviet Union, Uzbekistan opened its doors to Jews and other fleeing the Germans.

As reported, “The Central State Archive of the Republic of Uzbekistan has been instructed to make information about the lives of Jews during World War II and before available to the public. The archive is also currently in the process of signing an agreement with the Central Archives for the History of the Jewish People in Jerusalem, and soon afterward also with Yad Vashem.”


Almost “every family in Uzbekistan was affected by World War II, as the country was still part of the Soviet Union at the time. More than 580,000 Uzbek nationals lost their lives, including tens of thousands of Jews. Some 100,000 Soviet factories in areas conquered by the Wehrmacht were relocated to Uzbekistan. These factories produced arms and ammunition, which were then shipped to the front. Most importantly, Uzbekistan became a sanctuary for refugees fleeing from Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Poland and Serbia.” It was the Uzbek tradition of hospitality that saved 1.5 million people, including over 200,000 Jews.


The Uzbekistan archives website is located at:


If you use Chrome as your browser it will provide English translation to some of the material. If not use a translation service such as google translate

or DeepL


More information on the Archives, not Jewish-specific may be seen at:

To read more see:


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee



Translation of Archive Letter in Ukraninian #ukraine #russia #translation

Harry Moatz

Following an inquiry to the State Archivs of Poltava Oblast about records it contains, I received the attached reply. I would appreciate a translation.  I believe it is in Ukraninian, but someone familiar with Russian also may be able to translate its contents.
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
Harry Moatz
Potomac, MD, USA

SCHWARTZ/SCHWARZ/SZWARZ - Monasterzyska and Stanislawow
TEITELBAUM - Yazloweic
KESSLER - Pruzhany
KLAUBER - Sambor
MEYER - Dembitz

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Re: Godparents? #galicia

David Harrison

The question of denomination is very important, as is a name of the country in a particular period.  I have heard, more than once that there are more than 40 different distinct world-wide denominations of Jews,  I would also suggest that Reform in Great Britain is different to in the USA. On my side of the Atlantic Reform and Liberal share the same Rabbinic training and these people will often change from congregations of one to the other and maybe back again.  Likewise, if a person moves to a different town and there is no congregation of their preferred variety within (what is deemed) a reasonable travel distance, there may only be one congregation to join.  However our pandemic with services on Zoom is making it easier to join in services of the flavour that you prefer.  A pretty face may also result in a change of allegiance.

As young marrieds with a child we alternated festival celebrations with another couple and could not devise an alternative to "Godparents" to our mutual agreements (in our wills) that if one couple died then the other would take on the care of the other's children who were already very used to them.   Nearly 55 years later, I am the only parent of the four still alive, but with that same relationship to the other children, it may not be rare.

David Harrison
Birmingham, England.

From: main@... <main@...> on behalf of jbonline1111@... <jbonline1111@...>
Sent: 15 July 2021 19:22
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Subject: Re: [] Godparents? #galicia
No one has mentioned what denomination of Judaism their family was part of. I wonder if Reform Judaism had a period in which it used godparents, maybe around the time when worship was moved to Sundays and there were no Bar/Bat Mitzvot.
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC

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