Seeking Information about an Italian Rabbi Mordechai Tusk or Tosk #slovakia

Dave Baron <dmbaron@...>

Are you familiar with an Italian born Rabbi who ended up becoming the Rav of Pressburg, today Bratislava, Slovakia. His name is Rabbi Mordechai Tusk or Tosk?
Any information or resources is greatly appreciated, thank you!
Enclosed are two sources about this Rabbi with conflicting information, mainly dates.  One is a family document referencing him in our lineage tree and the second is an auction document showing different dates.
It’s unclear which of these periods is true? 
Rabbi Tusk was possibly born circa 1723 and died 1816 (at age ‎~93‏) or in another source he was supposedly born in 1744 and passed away in 1837, where the Chatam Sofer eulogized him. 
Input greatly appreciated, thank you!
David Baron
Baltimore, Maryland

Re: What Happened to Leopold Hoschander? A Mystery #poland

EdrieAnne Broughton

The only obit I found mentioning Leopold Horschander was one for his sister, Sali Friedlander in 1965.  Sali died in Appleton, Wisconsin and mentioned that her brother, Leopold lived in Austria.  Often listings for obits are surviving relatives.  A simple search for Leopold places him back and forth between the US and Europe in naturalization records.            
EdrieAnne Broughton, Vacaville, California

Hornungs of Oswiciem. #poland #general

joe hornung

I am at a brickwall .  Does anyone know if Samuel Hornung born 1911, is related to Samuel Hornung born 1912 ?
The father of Samuel 1911 is Jozef Markis.  , grandfather is Mordachai.    The wife of Samuel 1911 was Amalia Nuehoff.
 The father of Samuel 1912 is Isidor , grandfather unknown. The wife of Samuel 1912 was Roza Rendell.
thank you for any assistance.


Josef Hornung

Fritz Grünberg Papers #holocaust


This index includes 3,812 names. The collection documents the Holocaust-era experiences of Fritz Grünberg, including his involvement with the Jewish Council and the Contact Afdeling (Contact Division) of the Westerbork transit camp.  Of particular interest are prisoner and deportation lists from Westerbork. You can request and immediately receive digital copies of the original documents in your emails.  Search: #Holocaust
Peter Lande   Washington, D.C.

Re: Seeking genealogists or genealogy help in Hungary #hungary #holocaust #records

Larry Briggs

I second the recommendation for Karesz Vandor. He does excellent work and was very responsive. 
Larry Briggs

family trees - who copied my information #general

jeremy frankel

Dear Genners,

Elise Cundiff included in her post with respect to that "you can have your tree be private entirely - but people will be able to see that you have one, just not be able to see what you have on it.”

This is not entirely true. To my knowledge, in Ancestry there are three “levels” of privacy. The first level is to have the tree totally public. The second level is, as Elise mentioned, checked (ticked) as private; others can see there is a tree but cannot see it, but can communicate with the tree-owner. A third level is to check/tick another box so that the tree won’t even be found in a search by others. It will never show up. There might be a number of reasons why a researcher would want this level of privacy.

Jeremy G Frankel
ex-Edgware, Middlesex, England
now Sacramento, California, USA

Searching for:
FRANKEL/FRENKEL/FRENKIEL: Gombin, Poland; London, England
GOLDRATH/GOLD: Praszka, Poland; London, England
KOENIGSBERG: Vilkaviskis, Lithuania; London, England; NY, USA
LEVY (later LEADER): Kalisz, Poland; London, England
PINKUS, Poland; London, England
PRINCZ/PRINCE: Krakow, Poland; London, England; NY, USA

Re: KT teenagers placed North in Thirlby England 1939-40 #unitedkingdom

Barrie Callender

Thirlby Grange is a farm just outside a small village called Thirlby in North Yorkshire. It is near Thirsk, which has a Racecourse I use to go to with my Dad. Thirsk is the setting for a series of books about a vet too.  It was made into a TV drama. 

Put the following coordinates in Google maps and you'll get to Thirlby Grange.
54.2504062, -1.2590668

I searched for the place and it came up with this little web site which mentions Thirlby Grange. It might be worth contacting the authors for more info.

It is in a lovely part of England IMHO.

Good luck
Barrie Callender
Wokingham, Berkshire, England

Re: What Happened to Leopold Hoschander? A Mystery #poland


On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 06:58 AM, AJ wrote:
Hello AJ - Ancestry has an obituary for him under but I am not a paid member. You may want to join Tracing the Tribe on Facebook and ask someone there.

Good luck

Shosh Eizenshtein, Toronto

Free live webinar Sunday, Aug. 29, 2021, from JGS of Illinois with Sallyann Amdur Sack-Pikus #announcements #jgs-iajgs

Martin Fischer

Jewish family surnames to be focus of JGS of Illinois talk on Aug. 29, 2021: 

“What the Genealogist Needs to Know About Jewish Family Names” will be the webinar topic of Sallyann Amdur Sack-Pikus, co-owner, founder and editor of AVOTAYNU, the International Review of Jewish Genealogy, at 2 p.m. CDT, Sunday, Aug. 29, 2021, for the virtual meeting of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Illinois. Her live streaming presentation, which is free and open to the public, will be preceded by a separate JGSI members-only genealogy question-and-answer discussion time at 1 p.m. 

