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Re: KRIEGERS FROM LITHUANIA #lithuania

Sherri Bobish
 

M Kaplan,

Here are the JewishGen pages to read more about your two towns, including the modern and alternate town names:

https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-2617631
Panevėžys [Lith], Ponevezh [Rus], Ponevez [Yid], Poniewież [Pol], Ponewiesch [Ger], Panevēža [Latv], Panevezhis, Panevezio Velzis, Ponavezh, Ponevetz, Ponivez, Ponowitcz, Ponyevez, Pounivez, Punaviz
Region: Kovno

https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-2618376
Ramygala [Lith], Remigole [Yid], Remigola [Rus], Remigoła [Pol], Ramygalos, Remygala, Ramīgala
Region: Kovno

Try searching KRIEGER (use a phonetic or soundex search, as names have variant spellings in the records.)
https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/all/
Do one search with surname and one of your town names, and repeat search with the other town name.

For instance, a very quick search found an 1898 record that KRIGER "Registered in Ramygala; lives in Novosiady since 1875"

Good luck in your search,

Sherri Bobish


Russian Translation Request #russia #translation

aaran1286@...
 

YOAV ARAN

Shalom friends,

I found on JewishGen a transcription of a revision list pertaining to my family (see the attached screenshot). However, it did not make sense: it states that each family member "came from Raseiniai between 1811 and 1816", but that their town was Raseiniai. They came from Raseiniai to Raseiniai? That didn't make sense to me. So I decided to contact the Lithuanian Archives to get the original document, which I also attach. 

If anyone could help, I would greatly appreciate a translation of the Russian that pertains to my Bendet family. It might help resolve the confusion that the transcription caused. 

Thank you all very much, 

Yoav Aran
London


My Great Uncle David’s visit in to Papa in 1904 #hungary

bermanfm
 

According to my great uncle David Lichtenstein’s diary of his visit to Hungary in 1904 he visited his cousin David Weis and other family members in their holiday home just outside Papa in a place called Barsos Gyor. David Weis owned a shoe factory in Raab of which I have a photo.
Also there, was his son in law Joseph Vogl owner of a large estate in the area owning over 2000 sheep , 300-400 oxen, other cattle and horses
They were religious as were other members of the family my great uncle visited in Kecerpecklen, and other places
I have other names and photos if anyone is interested.
Kathryn Berman, Jerusalem

by Kathryn


Re: Zuruckgefuhrtes Erstregister #translation #germany

Stephen Katz
 

To Joachim Mugdan's very helpful explanation, I would only add that these were registers of vital records kept by the relevant "Standesamt" -- essentially, registry office. So one would have to know whether the record in question was of birth, marriage, death, etc., although this would probably be clear from the record in question.

Stephen Katz


Research Rediscovering Yiddish New York #usa #yiddish

Jeff Feinberg
 

My friend Henry Sapoznik, notable historian on Yiddish music and culture- see attached website- is writing a new guidebook Rediscovering Yiddish New York (SUNY Excelsior Press).

He is looking for information concerning which Jewish cemeteries in New York City catered to which particular sub-communities (For example, Mt. Hebron: theater and musicians,

Washington: early theater, writers, Wellwood: Orthodox rabbis, etc.) What are others? Who are notable interees? 

Perhaps our members may have knowledge or leads.


Yiddish and American Culture | Henry Sapoznik

 

Thanks very much in advance 
Jeff Feinberg
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New Look at the Question of Sephardic and Ashkenazic Genetics #sephardic #dna

Adam Cherson
 

Greetings Genetic Researchers,

Some new genetic testing of 6 Ashkenazic males, 5 Ashkenazic females, and 1 Sephardic male permits me to make some preliminary observations on this conversation.

Here is a summary chart showing what I have found:



A) the predominant ancient origin of all groups is between 88.6% and 98% Near Eastern, B) the Sephardi cohort is characterized as having a larger proportion of Coastal Near Eastern genes (Central Levant) and a smaller proportion of Eurasian Steppe genes, C) all groups have roughly the same amount of Mountain Near Eastern genes (Northern Zagros and Transcaucasus Mountains). I would like to include a Sephardic female in this study but as of yet do not have a confirmed, representative sample.

Persons who are interested in studying their family's Sephardic and/or Ashkenazic origins using the technique shown above are welcomed to contact me privately (no genealogical or family tree history required).

 

--
Adam Cherson
Project Manager
Lost Tribes of Israel Project at FTDNA


New Belarus records #belarus

dfeldman@...
 

