Re: Why were so many children labeled "illegitimate" in Birth Registration (Metrical) Books of Subcarpathia - late 1800s #hungary


I see that Munkacs was within Austria-Hungary. Were the Familiant laws in effect there? These restricted the legal permissions to marry among Jews in Bohemia, Moravia, and Austrian Silesia. In some locales one is continually finding, in the records of the 18th and early 19th centuries, Jewish births recorded with only the mother named and the birth marked "unehelich," though in some cases there is a note naming the father and recording that he acknowledged the child as his own. After the Familiant laws were repealed in 1849, many Jewish children were retroactively declared legitimate and allowed to assume their fathers' surname.
Miles Rind
Cambridge, Mass.

Re: Need headstone translation for granduncle Noah Jacob Jablow, and Minnie Jablow- #belarus #translation

Dubin, David M. MD

I’m sorry. 20 Adar is correct (it matches the secular date of March 10). The Hebrew is indistinct. 

david dubin
teaneck nj 

Re: Why were so many children labeled "illegitimate" in Birth Registration (Metrical) Books of Subcarpathia - late 1800s #hungary

Mark Resnicoff

Hi Susan,

In addition to what Shimy said, it cost money to register births, marriages and deaths in the local government offices and not all families had the funds to do so at the time of the event. I have seen several records from the Subcarpathia area in which the birth was originally considered illegitimate because the parents were not "legally" married, but notes were added to the birth records years later indicating the parents were "officially" married sometime after the birth, therefore the birth was now considered legitimate.

Best Regards,

Mark Resnicoff

Re: Need headstone translation for granduncle Noah Jacob Jablow, and Minnie Jablow- #belarus #translation

David Barrett

Dale shalom 
The gist of the Hebrew : 
Our dear father who pursued all in  that which he did especially Torah and mitzvot [ commandments]
died 2nd  Nisan 5075 = 16/3/1915 [after sunset]
MINA daughter of rav SHABTAI OZER
DIED ON 20TH ADAR 5680 = 10/3/1920
All the best 
David Barrett

Re: Need headstone translation for granduncle Noah Jacob Jablow, and Minnie Jablow- #belarus #translation

Dubin, David M. MD

here lies (abbreviated)
our dear father, good and did good for all
occupied in Torah and mitzvas, and esteemed above all
Our teacher and rabbi (abbreviated, and not necessarily literally true) Noah Jakob son of Elchanan 
died 2 Nisan (5)675
(abbreviation) may his soul be bound in the bonds of (everlasting) life 

Here lies (abbreviated)
our esteemed mother
 And beloved to us all, Ms
daughter of Rabbi (literally true) Mr Shabtai Ozer (abbreviated:) of blessed memory
died 12 Adar (5)680
may her soul…

david dubin
teaneck nj 

Research Service Offered by the Museum of the History of Polish Jews (POLIN) #poland


I received an e-mail from the POLIN Museum regarding a new genealogical research service they’re offering;  the URL describing it is here:
The different packages on offer are for researching ancestors of a single individual.  As one might expect, the more expensive the package, the more extensive the search in terms of sources, results and inclusion of what they refer to as “collateral” relatives — i.e. siblings of direct ancestors.
I have no experience as yet with a directed search for ancestors by a provider in Eastern Europe, so I don’t know how POLIN’s prices compare with other, individual researchers who are “on the ground”.
Joel Novis
Longmeadow, MA
Researching NOVITSKIY (Kyiv/Vasil’kiv, Ukraine), OLSZTAJN (Łowicz/Łódź/Stryków/Zgierz, Poland), GEYMAN/HYMAN (Ashmyany, Belarus), POTASHNIK/POTASNIK (country of origin unknown)

Re: Where is Lakma, Hungary? #hungary

G. C. Kalman

Offering genealogy research service on a contingency basis #general

Yehuda Rubin

I am a non professional genealogist looking to expand my research base. I have researched my own family since 2016, and now feel ready to take this commercially (part time). 

Records of use to me in the past have been American documents such as naturalization records and census data (for the immigrant and older generations), as well as European vital records. 

I have a reading knowledge of German and Polish, as well as a basic knowledge of Yiddish and Hebrew, necessary to track Jewish vital records throughout the centuries.

A significant amount of my research is conducted using online resources. When the Internet is insufficient for finding records and documents, I visit libraries and archives.

