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Re: Impossible Brick Wall Next Steps DRAY? #usa

Michele Lock
 

You could contact the Baltimore County Genealogical Society, to find out what vital records are available for Baltimore city, and how to go about ordering them. You could also try emailing the Maryland State archives, to see what holdings they have for Baltimore; when I've emailed them, I've always gotten a reply in 2-3 days.

I do have a question for you - if you haven't been able to find any vital records for the 2nd great grandmother, how do you have the exact dates for her birth and death? Do you have some sort of record for these, or are they from family trees that others have put together.

In a related vein - if this woman had children born in the US in the 1850s and later, then there should be death certificates for those children, who I would assume died after 1900 or so. Those certificates should be obtainable, though you may have to order them for a fee from a state archive or other government agency. 
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Michele Lock

Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock and Kalon/Kolon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai, Lithuania
Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock in Plunge/Telsiai in Lithuania
Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman in Dotnuva, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine/Lev/Lew in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus


Jewish Agriculturalism in the Garden State #announcements #usa

Sherri Bobish
 

Hi 'Genners,

This may be of interest, especially to those who have ancestors who farmed in NJ and elsewhere.

Rutgers University will present a free talk via Zoom on
Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 1pm Eastern Standard Time.

The topic is:  Jewish Agriculturalism in the Garden State.

According to the announcement, to be discussed is farming,  "not only in New Jersey, but also the Americas, Europe, and Israel."

Link to register:
https://bildnercenter.rutgers.edu/events/upcoming-events/icalrepeat.detail/2021/10/21/91/-/jewish-agriculturalism-in-the-garden-state

From the above site:
"Bildner Visiting Scholar Jonathan Dekel-Chen will introduce a new online exhibit that he developed at Rutgers about the history of Jewish farming--not only in New Jersey, but also the Americas, Europe, and Israel. The exhibition takes a deep dive into the amazing story of Jewish agriculture in New Jersey, where three generations of Jews planted roots in a new country, made New Jersey bloom, and pursued the American dream. It also tells the important and striking story of large-scale Jewish farming on four continents."

I have no affiliation with this program, and have no further information.

Regards,

Sherri Bobish

Searching: RATOWSKY / CHAIMSON (Ariogala / Ragola, Lith.)
WALTZMAN / WALZMAN (Ustrzyki Dolne / Istryker, Pol.)
LEVY (Tyrawa Woloska, Pol.)
LEFFENFELD / LEFENFELD / FINK, KALTER (Daliowa/ Posada Jasliska, Pol.)
BOJDA / BERGER (Tarnobrzeg, Pol.)
SOKALSKY / SOLON / SOLAN / FINGER(MAN) (Grodek, Bialystok, Pol.)
BOBISH / APPEL (Odessa?)


Citing sources in family research #general

Ellen
 

What is the proper way to cite sources used in family research, when the sources are databases and spreadsheets containing transcribed and/or translated records?  For example:

  • Extracts of Latvian vital records of Lithuanian Jews, available to LitvakSIG contributors in Excel files 
  • Extracts from the 1897 All-Russian Census in Dvinsk, also in Excel, although the original records were digitized by the Latvian State Historical Archives and translated by the late Christine Usdin  
  • Records indexed in a JewishGen database - the originals are held by specific archives or listed as "not microfilmed"

Citing U.S. sources, like Census records and birth certificates, is relatively easy.  But when I'm not actually working from an original record, I'm not sure how to cite the source. 

Thanks.

Ellen Morosoff Pemrick 
Saratoga County, NY

Researching WEISSMAN/VAYSMAN (Ostropol, Ukraine); MOROZ and ESTRIN/ESTERKIN (Shklov & Bykhov, Belarus); LESSER/LESZEROVITZ, MAIMAN, and BARNETT/BEINHART/BERNHART (Lithuania/Latvia); and ROSENSWEIG/ROSENZWEIG, KIRSCHEN, and SCHWARTZ (Botosani, Romania)


Request for Old Photos from Jaroslaw #usa

ninaschw
 

Do you have any old photos taken of or by your relatives in Jaroslaw, Galicia/Poland? They are needed for the upcoming English edition of the Yizkor Book of Jaroslaw.