The JewishGen Belarus Research Division is pleased to announce the uploading of approximately 53,000 records to the JewishGen Belarus database:



  • 2,172 Birth records from Gomel', Kroshin, Lyubcha, Mir, Negnevichi, Orsha, Yeremichi, Zhlobin
  • 2,687 Death records from Kroshin, Lyubcha, Mir, Mogilev, Negnevichi, Yeremichi
  • 1,799 Marriage records from Bobruysk, Lyubcha, Mir, Negnevichi, Orsha
  • 48,301 Revision and draft list records from Bereza, Berezino, Bobruysk, Bogushevichi, Dukora, Igumen / Chervyen, Ivenets, Kholuy / Lipen, Khotimsk, Khotovizh, Klichev, Klimovichi, Kostyukovichi, Kovchitsy Vtoryye, Lapichi, Losha, Lozovitsa, Malech, Martynovka, Miloslavichi, Minsk, Mogil'no, Negin, Novyy Sverzhen', Parichi, Petrovichi, Pogost, Pogost-Zagorodskiy, Pruzhany, Pukhovichi, Rodnya, Selets, Shatsk, Shereshevo, Shumyachi, Slonim, Smilovichi, Smolevichi, Smolevichi, Starobin, Svisloch, Uzda, Uzlyany,Zabychanye

 

For a detailed breakdown by year click here.

 

The records can be searched using the JewishGen Belarus database search engine.

 

Special thanks to the many people who helped transcribe and/or review these records: Igor Apelsinov, Mikhail Bakhrakh, Boris Bayevsky, Arkady Brazin, Vitaly Charny, Rimma Dechter, Tatyana Factorovich, Maria Farber, Val Ginzburg, Zhanna Glazenburg, Vladimir Golynya, Baruch Gorkin, Natasha Grinberg, Ronnie Harpaz, Joshua Kaufman, Misha Korman, Greg Mirsky, Gary Palgon, Frank Proschan, Alexander Rubtsov, Zeev Sharon, Victor Shifrin, Jane Sverzhinsky, Svetlana Tokareva, Lara Tsinman, Dena Whitman, Irina Zabelyshinsky, Ludmila Zapletnyuk and Elena Zborovskaya.

 

And thanks to our district coordinators: Carola Murray-Seegert, Dave Feldman, Dave Fox, Debra Wolraich, Diane Baer, Gayle Justman, Jenni Buch, Jim Yarin, Nancy Holden, Steve Zivin, Steven Rosenberg and to Judy Baston, Ralph Salinger and Rhoda Miller for managing the Lida, Oshmiany, Disna and Sventsyany district data at the Litvak SIG.

 

And finally, thanks to Avraham Groll, Alex Kotovskiy and Gary Sandler at JewishGen and all the people who have donated to JewishGen Belarus Research division projects.

 

The Belarus Research Division Team

 

 

 


Re: For researchers on Bohemian Jewry: looking for family name "Reichler" in Křešín #austria-czech

m.rind@...
 

A further update: In the last sentence of my first post, I said: "I am trying to find the origins of a couple of people who bore that surname [viz., REICHLER], both of whom are recorded as coming from Křešín, and to determine whether they are related, and, if so, how." I have found the answer to my question, the particulars of which are unlikely to be of interest to anyone reading this, but there is one point on which I think it worth reporting on my findings. In present-day Bohemia there is a Křešín in Přibram District and a Křešín in Pelhřimov District. It turns out that some of the records that I was looking at referred to one and others to the other. The REICHLER family of Bohemia originated in Křešín in Přibram (where the name was originally REICHL, according to one source), but one member of it relocated to Křešín in Pelhřimov. Why she did that I don't know, but I can't help entertaining the idea that she did it for the express purpose of confounding genealogical researchers two hundred years later.
--
Miles Rind
Cambridge, Mass.


Re: Looking for help to locate manifest for Ralph Sevinor (Raphail Zweilok) #records #usa

dbpdallas@...
 

For clarification:

The Baltic had three additional landings at NYC in 1904: 28 Oct, 25 Nov, and 23 Dec.

David Passman
Dallas, Texas


Re: Stanislaus, now Ivano Frankivsk, Ukraine #ukraine

blockmk@...
 

I would look at JRI-Poland which allows some different search parameters.   However, the births are outside the window allowed for privacy concerns in Poland.  Marriages are very hit and miss as many  people only had religious service and because of taxes and fees to the gov't would not  do a civil registration.  If you know Halina and Philip's parents names or siblings it possible that you could get back an additional generation or two.  Also please note that you are unlikely to find the name Philip in JRI-Poland as that is the Americanized form of his name.  If you know his Hebrew or Yiddish name use that in your search.  And be prepared for many different forms of the last names. 
Best of luck.  My husbands family is from that area. 
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Katherine Block
Canton, GA
blockmk@...


