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Re: Blog on Jedwabne Massacre. #holocaust #poland

jswack@...
 

I am so grateful to you and Mr. Tryczyk for writing this book.  My father’s father was from Grajewo and his grandfather from Rajgrod. I read the Rajgrod chapter twice.  It was absolutely horrific but I really needed to find out what happened. My grandfather’s family lived in most of those towns and villages.  

Jeanne Swack (of the. Rajgrod Swacks) 
Madison, Wisconsin


Re: Gedcom corruption error on Ancestry #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
 

"In Legacy, you can use Jewish dates in the description or note fields but not in the date fields at this time"

I have been using Jewish Calendar dates in date fields since I started using it.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


Buchenwald 1945 British Report - mention of Avraham KIRCHENBLATT #holocaust #poland

Peter Lebensold
 

This is a link to an item up for auction August 2 in Jerusalem: A copy of the 1945 British Parliamentary report on conditions at Buchenwald when it was (just recently) liberated.  I mention it because the auctioneer's summary mentions - in particular - a 14-year-old inmate named Avraham KIRCHENBLATT from Radom, Poland, who perhaps appears on the family tree of someone here.

Peter Lebensold
Toronto

Researching: GELBFISZ/FISH/GOLDWYN (Warsaw, Los Angeles), LEBENSOLD/LIBENSCHULD/and variants (anywhere), SZAFIR/SHAFFER/ and variants (Warsaw, Brazil, New York, Texas, elsewhere in USA), KORN (Poland, Philippines, San Francisco), BORENSTEIN (Poland, USA, Canada), WERNER (Poland, Glasgow) ...
Additionally, in/from Poland: BAUMEISTER, BRUMBERG, GUTLIEZER, HOPPENGARTEN, JARECKA, KORMAN, LEVY, NUSBAUM, OPOSDOWER, REJZMAN, ZEMSZ


Re: Blog on Jedwabne Massacre. #holocaust #poland

David Harrison
 

And now much of the same area is, against the Common Market Law declaring itself LGBT-free.  A different version of NOT US.
David Harrison
Birmingham, England
(I am not LGBT, just an ordinary Jew who believes that all humanity is of the same family and should help one another.)


From: main@... <main@...> on behalf of Frank Szmulowicz <FrankSzmulowicz@...>
Sent: 19 July 2021 12:53
To: main@... <main@...>
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Blog on Jedwabne Massacre. #poland
 
I invite everyone to read "Miasta śmierci" by Mirosław Tryczyk in Polish or its translation, "The Towns of Death" (Rowman and Littlefield). There is overwhelming proof of Polish "neighbor" participation in the planning and execution of the pogroms not only in Jedwabne but in DOZENS of towns of Eastern Poland. The book provides eyewitness accounts of a few survivors, bystanders, and even perpetrators from their court testimonies. Jedwabne was not an isolated case but one in a pattern of pogroms committed by the local Polish population. All attempt to erase the true history are doomed to failure: tens of thousands of Jews were murdered in 1941-42 with nary a German presence in the most brutal way possible, using most primitive weapons, inflicting humiliation, suffering, and death to men, women, and children. In Jedwabne, the Jews were herded into a barn and burned there. A few who managed to escape the pogrom were hunted down by the locals and turned over to the Germans or killed outright. Jewish properties were systematically looted and taken over by the local population. Story upon story verify that account.  Obfuscation and denial are despicable and dishonor the victims. Poland must face up to its history before it can move on.

Frank Szmulowicz 


What nationality is my Grandmother? #germany #france

Debby Gincig Painter
 

My Grandmother was born in Alsace before the WWI when it was still Germany. (1905. Her birth certificate is in German.) After the war, when France was awarded back the two provinces of Alsace-Lorraine, her father moved the family to Germany because they did not want to be French citizens. However, the 1921 German Census (only one I have found so far), does lists them as French.