It is difficult to find good 1880-1940 photos online, and JewishGen cannot afford to license them from Getty Images, Alamy, USHMM, etc.

I am a volunteer graphic designer working with JewishGen. I am looking for photos that show:
1. The Jewish part of town, with Jewish buildings such as synagogues, study houses, the marketplace, shops, houses, schools, etc.
2. Groups of people, such as a class, Zionist group, professional group, or people at work or play.
3. Family groups (between 4 and 20 people).
4. Modern photos of the old Jewish area, if some old structures remain, such as synagogues, cemetery headstones, houses or other Jewish buildings. Or a panorama or aerial view of the town.

Although I cannot offer payment, for any pictures contributed, you will receive a prominent photo credit plus a free copy of the printed Yizkor book.

If you have old photos, please write to me at artstop@... for instructions on how to scan and send them. 

Many thanks for your kind help!

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Nina Schwartz
artstop@...


Re: Need photo of my Grandfather's grave at Canton Hebrew Cemetery Canton, Stark County, Ohio #photographs #usa

Dorann Cafaro
 

70% of The Canton Hebrew Cemetery has been photographed at findagrave.com. You can go tohttps://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/41348/canton-hebrew-cemetery and look for you relative or you can request a photo. At the moment 13 requests are posted and as a volunteer we usually will try to do all of them at one time. Also I encourage anyone who finds their memorial on findagrave to inform them of other relationships (spouses, parents, children, sibs) even if buried at a different cemetery as this help all of us connect.
 
Warm Regards Dorann Cafaro


Re: Tombstone translation #translation

Dubin, David M. MD
 

The Hebrew looks like it says efrayim yehuda, and that explains the German Leib (which means lion, which applies commonly to Judah, based on Jacob’s blessing from genesis). 

if the date is 30 in Shevat (to correspond with the secular date) then the stone says 30 in Shevat (ל בשבט) in Hebrew which makes sense also. 


david dubin
teaneck, nj


Mariánské Lázně (Czech Republic) marriage record 1927 #austria-czech

rosibal
 

I am seeking advice of how to find a civil marriage record from 1927; the town is or was also called Mariansbad.
 
I looked up the wiki for the Czeck Republic on familysearch and found these records: Czech Republic Civil Registers, 1874-1937 but when I clicked on it, I was not sure which registration office to use.
 
The couple was Naftali Kessler and Sara Hass - both from Lesko, Poland.
 
Thank you and hag sameach!
 
Shosh Eizenshtein,
 
KESSLER, BALBIRER, CHARAS - Lesko, Galicia
MITNIK, REKUN, KANTERMAN - Kherson, Podolia, Tarasha


Judenrats --- friend or foe? #holocaust

Sniderlh
 

Like many topics, this one is sure to be a "hot" one, but the more I read and study about the Judenrat, the more perplexed I am.  While I know there is no definitive answer, as things were different everywhere, I would like to know what others thoughts are, now, today.  First of all, how did the Nazis 'choose/select' people to form these groups in each community, especially those in less visible positions (such as secretaries)?  How long was a person likely to serve on one of these boards - a  set term, or until death)?  For those who did survive the war, how were they later treated by others who might have known they were part of a Judenrat?  Would they have kept such knowledge quiet? (And yes, I know many people never ever spoke about their war experiences.) 

It seems there are many new books being published, bringing new details and information about various situations &  wartime events, to light.  While some only make brief mention of the Judenrat, some outright castigate them all, and present them as the worst of the worst Jews.  I am sure people who served in these groups :  a. didn't have any choice in the matter,  b. some likely thought they could save family members in doing so,  c. and as with other situations, some relished the power they perceived having. Is there any real consensus about this, or is that even possible? Were some areas better/worse than others in how the Judenrat dealt with their given communities?  Of course, those who had family members directly affected in some way by the Judenrat, or who had been part of a group, probably have very different feelings (good and/or bad) than others who don't. There are many more knowledgeable people out there, and I would appreciate hearing what some of the many opinions on this matter. 

