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Re: Deutsch family tree on Geni going back to the 14th century #hungary

Alan Cohen
 

Hullo all

People seem amazed that the Deutsch name occurs so often. If you appreciate that most Jews in Poland were Ashkenazi and originally came from Germany as early as the 15th century it is not really surprising that when they had to acquire surnames so many chose Deutsch or its varients because it literally means 'German'.  
As Susan Deutsch Forman has discovered there is little connection between all the Deutsch family groups, although the DNA would probably show many to be 4th, 5th or 6th cousins. After all, we are all related.

Alan Cohen

Virus-free. www.avg.com


Poland's Parliament Passed A Law Preventing Former Polish Property Owners from Regaining Property #announcements #holocaust #poland

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

 

Poland’s Parliament passed a law on August 11th preventing former Polish property owners, including Holocaust survivors and their descendants from regaining property expropriated by the Communist regime. “ The adopted amendment to Poland’s administrative law would prevent property ownership and other administrative decisions from being declared void after 30 years. It affects Jewish and non-Jewish owners who had properties seized in the communist era.  In the case of the former Jewish owners, at stake in many cases are the homes or business of families who were wiped out in the Holocaust and whose properties were later seized by Poland’s communist-era authorities.”

 

When communism fell in 1989, it opened up the possibility for former owners to try to regain lost properties. Some cases have made their way through the courts, but Poland has never passed a comprehensive law that would regulate restituting or compensating seized properties.

 

Poland says the new legislation is a response to fraud and irregularities that have emerged in the restitution process, leading to evictions or giving real estate to property dealers in a process called “wild re-privatization.”

 

The World Jewish Restitution Organization (WJRO) called on President Andrzej Duda to veto the bill and urged the Polish government to work with it to “once and for all settle the issue of private property restitution.”

 

In Israel, Speaker of the Knesset Mickey Levy decided not to re-establish the Israeli-Polish parliamentary friendship group. Speaker Levy said, “The anti-restitution law restricting property claims by victims of the Holocaust is a daylight robbery that desecrates the memory of the Holocaust. Poland’s decision to pass this immoral law harms the friendship and bilateral relations between Israel and Poland.”

 

The United States had been pressuring Poland in hopes of stopping the legislation.  “We are deeply concerned that Poland’s parliament passed legislation today severely restricting the process for Holocaust survivors and their families, as well as other Jewish and non-Jewish property owners, to obtain restitution for property wrongfully confiscated during Poland’s communist era,” U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said in a statement. He urged Duda to not sign the bill into law or to refer it to Poland’s constitutional tribunal. President Duda has 21 days to sign it into law.

 

To read more see:  https://apnews.com/article/europe-middle-east-poland-laws-aff8252937db7f5b8e3653f71e7726bb

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 


Libin and Ohebshalom families in Five Towns #usa #rabbinic

Neil Rosenstein
 

Trying to make contact with the children of Rabbi Yisroel Yaakov Gross
who lives in Miami, father of Sigal who married Eliyahu Linin in
Woodmere and of Dina who married Mordechai Ohelshalom, living in Five
Towns. They are descendants of the Kerestir Chassidic Dynasty.

Neil Rosenstein


Help Decipher Handwriting on Ship Manifest #russia

amitch1066@...
 

Hi All,

Attached is the ship manifest for one of my ggm, who sailed from Minsk, Russia to NYC.  Can anyone interpret the name of her brother in Minsk, the name of her brother in the US, and the address of her brother in the US?

She is on Line 27 - Ester Starobwicz.

Thanks in advance!
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Amy Mitchell


ViewMate translation request: Polish #translation

Wendy Newman
 

Hi All,
I have just posted a birth record in Russian for which I am requesting a translation.  It can be viewed on
ViewMate at the following address:
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page and
Thanks so much for your help.
 
Sincerely,
Wendy Newman
researching Nudelman, Edelstein, Freedman, Greenberg
SF, CA


Grabiner family of Chicago #usa

Trudy Barch
 

Hi everyone,

 

Do you have Abraham, Leah, Skuzea GRABINER, with several other spellings of the name, in your family tree?

