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JewishGen Romania Research Division Update
#records
#JewishGenUpdates
#announcements
#romania
Michael Moritz
JewishGen Romania Research Division Update
Follow this link for a full update on our activities. Among other things, here is some of what is covered:
The full link to view the update is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qskYwmnmy6FvXmzX6Tcs5m7KSnmoR5l2vo3_4rKECAM/edit?usp=sharing.
Many thanks to all of our wonderful volunteers and contributors! If you are interested in volunteering, please reach out to Dana Lugassy (dlugassy@...). Best, Michael Michael Moritz Director, Romania Research Division mmoritz@...
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New information regarding my Greenberg/Aprivei line
#poland
sacredsisters1977@...
Hi All,
I have been researching my mysterious Greenberg line for many years now. In the beginning I only knew of my great grandfather Abraham and that he was from Hertza dorohoi Romania. Then I stumbled upon a POT, that linked to a sibling named Joseph. Then the trail went cold. I then had a research group look for records for me and that revealed a few more siblings. I was so excited to have more information. Then I was stuck again. Now I am excited to say I was just contacted by living descendants. I had a hour long conference call that was amazing. We are going to talk more to help fill in the gaps of our family tree. What's amazing is that I am just finding out that my line may have come from Poland before settling in Romania. I will post another update when I know more. Sarah Greenberg (USA-CT) sacredsisters1977@...
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Virtual tour of Amsterdam's National Holocaust Names Monument available
#holocaust
Peter Cherna
News article (translates very well in Google Translate):
https://over.nos.nl/nieuws/loop-door-het-holocaust-namenmonument-in-online-special/ Summary from the article:
Visit https://app.nos.nl/namenmonument/ (best experienced on a laptop or desktop screen, also works on mobile), for a very high resolution photo panorama of the monument and the names.
Virtual tour of Amsterdam's National Holocaust Names Monument available.
(The photographer who did the work is someone I used to work with some time ago.) Peter Cherna, Exton PA (peter@...) Researching CSERNA (Budapest, Székesfehérvár), GRUNFELD (Székesfehérvár), BRAUN, REINER (Budapest, Nyíregyháza, Máriapócs), EHRENFELD (Pozsony, Balassagyarmat) BRACK (Ipolykeszi)
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Re: Gitel bas ???????
#names
Yitschok Margareten
Gitel bas Yochanan
-- Yitschok Margareten
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Re: Elizabeth Abrahams c1786 London
#sephardic
#unitedkingdom
David Harrison <djh_119@...>
Dear Elizabeth (and others)
Just an idea, look in the Bevis Marks records. I have only the Part III for the period 1837-1901, published jointly by the Spanish and Portuguese Congregation and the Jewish Historical Society of England. In the intro it states that Part II 1687-1837 contains
abstracts of the earlier Ketubot. As you live in London, a look in their web-site for their visiting hours etc, and search facilities might be useful or other libraries in the area
with Jewish records in the area might have the information. JGSGB might have the books in their library in its new home.
David Harrison
Birmingham, England
From: main@... <main@...> on behalf of lizgraves@... <lizgraves@...>
Sent: 19 September 2021 15:06 To: main@... <main@...> Subject: [JewishGen.org] Elizabeth Abrahams c1786 London #sephardic #unitedkingdom I am trying to find out if my 4x great grandmother Elizabeth Abrahams born c1786 in Aldgate/ Whitechapel in East London has Sephardic ancestry. There is a family story passed down my mother’s line that we have Spanish Jewish roots which I am exploring. On Synagogue Scribes, Elizabeth Abrahams ( Hebrew name Beila) married Israel Jacobs in 1806 at the Great Synagogue. The Hebrew name of her father was listed as Abraham HaLevi. I haven’t managed to find the name of her mother or go back any further on her father Abraham HaLevi. Many of my Ashkenazi distant cousin married Jews with Spanish Sephardic surnames ( Mendoza, Nunes-Martines, Belasco etc). I know that The Great Synagogue was Ashkenazi, but I have also been informed that intermarrying of Sephardic and Ashkenazi occurred from the late 1700s onwards. So it is possible one or both of Elizabeth Abrahams’ parents were Sephardic. Can anyone point me in the right direction. Does anyone know if Elizabeth’s Hebrew name Beila or the Hebrew name of her father Abraham HaLevi provides an clue? I read somewhere that Beila is a Spanish variant of the name Elizabeth. Any help would be great fully received. Many thanks in advance, Elizabeth Graves
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Re: DNA: 23andMe Matches Workshop Monday Oct 4, 2021 1-4pm EDT
#jgs-iajgs
#announcements
#dna
#education
#events
Hi,
Still have a couple of spots. The email address genresearch13@... appears to be Truncated in the original message for some reason. Please convert this email address "genresearch13@...", here is a written version you will have to convert - genresearch12 (@) yahoo.com. Or send me a message at 954-328-3559. Paul from Southamton was successful in doing this. Thanks Paul! Both work for me. Perhaps JG Discussion Group should put out some info on this. I have had several comments on this problem. -- Regards, Arthur Sissman Jewish Genealogy SIG of Collier/Lee Co FL genresearch13 (*) @yahoo.com (type email in email form erasing the (@) Join our FB page at Jewish Genealogy SIG: https://www.facebook.com/groups/hellojewishgen Genealogy Wise page: http://www.genealogywise.com/profile/ArthurSissman
Researching: ZISMAN/ZYSMAN/ZUSMAN (Belarus); TELESHEVSKY (Belarus); CHANUTIN, (W. Russia), BRODY, (Hungary); FRIEDMAN, (Hungary); GRAUBARD, (Romania/Ukraine) TimeZoneConverter. https://www.thetimezoneconverter.com/
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Re: Holocaust Denial - a Polish movie aimed at denying the Jedwabne massacre
#holocaust
m.rind@...
