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Re: Why St. Louis? #usa

pweinthal
 

I always thought the primary attraction of Saint Louis was the good German beer!

Seriously though, StLC was home to an enormous German community which had a tremendous cultural (and brewing) impact on the area. Members of this forum need to remember that all Germans - Gentile and Jew - were Landsmand in a new land and shared much in common. As with other immigrant groups, people settled where there were others from the same background and language. German Jews emigrated to the US in large numbers starting in the 1840s-50s. Germanic Jews did not segregate themselves. They integrated into StL, started businesses, created communities and Jewish institutions that exist today. This story is true for my ancestors who came to the US in the 19th century.

Pat Weinthal, USA


Re: Town name: Szabotits, Szobatit, or something else? #austria-czech #galicia #germany #hungary #slovakia

Helen Kon
 

Hi. I got Subotica, a city in Serbia, when I typed the Hebrew into search.


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Helen Kon
New York City, NY


Yedinitz Yizkor book project #yizkorbooks #JewishGenUpdates

bassfish4@...
 

Please find attached the progress report on the Yedinitz Yizkor book project. Please post this on the forum.

Allan Ira Bass
Coordinator


Ukrainian archives completes digitizing of Kiev Jewish vital records #ukraine #records

Ted Gostin
 

The website of the Central State Historical Archives of Ukraine in Kyiv has finished digitizing all of the surviving Jewish birth, marriage, divorce and death records from 1863 through 1920, and they are now online for review.

I have posted messages about this digitizing project twice before, indicating that they had digitized the records up through 1912.  They have now completed the digitizing through 1920.  Many of these records had already been digitized by Alex Krakovsky on his "Archive: Jewish Town" website, but his site lacks most of the later records that now appear on the Ukrainian archives site.  Specifically, the following birth, marriage, and death records for Kiev City for 1913 through 1920 appear on the archives' own website, but not yet on the Alex Krakovsky site.  While I have not listed divorce records here, they are also available on the site.  (Note that the actual item numbers, or delo/sprava numbers, are different on the two sites.  The files were apparently renumbered before the Central State Archives, often abbreviated CDIAK, began their digitizing project.  Thus, the numbers listed below for that site are the new delo/sprava numbers, while those listed on the Alex Krakovsky site are the old numbers.)

Kiev Jewish births 1913
fond 1164, opis 1, sprava 146 (sprava 501 on Krakovsky site)
cdiak.archives.gov.ua/spysok_fondiv/1164/0001/0146/

Kiev Jewish births 1914
fond 1164, opis 1, sprava 149 (sprava 505 on Krakovsky site)
cdiak.archives.gov.ua/spysok_fondiv/1164/0001/0149/

Kiev Jewish births 1915
fond 1164, opis 1, sprava 154 (sprava 510 on Krakovsky site)
cdiak.archives.gov.ua/spysok_fondiv/1164/0001/0154/

Kiev Jewish births 1916
fond 1164, opis 1, sprava 158 (sprava 514 on Krakovsky site)
cdiak.archives.gov.ua/spysok_fondiv/1164/0001/0158/

Kiev Jewish births 1917
fond 1164, opis 1, sprava 161 (sprava 517 on Krakovsky site)
cdiak.archives.gov.ua/spysok_fondiv/1164/0001/0161/

Kiev Jewish births 1918
fond 1164, opis 1, sprava 166 (sprava 522 on Krakovsky site)
cdiak.archives.gov.ua/spysok_fondiv/1164/0001/0166/

Kiev Jewish births 1919-1920, 1st book
fond 1164, opis 1, sprava 173 (sprava 530 on Krakovsky site)
cdiak.archives.gov.ua/spysok_fondiv/1164/0001/0173/

Kiev Jewish births 1919-1920, 2nd book
fond 1164, opis 1, sprava 174 (sprava 531 on Krakovsky site)
cdiak.archives.gov.ua/spysok_fondiv/1164/0001/0174/

