Re: Help in explaining an inconsistency #usa #records

Elynn Boss

I am guessing that the 'died in Aug 1985' is for her SPOUSE and when she started collecting on his account.  The April 1992 date is most likely her actual death date.

This happened with my cousins grandmother.  Her spouse died in 1965, and she started collecting on his account.  Yet, I was finding the 1965 death date for her WHILE SHE WAS STILL ALIVE.
Elynn Boss
Frisco, Texas, United States
Searching: Abrahams (New York); Gichtin/Gechtin/Gertin (Buffalo, New York and Canada); Dreishpoon (New York, Russia, France), Danovitch/Daynes (New York, Massachusetts, Poland/Russia) and associated branches.

Re: Hebrew translation on gravestone #translation



Shindel daughter of Chaim Baruch

Passed 21 Sh’vat 5711


Malka Chosnek




Re: Help in explaining an inconsistency #usa #records

Michele Lock

I would also try to get the death certificate, though sometimes you have to give the state or local authorities the date of death, which in this case could be one or the other. Also, if you are not a direct descendent of this woman, there may be difficulties getting the certificate, but it is worth trying.

I would think that the California index is the correct one, since it actually has a set date, as opposed to only the month for the Social Sec. entry.  The CA death index would have been based on her death certificate sent into the state vital records office. The Social Security record would have been based on when this US federal agency was informed of her death. When my father passed away in 2009, it was the funeral director who notified Social Security. But he also warned us that sometimes the clerks there don't properly record a death, and that if we kept getting my father's monthly payment checks, then we needed to notify the agency again. 

There's also trying to find her gravestone, but I imagine you have already done that.
Michele Lock

Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock and Kalon/Kolon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai, Lithuania
Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock in Plunge/Telsiai in Lithuania
Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman in Dotnuva, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine/Lev/Lew in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus

Re: Hebrew translation on gravestone #translation

Diane Jacobs

Sheindel bat Khaia Baruch

Hopes this helps.
Diane Jacobs

On Aug 21, 2021, at 12:43 PM, dbpdallas via <> wrote:


I would greatly appreciate translation assistance for the Hebrew inscription on Jennie Goldman's monument attached here. Many thanks in advance!

Kind regards,
David Passman
Dallas, Texas

Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey

ViewMate translation request - Polish #translation



I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...





Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much.


Alise Kermisch

Denver, CO


Hebrew translation on gravestone #translation



I would greatly appreciate translation assistance for the Hebrew inscription on Jennie Goldman's monument attached here. Many thanks in advance!

Kind regards,
David Passman
Dallas, Texas

Re: Seeking genealogists or genealogy help in Hungary #hungary #holocaust #records


I also recommend Karesz Vandor.
But I am curious about what you are referring to when you say "the infamous death march of Hungarian Jews in WWII." There were many death marches that included Hungarian Jews (eg. in the fall of 1944, well after the countryside had been emptied of Jews, large numbers of the remaining Jews of Budapest were marched to Austria (to Mauthausen) and various other camps from there; or when Auschwitz was being emptied before the arrival of the Soviet army, etc. (not to mention other death marches between concentration and death camps in Germany in the last few months of the war...) 
Judy Young
Ottawa, Canada

Re: What Happened to Leopold Hoschander? A Mystery #poland


AJ - 

You wrote, "The SSDI records his death in Moroni, Comoros in November 1971."  The SSDI does not list the place of death.

Looking at the SSDI on, I see that his last residence is given as Moroni, Comoros. However, looking at the SSDI on, it gives his residence place as Europe.

Of course, this all only adds to the confusion over where he died.
Miriam Alexander Baker

Re: Help in explaining an inconsistency #usa #records

Robert Hanna

I would send for the death certificate.

Robert Hanna


Looking to trace family in Meppel #records

Lynn Weisberg

Someone put on that SALOMON MORGENSTERN was born in 1805 in Meppel, Drenthe, Netherlands and his son ISRAEL ( Yisrael Tzvi ) was born there in 1826. There are no records online documenting that they lived there before immigrating to Ukraine and then Austria. I need proof please or possibly a Dutch researcher.
Lynn Weisberg
  Baltimore, Maryland
Lynn Weisberg

Re: Help in explaining an inconsistency #usa #records

Relly coleman

How sure are you of the origin of the info? Could one of these come from a ‘tree’? 
can you find an obituary for her? It might help pin the correct date for you.
relly coleman

Romanian Transcription Projects - Bucharest and Galati - Looking for Volunteers! (Romanian or Hebrew) #romania #announcements

Michael Moritz

We are looking for more volunteers to help transcribe records from Romania, including the following new record sets:
  • Bucharest marriage records (Romanian)
  • Bucharest cemetery records (Romanian and Hebrew) [you don't need to know Romanian to transcribe the Hebrew portions; they are separate]
  • Galati marriage records (Romanian)
If you are interested please contact Rahel Eynan, at reynan@....