In 1925, she married my Grandfather (he was Polish) and moved to France. When deportations began there, they considered stateless and deported (7/1942) but my Mother and her 3 sisters were not because they were French citizens and French citizens were not being deported yet so it seems that the French didn't consider her French or she won't have been deported at that time. German records I found list place of birth (sometimes with incorrect birthdate) but never citizenship. 

I have not found French censuses online for the years 1925-1941 to find out what citizenship my Grandmother was considered after she moved back to France, during the war or if had it changed status because of the war and her place/time of birth. Any ideas on how to find out? Thank you.

Thank you
Debby Painter


Getting in Touch with Suzann Wynne #general

Esther Brill
 

I am trying to get in touch with Suzann Wynne from MD who offered to look up some information in an out of print book she had, but unfortunately can't find the original message to reply to her.  I'd be happy if you could forward this to her.   
Thank you
Esther Levine Brill


Re: Use of English by European Photo Studios #general

Ava (Sherlock) Cohn
 

The use of the words "Cabinet Card" "Cabinet Portrait" or "Cabinet Photograph" are generic terms for the type of photographic mounting that measures roughly 4 1/4" x 6 1/2". It does not refer to the image itself but to the card, though in common usage,  many people will refer to the entire card including the image as a "Cabinet Card". The terms, though in English, were universally used so that they do not indicate a specific country. They also do not necessarily indicate that a particular photographer was itinerant or had a studio, unless the studio name is also printed on the card, either on the front or the back or both sides. Photographers bought these cards in bulk from card manufacturers. Cabinet cards were introduced in America in 1866 and were used in Russia at least until the first decade of the 20th century. Ava (Sherlock) Cohn, Illinois


Russian Travel Permit #russia

Karen Gramigna-Warren
 

My husband’s great grandfather left a couple of documents for the family.  One was pass down as his “passport” to the US.  It was from 1909/1910 and was in Russian.  I’ve had it translated and it states it was issued from the town Motolya petty bourgeois’ management.  Motol is now in Belarus.  His occupation was Shoemaker, and the document goes on to state that he is “permitted to different towns and settlements of the Russian Empire until July 5, 1910”.  It was issued on July 5, 1909.

 

So, my questions are:

  1. Is this just an internal permit allowing him to travel around Russia?  I assume it was due to his occupation and required because he was Jewish?
  2. I’ve tried to understand “Petty Bourgeois” and I think it was a social class between middle class and peasants?  So that fact he was a shoemaker put him in this class?
  3. He did emigrate to the US in June 1910, a month before this document would expire.

 

Thank you

Karen Gramigna-Warren

 

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Translation help needed of handwritten German letters/postcards #translation #germany

Elaine Berghausen
 

My grandfather, Salomon MORITZ, died at Treblinka.  I have recently received some pages of letters and postcards from my cousin that my grandfather wrote to his niece in the years before his deportation which require translation.  There are 6 images with these letters/postcards.
Please contact me at the email below if you can help with the translation.

Elaine Berghausen
Sacramento, CA
eberghausen@...


Re: Census of yellow star apartments in Budapest #holocaust #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

The records have been digitized by the Budapest City Archives and can be viewed and searched at Hungaricana https://hungaricana.hu/en/  
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Vivian Kahn, Santa Rosa, California
JewishGen Director of Hungarian Research


Re: Gedcom corruption error on Ancestry #general

Sarah L Meyer
 

In Legacy, you can use Jewish dates in the description or note fields but not in the date fields at this time.  About 10 years ago, I met someone from the Legacy team in person (on a plane I think), who said that they were working to make the program more "Jewish friendly", he mentioned the dates.  I mentioned the individual input screen's baptism field, which I now understand can't have a different label but could be hidden in a new version of Legacy.  I keep waiting for that to happen.
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Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


Re: Researching: family Gunsberger of Papa, Hungary, including Flora/Fradel, who married a Lazar. Bodansky, Hungary. Lafosky, Ukraine, Hackers, Austria-Germany. Anyone else? #hungary #austria-czech #ukraine #holocaust #unitedkingdom

Bberiman597
 

My maiden name is Hacker.  My Hackers were from the Ukraine.  Go to the on-line bermansbranches.com for my latest "hacker" info.  Would love to trade info. with you.  Barbara Hacker Berman


Need help to access the State Archives of Mogilev Region #belarus #records

S.raskin@...
 

