Re: New "Search by Face" App #announcements #holocaust #photographs

Shelley Mitchell

An interesting observation when I reused the same picture. I received different results with a maximum of .7.  They were less of a resemblance. Any idea what could have caused that?

Shelley Mitchell, NYC 

Re: Memorial Plaques Database Grows to More Than 205,000 Records. Please help us grow! #JewishGenUpdates

Renee Steinig

In recent years, my synagogue -- nor all that far from yours, Harriet! -- has been involved in two "mergers." In both cases, the synagogues that closed merged into ours and we took over responsibility for their buildings. Handling of their memorial plaques was an important aspect of the merger agreements. We created new space within our building to install the plaques.

So Harriet, if your shul joins another, perhaps its plaques will also find a new home.


Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills NY

On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 1:27 PM fishflash@... via <Fishflash=AOL.COM@...> wrote:
To whom it may concern,

My temple may be closing its doors Oct. 2022. As any temple we have memorial plaques. Before they permanently close, I would assume that they need to be removed. How would it be done & who would like the plaques?

Thank you.
Harriet Ader <fishflash@...>
167 Fifty acre road south 
Smithtown, ny 11787

Re: Steerage Experience #general

David Harrison

I wonder if when Samuel Drach, sailed from Hamburg aboard the Patricia his "Zwischendeck" – or, "between decks.” is not more usually translated into the shipping "tweendeck" which is a specific deck.  This might help others without nautical experience.
David Harrison
Birmingham , England
Searching for various families from Leeuwarden in Friesland (Netherlands and Germany)


Re: Zuruckgefuhrtes Erstregister #translation #germany

Joachim Mugdan

Vicky Furstenberg Ferraresi asked what a "Zurückgeführtes Erstregister" is.
In Germany, civil birth, marriage and death registers, which were introduced in 1876 (in Prussia already in October 1874), were kept in duplicate as long as they were hand-written or typed; today, electronic registers are used. The first copy is known as "Erstregister" (primary register) or "Hauptregister" (main register), the second as "Zweitregister" (secondary register) or "Nebenregister" (subsidiary register). In Berlin, there were numerous register offices, each of which recorded life cycle events in a particular district. (These districts changed from time to time. Today, they coincide with the twelve city districts known as "Bezirk".) While Berlin was divided (1945-1990), it was often the case that one copy was in West Berlin and the other in East Berlin. After the reunification in 1990, registers were returned to the register offices where they belonged. "Zurückgeführtes Erstregister" is such a returned register. Another expression you can come across is "Zum Erstregister erklärtes Zweitregister". That is a secondary register that was declared a primary register because the real primary register was lost. For genealogical purposes, only the distinction between "Erstregister" and "Zweitregister" (as the last word) is of interest. Only the "Erstregister" contains the original signatures of the informant (in birth and death registers) or of bride, groom and witnesses (in marriage registers), and marginal notes often appear only in the "Erstregister". If the database doesn't tell you which type of register you are looking at, the note "Die Übereinstimmung mit dem Hauptregister beglaubigt" at the bottom of the page tells you that it is a "Zweitregister".


Joachim Mugdan

Basel, Switzerland

JGFF Researcher 5749


Re: New "Search by Face" App #announcements #holocaust #photographs

Daniel Patt

Hey Moshe!

Thanks for your feedback, and for the really great points!

I added some notes below:
What match accuracy would be the threshold for a realistic match? I’m seeing a match score of .60-.70 for non-matches. When I worked at a face-matching startup, the threshold we relied on was mid-upper .90
It's a very interesting question. I think it depends a bit on the use case. i.e., I've seen true positives in the .7ish range and maybe even in the high .6ish range... so that's why I thought it would be helpful to show the raw scores for the top 10 closest matches, and let the reviewer decide. I thought that labeling results as matches / non-matches could potentially bias the reviewer. What do you think though? Maybe for below a certain threshold it should just omit those highly likely true negative results?

Can your ML engine can be harnessed to also enhance text OCR? Do you have plans to add training buttons to the UI? 
Re: OCR, that's a great suggestion! There might be significant content missing / not extracted from these images. As a first pass, we could just add any OCR'd text to some kind of searchable field and also annotate the images. Lots of ways this could go though. Were there some specific use cases you had in mind?