Michael Moritz
Director, Romania Research Division

Re: Translation from Polish of photo inscription #translation

Frank Szmulowicz

February 17, 1935
na pamiątkę
?? Józiek.
To Ruta
as a souvenir (as a remembrance of ???)
Joseph (diminiutive)
Perhaps additional context can supply a clue for the missing word, 

Frank Szmulowicz

Seeking Information about an Italian Rabbi Mordechai Tusk or Tosk #slovakia

Dave Baron

Are you familiar with an Italian born Rabbi who ended up becoming the Rav of Pressburg, today Bratislava, Slovakia. His name is Rabbi Mordechai Tusk or Tosk?
Any information or resources is greatly appreciated, thank you!
Enclosed are two sources about this Rabbi with conflicting information, mainly dates.  One is a family document referencing him in our lineage tree and the second is an auction document showing different dates.
It’s unclear which of these periods is true? 
Rabbi Tusk was possibly born circa 1723 and died 1816 (at age ‎~93‏) or in another source he was supposedly born in 1744 and passed away in 1837, where the Chatam Sofer eulogized him. 
Input greatly appreciated, thank you!
David Baron
Baltimore, Maryland

Re: What Happened to Leopold Hoschander? A Mystery #poland

EdrieAnne Broughton

The only obit I found mentioning Leopold Horschander was one for his sister, Sali Friedlander in 1965.  Sali died in Appleton, Wisconsin and mentioned that her brother, Leopold lived in Austria.  Often listings for obits are surviving relatives.  A simple search for Leopold places him back and forth between the US and Europe in naturalization records.            
EdrieAnne Broughton, Vacaville, California

Hornungs of Oswiciem. #poland #general


I am at a brickwall .  Does anyone know if Samuel Hornung born 1911, is related to Samuel Hornung born 1912 ?
The father of Samuel 1911 is Jozef Markis.  , grandfather is Mordachai.    The wife of Samuel 1911 was Amalia Nuehoff.
 The father of Samuel 1912 is Isidor , grandfather unknown. The wife of Samuel 1912 was Roza Rendell.
thank you for any assistance.


Josef Hornung

Fritz Grünberg Papers #holocaust


This index includes 3,812 names. The collection documents the Holocaust-era experiences of Fritz Grünberg, including his involvement with the Jewish Council and the Contact Afdeling (Contact Division) of the Westerbork transit camp.  Of particular interest are prisoner and deportation lists from Westerbork. You can request and immediately receive digital copies of the original documents in your emails.  Search: #Holocaust
Peter Lande   Washington, D.C.

Re: Seeking genealogists or genealogy help in Hungary #hungary #holocaust #records

Larry Briggs

I second the recommendation for Karesz Vandor. He does excellent work and was very responsive. 
Larry Briggs

family trees - who copied my information #general

jeremy frankel

Dear Genners,

Elise Cundiff included in her post with respect to that "you can have your tree be private entirely - but people will be able to see that you have one, just not be able to see what you have on it.”

This is not entirely true. To my knowledge, in Ancestry there are three “levels” of privacy. The first level is to have the tree totally public. The second level is, as Elise mentioned, checked (ticked) as private; others can see there is a tree but cannot see it, but can communicate with the tree-owner. A third level is to check/tick another box so that the tree won’t even be found in a search by others. It will never show up. There might be a number of reasons why a researcher would want this level of privacy.

Jeremy G Frankel
ex-Edgware, Middlesex, England
now Sacramento, California, USA

Searching for:
FRANKEL/FRENKEL/FRENKIEL: Gombin, Poland; London, England
GOLDRATH/GOLD: Praszka, Poland; London, England
KOENIGSBERG: Vilkaviskis, Lithuania; London, England; NY, USA
LEVY (later LEADER): Kalisz, Poland; London, England
PINKUS, Poland; London, England
PRINCZ/PRINCE: Krakow, Poland; London, England; NY, USA

Re: KT teenagers placed North in Thirlby England 1939-40 #unitedkingdom

Barrie Callender

Thirlby Grange is a farm just outside a small village called Thirlby in North Yorkshire. It is near Thirsk, which has a Racecourse I use to go to with my Dad. Thirsk is the setting for a series of books about a vet too.  It was made into a TV drama. 

Put the following coordinates in Google maps and you'll get to Thirlby Grange.
54.2504062, -1.2590668

I searched for the place and it came up with this little web site which mentions Thirlby Grange. It might be worth contacting the authors for more info.

It is in a lovely part of England IMHO.

Good luck
Barrie Callender
Wokingham, Berkshire, England

4321 - 4340 of 665496