Kiev Jewish marriages 1914, book 1
fond 1164, opis 1, sprava 150 (sprava 506 on Krakovsky site)
cdiak.archives.gov.ua/spysok_fondiv/1164/0001/0150/

Kiev Jewish marriages 1914, book 2
fond 1164, opis 1, sprava 151 (sprava 507 on Krakovsky site)
cdiak.archives.gov.ua/spysok_fondiv/1164/0001/0151/

Kiev Jewish marriages 1915, book 1
fond 1164, opis 1, sprava 155 (sprava 511 on Krakovsky site)
cdiak.archives.gov.ua/spysok_fondiv/1164/0001/0155/

Kiev Jewish marriages 1915, book 2
fond 1164, opis 1, sprava 156 (sprava 512 on Krakovsky site)
cdiak.archives.gov.ua/spysok_fondiv/1164/0001/0156/

Kiev Jewish marriages 1916
fond 1164, opis 1, sprava 159 (sprava 515 on Krakovsky site)
cdiak.archives.gov.ua/spysok_fondiv/1164/0001/0159/

Kiev Jewish marriages 1917, book 1
fond 1164, opis 1, sprava 162 (sprava 518 on Krakovsky site)
cdiak.archives.gov.ua/spysok_fondiv/1164/0001/0162/

Kiev Jewish marriages 1917, book 2
fond 1164, opis 1, sprava 163 (sprava 519 on Krakovsky site)
cdiak.archives.gov.ua/spysok_fondiv/1164/0001/0163/

Kiev Jewish marriages 1918, book 1
fond 1164, opis 1, sprava 167 (sprava 523 on Krakovsky site)
cdiak.archives.gov.ua/spysok_fondiv/1164/0001/0167/

Kiev Jewish marriages 1918, book 2
fond 1164, opis 1, sprava 168 (sprava 524 on Krakovsky site)
cdiak.archives.gov.ua/spysok_fondiv/1164/0001/0168/

Kiev Jewish marriages 1918-1920
fond 1164, opis 1, sprava 169 (sprava 525 on Krakovsky site)
cdiak.archives.gov.ua/spysok_fondiv/1164/0001/0169/

Kiev Jewish marriages 1919
fond 1164, opis 1, sprava 175 (sprava 532 on Krakovsky site)
cdiak.archives.gov.ua/spysok_fondiv/1164/0001/0175/

Kiev Jewish deaths 1914
fond 1164, opis 1, sprava 153 (sprava 509 on Krakovsky site)
/cdiak.archives.gov.ua/spysok_fondiv/1164/0001/0153/

Kiev Jewish deaths 1915
fond 1164, opis 1, sprava 157 (sprava 513 on Krakovsky site)
cdiak.archives.gov.ua/spysok_fondiv/1164/0001/0157/

Kiev Jewish deaths 1916
fond 1164, opis 1, sprava 160 (sprava 516 on Krakovsky site)
cdiak.archives.gov.ua/spysok_fondiv/1164/0001/0160/

Kiev Jewish deaths 1917, book 1
fond 1164, opis 1, sprava 164 (sprava 520 on Krakovsky site)
cdiak.archives.gov.ua/spysok_fondiv/1164/0001/0164/

Kiev Jewish deaths 1918, book 1
fond 1164, opis 1, sprava 171 (sprava 528 on Krakovsky site)
cdiak.archives.gov.ua/spysok_fondiv/1164/0001/0171/

As with my previous posts, there are several differences between the scans on the Alex Krakovsky site and those on the CDIAK site that should be noted.  First, on the Alex Krakovsky site, the records are scanned as one single PDF file for the entire record book.  Thus, it is possible to download an entire year's worth of one type of records at one time.  On the CDIAK site, the records are scanned as separate JPG images for each page, meaning that are hundreds or thousands of images to download to cover a single year's worth of births, marriages or deaths.  Second, on the Alex Krakovsky site, both the left-hand (Russian) and right-hand (Hebrew) pages were scanned as one image, showing both versions of the record together.  On the CDIAK website, the left-hand and right-hand pages were scanned separately.  These differences mean that reviewing the largely unindexed records is much more time-consuming on the CDIAK site.  (Note that there are some multi-year indexes to some of the records, and these have been scanned and are available on both sites.