To register for this free event, go to After you register, you will be sent a link to join the meeting. This webinar will be recorded so that JGSI’s paid members who are unable to view it live will be able to view the recording later.  

From the genealogical perspective, Jewish family names are anything but simple. In this talk, we will hear how, why and when Jews acquired family names; what kinds of names they adopted; some special aspects of rabbinical names; techniques devised to avoid being identified; spelling considerations; Soundex; the variable effects of emigration; expert sources; and a few words about how to locate maiden names and married names of women. 

Dr. Sallyann Amdur Sack-Pikus, Ph.D., has been at the forefront of the development of organized Jewish genealogy since its inception. She is co-owner, founder and editor of AVOTAYNU, the International Review of Jewish Genealogy; co-founder and chairman of the board of the International Institute for Jewish Genealogy associated with the Israel National Library in Jerusalem; past president of IAJGS—the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies—and recipient of its Lifetime Achievement Award. She was the chair or co-chair of seven IAJGS conferences. 

Sack is also president of the Avotaynu Foundation, a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization dedicated to the promotion of Jewish genealogy; and the founding president of the Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington. She has written or co-authored seven reference books on Jewish genealogy, and received the Jewish Library Association “Body of Work” award. She has served on advisory boards at the U.S. National Archives and at Beth Hatefutsoth, the Museum of the Jewish People, in Tel Aviv, Israel, and has lectured and taught how-to-get-started courses in genealogy in countries across the world as well as in the U.S.  

Sack currently serves on the Executive Committee of the IAJGS Documentation of Jewish Records Worldwide (DoJR) Project. She recently organized the Upper Valley Jewish Genealogy Society of New Hampshire and Vermont.   

Sack is a graduate of Radcliffe College and Harvard University, and earned a Ph.D. in clinical psychology at the George Washington University.  

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Illinois is a non-profit organization dedicated to helping members collect, preserve, and perpetuate the records and history of their ancestors. JGSI is a resource for the worldwide Jewish community to research their Chicago-area roots. The JGSI motto is “Members Helping Members Since 1981.” The group has more than 300 members and is affiliated with the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies

JGSI members have access to useful and informative online family history research resources, including a members’ forum, more than 65 video recordings of past speakers’ presentations, monthly JGSI E-News, quarterly Morasha JGSI newsletter, and much more. Members as well as non-members can look for their ancestors on the free searchable JGSI Jewish Chicago Database

For more information about JGSI, see or phone 312-666-0100. 

Martin Fischer
Vice President-Publicity
Jewish Genealogical Society of Illinois

JGSI website:

Amazing Students Translate Yizkor Book -- ADDITIONAL UNIVERSITY SOUGHT FOR PROGRAM #yizkorbooks #translation

Laurence Broun

As a Yizkor Book Project Coordinator, before committing the Yizkor Book of Mizoch to the typical process of hiring professional translators, I reached out to the Hebrew language program at George Washington University to explore the possibility of working with students to tackle translation of these emotion-charged essays. The results has been nothing less than amazing. Since then, the Yiddish-language program at the University of Texas at Austin has also joined the effort. I seek to expand this program by including additional university programs and would appreciate any assistance you might provide if you have contacts with university-level Hebrew-language programs.


The enthusiasm I have found from the student translators is truly inspiring. It is  amazing to see their passion to delve into this material and gain understanding of daily life, survival and the demise of our lost communities. With their translations, the students reach back to understand their own roots as well as preserve this history of the shtetl for the English-speaking world. Guided by their professors, they have added footnotes and references to explain references that would not be understood by most modern readers, preserving and giving context the materials.


The greatest value of this approach, I am convinced, is passing the torch for preservation of our history and Shoah remembrance to the next generation. As such, I seek to expand the program by soliciting the participation of addition universities in the effort. The students work on translations during the academic year, typically for credit in an independent study course. In addition, we have established a summer intern program for students who have successfully completed translations.


If you are affiliated with or can reach out to university-level Hebrew or Yiddish language program to expand this program, I would appreciate hearing from you. Student translations to date are posted at . 

Larry (Itzik Leib) Broun
Washington, DC | USA
e-mail: Laurencebroun@...

Re: Marriage in London #unitedkingdom #general

Sherri Bobish


You can search for marriages in England at:

Good luck in your search,

Sherri Bobish

Re: family trees - who copied my information #general

Ellen Barnett Cleary

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 06:58 AM, Elise Cundiff wrote:

Some tree platforms, like Geni, FTJP, FamilySearch, and several others, are explicitly designed to be not just visible to all, but "collaborative" so that anyone can build on and add to your tree

Unless something has changed that I am aware of, I don't think FTJP trees are collaborative.

Ellen Barnett Cleary
San Francisco CA

Re: ViewMate translation request - Old German Kurrent, #translation


The link provided does not take me to your image.