 

How can I have online access to the full context of the following documents from the State Archives of Mogilev Region?

 

ü  FOND 2151 (Mogilev Treasury Chamber), op. 1, cases 108, 111, 113 (respectively, the years 1816, 1834, 1850).

 

ü  120 Additional audit reports of peasants and petty bourgeoisie in the town of Klimovichi and small towns in Klimovichi district, Mogilev province 1858

 

 

ü  121 Revision lists of peasants and retired privates in the town of Klimovichi, Mogilev Province, 1858. Klimovichi and localities in Klimovichi district, Mogilev province 1868-1869

 

ü  122 Revision lists of peasants and indefinite vacationers in the town of Klimovichi, Mogilev region, 1868-1869. Klimovichi and localities of Klimovichi district, Mogilev province 1869-1872

 

Please answer to Salmo Raskin at s.raskin@...

 

 

 

 


Re: Blog on Jedwabne Massacre. #holocaust #poland

Frank Szmulowicz
 

I invite everyone to read "Miasta śmierci" by Mirosław Tryczyk in Polish or its translation, "The Towns of Death" (Rowman and Littlefield). There is overwhelming proof of Polish "neighbor" participation in the planning and execution of the pogroms not only in Jedwabne but in DOZENS of towns of Eastern Poland. The book provides eyewitness accounts of a few survivors, bystanders, and even perpetrators from their court testimonies. Jedwabne was not an isolated case but one in a pattern of pogroms committed by the local Polish population. All attempt to erase the true history are doomed to failure: tens of thousands of Jews were murdered in 1941-42 with nary a German presence in the most brutal way possible, using most primitive weapons, inflicting humiliation, suffering, and death to men, women, and children. In Jedwabne, the Jews were herded into a barn and burned there. A few who managed to escape the pogrom were hunted down by the locals and turned over to the Germans or killed outright. Jewish properties were systematically looted and taken over by the local population. Story upon story verify that account.  Obfuscation and denial are despicable and dishonor the victims. Poland must face up to its history before it can move on.

Frank Szmulowicz 


Re: ​80 years since the destruction of the Jewish community of Mazheik (Mazeikiai) in Lithuania - new article #lithuania #holocaust

Frank Szmulowicz
 

I would recommend reading 
Our People: Discovering Lithuania's Hidden Holocaust
 
by Nazi-hunter Efraim Zuroff and Lithuanian author/journalist Rūta Vanagaitė
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This remarkable book traces the quest for the truth about the Holocaust in Lithuania by two ostensible enemies: Rūta a descendant of the perpetrators, Efraim a descendant of the victims. Rūta Vanagaitė, a successful Lithuanian writer, was motivated by her recent discoveries that some of her relatives had played a role in the mass murder of Jews and that Lithuanian officials had tried to hide the complicity of local collaborators. Efraim Zuroff, a noted Israeli Nazi hunter, had both professional and personal motivations. He had worked for years to bring Lithuanian war criminals to justice and to compel local authorities to tell the truth about the Holocaust in their country. The facts that his maternal grandparents were born in Lithuania and that he was named for a great-uncle who was murdered with his family in Vilnius with the active help of Lithuanians made his search personal as well.

Our People exposes the significant role in implementing the Final Solution played by local political leaders and the prewar Lithuanian administration that remained in place during the Nazi occupation. It also tackles the sensitive issue of the motivation of thousands of ordinary Lithuanians who were complicit in the murder of their Jewish neighbors. At the heart of the book, these are the issues that Rūta and Efraim discuss, debate, and analyze as they crisscross the country to visit dozens of Holocaust mass murder sites in Lithuania and neighboring Belarus. This book follows them on their remarkable journey as they search for neglected graves, interview eyewitnesses, and uncover hints of the rich life that had existed in hundreds of Jewish communities throughout Lithuania.