They were originally from Russia/Poland area then I found them in the 1900 Chicago census.

The deceased Grabiner family members are buried in many of the cemeteries in the Chicago area.

I am not sure which of my many family branches they are related to or how they are related to me or my husband.

I have done months of genealogical research hoping to find the connection and have not come up with a familiar name.

If this family is part of yours, please contact me.

 

Thank you,   Trudy Barch,    formerly Chicago now Florida

cousintrudy@...

Jansky, Krasnowsky, Shapiro, Barch,

Grayman, Pearlman and Perlman, Rosenbaum, Pelton


Subj: ViewMate translation request - German #translation

Israel Guttman
 

I've posted a vital record in German for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM94788

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

I'm resending the message because I previously wrote polish in error.

Thank you very much.
Israel Guttman


Re: Free digital book on Moldova #latinamerica

jack nathanson
 

Cassio, 

I would like to apologize. Your link led to Amazon.com. Since I live in Canada, I have to order things from Amazon.ca. So I had to go to the Amazon.ca site and then search for "Moldova Impressions" there. I was then able to download the book from there.

Jack Nathanson,
Montreal


Viewmate translation request--RUSSIAN #translation

Joseph Walder
 


I've posted a vital record in Russian for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address:

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM94661
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

I believe the surname of relevance here is Morakhovsky. This record is from 1816 from the town of Boguslav.

Please translate the column headings as well as the entries.

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much.

Joseph Walder
Portland, Oregon, USA


Viewmate translation request--RUSSIAN #translation

Joseph Walder
 

I've posted a vital record in Russian for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address:

I believe the surname of relevance here is Morakhovsky. This record is from 1816 from the town of Boguslav.

Please translate the column headings as well as the entries.

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much.

Joseph Walder
Portland, Oregon, USA


Re: Deutsch family tree on Geni going back to the 14th century #hungary

Ummy74@...
 

Hello to all, I can’t imagine tracing my ancestors back that far. Any time I spot the name Deutsch on the various Geneology sites, I zero in, searching for familiar names & places.  Frankly, my interest is in locating family of my generation. I have a direct line from my father, Arnold Deutsch back to his grandfather.  They all came from today’s Eastern Slovakia.  I have yet to find any relatives living or dead besides what I already know. 

I’m amazed at how common the Deutsch name is. When I was a kid, there were practically no Deutsch's in the phone book or in my school. Anyway, I just thought I’d chime in. If by some miracle, any of us share common ancestors, I’d welcome further communication🙂

@Henry Jay Forman *hello*
Be well,
Susan Deutsch Forman
Saratoga Springs, NY
Researching the following:
Deutsch family of Eastern Slovakia (Michalovice, Humenna)
Perlstein family of Bialystok, Slovakia (Snina, Bascovice)
Friedman family of Slovakia 


Re: Phone number needed in USA #usa

Diane Jacobs
 

Here is what I found:

Cynthia Steffensen b. 8/1957
1000 E. Grand av
Arroyo Grande,CA 93420
805 714 7578
805 928 4772
805 937 3198

Kris Steffensen b. 1/1992
Vickie Lynn Steffensen
Cynthia Steffensen
Kristian Steffensen b. 12/1953

972 Stratford St
Pistol Beach CA 93449
805 773 8707
310 614 2818
805 709 7187

Give all the numbers a try and good
Luck . I used truepeoplesearch.com
Very successfully many times.

Diane Jacobs


On Aug 11, 2021, at 2:39 PM, Peter Bush <plbush1@...> wrote:

I am based in the UK and trying to find phone numbers in Pismo Beach and Nipomo, California for distant relations.

The names are Kristian Steffensen, Kris Steffensen, Cynthia Steffensen and Vickie Steffensen.

If you can help, please can you mail me directly.

Many thanks, Peter Bush, London UK
plbush1@... 