Please provide the VM number.
Fredel Fruhman
Brooklyn, New York, USA

Translation from Polish of photo inscription #translation

Relly coleman

Would appreciate help translating the inscription from the back of a photo taken Feb 17, 1935 in Wloclawek. The photo is of two couples one of the people is my father. Thanks.

Relly Coleman

Re: Seeking genealogists or genealogy help in Hungary #hungary #holocaust #records


The best Hungarian researcher is Karesz Vandor (Vandor is his last name).  He speaks English, Hungarian, Hebrew. He is very familiar with Hungarian history, particularly the Holocaust.  You can reach him at HungarianRoots: info@...
Debbie Long
Triangle JGS (Chapel Hill, Durham, Raleigh/ NC)
Always looking for GALAS and DOBRZYNSKI of Lodz, Poland; 
WEISZ and MUNK of Ujpest, Hungary;
TREIBER and KRAEMER of Dobromyl, Poland/Ukraine

This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #yizkorbooks #poland

Bruce Drake

The Sabbath was such a central part of Jewish life in the shtetls that it is hardly surprising that so many Yizkor books have chapters about how it was celebrated in their towns. Preparation began days in advance: the shopping for the staples of the Sabbath meals, housewives bringing their cholent to the baker to keep it warm for the next morning, or buying a newspaper to have something to read on Saturday. Then there were the rituals of the holy day and the merriness that followed.
One thing that stands out in all these accounts, in addition to the sanctity of the day, is how much the Sabbath was a respite from the rigors of life. Such is the case in “Sabbath in Mezritsh” from the Yizkor book of Mezritsh (Miedzyrzec Podalsky) in Poland:
“One could already notice, in the early evening on Lubliner Street, that the Sabbath was slipping away. Young and old strolled along the street, saying to each other, ‘Tomorrow, Sunday, the toil of the week begins again.’”

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, MD

Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel

Help in explaining an inconsistency #usa #records


Hallo All, 

I was wondering if someone could explain this inconsistency,. 

According to California death index (image attached) 
Clara Sacheim Stahl born Dec 29, 1889  ssn  565-38-5350 died in LA on April 2, 1992.

According to social security death index (attached image) 
Clara Stahl born Dec 29, 1889 ssn 565-38-5350   died in Aug 1985.

i suppose that the California death index is the correct one but is there an explanation for the difference? 

Giannis Daropoulos 


What Happened to Leopold Hoschander? A Mystery #poland

AJ <the_ravaj@...>

Can anybody help me figure out what happened to my great-uncle Leopold Hoschander?

According to his US Naturalisation application, he was born in Poland on 22.04.1885 in Huta Baranowa (not far from Lublin). He and his wife Auguste emigrated to the US in February 1939. I think that some years later they moved to Switzerland, mainly because Auguste died in Bern in 1983.

The SSDI records his death in Moroni, Comoros in November 1971. This is the mystery - especially because we have no idea of where he was buried - what was an elderly, retired, Jewish salesman doing in the Comoros Islands? Did he die at sea, and this was the nearest land? It seems unlikely that he was on holiday there, although I suppose it's possible. I just don't know where to start.

Any suggestions regarding how to find his burial place are gratefully received. And also any other ideas re how to follow up on this.

With thanks
AJ Friedlander.

you are cordially invited over to my blog

Re: family trees - who copied my information #general

Elise Cundiff

Once you post any data on a public tree, on any platform - you have made it available to anyone and everyone.  You have given it - and so, you no longer "own" it, and it isn't being stolen from you, even if the person using it is getting it wrong.  Especially if your data comes from public records/documents in the first place.
That is what the user agreements of sites like Ancestry are telling you.  You are posting data that will now be open to all to use. You agree to this when you choose to use the site.
You can keep some individuals private, by never listing a date of death.  Or, you can have your tree be private entirely - but people will be able to see that you have one, just not be able to see what you have on it.
Some tree platforms, like Geni, FTJP, FamilySearch, and several others, are explicitly designed to be not just visible to all, but "collaborative" so that anyone can build on and add to your tree - in other words, it is no longer just "your" tree, and changes that perhaps you won't like could be made to it.  You need to be aware of this before choosing to use those sites!
IMO, my ancestors don't belong to just me - they have many many relatives, many that I am not aware of.  If one finds my information useful, they are welcome to it.
PS I have twice been contacted by people who strongly insisted that I had wrong information - but in fact, they were the ones who had made the "same name" error, and never provided me with any proof of their assertions nor corrected their trees.   I also would have never discovered, or made contact with, my grandfather's family if I hadn't had my public tree.

Elise Cundiff  (Ohio)
Searching Zieve (Lithuania), Markus (Lithuania or Poland) 

What’s New at JewishGen? #JewishGenUpdates

Nancy Siegel

What’s new at JewishGen? Don’t miss the August issue of JewishGen News.

Stay informed via the announcements, reports, and project updates. Read about the new records added to various JewishGen collections, the gulf that grew between the young and the old in Mogilev, the new JewishGen Press, the Jeff Malka Sephardic Collection, the candlesticks and candelabras our ancestors carted over long distances to foreign countries, far away from their ancestral shtetls, and much more.


Nancy Siegel
Director of Communications
(San Francisco, California)

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