Re: Trying to get record of death from Vienna, 1941 #austria-czech #records


Update: Veronica, the following compendium of records was not useful to me, as the death that I was looking for occurred after 1920, but it should be very useful to you, as it contains more information and has a less haphazard ordering of records: Wien, Stadt- und Landesarchiv, Sterberegister, 1648-1920 (at Family Search)

Miles Rind
Cambridge, Mass.

Jewish cemetaries restoration. #poland #general

אבא ואמא

I try to find any organization who work with Jewish cemetaries restoration in poland.why?I am going to be from 30 September in bilgoraj and tarnobrzeg(dzikow)in poland.what I saw that there are not data from this cemetaries from this who I have to be in contact?
Thanks a lot
yerucham zvi kunstlich
bnei Barack
Israel(the holy land)

Re: Trying to get information on the wife and family of Elchanan Livenberg or Levenberg, lived on Chasan Sofer 17, Bnei Brak, Israel. #names #romania #hungary #israel

Walla Walla

Elhanan Levenberg's son lives in Jerusalem and his daughter lives in Bnei Brak. I do not know how to contact and provide an address and telephone numbers in a personal message, so I answer here in the forum
According to Bezeq 144 Mordechai Shlomo Levenberg, the male of the twins
I can move more details I have no how

Re: Trying to get record of death from Vienna, 1941 #austria-czech #records


Veronica, I have received replies privately that have led me down two roads of inquiry.

(1) One was to write to my local Austrian consulate. The consulate sent me PDFs for applying to the Austrian Federal Ministry for European and Foreign Affairs (Bundesministerium für europäische und internationale Angelegenheiten) in Vienna for a copy of the death certificate. If I have interpreted the instructions correctly, the fee is only 14.90 euros, though bank transfer fees are an additional cost. I don't know, though, whether you can get a certificate without specifying a date of death.

(2) The suggestion of an informant led me to the index of death records (Totenverzeichnisse) of the City Archive of Vienna from 1868 to 1942 at the Family Search Web site. I found the index entry for the death of my cousin there: it tells me where he died, but not the cause of death, though some entries do provide that information. However, without an exact date of death, you may have to search by eye through dozens or hundreds of images to find the record of your grandmother. Even with an exact date of death, I had to look through several pages, because the deaths are recorded somewhat haphazardly, apparently according to whenever the news reached the office.

Miles Rind
Cambridge, Mass.

Hârlău's Maps #romania


While trying to locate my ancestors' addresses in Harlau, Romania, based on the records I have found about them, I realize the streets no longer exist on the current map of the town. Does anybody have previous maps of Harlau they can share?

Thank you,
Sharon Cop
New York, NY

Re: Why were so many children labeled "illegitimate" in Birth Registration (Metrical) Books of Subcarpathia - late 1800s #hungary


Maybe you can learn something from books like -

Jewish Marriage and Divorce in Imperial Russia
(Tauber Institute for the Study of European Jewry)
Paperback – November 1, 2001

Re: German Reparation Files #records #germany

Michael Danziger

Thank you so much for your reply Corinna. 

As you know, reparations were paid to non-German residents as well. So where would one write to find those records (for example, for my Polish family)?

Warm regards,

Michael Danziger

New Jersey

Re: German Reparation Files #records #germany


Dear Michael, dear  Eleanor and dear readers of the list:
There is a central card index:


Bezirksregierung Düsseldorf

- Dezernat 15 (Bundeszentralkartei) -

Postfach 30 08 65

40408 Düsseldorf

Tel.: 0211/475 - 3071 oder 3571

Fax.: 0211/475 - 3979

Email: bzk@...

You can ask them via e-mail. They are able to tell you where the files concerning a person are held.
Some are in the state archives of the region where the person lived or submittel claims. Some are still stored with the authorities.
In Berlin you can search a database of the Berlin states archives. 
But they have only the files for lost propertiy restitution  claims. The other files are still held at the

Entschädigungsbehörde des Landes Berlin 

Normally the files can be accessed thirty years after death of the person. Sometimes they whant a formless declaration about being related.

Kind regards
Barbara Elkeles

Re: PotatoNik (not kugel!) #general

Moshe Berman

Wikipedia has this article that looks interesting. I haven’t read it yet. Apparently there are TWO foods that share that name.