The overall list of the Kiev Jewish vital records at CDIAK can be found at:

cdiak.archives.gov.ua/spysok_fondiv/1164/0001/

The list of available Kiev vital records on the Alex Krakovsky site can be found at:

uk.wikisource.org/wiki/Архів:ЦДІАК/1164/1#Київ

While the Ukraine SIG is at work indexing many of these digitized records, the sheer volume of records means that it will be some time before the Ukraine database on JewishGen has full indexes to these records. 

Ted Gostin
Sherman Oaks, California
tedgostin@... 


Re: Unable to upload a GEDCOM to add now data to JFJP #general

 

Definitely broken. Repeating instructions won't help - step 6 gives you a log in screen even though your are already logged in.

This was working somewhat yesterday since I had to check something (didn't do the upload then). It's telling that the instructions include screenshots of Window 3.1 and Netscape!
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Jeff Goldner
Researching Goldner, Singer, Neuman, Braun, Schwartz, Gluck, Reichfeld (Hungary/Slovakia); Adler, Roth, Ader (Galicia); Soltz/Shultz/Zuckerman/Zicherman (Vitebsk, maybe Lithuania)


Re: Town name: Szabotits, Szobatit, or something else? #austria-czech #galicia #germany #hungary #slovakia

 

How about Szabolcs? And possibly Gorlice (just north of Slovakia now).
--
Jeff Goldner
Researching Goldner, Singer, Neuman, Braun, Schwartz, Gluck, Reichfeld (Hungary/Slovakia); Adler, Roth, Ader (Galicia); Soltz/Shultz/Zuckerman/Zicherman (Vitebsk, maybe Lithuania)


JFJP - warning about privatizing individuals #general

 

When you upload a GEDCOM, JFJP does not follow best practices to privatize living individuals. It does hide dates and places but not names (this is documented but unexpected). This is not consistent with any other public tree program that I know of (Ancestry, FTDNA, etc.). I was contacted yesterday about a living individual in my tree that appeared on JFJP and was surprised by that.

So, going forward when I export from FTM which I use for all my trees, I will make sure to take the extra step of checking the box to "Privatize living people". Just something to keep in mind.
--
Jeff Goldner
Researching Goldner, Singer, Neuman, Braun, Schwartz, Gluck, Reichfeld (Hungary/Slovakia); Adler, Roth, Ader (Galicia); Soltz/Shultz/Zuckerman/Zicherman (Vitebsk, maybe Lithuania)


Re: Kinder Transport #holocaust

Lewis, Megan
 

Hello Hannah,

The Association of Jewish Refugees has case files of the Kindertransport children.  You need to submit a request online to see if a file exists for a specific person.  The online form is at https://www.worldjewishrelief.org/about-us/your-family-history.

Find My Past digitized related records from the British National Archives.  You can search for a name for free at https://search.findmypast.com/search-world-Records/kindertransport but they charge to get copies of the actual documents.

-Megan Lewis, United States Holocaust Memorial Museum


Re: Town name: Szabotits, Szobatit, or something else? #austria-czech #galicia #germany #hungary #slovakia

LarryBassist@...
 

Siggers,
  One extra clue. Here is a scan of a YadVashem entry that spells out Subotica in Hebrew letters, just for reference. This is not for a Bassist, but I thought it might be nice to see Subotica in Hebrew for comparison.
Thanks,
Larry Bassist


Re: TOWN NAME/LOCATION: YAGASTOR #russia #general

Sally Bruckheimer
 

YAGASTOR could be a mispronounced Augustow, pronounced Yagustow, as the initial vowel includes the Y sound. It was a biggish city that is now in NE Poland. It was also the central city of Augustow district until the rebellion of 1860s, when that was divided into Suwalki and Łomza gubernias.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


Re: Kinder Transport #holocaust

Tom Heinersdorff
 

There is data on the Kindertransport - see 
https://ajr.org.uk/kindertransport-survey/
where you can download data on some 1500 of the ca 9500 Kinder. 
Unfortunately Theo David Heineman does not seem to have participated, nor did anyone submit data about him.


