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Re: Uncle of R' Samuel b. Aryeh Leyb Deiches, Dayan in Vilna ca. 1750
#lithuania
yairsegalparis@...
More info about him, here:
https://www.hebrewbooks.org/ -- Yair Segal
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Re: Morris and Matilda Lyons
#germany
#unitedkingdom
paveanyu@...
Hi, 5th September 2021
I wonder , if it is any help--or not? In a public --Jewish Telephone book--London NW4 -- The Telephone book been printed about 10 years ago. There is a Miss. A Lyons---tel: 020-8201-5993 Fax: 020-8201 5992 and a Miss S. Lyons tel:: 020-8201-5994 Fax. 020-8201-5992 Same address Best of luck Veronika Pachtinger London -UK I would like to take the opportunity to Wish a Guth Gebenched , Mazeldike Healthy Happy Year to Everybody at Jewish Gen and to Klal Yisroel Countless Blessed Healthy Years ahead in prosperity to All. paveanyu@...
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Supral and Bialystok Cemetery
#poland
Richard Oppenheimer
Does anyone know if a list of all those buried in the two Bialystok cemeteries is available on the internet?
-- Richard Oppenheimer Venice, Florida, USA
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New - The Warsaw KehilaLink
#warsaw
#JewishGenUpdates
Hi All
I am pleased to advise that we have added my 88th Jewishgen KehilaLink:
WARSAW Poland
We have launched the site somewhat modestly, and trust we will receive many articles including family stories, photos, trees and newsletters.
The Warsaw KehilaLink address is:
If you would like to add your contribution to the site, or have any queries, please email me at eli@....
For the list of and links to my 88 KehilaLinks, please visit:
If you are looking for examples of excellent family stories and newsletters, please visit these two links:
and
The Kimberley site is a successful collaboration between Geraldine Auerbach MBE in London, and myself in Perth Australia, as well as the many individual contributors all around the globe. Your story will be secure on Jewishgen’s server, and can be easily accessed by over 500000 Jewishgen members.
I am also adding a Google Search app within each KehilaLink, making this function more powerful.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Finally, I would like to wish you Shana Tova U’metukah.
Best regards
Eli Rabinowitz
KehilaLink Definition:
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Re: Morris and Matilda Lyons
#germany
#unitedkingdom
rv Kaplan
Often surname changes are random. In Scotland, we have Lyons families over the years who were previously
Entein, Lasker, Nussbaum etc. There were also families which took the name Lyon. Interestingly, my grandfather's Hebrew name was Aryeh Leib, but his Scottish birth certificate in 1890 lists him as Lion Kaplan - with lion being a direct translation of Aryeh. All through his life, though, he was known as Louis! Harvey Kaplan Glasgow, Scotland
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Re: Morris and Matilda Lyons
#germany
#unitedkingdom
rv Kaplan
But what hasn't survived in Glasgow are any Jewish records of birth or marriage before the late 1850s. Harvey Kaplan Glasgow
On Sat, 4 Sep 2021, 16:35 Michael Tobias, <michael@...> wrote: It is not that the possible marriage and birth records in Glasgow did not survive - they never existed. Statutory Registration in Scotland did not start until 1855 - before that families registered in Churches (Old Parish Registers) and Jews were exempt. Some Jewish families registered at the Parishes but they are few and far between.
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Re: Editable family tree forms
#general
I second the recommendation to try a spreadsheet. I'd been looking for a way to represent my family tree in form inexperienced family members could follow without any luck. Then a cousin shared a hand-drawn tree created decades ago by a distant relative. The format was readily applied to a spreadsheet and I was able to quickly transcribe the original to Google Docs. Even better, I could share the private document with family members and get their updates and correction. After transcribing the original as-is, I've made a copy which I'm updating and enhancing, color-coding and annotating entries. I particularly like the ability to keep generations in alignment with labeled rows. I'm still waiting for updates from some cousins but once it is is reasonably up-to-date, I plan on trying to get it printed in a banner format -- it looks to run 5-6' wide - and share copies with my family.