I am offering research services on a flat fee contingency basis (based on the size of the tree you want), as an effort to gain a reputation and work experience. When work involves travel to libraries and archives, that will need to be remunerated regardless of result; however, work without a substantial result will be free. 

My offline experience involves using the New York Public Library and the Center for Jewish History, although I am willing to do research in other institutions in Philadelphia, Washington DC, and Boston.

I can be reached with any questions at yehudazevrubin@.... I can give a reference, if necessary. Thank you for considering me!

Yehuda Rubin
Lakewood, NJ

JGASGP Meeting #announcements #dna

Marilyn Golden

Date:  Sunday, August 29th

  1:00 PM check in, chat, and schmooze (Optional) Official program starts promptly at 1:30

Speaker: Michael Tobias, Recipient of IAJGS Lifetime Achievement Award 


Michael is a co-founder and Board Member of JRI–Poland; Vice President of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain; Honorary Research Fellow – Genealogical Studies, University of Strathclyde; Jewish Research Specialist (Q & A) for ‘Who Do You Think You Are?’ Magazine; Former Vice President, Programming of JewishGen, Inc. He was Database matching consultant to the International Commission on Holocaust Era Insurance Claims. Michael was awarded the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies Lifetime Achievement award in Washington in 2011. He was awarded the OBE for services to the Jewish Community in the Queen’s New Year Honours List 2021.


Topic: Ich bin ein Berliner: JRI-Poland and DNA Matches Unite 5 Half-siblings from 4 Different Mothers


During the Covid19 lockdown in the UK in July 2020 a woman asked for help in identifying her newly discovered (via DNA) Jewish birth-father. She could not imagine the story about to unfold. In the next three weeks, following the DNA trail and building family trees for each of 8 significant DNA hits on 3 different websites, her ties to four half-siblings were identified, all sharing the same father but with four different mothers. To be certain of the connections between the DNA matches and the half-siblings, it was necessary to use the JRI-Poland database to create family trees going back to the late 1700s. In the process the accuracy of the DNA estimated family relationships could be compared with the true family relationships and the impact of any endogamy could be analyzed.

Please see our website for membership information. This meeting is for members only.
Please send me an email prior to Sunday if you sent in your dues. I will then send out the link.
Marilyn Mazer Golden, Membership VP
Jewish Genealogical and Archival Society of Greater Philadelphia
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

Re: Litvak SIG Discussion Group #lithuania

Nancy Siegel

This Discussion Group has replaced most of the old SIG  lists. You can search the Discussion Group via hashtags (eg #belarus or #ukraine, etc.) for prior postings about particular countries or regions.

LitvakSIG, Gesher Galicia, and JRI-Poland are independent organizations. JewishGen hosts their Digests.

Nancy Siegel
Director of Communications
(San Francisco, California)

Re: Where is Lakma, Hungary? #hungary

Judi Gyory Missel

Hi Dan,
Many years ago, I downloaded a copy of the 1828 Census listing of all the small towns in Hungary. Obviously, many, many changes happened since 1828, but I found that I can get a sense of town name origins and a place to start. Here's the list of towns for Borsod megye for just the L through M town names. As you can see there was a "Lak". It could have easily been absorbed into a nearby larger town. That was the case for some of my towns.
Lad- Bessenyo, Lad-Haza, Lak, Laszlofalva, Latorút, Lovo, Malyi, Malyinka, Martonyi, Mercse, Meszes, Mezo-Keresztes, Mezo-Kovesd, Mezo-Nyarad, Mindszent, Miskolc, Mocsolyas, Mogyorsd, Monosbel, Mucsony

Judi Gyory Missel
Mesa, Arizona

Re: people who lives\lived in israel(address,telephone and member family). #general #israel


Please also post your look-up offer on Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness. This is an international organization of genealogical volunteers who will look up information and records in their area. I have benefitted greatly from members assistance. I urge others to consider volunteering here and on other sites such as Books We Own. It's a wonderful way to contribute and feel part of a community. JewishGen does not have a look-up offer board, but many of the old pre-commercial websites still exist like Rootsweb, etc.

Pat Weinthal, USA

Tomorrow’s Searchers #general


For all of us amateur genealogists out there, the C-17s ferrying the multitudes out of Kabul may, at some point in the future, become the modern-day equivalent of the immigrant ships ferrying our ancestors out of the Old World. Their descendants will then find themselves searching for departure dates; arrival locations; crew names; ID numbers/lettering on the aircraft . . . . and so the process continues! Godspeed!