Re: training buttons - yes, that is being worked on as part of a broader moderation effort. 

Would it be possible to surface names and locations from USHMM?

Locations would be quite doable, and we're working on the names aspect of this now.

Thanks again for the thought-provoking feedback!


Daniel Patt

Re: Papa/Pupa #hungary

Yitschok Margareten

Reviving an old topic... 

Pupa was not really considered a Chassidic court before the Holocaust, there was a Yeshiva in Papa led by Rabbi Yaakov Yecheskia Grunwald, the students were not necessarily residents of Papa. Rabbi Yaakov Yecheskia was the Rabbi of the Chassidic community in Papa. 

After the Holocaust Rabbi Yosef Grunwald son of Rabbi Yaakov Yecheskia reestablished the Yeshiva and later moved it to New York, and established a full fledged Chassidic community. 

Most of his followers were former students of the Yeshiva in Papa and their offspring. 

Today Pupa is a full fledged Chassidic court led by Rabbi Yaakov Yecheskia Grunwald son of Rabbi Yosef and grandson of the first Rabbi Yaakov Yecheskia. 

You can read about the Pupa Chassidic community on Wikipedia Pupa (Hasidic dynasty)

Yitschok Margareten

Zuruckgefuhrtes Erstregister #translation #germany

I have come across a record for my family from Berlin in the 1911 Zuruckgefuhrtes Erstregister.  Can anyone describe to me what kind of registry this is?

Than you in advance!

Vicky Furstenberg Ferraresi
Belmont, California, USA


FUERSTENBERG (Gdansk, Berlin, Shanghai), PROCHOWNIK (Bydgoszcz, Berlin, Shanghai), QUIATOWSKY (Berlin, Ujest/Ujazd)), BAUM (Gdansk), FREYSTADT (Berlin, Sweden), HEYMANN (Israel, Geneva), SCHULVALTER (Berlin, Brazil), SILBERSTEIN/SILVER (Gdansk, Chicago)

Re: Manhatten Hospital #records #usa

David Oseas

FamilySearch has the NYC death certificate images through 1948 online, but access is restricted to viewing at FHCs.  Once the Family History Centers re-open, use the info from the search that Sherri gave (you need the date & Certificate Number), locate the appropriate roll from here (this is for Manhattan; search the catalog for the other boros): then click on the camera icon to view the images.

David Oseas

JewishGen's JOWBR Project receives IAJGS Outstanding Resource Award #JewishGenUpdates

Avraham Groll

Dear JewishGen Community,

Earlier today, we were honored to learn that JewishGen’s JOWBR project (which stands for the JewishGen Online Worldwide Burial Registry) was the recipient of the IAJGS “Outstanding Resource” Award. JOWBR is a project with a long name, but one that has tremendous impact.

Under the tireless and devoted leadership of Nolan Altman, JOWBR (this very week) has now surpassed 4.1 million records in total. A truly remarkable accomplishment which is a testament to Nolan and his entire team of volunteers who have devoted so much of themselves toward this important project.

JOWBR is not an Ashkenazic database, nor is it a Sephardic database - it is a Jewish database. Our goal is to create one centralized location whereby people can search Jewish burial records from around the world. And to date, we have collected information from more than 9,000 cemeteries in more than 135 countries. 

So what can you do? 

First, use the database! Visit and search through our collection. A complete listing of all cemeteries included in the database can be accessed here: 

Second, share this information with family, friends and leadership of Jewish institutions and schools and synagogues. Let them know that JOWBR is a treasure trove available to them at no cost (as with everything at JewishGen).

And finally, get involved!  Either as an individual or as a member of your Jewish genealogical society, YOU can make an impact. You can join our team of volunteers who are spread around the world, and who are contributing towards this project. To learn more about volunteering, and what’s involved with submitting cemetery information, please visit:

We thank IAJGS for this award, and wish a Mazal Tov to Nolan Altman and his team upon this wonderful recognition of their work.