Understand, this is not a simple project. You can't cut and paste or upload a GEDCOM file to populate your tree. Nor have I tried to make it attractive a la Henry Gates' book of life. But it is workable and readable. Lee David Jaffe -- Surnames / Towns: Jaffe / Suchowola, Poland ; Stein (Sztejnsapir) / Bialystok and Rajgrod, Poland ; Joroff (Jaroff, Zarov) / Chernigov, Ukraine ; Schwartz (Schwarzman?, Schwarzstein?) / ? ; Koshkin / Snovsk, Ukraine ; Rappoport / ? ; Braun / Wizajny, Suwalki, Poland, Ludwinowski / Wizajny, Suwalki, Poland
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Re: The relationship between Pashtuns and Jews
#general
See here: http://halachicadventures.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/ari-n-ari_pashtun.pdf or here: https://mishpacha.com/pashtun-pride/ (identical)
-- Yehoshua Sivan
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Re: The relationship between Pashtuns and Jews
#general
haakonc@...
There has been a lot of ink spilled on this, and I’m not sure there is a definitive answer yet. If the Pashtuns and the Jews are in fact closely related, this should show up in their DNA. Even here I’ve seen various claims, mostly unsourced. This post throws some doubt on their close relationship. The author is not a population geneticist, but he does give sources.
Cambridge, Massachusetts
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Re: Morris and Matilda Lyons
#germany
#unitedkingdom
Michael Tobias
It is not that the possible marriage and birth records in Glasgow did not survive - they never existed. Statutory Registration in Scotland did not start until 1855 - before that families registered in Churches (Old Parish Registers) and Jews were exempt. Some Jewish families registered at the Parishes but they are few and far between.
There were other German-Jewish families in Scotland from the late 18th century who used the surname LYONS or LYON. In one case the father's given name was Leib (Yiddish meaning the animal Lion, hence the choice of surname). Most German families in Germany at that time did not have surnames. Several researchers have family trees on Ancestry which give the names of Matilda's parents and her maiden name as LOVELL. I see that son Isidore married Lavinia LOVELL so there might have been an ongoing connection between those families. Michael Tobias Glasgow, Scotland
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Re: The relationship between Pashtuns and Jews
#general
Emily Rosenberg
-- Thank you so much for sharing this. The Jewish Family and Community Service here in East Bay of San Francisco is the US government contracted resettlement agency for Afghan refugees. Their philosophy is "we know how to settle refugees.". After more than a century of settling Jewish refugees from Europe and then from the Soviet Union they've now turned their expertise to whoever is next and have Afghan social workers on their paid staff. I had a great experience helping resettle a family through them a few years ago so I especially appreciate knowing this distant connection. Emily Rosenberg Oakland, California KESNER in Amsterdam, London, Chicago STODEL in Amsterdam, London, USA KAWIN in Suwalki and Poland RUBINSKY in Suwalki and Poland
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Re: Morris and Matilda Lyons
#germany
#unitedkingdom
Robert Weinberg
Dear David, A couple of thoughts. "Lion" was a German Jewish family name in MW Germany, possibly sometimes Lyon. And "Yechiel" was almost certainly not the name used in the outside world. The name is almost unheard of among German Jews as a civil name. That leaves you empty-handed with what his "official", non-Hebrew name was. Best wishes Bob Weinberg
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Re: prenuptial agreement
#poland
Frank Szmulowicz
Another JGener sent me a wedding certificate which contains an example of a prenuptial agreement. It concerns the property the newlyweds are bringing into the marriage, in particular, the dowry.
Frank Szmulowicz
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Re: Morris and Matilda Lyons
#germany
#unitedkingdom
l.a.m.buisman@...
