Re: Recent Discovery Sheds New Light on Messianic yDNA #general #dna

Boruch Fishman

This is very interesting work suggesting that the House of David is a superior Aryan line that joined the family of Abraham. We really need access to ancient DNA to learn more about this. I copied a complete genealogy of the House of David by an English author David Hodges, which Nasik Yose Dayan lent me from his library. There are so many ancient Rabbis with all male lineage from King David with probably intact graves that if we could sample their bones, we could really make progress in learning about the Davidic genealogy. Also, if we can get someone to sample DNA on Christian relics, we could make progress. According to the Jewish tradition, the father of Jesus was a Roman soldier named Pantera, and we could conceivably find hus haplotype via his son's DNA on the garments  Also, according to the book Yosi lent me, Jesus's mother was a princess of the House of David, and her cousin Joseph of Arimathea was a Prince of the House of David via the second wife of Prince Zerubabel. If there is a genuine relic from the crucifixion, we could potentially find three matching DNAs, the son, mother and cousin. The cousin"s DNA would provide a sample of Davidic DNA from 2,000 years ago.  

May we make progress soon!

Boruch Fishman MD

Family connection between Rattner of St Petersburg and Constantinople and Rosenstein of Vibesk #belarus #general

Trish Lane

I am trying to establish a connection between Izrail Rattner and Family from Mogilev born 1830 and Katharina Rosenstein nee Rattner born 1840 Constantinople.  David Rosenstein ,  Katharina's husband was born in Vitebsk in 1822.
Patricia Lane

Re: Looking to purchase copy of yizkor book for Slutsk #belarus #yizkorbooks


Check the New York Public Library, you can get there “print on demand” copy  if the have it and they have a lot of Izkor books.

Re: Is there a commemoration of the Rumbula Massacre? #latvia #holocaust

Todd Cohn

Riga - Nov. 30:  Jewish community commemoration at Rumbula.  Community Website.
Riga - TBD: There is also an event at which hundreds of candles are placed at the Freedom Monument, often on an adjacent date to the above. 
Israel - Virtual - Dec. 8 :  The Association of Latvian and Estonian Jews will have a virtual  commemoration this year, on YouTube 
New York -  Dec. 5: Jewish Survivors of Latvia annual program at 12 noon. Contact Ivar Brod <ivarbronya@...) .
Museum of Jewish Heritage in New York - Dec. 7, 2:00 pm NY time - Virtual (might also be in person):   Program on Rumbula's Echo and Rumbula in conjunction with the Boris Lurie art exhibition
The website for the documentary is   Its Facebook page is . A complete rough-cut (draft) of the documentary will be done late this autumn, and it is slated for completion in 2022. 

-Todd Cohn

family RASKIN in Yekaterinoslav (Dnipro) #ukraine #general


Part of my family moved around 1910 from Yelia, Khotimsk, Mogilev, Belarus, to Yekaterinoslav, to prepare for Imigration to Brazil.

Do you have information from family RASKIN in Yekaterinoslav (Dnipro) ?

Salmo Raskin

GONDELMAN and ELKIN in Israel #israel #general

Nardo Bonomi

Hallo researchers,

I am looking for the descendants of two brances of the family GONDELMAN
descendants of Genia (Yehudit) ELKIN born Gondelman died in Israel in 1977.

- descendants of David Gondelman son of Berko died in Tel-Aviv in 1974.

The family migrated from Moldova to Italy and then after WW2 to Israel.
Thank you

Nardo Bonomi Braverman
Greve in Chianti – Firenze – Italy
Researching on:
LUFT and GRUNBLATT from Kolomya
(Author of

Re: Zionist organisations Free City of Danzig 1930s #poland

tony allan

Hi My father was a member of BETAR in Danzig. Around 1934/5 it was attacked by the Nazi's and he was thrown out of the window. He managed to get out to England in 1936 but it left him with a weak heart.
Tony Allan (Golendziner)

Looking to purchase copy of yizkor book for Slutsk #belarus #yizkorbooks

Yehuda Rubin

I have contacted all the rare book stores that sell yizkor books, but it is out of stock. I don't think that the Yiddish Book Center is currently taking reprint orders; and I am looking to buy a copy. If anyone knows of a copy for sale, please let me know. Thank you.
(I am aware that it is in some libraries and accessible online, but I prefer a print copy for family records on my bookshelf.)
Yehuda Rubin
Lakewood, NJ
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Re: Rose Edith Ostroff #usa

Mike Coleman

Mike Coleman   London  U.K.

Searching for relatives of Dr Isaac Klein Haifa #israel



I am looking for any relatives of a Dr Isaac Klein born 06.04.1912 in Austria, a Viennese school friend of my late father Dr David Ropschitz.  Dr Klein was with my father in Ferramonti di Tarsia internment camp in Italy during WW2, becoming the Chief Medical Officer of Ferramonti after the allied liberation. After the war he emigrated to Israel in 1944 and as far as I know, lived out his days in Haifa, having lost his sight towards the end of his life. I am coming to the end of compiling a book of lifestories of survivors of Ferramonti and would like to find any relative who could add Dr Klein's story. He appears on many photos in my late father's possession. I have attached one where Dr Klein is seated in between my father and his friend Dr Friedmann, both of whose stories appear in the book. How nice it would be to complete the trio.