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Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Re: Genealogy Software #general

Max Heffler
 

Reba Solomon wrote:

 

“Legacy software has no equal when it comes to keeping track of all the different first/middle/last names our ancestors used and the way the transcribers read and wrote them.  It has a very upfront and user friendly AKA section with unlimited capacity for each person, including the sources for each.  You can choose to include this  AKA field when you choose a report to create”

 

Brother’s Keeper has had this same functionality for the decades I have been using it. Is does not have the ability to sync with online trees.

 

Max Heffler

Houston, TX


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Max Heffler
Houston, TX
max@...
HEFFLER(Ukraine)/TIRAS(Poland)/WASSEMAN(Lithuania)/MOORE(Poland)/ZLOT(Lithuania)
GORENSTEIN(Ukraine)/FLEISCHMAN(Latvia)/GOLDEN(Lithuania)


Subj: ViewMate translation request - Polish #translation

Israel Guttman
 

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM94788
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.

Israel Guttman 


Re: Genealogy Software #general

Max Heffler
 

Relly Coleman  wrote:

 

“I am using FTM.  Chose it because it is compatible with Ancestry.com.

Complicated to use, endless clicks to add data, can't easily add a 2nd wife, can't correct lineage mistakes, crushes often when using charts/reports, no standard among the different views (for example: right click on some views but not others) .  It has been an exercise in frustration. 

I would not recommend it.

I use FTM for backing up my ancestry tree and merging duplicates, just as I use MyHeritage Family Tree Builder to back up that tree and merge duplicates. My local Brother’s Keeper database and geni.com are the two I can keep up-to-date manually.

 

Max Heffler

Houston, TX

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Max Heffler
Houston, TX
max@...
HEFFLER(Ukraine)/TIRAS(Poland)/WASSEMAN(Lithuania)/MOORE(Poland)/ZLOT(Lithuania)
GORENSTEIN(Ukraine)/FLEISCHMAN(Latvia)/GOLDEN(Lithuania)


Season 8 of Finding Your Roots to Start in January on the Public Broadcasting System #announcements #usa

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

 

 

Finding Your Roots with Henry Louis Gates will premier in January with ten new episodes. It will show in the United States and Canada on Tuesdays at 8/7central. It is best to check with your local Public Broadcasting System for date and time.

 

Among the guests learning about their roots are:

 

Amy Carlson (“Blue Bloods”), Terry Crews (“Brooklyn Nine-Nine”), Tony Danza, Raúl Esparza (“Law & Order: SVU”), Kathryn Hahn (“Wandavision”), Rebecca Hall (Vicky Cristina Barcelona), Nathan Lane, John Leguizamo, Leslie Odom Jr. (Hamilton) and Melissa Villaseñor (“Saturday Night Live”); multi-hyphenates Pamela Adlon, Lena Waithe and Regina King; filmmakers Lee Daniels (“Empire,” Precious) and Damon Lindelof (“Watchmen,” “Lost”); fashion legend André Leon Talley; journalist Erin Burnett; talk show and radio host Mario Lopez; restaurateur David Chang; and activists Brittany Packnett Cunningham and Anita Hill.

 

It will show on the Public Broadcasting System. Best to check your local PBS Station as to the start date and time.

 

To read more see:

https://www.broadwayworld.com/bwwtv/article/FINDING-YOUR-ROOTS-WITH-HENRY-LOUIS-GATES-JR-Season-8-Premieres-in-January-Featuring-Leslie-Odom-Jr-Nathan-Lane-More-20210810

 

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 


Re: Genealogy Software #general

rebasolomon
 

Legacy software has no equal when it comes to keeping track of all the different first/middle/last names our ancestors used and the way the transcribers read and wrote them.  It has a very upfront and user friendly AKA section with unlimited capacity for each person, including the sources for each.  You can choose to include this  AKA field when you choose a report to create, because, after all, what’s the value in putting it in if you can’t print it out?  I save my Legacy data in my Dropbox account, and I don’t use Legacy for photos, but for names-first, middle, last, Hebrew, Yiddish, diminutives, alternative spellings, immigration changes et’c, it’s wonderful.