Re: German Jews who served the Third Reich #germany #general

Karen Franklin
 

I dealt with this topic briefly in my talk at the IAJGS Conference, "Donating your Family Papers? How, When, Where and Why". One of several discoveries in my father's papers was a letter he wrote in the summer of 1945 when, as an American GI, he visited his surviving family in Frankfurt at the end of the war. His cousin Sylvia, who was married to a non-Jew, had gone into hiding. Her sons served in the army, but were transferred to a non-combat division after their Jewish ancestry was discovered. Their aunt and grandmother (my great-grandmother's sister) were murdered.  While I don't know all the details of their story (wish I did), I suspect that their situation may have been more complex than assimilation as a motivation for service.

Karen S. Franklin
Yonkers, New York


Re: New "Search by Face" App #announcements #holocaust #photographs

Shelley Mitchell
 

An interesting observation when I reused the same picture. I received different results with a maximum of .7.  They were less of a resemblance. Any idea what could have caused that?

Shelley Mitchell, NYC 


Re: Memorial Plaques Database Grows to More Than 205,000 Records. Please help us grow! #JewishGenUpdates

Renee Steinig
 

In recent years, my synagogue -- nor all that far from yours, Harriet! -- has been involved in two "mergers." In both cases, the synagogues that closed merged into ours and we took over responsibility for their buildings. Handling of their memorial plaques was an important aspect of the merger agreements. We created new space within our building to install the plaques.

So Harriet, if your shul joins another, perhaps its plaques will also find a new home.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills NY
genmaven@...


On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 1:27 PM fishflash@... via groups.jewishgen.org <Fishflash=AOL.COM@...> wrote:
To whom it may concern,

My temple may be closing its doors Oct. 2022. As any temple we have memorial plaques. Before they permanently close, I would assume that they need to be removed. How would it be done & who would like the plaques?

Thank you.
Harriet Ader <fishflash@...>
167 Fifty acre road south 
Smithtown, ny 11787



Re: Steerage Experience #general

David Harrison
 

I wonder if when Samuel Drach, sailed from Hamburg aboard the Patricia his "Zwischendeck" – or, "between decks.” is not more usually translated into the shipping "tweendeck" which is a specific deck.  This might help others without nautical experience.
David Harrison
Birmingham , England
Searching for various families from Leeuwarden in Friesland (Netherlands and Germany)
 



 
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Re: Zuruckgefuhrtes Erstregister #translation #germany

Joachim Mugdan
 

Vicky Furstenberg Ferraresi asked what a "Zurückgeführtes Erstregister" is.
In Germany, civil birth, marriage and death registers, which were introduced in 1876 (in Prussia already in October 1874), were kept in duplicate as long as they were hand-written or typed; today, electronic registers are used. The first copy is known as "Erstregister" (primary register) or "Hauptregister" (main register), the second as "Zweitregister" (secondary register) or "Nebenregister" (subsidiary register). In Berlin, there were numerous register offices, each of which recorded life cycle events in a particular district. (These districts changed from time to time. Today, they coincide with the twelve city districts known as "Bezirk".) While Berlin was divided (1945-1990), it was often the case that one copy was in West Berlin and the other in East Berlin. After the reunification in 1990, registers were returned to the register offices where they belonged. "Zurückgeführtes Erstregister" is such a returned register. Another expression you can come across is "Zum Erstregister erklärtes Zweitregister". That is a secondary register that was declared a primary register because the real primary register was lost. For genealogical purposes, only the distinction between "Erstregister" and "Zweitregister" (as the last word) is of interest. Only the "Erstregister" contains the original signatures of the informant (in birth and death registers) or of bride, groom and witnesses (in marriage registers), and marginal notes often appear only in the "Erstregister". If the database doesn't tell you which type of register you are looking at, the note "Die Übereinstimmung mit dem Hauptregister beglaubigt" at the bottom of the page tells you that it is a "Zweitregister".

--

Joachim Mugdan

Basel, Switzerland

JGFF Researcher 5749

 


Re: New "Search by Face" App #announcements #holocaust #photographs

Daniel Patt
 

Hey Moshe!

Thanks for your feedback, and for the really great points!

I added some notes below:
What match accuracy would be the threshold for a realistic match? I’m seeing a match score of .60-.70 for non-matches. When I worked at a face-matching startup, the threshold we relied on was mid-upper .90
It's a very interesting question. I think it depends a bit on the use case. i.e., I've seen true positives in the .7ish range and maybe even in the high .6ish range... so that's why I thought it would be helpful to show the raw scores for the top 10 closest matches, and let the reviewer decide. I thought that labeling results as matches / non-matches could potentially bias the reviewer. What do you think though? Maybe for below a certain threshold it should just omit those highly likely true negative results?