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Frank Szmulowicz


41th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy, August 1-5, 2021 #bessarabia #announcements

Yefim Kogan
 

Hello researchers,

I would like to remind you about conference we have in 2 weeks. I hope that you could join the conference and participate in many sessions, discussions, events.
Our Bessarabia Group meeting is going to be on Monday, August 2 from 11.15am.  We will discuss our current progress of many projects and future plans.  Please bring questions to that meeting.
There is also one session you can listen during the conference: "How do you make sense of genealogical information you found?"  I am discussing the quality of the records we getting from the archive,  the translation process.  How you should interpret the main data you are getting from JewishGen searches:  Names,  Dates, Towns, additional information ?  Are there any issues with that data?

I am also going to have during the conference Personal Consultations.  If interested, please contact me directly and we could schedule a zoom session for it  (yefimk@...).

Here is a link at Bessarabia website about our events at the conference:
https://www.jewishgen.org/bessarabia/PTM_Article.asp?id=214

all the best,
Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia Group Leader and Coordinator


Re: Census of yellow star apartments in Budapest #holocaust #hungary

G. C. Kalman
 

Dear Diane,
you should turn to the administrators of the project http://www.yellowstarhouses.org - I am sure they can and will help you.

Gyorgy C. Kalman


Re: Census of yellow star apartments in Budapest #holocaust #hungary

Marianna Toth
 

To the best of my knowledge in 2015 (during the renovation of a flat in Kossuth Lajos place, inside a hole which was hidden by walls) 7000 forms were found, which are now in Budapest city Archives. It does not include every district (in fact only a few ones). If you can give me address, I will look at it for you.
I don't know if there are other sources, but there is a webpage of yellow star houses
http://www.yellowstarhouses.org/
best regards
Marianna Toth


Re: Viewmate translation request: Dutch #translation

r.peeters
 

I hope this will be of help.
Ron Peeters (NL)

HAL 1920-1940 passenger lists online

   Are you looking for passengers who traveled with the Holland-America Line (HAL) between 1920 and 1940? From now on you can view the passenger lists from this period via the websites of the Rotterdam City Archives and WieWasWie. Website: Rotterdam City Archives Website: WieWasWie    
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Who was George Crale? #canada

David Scriven
 

Our group (JGSBC) is looking at the history of people buried in the Vancouver Jewish Cemetery. I'm investigating George Crale, b Dec 2, 1925, Glasgow, Scotland, d Feb 5, 1998, in a care home in Vancouver (dates from death certificate). He was single and no relatives are listed. The only record I could find for George Crale is a 1962 record of his passing through Miami en route to Nassau having flown from Mexico. The date and place of birth is correct, but his citizenship is shown as Brazilian. The next record (shown below) is dated 1946 and is the admission of George CRAL to Brazil and granting him permanent residence.
 

  1. The birth date and place fits George Crale
  2. He is single
  3. He was a chemist (probably a pharmacist)
  4. The signature is consistent with Cral (not a spelling error)
  5. He was granted the visa in Antwerp on 8 July,1946 as a stateless person.
  6. His parents are listed as John Cral and Mary Kane (Mary from a Sao Paulo record)
There is one more record from Sao Paulo listing the grant of Brazilian citizenship, but other than that I can find no other records.

So where's the mystery?
  1. There is no record in Scotland's people of a birth of a Cral, Crale or Kane.
  2. If he was born in Scotland, how did he become stateless?
  3. If he wasn't born in Scotland, where was he born? - the name Cral seems to come from NW Europe.
  4. How did he qualify as a chemist, as a Jew, in Europe, during the war?
  5. In the Arolsen archives there are a number of Cral's listed but none would fit either John Cral or his son.
There are a number of inconsistencies which make me wonder who he really was. Anyone have any ideas?

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David Scriven
Vancouver, Canada

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