Best of luck
Reba Solomon


Re: Genealogy Software #general

Relly coleman
 

I am using FTM.  Chose it because it is compatible with Ancestry.com.

Complicated to use, endless clicks to add data, can't easily add a 2nd wife, can't correct lineage mistakes, crushes often when using charts/reports, no standard among the different views (for example: right click on some views but not others) .  It has been an exercise in frustration. 

I would not recommend it.  

Relly Coleman


Phone number needed in USA #usa

Peter Bush
 

I am based in the UK and trying to find phone numbers in Pismo Beach and Nipomo, California for distant relations.

The names are Kristian Steffensen, Kris Steffensen, Cynthia Steffensen and Vickie Steffensen.

If you can help, please can you mail me directly.

Many thanks, Peter Bush, London UK
plbush1@... 


Re: New Look at the Question of Sephardic and Ashkenazic Genetics #sephardic #dna

David Harrison
 


I had always been told and understood that the main splits relate to the Roman Empire in that the Ashkenazi were derived from Jews who had lived in the Western Roman Empire. The Romaniote Jews were from the Easter Roman Empire which continued for about 7 Centuries after the fall of Rome, until The Crusades.  The Sephardi Jews derived from those who had lived outside, but not very far from the original Roman Empire before the fall of Rome and thus included those who arrived in Spain with the Moors and with that connection went North into The low countries and to South America, some of whom were Pirates (being outside the RC church law) but did not include those from India and further Est nor those from Sub-Saharan Africa.
David Harrison
Birmingham, England
Searching in Poland before 1900 for  Herszkocwicz, Wreschinska (or similar)


From: main@... <main@...> on behalf of Adam Cherson <adam.cherson@...>
Sent: 10 August 2021 01:46
To: main@... <main@...>
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] New Look at the Question of Sephardic and Ashkenazic Genetics #dna #sephardic
 
I guess your definition of strict is the one that best explains my approach. However, keep in mind that many Sephardim migrated to North Africa and the Near East and may have lived in those regions for 500 years following their time in Sepharad. Be all of this as it may, the two Sfardim in my study have four Sephardic grandparents (in the strict sense).

To wrap this thread up, I would like to add thatI managed to locate 10 more Sephardic samples from the Eurogenes25 Database and have brought them into the chart:



it seems the categorical distinction is holding up: Sephardim show, on average, more of a coastal Near Eastern affinity and less of a Eurasian Steppe affinity.

This may be even clearer using a scatter diagram like this one:




In this chart the blue squares and the brown square are the ten samples from the EurogenesG25 Sephardic Database (if this image does not reproduce clearly enough here is the image file: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AuwT-4qnkJLBjkhgCdNravabf1JU?e=TrRfn8), The blue and red diamonds are the two Sephardic males from this study. The turquoise diamond is a person who is seeking to know whether he/she has Sephardic ancestry (the person most closely matches the brown square out of all the Sephardic samples, but I believe the brown square is mis-identified as being Sephardic in the G25 database and is likely to be Ashkenazic, or at least mostly Ashkenazic). The hollow circles and diamonds are the male and female Ashkenazim from this study (expect for the two diamonds in the lower left quadrant, who are Mizarahi (Syrian) Jews from this study). The triangles on the left are Early Iron Age Samples from sites in the Levant (Megiddo, Abel Maacah, and Ashkelon). This chart makes clear that the Sephardic samples are clustered closer to the Early Iron Age Samples and that the Ashkenazic samples are clustered to their right (which equates to being closer to the Eurasian Steppe samples from the previous chart)..

Using this system I believe the Sephardic ancestry of any person can be accurately evaluated, based on their placement relative to the two clusters. Persons of strong Sephardic ancestry will be to the left of the center vertical line. Persons of strong Ashkenazic ancestry will be in the midst of the Ashkenazic cluster on the right. Persons of mixed Sephardic-Ashkenazic ancestry will fall into the zone between the two clusters.



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Adam Cherson

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