From the linked article, or at least from the Goolge translation of it, which is the nearest thing to it that I can read. I cannot gather what the purport of the film is. However, an article in (very imperfect) English about the book Powrot do Jedwabnego by Wojciech Sumlinski makes clear what Smulinki's position is. He is advancing the claim that the Jedwabne massacre was perpetrated by Germans and that Jewish organizations are conspiring to pin blame on Poles so that they can exact reparation payments from them. Here is an excerpt: The Banned Book That Many Jews Are Afraid Of: Holocaust Industry Terezin Tentacles, and The Jedwabne Lie is Unravelling: Bullet Casings Under Lenin Statue Prove German Guilt Author Sumlinski had a fascinating discussion with Jerzy Kwasniewski, the President of Ordo Iuris (pp. 282-297). The discussion pointed out that international law can be “made up” arbitrarily, to be applied ex post facto, and to trump pre-existing national laws. The Nuremberg Trials are a classic example. The German defendants had not broken any German laws. Instead, they were charged in accordance with newly-minted international law, which trumped German law, and which furthermore was applied retroactively to their acts. (p. 286).And so nauseatingly on. -- Miles Rind Cambridge, Mass.
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Re: Elizabeth Abrahams c1786 London
#sephardic
#unitedkingdom
Jill Whitehead
I have Beila in one branch of my family used as a version of Rebecca - she is Rebecca in all the official records but Beila on her Ketubah and on her gravestone. This family branch has one line that could be Sephardic but I cannot prove it. NB Beila was a common Ashkenazi name in the middle ages in England.
Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK
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Re: JEWS IN HIDING IN NICE DURING WW2
#france
#holocaust
JUROVSKY,Catherine
Merci Bernard
Oui je parle français d'ailleurs nous avons déjà été en contact! Je dois être un peu bête mais je n'ai pas réussi à retrouver votre post du 06/03 J'ai été sur le site en ligne des Archives des Alpes maritimes mais sans rien trouver. Je ne sais pas si il n'y a rien en ligne ou si je ne sais pas chercher . En tout état de cause je suis sûre qu'il y a au moins un dossier pour mes grands parents car dans le dossier de naturalisation de mon grand-père aux Archives Nationales il y a le résultat d'une enquête demandée par le Ministère de l'Intérieur auprès de la préfecture des Alpes maritimes dans le cadre de la commission de dénaturalisation (en PJ) Cela signifie qu'ils ont dû se déclarer à Nice à un moment ou un autre et qu'il y a donc un dossier quelque part à leur nom. Par ailleurs pour mes grand oncles qui étaient apatrides j'ai cru comprendre qu'ils avaient également une obligation de s'enregistrer? J'ai écrit aux archives pour leur demander une aide mais je n'ai aucune réponse à ce stade. Cordialement Catherine JUROVSKY catherine.jurovsky@...
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Roberta Berman
I have heard and read stories about Jewish brothers living with different families or using different surnames to avoid being in the army in Russia. All of it being anecdotal.
Where can I find proof of this? Is there a Russian law somewhere that states the requirements or exemptions for Jews serving in the army in the 1880s? Roberta Berman Sunny Southern California Researching: OPPENHEIM from Brest-Litovsk; WEISBERG from Kiev; CHAMEIDES.
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Re: Austrian military official
#austria-czech
#general
beer_tom@...
On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 06:58 AM, Robert Fraser wrote:
Check out:https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/K.k._Gendarmerie If you use Google chrome as your search engine then it will automatically translate the German to English. It was a military rank entitled to 3 stars. Tom Beer Melbourne, Australia.
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Avi Debby
Hi,
Hope this helps.
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Invitation to JGSSN Zoom meeting on October 10: "Routes to Roots Foundation: New Surnames Databases, Maps, Town Images and More!” with Miriam Weiner
#events
Ben Kempner
The Jewish Genealogy Society of Southern Nevada (JGSSN) invites you to a Zoom meeting at 11:00 a.m. (Pacific Daylight Time) on Sunday, October 10: “"Routes to Roots Foundation: New Surnames Databases, Maps, Town Images and More!” with Miriam Weiner
To request a Zoom link, please complete this short form: which can also be found on our Meetings webpage. Members of JGSSN can attend for free. Non-members can pay $5.00 on the Donate webpage and complete the short form. Session Description: From 30+ years of working in the archives of Eastern Europe (Poland, Ukraine, Moldova, Belarus, Lithuania), Miriam has acquired hundreds of various document collections yielding millions of surnames. She formed a close working relationship with archivists on all levels many of which continue to this day. About Miriam Weiner: In 1989, Miriam Weiner accepted an invitation from the Polish National Tourist Office to visit the Polish Archives in preparation for arranging genealogy tours to Poland. That visit led to a 30+ year career working in the archives of Poland, Ukraine, Moldova, Belarus and Lithuania.