Moshe Berman,

Re: What is the meaning of this sign being displayed by POWs in WWI? #translation #photographs #hungary #austria-czech

Ellen Garshick

Nancy, I see that you have ancestors from Radzivilov. Our Kremenets-district group has translated many records from Radzivilov, including some vital records for the Zagoroder family. There are more than 100 entries in the Indexed Concordance of Personal Names and Town Names (a name-town index; see see for Zagarader/Zagoroder (and more than 440,000 entries overall). If you find records of interest, let me know!

(The main towns in the Kremenets district are Belozirka, Berezhtsy, Folwarki Wielkie, Katerburg, Kozin, Kremenets, Krupets, Lanovtsy, Oleksinets, Pochayev, Podbereztsy, Radzivilov, Rokhmanov, Shumsk, Sosnivka, Staryy Aleksinets, Vishnevets, Vyshgorodok, and Yampol.)


Ellen Garshick

Co-Coordinator, Kremenets Research Area/Jewish Records Indexing-Poland

an activity of the Kremenets District Research Group


Researching BAT, AVERBAKH from Kremenets, Shumsk, Katerburg, and Folvarki, Ukraine; GERSHIK, HURWITCH from Staryye Dorogi and Bobruisk, Belarus; ROTHKOPF (ROTKOP), GOLDBERG from Bialystok, Poland, and Baranivichi and Slonim, Belarus 

Re: PotatoNik (not kugel!) #general


Jules Levin asked if potatonik was a potato knish. Different animal entirely Jules.

My Bubba (great-grandmother) and her daughter (my grandmother) from Poltava in eastern Ukraine, often made potato knish and it was delicious. Rather like a strudel, made with rolled up flour dough and filled with mashed potato, fried onions and lashings of chicken schmaltz and griven.

Unfortunately I don't have the recipe but I have found one in a wonderful Jewish cookery book published in 1957 by Sara Kasdan called Love and Kishkes. It's my favourite. Her dedication is 
"To the wonderful women who never cooked from a book ... if the way to a man's heart is through his stomach, then knishes will get there faster ... and stay there longer."

Alan Cohen

Re: Private sale of valuable Jewish records (Pinkasim) #general #records

Wendy Kalman

It also liinks back to a blog I wrote when Mattan Segev-Frank first brought up the topic in the Facebook Group Jewish Genealogical Portal. The article is fabulous but if you want to know more, I think the blog is worth delving into too:

Wendy Kalman
Acworth, GA

Re: PotatoNik (not kugel!) #general

Moshe Berman

Ms. Levin,

Respectfully, I’m finding myself overreacting. 

Potatonik is not a Kugel, nor a Latke, Derma, Kishka, and certainly not a Knish. As a Lower East Sider, I am compelled to insist that Potatonik is a flavor unto itself, a culinary delight unlike any other.

It consists of a very thin, brittle, dark brown crust. Its inner texture is moist, when fresh. As it ages, it dries out until it’s nearly impossible to swallow. A slice of potatonik always has holes like a sponge. The flavor is that of a potato, seasoned with black pepper. 

It’s best to have the bakery slice it, unless you want a mess of crumbs. And if you eat it too quickly, it’s easy to cough on the very same crumbs, but it’s too good not to eat it quickly, always wanting more. The aftertaste lingers with that black pepper. It’s divine.

Based on the conversation here, I’m guessing that there’s probably no oil in the batter, probably water, potatoes, pepper and maybe a small amount of eggs. I wouldn’t be surprised if the sponginess was caused by yeast. 

You can still buy this unique item at Moisha’s Bakery at Grand and East Broadway, between the kosher butcher and the kosher grocery. 