Avraham Groll

Executive Director

Baltimore cemeteries, John Myerson #usa

Jeffrey Knisbacher

Tried to reply directly to Adam Turner, but even after logging in, could not find a Reply button (from my Thunderbird email system). In any case, John Myerson's death certificate indicates he was buried by the now defunct Lewis Funeral Home. Some of those records are  held by the Jewish Museum of Maryland (formerly the Jewish Historical Society of Maryland). Adam might try contacting Joanna Church of the Museum (cc-ed above) to see if Myerson's record (Dec. 30, 1917) is there. If it is, it might contain the data that he would otherwise get from the tombstone. 

Jeff Knisbacher, Bradenton, FL (formerly Baltimore)

Mazal Tov to Nolan Altman upon receiving the IAJGS Lifetime Achievement Award! #JewishGenUpdates

Avraham Groll

Dear JewishGen Community,

Earlier today, we were thrilled to learn that our colleague and friend, Nolan Altman, has been named the recipient of the 2021 IAJGS Lifetime Achievement Award. 

Assuming leadership from Joyce Field upon her retirement, Nolan has worked tirelessly to build up JOWBR (the JewishGen Online Worldwide Burial Registry), the Holocaust Database, and the Memorial Plaques Database. Because of his efforts, along with many volunteers that he has recruited, overseen, and engaged, JOWBR has now surpassed the 4.1 million mark, the Holocaust Database has now surpassed the 3.6 million mark, and the (newer) Memorial Plaques Database has surpassed 205k records.

Alongside his "usual” JewishGen responsibilities, Nolan has also played a significant role in crafting strategic goals and initiatives, and constantly volunteers his time and effort towards promoting JewishGen to the broader community. And in that context, it should also be noted that Nolan has held significant leadership roles on both the IAJGS and local society levels, including his own JGS of Long Island.

Nolan represents the values of JewishGen so well, and we are proud that he joins many of his current/past JewishGen colleagues as a recipient of this award.

On behalf of the entire JewishGen team, please join me in wishing him a warm Mazal Tov!

Avraham Groll

Executive Director

IAJGS Hungarian Division Presentations #hungary #slovakia #JewishGenUpdates

Vivian Kahn

Please contact me off-list if you'd like handouts from my sessions.

Vivian Kahn
JewishGen Hungary Research Division Director

53,000 New #Subcarpathia Records on JewishGen #subcarpathia

Lara Diamond

JewishGen is pleased to announce that over 53,000 records have been
added to our Sub-Carpathia Vital Records collection, which can be
searched via JewishGen's Hungary and Ukraine databases, as well as
through the Unified Search, for a total of over 100,000 records! The
new records include:

34209 births
5023 marriages
13984 deaths

You can access JewishGen’s Hungary Database by clicking here:

The addition of these records was made possible by the hard work of
many volunteers who translated, transcribed, and validated the
records. We greatly appreciate their dedication.

We can use your financial help, which will go towards paying local
researchers for their time in photographing additional records. You
can donate to our project here:
and selecting the Sub-Carpathia SIG General Fund. Your donation is
tax deductible, if you are a US citizen. Donations of $180 or more
also get you access to indexed records at they are completed, before
they are available on JewishGen.

We also could use the help of those who are fluent in Hungarian and
Czech, to help add additional information to the indexed records.

Answers to some questions that come up after I send these sorts of
Q: Do you have records for my specific town? When do you expect to
get those records?
A: Unfortunately I cannot address each specific town/village. We plan
to get records for all towns in Subcarpathia. Even during the best of
times, it's difficult to predict what towns' records I'll be getting
when. Currently, Ukraine's archives have sporadic closures due to
COVID-19, so I definitely can't predict anything. However, you can
assist in indexing records we already have images for. And even if we
don't have records for your specific town just yet, you likely had
relatives who lived in towns across the region. I personally have
indexed records from towns for which I had no known family connection,
only to be surprised (and delighted) to find cousins.

Q: Can you send me digital images for a record that I found indexed on
A: Stay tuned. How to do that will be announced in the next couple of months.