The new version of the RTRF website has produced many comments from noted members of the genealogical community, See www.rtrfoundation.org/comments2020.shtml
Ben Kempner Vice President, Jewish Genealogy Society of Southern Nevada
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ViewMate translation request - Yiddish
#yiddish
#translation
Harlene Rosenberg
Translation assistance, please, Yiddish to English. This is a two page letter written, most likely, to my grandmother, Bessie/Basia (her husband is Benjamin Aronson). Malka and Rosa (her sisters) are names within the letter. Thank you, in advance, for taking the time to read. A full translation, most appreciated, but also will be very happy with names, places and events discussed.
https://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=95178
https://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=95179
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Re: What is this Hebrew name?
#names
neilan1
Correction - The (misspelled) name does not have to "live into perpetuity". A cousin of mine,who lived alone, had passed away some time ago. When I visited the cemetery and saw her matzevah, (headstone), I realized that the attorney, who had handled the arrangements, had supplied the wrong Hebrew names for both the deceased, and her father. After I interceded, the monument company somehow made the correct changes to the stone in a manner that the changes were not readily apparent.
Neilan Stern neilan1@... researching: Stern, Pistrong, Stieglitz - Radomysl Wielki; Aonov/wsky, Cohen - Vilijampole, Kovno, Lithuania; Black, Schwarz - Nesvizh, Belarus
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Re: Ancestry Appoints Former Amazon and Facebook Executives
#announcements
#records
David Silvera
This is not good news. It's one thing to have our ancestors baptized posthumously by the LDS, now our cherished and revered ancestors will be subject to monetization by data predators.
-- David Silvera
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ViewMate Translation requests
#poland
#translation
Tammy
L'Shanah Tova!
I have posted three different vital records relating to the Siedlce region of Poland for which I would appreciate translations: 1) #95207 Miedzyrzec Podlaski death record 2) #95208 Terespol birth record 3) #95209 Radzyn Podlaski death record All three are written in Polish. With gratitude! Tammy Weingarten
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ViewMate Translation request - 1834 Russian Revision List from Polonnoye
#ukraine
#translation
Emily Garber
I've posted a Russian revision list entry for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ... https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM95285 This is an entry from the male side of the 1834 Polonnoye Revision List for the Evel Ire Uchinik household in Polonnoye (thanks to Alex Krakovsky for putting this revision list online!). I am particularly interested in what happened to Evel Ire's 1st nephew, Leiba Dibrisker, in 1833. Death (umer) is noted for Evel Ire and all the other nephews. The word in Leiba's entry is different and unknown. If anyone can decipher it I would be much obliged!
As a result of help from volunteers on the Genealogical Translation FaceBook page, I believe the revision list entry is: Evel Ire Uchinik , age 30 [previous census), died in 1823 Son Leibish Itsko, age 14 - age 32 [this census] Mordko, son of Leibish Itsko and Eta, age 6 [this census] Nephews of Evel Ire Uchinik: 1st - Leiba, son of Yankel, Dibrisker, age 42, ??? in 1833 2nd - Shlioma Yankel, son of Berko, Furman, age 36, died in 1826 3rd - Srul, son of Berko, Lapman, age 60, died in 1823 4th Lemel, son of Moshko, Spektor, age 40, died in 1823 Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much. Emily Garber
Phoenix, AZ
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ViewMate translation request - Russian
#translation
#poland
#russia
Greg Tuckman
Hello everyone,
I've posted 4 vital records in Russian for which I need translations. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses ... 1. Death record of Lejbus PRZEDNOWEK: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM95300&data=04%7C01%7C%7C79c355e6cb614809dd8708d97b96b000%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637676709394576188%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=iAkCKMOUdKYDv0T6ZjAqFe932iBHpVLZA7hJj5C2d10%3D&reserved=0 2. Death record of Nachman PRZEDNOWEK: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM95301&data=04%7C01%7C%7C837e2da9836c4991f62b08d97b96b1ef%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637676709425498640%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=QoqhZ17H0k6xDbnM6XgugBxbJsq2wxtBp6ZSyUKFHfE%3D&reserved=0 3. Death record of Ryfka KAUFER: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM95302&data=04%7C01%7C%7C8277233bfa3048792f3b08d97b96b361%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637676709466965107%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=HKQlCVwvTIeKGiGqujpCTuPvmDln66NcLbjo3VfqHGs%3D&reserved=0 4. Birth record of Simcha Chil WINTER: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM95303&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3633a22bea77445ad5d408d97b96b567%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637676709483885507%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=ThbGPxcXZEQCKUzjzshYzIOfeFm8uAhEa5rkeWP1Otc%3D&reserved=0 Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much. Greg Tuckman Phoenix, Arizona USA
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