Re: Town name: Szabotits, Szobatit, or something else? #austria-czech #galicia #germany #hungary #slovakia

binyaminkerman@...
 

I can't make out the headings but German-like words spelled out in Hebrew sounds more or less like Yiddish, which would have been used anywhere in Jewish Europe. I don't know if this changes any assumptions you made about proximity to Germany or not.
--
Binyamin Kerman
Baltimore MD

Researching:
KERMAN Pinsk 
SPIELER Lodz, Zloczew, Belchatow
SEGALL, SCHWARTZ Piatra Neamt


What to do with Romanian Passports #romania

Isabel Cymerman
 

First have the document conserved by a paper conservator. Then check such organizations as Center for Jewish History, etc.
 
Isabel Cymerman
Southbury


TOWN NAME/LOCATION: YAGASTOR #russia #general

Ian Charles
 

A great-grandmother comes up in the 1911 census as having been born in "Yagastor Russia" (that's the spelling given) - I can't seem to find any reference to this place - any of you clever folk out there have a clue? Thanks in advance

Ian Charles
London, UK


Re: Records for town Nagyszőllős (Vynohradiv, Ukraine) #ukraine

Debbie Bloch
 

Hi Moishe,
 
There is a Sub-Carpathia Genealogy website that might be useful for you - here is the link https://sub-carpathia-genealogy.org/default.htm .
 
I found my great-grandparents marriage record here - my great-grandmother was, incidentally, a Jakobovics from nearby Beregkovesd who later moved to Nagyszollos to raise her family.
 
regards,
Debbie Bloch (Beckman)
Melbourne, Australia


Re: Jewish Artifacts Stolen During Holocaust Taken From Auction House and in US Custody #announcements #holocaust #usa

Andy Monat
 

Thank you for posting that. I looked a bit and found primary sources related to this.

The affidavit from the federal agent who requested the seizure is here: https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/press-release/file/1414576/download
The press release from the Department of Justice is here: https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/united-states-seizes-funeral-scrolls-and-manuscripts-taken-pre-holocaust-jewish

The affidavit lists the towns and details about each of the items, as well as their locations. They note that among the buyers is the National Library of Israel and another buyer in Israel, but that the affidavit "is not submitted in support of any seizure of any of the Manuscripts and Scrolls that may be located outside of the United States at this time".

Here is a description of one of the items:

"PINKAS. SATMAR / SATU MARE, HUNGARY. Pinkas Chevra Kadisha [Community Memorial
Volume]. (Lot 38). Manuscript in Hebrew, square calligraphic and cursive hands on paper.
Members recorded on individual pages in a large Hebrew calligraphic hand. This Pinkas is
fairly typical of the genre of Chevra Kadisha Pinkasim - but with a striking exception: it dates
to after the Holocaust years. Sixteen of the pages list members in large and striking Hebrew."

(I have no personal knowledge of this case, nor any additional information.)

Andy Monat
Massachusetts, USA
 
 
 
 


IAJGS Conference timezone #jgs-iajgs

Julia Trainor
 

Does anyone know which time zone the virtual IAJGS Conference will be held in?    The Philadelphia time zone?   I could not find it on the conference website.

Julia Trainor
Canberra, Australia


Lithuania Records Update #lithuania #JewishGenUpdates #records

Nancy Siegel
 

JewishGen is pleased to report that new records from our colleagues and partners at LitvakSIG are now searchable via the JewishGen Lithuania Collection

Featured in this upload, and accounting for over 21,000 records, is the birth index for the city of Vilnius, 1915-1938. The index includes the full name of the child, the father's name or initial, the year of birth, and a pointer to the full record. The full records are protected under the 100-year privacy rule, but can be obtained from the Lithuania State Historical Archive (LVIA) by a qualifying relative. The births category also includes much shorter birth indexes for Anyksiai and Gargzdai (both 1922-1926) and Ignalino (1929-1939). As well, there are full birth records for Lozdzieje, 1808-1825.