Thank you.
--
Leah Heilpern Snider
Silverdale, Washington/ USA


Seeking descendants of Mary Eunice (nee Glaser) Silgofsky #usa

mwbarra@...
 

Seeking descendants of Mary Eunice (nee Glaser) Silgofsky
Mary Glaser was born in Baltimore, MD ca. 1911; died in Georgia 1994
Mary Glaser was briefly married to George Barrash 1941, his death.
Thank you,
Marvin Barrash


Searching for Plotkin Relatives of Jeanette Barrash of Richmond, VA #usa

Marvin Barrash
 

In search of relatives of the Jeanette (nee Klein) Barrash (1907-1940) of Richmond, VA.

Jean Klein was married to George Barrash and was the mother of Stewart Barrash.
Jean’s sister was Sylvia Plotkin, wife of Max Plotkin also of Richmond.

Thank you.

 

Marvin Barrash


Re: Rose Edith Ostroff #usa

Sherri Bobish
 

Hi Steve,

Might be George D. Vezeau,

Rose E. Vezeau, born 24 Jun 1913 passed on 14 Mar 1999, her last residence
Cottonwood, Yavapai, Arizona, USA.

On the Los Angeles 1952 voter registrations there is
Rose E. Vezeau and George D. Vezeau
both at 3231 Sunset Blvd.

There were other women named Rose Vezeau, so I am not certain this is the right one, but it looks possible, given the middle initial.  So, her husband may have been George Vezeau.  There were several men with this name, so hard to pin down who he was.

There is an obit dated
20 May 1991 in The Philadelphia Inquirer. Rose Vezeau and her sister Bertha Ostroff are named.  I do not have access to the actual obit page.

Source Citation

The Philadelphia Inquirer; Publication Date: 20 May 1991; Publication Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA; URL: https://www.newspapers.com/image/176357455/?article=58092c99-d52e-491b-8a2a-ba37399f6fe5&focus=0.6582137,0.64106244,0.8118047,0.67729545&xid=3355

Good luck,

Sherri Bobish

   
   
   

   
   
   
   
   
   
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Re: WEINTRAUB, BARTNOFSKY in Mogilev, Belarus #belarus

Marcia Lloyd
 

Hi, Rishy,
Thanks for your reply. A Mr. Nolan recently contacted me with Barnofsky from Wolkowsk, and his grandmother, Anna Bela Bartnofsky (not her married name)  and her family lived on Rodney Street in Brooklyn just a few houses down the street from 371 Rodney Street, where Bessie Bartnofsky Weintraub, my paternal grandmother, lived with my grandfather, Jacob Weintraub, and their family. In Europe, she and Jacob lived min Mogilev, Belarus, but she may not have been born there. Moreover, Anna Bela was born in 1864, and Bessie in about 1861, so I thought they might have been sisters, but Mr. Nolan never heard of Bessie, so he thinks that perhaps they were only cousins, but I still have my doubts.

What else do you know about the Barnofskys? Any photos?

Best,
Marcia Lloyd


Re: Need photo of my Grandfather's grave at Canton Hebrew Cemetery Canton, Stark County, Ohio #photographs #usa

dasw5@...
 

You can also check JOWBR

It would be helpful if you give your grandfather's name and date of death so those who belong to fee based sites can check 

Dassy Wilen
dasw5@...


Re: Hungarianization of last names in Hungary, 1890s #hungary

Agbriggs@...
 

I’m not sure how my grandfather from Hungary’s family name changed from the Jewish “Loevinger” to the Hungarianized “Lanye”.  It’s an interesting question.  We always thought the name was changed to prevent anti Semitic treatment, not that it was encouraged.  We thought it was picked by my ancestors because it was the Hungarian equivalent of “Smith” a typical/generic name.

Andrea Gilles Briggs
Beverly Hills, Michigan


In search of relatives of the Jeanette (nee Klein) Barrash - Richmond, VA #usa

mwbarra@...
 