Hope this clarifies things,
Moshe Berman,
Boca Raton, FL

Re: Uruguay Sources #poland

kosfiszer8@...  is a database of immigrants to the port of Buenos Aires, Argentina. It is in Spanish and it requires the exact spelling of the family name, that may not be the spelling that one expects. Another source is the Jewish Genealogy group AGJA and their email consultas.agja@... (I do not know if they will correspond in English). If any family member died in Buenos Aires, the records of the Jewish cemetery at Tablada are available on line. Good luck

Angel Kosfiszer

Richardson, Texas

Re: Trying to get record of death from Vienna, 1941 #austria-czech #records

Veronica Zundel

I would be interested in this too, as I would like to see a death record of my birth grandmother Etie Horoschowska who died in the Spanish flu epidemic, I believe in 1919.
Veronica Zundel, London
Searching descendants of Josef Jakob Horoschowski b. 1905 Drohobych

Re: German Reparation Files #records #germany

Eleanor Lind

Where do I write for Berlin please?
eleanor Lind

MNJGS will host Risa Daitzman Heywood, Sept 19, 2021, 11AM central time on Zoom: "The Power of the Catalog – Unindexed Records and How to Find Them" #events #education #announcements


The Minnesota Jewish Genealogical Society will host Risa Daitzman Heywood, Sept 19, 2021 at 11AM central time, speaking on "The Power of the Catalog – Unindexed Records and How to Find Them." 

Did you know that over 75% of the records available on FamilySearch cannot be accessed by a simple records search? Did you know that Ancestry has record collections that are available to browse but that cannot be searched because they are not yet indexed? While digitizing records is relatively fast and inexpensive, indexing those records is much costlier. Many online repositories have made these records available for browsing but working with them can be a challenge. This presentation will show you how to find and use these unindexed records to greatly enhance your research.


The program will take place on-line via Zoom. Questions can be emailed to MNJGS by clicking here. There is no cost for MNJGS Members and a suggested donation of $5 for nonmembers.

Registration is required via the link below:

Liba Casson-Nudell
Minneapolis, MN

Re: PotatoNik (not kugel!) #general

Jules Levin

On 8/27/21 9:18 AM, rebasolomon wrote:

Does anyone know a recipe for Potatonik?  I’ve tried the NY Times recipe online, and it’s not what I knew and loved.

Growing up, we never had potato kugel. My “Bubba” (not Bubbie, not Bobbie) always made Potatonik!  Her family was from Galicia, south of Przemysl and Western Ukraine (Ustrzyki Dolne, Posidov-Nowy Miasto, and Mostyska.) Potatonik used to be sold in the bakeries but now it has disappeared.

Is it possible that what people are calling potatonik is a potato knish?  That would explain why it was sold in the bakeries.  But the word potatonik is as I said unknown east of Ellis Island--Yinglish--which is Yiddish English, like the word "derma" for kishka, which was invented by Jews because it sounds less Jew-ish than kishke.  I believe the word was used in Saul Bellow's Augie March, written in the '40's when gentiles didn't know from Yiddish words.  Now I hear proper Anglo New Englanders throwing in Yiddish words in radio commentary.

Jules Levin, Los Angeles

Reba Harris Solomon

Re: Transcription Needed #translation


Odeda is correct that Solomon's father is Shimon. Shlomo is Solomon's Hebrew name, not his father.
Binyamin Kerman
Baltimore MD

SPIELER Lodz, Zloczew, Belchatow

Re: German Reparation Files #records #germany

Corinna Woehrl (nee Goslar)

Hello Michael and list-readers,


I can only inform you about the procedures at the Hamburg State Archives:

Here you will find restitution files (called Wiedergutmachungsakten) for people who lived in Hamburg prior to their escape or deportation.

You can search by name via

The main department is 351_11 Amt für Wiedergutmachung, but you will also find files in other places.

Please keep in mind that the information can be disturbing: you will find a lot of rejection in early documents (depending on the person in charge at the office - sometimes they were the same people who had also been on duty during the Nazi era). In my experience, later (after ca. 1960), the tone of the correspondence changed and was more respectful. 


I'm not quite sure - but think the files for people from former eastern provinces (e.g. Posen) are kept at the German State Archives which you can search via the following link


So you have to know in which city the person you are seeking information about had lived. Then you have to ask at the local archive where the files ("Wiedergutmachungsakten") are stored.

In general, they are a great treasure as they often include a résumé and other correspondence revealing lots of family details. 


The general retention period is 30 years after the death of the 'subject' for whom the record was compiled - if you are a direct descendant, you can get insight earlier.


Kind regards from Germany


Corinna Wöhrl, Hoisdor (near Hamburg), Germany

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