Completing the new
vital records are 156 marriages - a handful each from Joniskelis (1907-1914) and Liskiava (1808-1825), the rest from Lozdzieje (1808-1825); and 762 deaths from Lozdzieje and Miroslawa (both 1808-1825).


In the
revision list category (3260 lines) there are miscellaneous population lists from Lida, Oshmiany, Trakai, and Zarasai districts. The great majority of the records date from approximately 1875.


In the
tax & voter lists category (1749 lines) there are mid-19th century tax lists from Cekiske, Dotnuva, and Vilijampole.

 

In the passports category there are additions to two collections. One is the Kaunas passport envelopes, containing documentation submitted in support of applications for internal passports (3,007 lines). The other is the Obeliai questionnaires, filled out by Jews returning to Lithuania, most from the Russian interior, in the aftermath of WWI (2,000 lines). Both of these collections will have further updates in the future.

Finally, 10,236 lines have been added to the Vilnius household registers category, bringing the total in that collection to more than 40,000 lines. This collection will also have future additions.


Please follow this link to search these records via JewishGen’s Lithuania Collection:
https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Lithuania/

 

All of these records are also searchable via LitvakSIG at

https://www.litvaksig.org/search-ALD/. They will appear in the search results under the categories named above. Note that the database names displayed in the search results may not reflect the contents perfectly. For example, the passports database is called the "Lithuania Internal Passports Database" even though it now includes Obeliai questionnaires and Kaunas passport envelopes, among other things. Likewise, the Revision List database and the Tax/Voter database both encompass a variety of specific record types. Explore and keep an open mind!

 

JewishGen and LitvakSIG are independent organizations, in a strategic partnership to achieve shared goals. To learn more about the work of LitvakSIG, please go to https://www.litvaksig.org/ or contact Russ Maurer, LitvakSIG’s Records Acquisition & Translation Coordinator, at vhrproject@....


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Nancy Siegel
Director of Communications
JewishGen.org
(San Francisco, California)
nsiegel@...


Join JewishGen at the IAJGS Conference August 1 - 5, 2021 #jgs-iajgs #JewishGenUpdates

Nancy Siegel
 

 

The International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS) will hold its 41st International Conference on Jewish Genealogy as a virtual conference August 1 - 5, 2021. 


As a major sponsor of this conference, JewishGen is featuring an outstanding variety of sessions, including the live
JewishGen Annual Meeting on August 3 and the Research Division and Project Meetings.

 

For the schedule of JewishGen meetings, click:

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You must be registered to attend the meetings and other sessions. There are three levels of registration:

 

  • Full Conference registration allows access to all sessions, meetings, and presentations for one fee. 

  • Limited Access permits attendance at all SIG, BOF, Research Division, and Research Group meetings only. The $18 fee will allow you to attend all of these meetings. 

  • Free Access allows attendance at the JewishGen 2021 Annual Meeting on Tuesday, August 3, at 12:30 Eastern (NY) Time. There is also free access to the IAJGS 2021 Annual Meeting, and the IAJGS sponsored JGS Management Seminars. You must be registered to attend these free meetings.

 

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JewishGen.org
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Re: Question on Ron Day Vo photograph #photographs

murphy8@...
 

Thanks so much to the many people who have responded!  So many great ideas! Definitely a take-off "rendezvous" as many of you have suggested. I do think that this is from the 1920's, possibly  at a gathering place for some kind of sport or possibly a food venue given the clothing of the men and, what I see as a game brace of some sort on the woman's hand although could be the car mascot.  I can't tell for sure but it looks like the men may be barefoot.  I have sent off the photo to, "sherlockcohn".
Thanks again to everyone!!
Robin August
murphy8@...

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