Lara Diamond
Director of Subcarpathia Research

Re: New "Search by Face" App #announcements #holocaust #photographs

Shelley Mitchell

I tried the site and to my surprise, I found 2 women who looked like my mother. Shelley Mitchell, NYC

ViewMate translation request - Polish #translation

Martin Winstone

I would be very grateful for a translation and/or transcription of the Polish text on a postcard at the following address:
Please respond using the online ViewMate form.
Many thanks in advance for any help.
Best wishes,
Martin Winstone

ViewMate translation request - Russian #translation

Ricki Hollander

I've posted 2 death records in Russian about which I have specific questions (because I cannot read them). The page and questions are viewable on ViewMate at the following address
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
I would really appreciate any help I can get on this in helping me break through a brick wall.

All the best,

Ricki Hollander

Re: Baltimore Cemeteries #usa

Adam Turner

Thanks to those who responded with suggestions - much appreciated!

As an FYI to other researchers: I spoke to someone today at United Hebrew Cemetery's office who was very friendly and helpful, and who promptly emailed me a cemetery map. It appears that she is actually an employee of the monument company W.S. Tegeler, so my assumption is that W.S. Tegeler also manages the cemetery. 

John Myerson is indeed buried in the same section of the cemetery as his wife Pauline (Aitz Chaim/Old Eden), but (I would guess probably because of the fairly early burial date) their database did not have more specific row/plot information for him.

Adam Turner

Re: Prusiner Charitable & Benevolent Association #usa #general

Sherri Bobish


The Center for Jewish History in Manhattan has the following records:
"New York (County) Hall of Records selected incorporation papers

Scope and Content Note This collection consists of microfilm, and bound photocopies of incorporation papers for all Jewish or Jewish-related organizations incorporated in New York City, 1848-1920. The types of organizations included are fraternal societies, political clubs, professional associations, synagogues, landsmanshaften, benevolent organizations, and social clubs. The entire collection has been indexed by name of the organization and, in some cases, by the European town from which the incorporators came, or by general type of organizations.

Each certificate of incorporation includes the name of the organization, the purposes or objects for which it was formed, the principal office or territory of principal operation, the names and addresses of the initial directors or trustees or officers, and the names of the incoporators."

Good luck in your search,

Sherri Bobish

Invitation to JGSSN Zoom meeting: "History and Geography – Tools for Eastern European Research” with Amy Wachs. #events

Ben Kempner

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Southern Nevada (JGSSN) invites you to a Zoom meeting at 1:00 p.m. (Pacific Daylight Time) on Sunday, August 15: "History and Geography – Tools for Eastern European Research” with Amy Wachs.

 To request a Zoom link, please complete this short form: which can also be found on our Meetings webpage:

 Members of JGSSN can attend for free.  Non-members can either pay $5.00 on the Donate page at   Or you can pay $20 for a subscription to the 2021 series of outstanding speakers (see below).  More details can be found at  To become a member and sign up for the 2021 series, go to the Membership page at

Session Description:

Researching our Eastern European ancestry remains challenging in many countries, where missing records may lead to frustrating “brick walls”. This presentation will offer guidance for using the region’s historical events and geography to help fill in gaps and move past brick walls to determine place of ancestry, trace migration, and identify ancestors.

About Amy Wachs:

Amy Wachs has been involved in Jewish genealogy for over 30 years.   She is Past President of the Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland and served on the Board of LitvakSIG, Inc. from 2014 through 2020.  Amy is a retired attorney and university instructor.  She taught law in Latvia as a Fulbright Scholar and in Moldova as a Fulbright Senior Specialist.   Amy often speaks about Eastern Europe and Jewish genealogy topics at conferences and to local audiences.

JGSSN 2021 Lecture Series:

Become a member for $20 and attend any or all of the upcoming lectures -

Ben Kempner

Vice President, JGSSN

Re: Manhatten Hospital #records #usa

Sherri Bobish

Hi Jeff,

FamilySearch has NYC death certs transcribed (not all info from cert) but enough to help you identify if it is the correct person.
I found three men named George Lawrence who passed on in Manhattan during the 1930 through 1940 timeframe.  I did not search all five boro's, but you should do that.

Hope this helps,

Sherri Bobish

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