In search of relatives of the Jeanette (nee Klein) Barrash (1907-1940) of Richmond, VA.

Jean Klein was married to George Barrash and was the mother of Stewart Barrash.
Jean’s sister was Sylvia Plotkin, wife of Max Plotkin also of Richmond.

Thank you.

 

Marvin Barrash

 


Re: Archival photographs of Bialystok Jewish life, pre-1930 #poland #photographs

Bernard Flam
 

Hi from Paris,
Dear Steve,
May I take opportunity of your post to offer free download of pictures from 2013' Bialystok exhibition "Bilismy tu, We were there".
I was there for a few days in October 2013, amid a large tour of Poland.

This exhibition was organized by the city of Bialystok for commemoration of 70' years of ghetto liquidation with :
  • a section inside the museum, Jewish life in Bialystok before Shoah / Holocaust
  • and a section outside on panels on pavements around the museum, dedicated to the liquidation of the ghetto in 1943. I took pictures of all these panels with good resolution for each separate picture (ca 100).
As this exhibition is covered by some copyright and all pictures are too large to attach on this post (I attach just the billboard), I will send the batch by Wetransfer, contact me by private mail.
Khavershaft
Bernard Flam
Archives & history of Medem Center - Arbeter Ring (Bund / Workmen Circle of France)


Re: Hungarianization of last names in Hungary, 1890s #hungary

Peter Cherna
 

If you look at the name change records, there is a very large amount of variation. It doesn't seem like most people were constrained to a list.

It was fairly common to choose name with the same first letter or first sound, which is a plausible way that Goldmann could become Gondos.

In my family's case, Grunfeld became Cserna because the family head who made the decision apparently chose to honor his father's birth town (Csernye, which is now Bakonycsernye). 

Often but not always, members of a family jointly or sequentially adopted the same name.

A PDF scan of a book of name changes with a huge number of entries is at 

http://mek.oszk.hu/07400/07431/07431.pdf -- sorted alphabetically by new name.

These also seem to be searchable at macse.hu

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Peter Cherna, Exton PA (peter@...)
Researching CSERNA (Budapest, Székesfehérvár), GRUNFELD (Székesfehérvár), BRAUN, REINER (Budapest, Nyíregyháza, Máriapócs), EHRENFELD (Pozsony, Balassagyarmat) BRACK (Ipolykeszi)


Jewish War Veteran Research #general #events

Jeff Miller
 

In researching a Jewish Naval veteran who served for 27 years from WWII thru Vietnam who had many battle ribbons, how best to learn where he served and what battles he was in? 
Is there a Navy archive or Jewish Museum, or other resource besides the obvious requests that can be made through websites such as archives.gov or usa.gov?

Please send to my e-mail address any recommendation.
Thanks for suggestions and information,

Jeff Miller
Maryland
singingtm@...


Revoked German Citizenship and Property Seizures 1933-1945 #holocaust

Daniella Alyagon
 

Good afternoon, 

While searching JewishGen I came across this database https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/holocaust/RevokedGermanCitizenship.html 
How do I get a copy of the actual document (not the spreadsheet)?

Thank you,

Daniella Alyagon


This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #yizkorbooks #belarus #JewishGenUpdates

Bruce Drake
 

How did Jews earn a living in their towns in the years before World War I? That’s the question that’s asked — and then answered — in this section from a chapter from the Yizkor book of Drohitchin in Belarus. What makes this excerpt so readable is that is more than just a laundry list of occupations but a description of life that makes you feel you are there. The fairs and market days, with the hurly-burly of selling and buying, were a big part of making a living, and the writer notes wryly, “You could never even find such an assortment of merchandise and bargains in Woolworth's stores.”
 
Bakers and tavern-keepers particularly did well too, thanks to the peasants who came to town in a holiday mood. But some of them didn’t hold on to their earnings for very long. “It was easy for them to drink down a bottle of whisky all at once. By the time a peasant drank half a bottle, he had already forgotten how much it cost him, and often returned home to the village with empty pockets, after having drunk the value of a horse or other animal.”
 
 

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Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, MD

Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK
Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel

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