Sandi Root in Texas


Re: Finding information on ancestors in Liozna #belarus

Sherri Bobish


Try searching at:
JewishGen Belarus Database

You can do a soundex or phonetic search on the surname.

Good luck in your search,

Sherri Bobish

Re: Murder in Medved (Novgorod Gub.) in 1910 #russia

Sherri Bobish


This site lists on-line digitized newspaper archives, both old and recent.  Some are free, some are paid.  The site's list is geographical, so start by looking under Russia and see what is available.  If you don't read Russian than you're probably going to need help with your search.

Another idea is to find out if there is a library in Medved that has archives of old local newspapers.

Good luck in your search,

Sherri Bobish

Re: Help in explaining an inconsistency #usa #records

Moishe Miller


There is the two-volume work, Scattered Seeds, on the Sackheim family. In volume I, p207, is the reference to Clara, under entry 11.225 as Ida Clara (Chaya Kora) Sackheim Stahl, born circa 1880. It notes the passing of her husband, Alexander, in 1937 California. No death date is noted for Clara. In Volume 2, chart 48 (p742) shows Clara with her 4 children, Leon, Aaron, Anita and Molly. 

Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY
JGFF #3391

JGSIG September Meeting - Tues Sept 14, 2021, 10-11:30 EDT. Zoom - RSVP #announcements #education #events #jgs-iajgs

Arthur Sissman

JGSIG September Meeting - Tues Sept 14, 2021, 10-11:30 EDT. Zoom - RSVP



Hi All,



I will present information on -

How to share your Family Tree on Ancestry or My Heritage and Keep your Privacy.

  • Focus will be on sharing your Family Tree on while protecting your privacy as best you can.
  • Handout info will include info on doing the same on MyHeritage, and
  • Topics to cover: make a tree public, private, private non-searchable; sharing trees, sharing parts of trees - leaving live people private, splitting trees using software, sharing gedcoms, etc. 
  • What specific item in this sharing and privacy, do YOU need to know more about?  Send idea/request to genresearch13@..., with your request for a Zoom link!

The presentation is designed so you are encouraged to follow along on your device, using your data, to follow the Zoom demo.  If you can have the Zoom up on one device (phone, tablet, laptop, etc), while you following along on your tree on   Be interactive if you can - have you got a tree you need to share?


Q&A will follow the presentation.


I will be sending out a handout to those who attend the meeting.


Please RSVP to Arthur Sissman at genresearch13@... to receive a link to the Zoom meeting 2-3 days before Sept 14th at 10am.
You will receive an acknowledgement that you signed up.


Send your RSVP to Arthur Sissman  genresearch13@...  
Please send the following info with your request.
1. Your location.
2. Where do you have Trees - Ancestry, MyH, Family Search, etc?
3. Do you know what is or ever used a gedcom?
4. What is your #1 question about Sharing Trees with others?


Hope to see you at the meeting!



Arthur Sissman

Jewish Genealogy SIG of Collier/Lee Co FL



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Researching: ZISMAN/ZYSMAN/ZUSMAN (Belarus); TELESHEVSKY (Belarus); CHANUTIN, (W. Russia), BRODY, (Hungary); FRIEDMAN, (Hungary); GRAUBARD, (Romania/Ukraine)




Need headstone translation for granduncle Noah Jacob Jablow, and Minnie Jablow- #belarus #translation


Hi all,
A week or so ago, I posted photos of two gravestones of possible brothers of my maternal great-grandfather, Henry Jablow. Today, I’m posting two photos of the gravestone of another possible brother: Noah Jacob Jablow and his wife, Minnie Jablow. 
The stone is hard to read, so many thanks in advance for your help.
Dale Zeidman

New York

Re: Where is Lakma, Hungary? #hungary

Vivian Kahn


Possible candidates, all in Borsod megye include Ladhaza in Miskolci jaras, Alacska in Szentpeteri, and Lak in Szendrei. There is a town called Nagy-Mihaly in Egri jaras, which might also be Michalitz. 

Even though Auslander's Gazetteer is my primary source for place names, another place to check is the list of places by county and district at Janos Bogardi's Radix Research website

Vivian Kahn
JewishGen Hungarian Research Director

Jacobson family in Waco, TX #usa


I am looking for the half-sister of my grandfather Mendel Broutman in Waco, TX.  She was the mother of Alex Jacobson, who continued the family business "The Hub Clothiers", and the grandmother of Ellen Jacobson.

Elias Szczytnicki
Lima, Peru

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