Can your ML engine can be harnessed to also enhance text OCR? Do you have plans to add training buttons to the UI? 
Re: OCR, that's a great suggestion! There might be significant content missing / not extracted from these images. As a first pass, we could just add any OCR'd text to some kind of searchable field and also annotate the images. Lots of ways this could go though. Were there some specific use cases you had in mind?

Re: training buttons - yes, that is being worked on as part of a broader moderation effort. 

Would it be possible to surface names and locations from USHMM?

Locations would be quite doable, and we're working on the names aspect of this now.

Thanks again for the thought-provoking feedback!

Best,

Daniel Patt
patt.daniel@...


Re: Papa/Pupa #hungary

Yitschok Margareten
 

Reviving an old topic... 

Pupa was not really considered a Chassidic court before the Holocaust, there was a Yeshiva in Papa led by Rabbi Yaakov Yecheskia Grunwald, the students were not necessarily residents of Papa. Rabbi Yaakov Yecheskia was the Rabbi of the Chassidic community in Papa. 

After the Holocaust Rabbi Yosef Grunwald son of Rabbi Yaakov Yecheskia reestablished the Yeshiva and later moved it to New York, and established a full fledged Chassidic community. 

Most of his followers were former students of the Yeshiva in Papa and their offspring. 

Today Pupa is a full fledged Chassidic court led by Rabbi Yaakov Yecheskia Grunwald son of Rabbi Yosef and grandson of the first Rabbi Yaakov Yecheskia. 

You can read about the Pupa Chassidic community on Wikipedia Pupa (Hasidic dynasty)

--
Yitschok Margareten


Zuruckgefuhrtes Erstregister #translation #germany

viferra@outlook.com
 

I have come across a record for my family from Berlin in the 1911 Zuruckgefuhrtes Erstregister.  Can anyone describe to me what kind of registry this is?

Than you in advance!
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Vicky Furstenberg Ferraresi
Belmont, California, USA

searching:

FUERSTENBERG (Gdansk, Berlin, Shanghai), PROCHOWNIK (Bydgoszcz, Berlin, Shanghai), QUIATOWSKY (Berlin, Ujest/Ujazd)), BAUM (Gdansk), FREYSTADT (Berlin, Sweden), HEYMANN (Israel, Geneva), SCHULVALTER (Berlin, Brazil), SILBERSTEIN/SILVER (Gdansk, Chicago)


Re: Manhatten Hospital #records #usa

David Oseas
 

FamilySearch has the NYC death certificate images through 1948 online, but access is restricted to viewing at FHCs.  Once the Family History Centers re-open, use the info from the search that Sherri gave (you need the date & Certificate Number), locate the appropriate roll from here (this is for Manhattan; search the catalog for the other boros):  https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/753997 then click on the camera icon to view the images.

Regards,
David Oseas


JewishGen's JOWBR Project receives IAJGS Outstanding Resource Award #JewishGenUpdates

Avraham Groll
 

Dear JewishGen Community,


Earlier today, we were honored to learn that JewishGen’s JOWBR project (which stands for the JewishGen Online Worldwide Burial Registry) was the recipient of the IAJGS “Outstanding Resource” Award. JOWBR is a project with a long name, but one that has tremendous impact.


Under the tireless and devoted leadership of Nolan Altman, JOWBR (this very week) has now surpassed 4.1 million records in total. A truly remarkable accomplishment which is a testament to Nolan and his entire team of volunteers who have devoted so much of themselves toward this important project.


JOWBR is not an Ashkenazic database, nor is it a Sephardic database - it is a Jewish database. Our goal is to create one centralized location whereby people can search Jewish burial records from around the world. And to date, we have collected information from more than 9,000 cemeteries in more than 135 countries. 


So what can you do? 


First, use the database! Visit https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/ and search through our collection. A complete listing of all cemeteries included in the database can be accessed here: https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/tree/CemList.htm 


Second, share this information with family, friends and leadership of Jewish institutions and schools and synagogues. Let them know that JOWBR is a treasure trove available to them at no cost (as with everything at JewishGen).


And finally, get involved!  Either as an individual or as a member of your Jewish genealogical society, YOU can make an impact. You can join our team of volunteers who are spread around the world, and who are contributing towards this project. To learn more about volunteering, and what’s involved with submitting cemetery information, please visit: https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Submit.htm


We thank IAJGS for this award, and wish a Mazal Tov to Nolan Altman and his team upon this wonderful recognition of their work.


Avraham Groll

Executive Director

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