About surnames in Hamburg changing from patronym to official familyname: https://jewish-history-online.net/article/czakai-family-names
Maybe Yechiels father was Levi/Leib/Leonard/Lion. And he officially adopted that name as his surname. (in Glasgow anglicized to Lyons, maybe just because the immigration officer heard something like son of Leib, or Leib's sohn as Lion(s). A name change like that could also has happened generations earlier. For business reasons many merchants took on a civic name way before that. In Jewish records usually just find name and patronym. So you may have to search for surnames that start with Levi/Leib/Lion/Leon (maybe other variants. Mind pronunciation in German and imagine how a Brit would understand it. Loes Buisman, Amsterdam
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Re: Itzkovitz/Leon
#lithuania
#southafrica
Max Heffler
My wife’s great-grandmother was Kende Isakowitz Golden from Lithuania, whose descendants went to South Africa, a common path for Lithuanians.
Max Heffler Houston, TX
From: main@... [mailto:main@...]
On Behalf Of Richard Gross via groups.jewishgen.org
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 8:18 PM To: main@... Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Itzkovitz/Leon #lithuania #southafrica
My husband went to medical school in Johannesburg with a Harry Isakowitz. I wonder if this could be the same family. We don't know much about Harry other than he was very tall (6 foot 6 inches) and had been a pharmacist before going to medical school. Hope this helps a little. Good hunting. Beulah Gross -- Max Heffler
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Re: Itzkovitz/Leon
#lithuania
#southafrica
Richard Gross
My husband went to medical school in Johannesburg with a Harry Isakowitz. I wonder if this could be the same family. We don't know much about Harry other than he was very tall (6 foot 6 inches) and had been a pharmacist before going to medical school. Hope this helps a little. Good hunting. Beulah Gross
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Re: Framing Family Trees
#general
David Harrison <djh_119@...>
Take care with your wishes. About 7 years ago my wife won the masthead flag (about 1 metre by 2 metres)of a ship that took us from Grande Canaria to Argentina. It cost £100 from the local picture framer and we had difficulty finding a place for it. But
it is a fab "Talking Point". Picture framers are not rare in this country and surely must exist in any reasonable town of three or four thousand people as is our suburb of Birmingham.
David Harrison, Birmingham, England
From: main@... <main@...> on behalf of dan.efrat@... <dan.efrat@...>
Sent: 03 September 2021 15:31 To: main@... <main@...> Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Framing Family Trees #general I had mine framed years ago (25+ years ago) in a special framing store back in Israel. My tree is pretty big, almost 3X4 feet and they used aluminum frame to save weight. I don’t recall how much I paid but I’m very pleased with the frame.
Dan Efrat Cherry Hill, NJ, USA Researching: Israelit/Israelite from Novogrudok and Dyatlovo (Belarus) and from Latvia, Rabinowitz from Dyatlovo, Pruss and Koifman/Kaufman from Ukraine and Goldblat from the Grodno area
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ViewMate translation request - Polish
#translation
Dror Bereznitsky
I've posted a birth record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address:
https://www.jewishgen.org/view Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much. Dror Bereznitsky
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Re: Framing Family Trees
#general
mab@...
Is your question about framing a tree or about printing it out in preparation for framing?
If your question is about framing, any frame store near you should be able to help. Just be sure that the any backboard or mat is acid free. If your question is about printing, I would suggest downloading a gedcom and then using one of the online services that specialize in this. You can find out more about the options to do so at: https://www.familytreemagazine.com/projects/how-to-print-family-tree/ -- Miriam Alexander Baker
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Re: Framing Family Trees
#general
dan.efrat@...
I had mine framed years ago (25+ years ago) in a special framing store back in Israel. My tree is pretty big, almost 3X4 feet and they used aluminum frame to save weight. I don’t recall how much I paid but I’m very pleased with the frame.
Dan Efrat Cherry Hill, NJ, USA Researching: Israelit/Israelite from Novogrudok and Dyatlovo (Belarus) and from Latvia, Rabinowitz from Dyatlovo, Pruss and Koifman/Kaufman from Ukraine and Goldblat from the Grodno area
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