Please email me if you can help.
Many thanks

Yolanda Bentham

searching for KLEIN

Re: Revoked German Citizenship and Property Seizures 1933-1945 #holocaust

Lewis, Megan

Hello Daniella,

The book Rodney mentioned, Die Ausbürgerung deutscher Staatsangehoriger 1933-1945, is organized by the date the name appeared in the Reichsanzeiger.  Once you have the date searching the digital version is a lot easier.

If the people you seek were living in Germany, and thus listed in this book, send an email to reference@... with the full names of the people and mention you want us to specifically check this book.

Megan Lewis, USHMM librarian

Re: Report of Eye Witness to 1941 Erev Sukkot Nadworna Massacre #galicia #holocaust #poland #ukraine

Frank Schulaner

And the famous Big Bang Theory episode when the Polish American girl exclaims, "Our families [back in Poland] could've been neighbors" -- and only Mayim Bialik's character sees the sad irony there ("I'll explain later").

Frank Schulaner, Kealakekua HI

Bialystok Gymnasium Yitzhak Shamir. #belarus #rabbinic


My Paternal Great Grandmother was Ray Kaplan married to Nathan Bender (Bendetowicz) of Wolkowitz now Vaukoviysk, Belarus. Her family was associated with the Forming and teaching at the famous Bialystok Gymnasium. Supposedly, one of the Kaplan teachers was a favorite among the students including Yitzhak Shamir. My Dad's cousin Harold Goldray attended the reunion. I haven't been able to find records of the Kaplans in Poland, They may not have been born there. I don't know if we were related to all of them? There is also supposed to be a famous Rabbi in the family. I have a photo from the Reunion with Harold Goldray, Yitzhak Shamir, and others that helped form the State of Israel. Ray and Nathan supposedly had 18 children and they all lived! If there are any descendants or if anyone else has info on the Teachers & founders

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JGS Cleveland presents “The What and When of Immigration and Naturalization Records” with Marian Smith, Oct 6 at 7 PM ET #education #jgs-iajgs


Join the Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland for our next Zoom program on Wednesday, October 6, 7-8:30 pm ET - “The What and When of Immigration and Naturalization Records with Marian Smith.


Program: Marian Smith presents an overview of three historical eras of US immigration and naturalization records, illustrated with documents of Jewish immigrants. Using a timeline tool (included in the handout), she demonstrates how plotting an immigrant’s life events can identify what records may exist for that particular immigrant and where these records can be found.


Speaker: Marian Smith retired in 2018 after thirty years as an Historian for the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS), later US Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). She now occasionally speaks to groups on US immigration and nationality records and anxiously awaits returning to research at the National Archives.


Registration: Required and free - Send an email to rsvp@... by 12 Noon EDT on Sep 1st to receive a Zoom link.  If you are NOT a JGS Cleveland member, please include your name, email, and complete mailing address.




Go to for more program, speaker, and membership information.




Contact: Deborah A. Katz, JD, PhD

Vice President, Programming

JGS Cleveland

Information on Shifra Crounse and Yafa Cohen written about in The Ladies Home Journal, September 1967. #ukraine #israel

Rosanne O'Reilly

I am looking for Yafa Cohen and Shifra Crounse for a friend who met them when she was little.

The Women were written about in The Ladies Home Journal, September 1967.  The article was called “The Girls who fought for Israel” by Leon Uris. 

I have checked,, and  Since I don’t read Hebrew, I am unable to check other sources.

Shifra Crounse was born in 1947 Rovno, Ukraine to Zvi and Gina Crouse. 

Yafa Cohen was born in 1948 in Israel, to Eliahu Cohen from Morocco and Lavana Cohen from Bagdad, Iraq.

Either or both could be married or dead.

I appreciate any help given.  I will forward the information to my friend.

Rosanne OReilly


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Re: Citing sources in family research #general

Marion Werle

Marlise is absolutely correct, but I would also add that genealogical best practices say to obtain (and have translated, if necessary) a copy of the underlying record for the database or spreadsheet entry,. Database records are derivative records (derived from an underlying original source) and are subject to errors. Many/most of the Lithianian metrical records ((vital records) are available on FamilySearch and the Dvinsk crensus records from the Latvian Archives are digitized on either the Latvian Archives ' Raduraksti website or on FamilySearch. See, the sections on Raduraksti  and FamilySearch, on how to find original copies of Latvian census records. For the Lithuanian  records see the LivakSIG website

In general, just because the database states "not microfilmed" doesn't necessarily mean there isn't a digital copy, so double check (for LivakSIG only the State Hidtorical Archives in Vilnius - LVIA -  has records that have been filmed). You can also contact the various archives directly for original copies.

The citations would then follow the Evidence Explained (book version) guidelines for citing archival documents. The Evidence Explained website cited by Marlise also has examples for citing FamilySearch unindexed records. 

Hope that helps.

Marion Werle

Re: Jewish War Veteran Research #general #events


Try "The National Museum of American Jewish Military History" 

Mon – Fri: 9AM to 5PM
Open Sunday by appointment only for 6 or more people

Walter Spector
Philadelphia PA
SPECTOR- Zaslov (Izyaslov) Volhynia Gub. Ukraine-Woodbine NJ-Phila. PA;
EBY (AB)-  Rushany, Grodno Gub. Belarus-Woodbine NJ- Phila.PA;       
BECKER-  Klevan, Rovno Phila. PA Brooklyn NY:   GREENSTEIN-Boston MA:
SELTZER (ZELTZER)Rovno, Klevan, Alexandria; Poland-Brooklyn NY
PITKOWSKI Rushany, Grodno Gub. STEINBERG –Los Angeles CA  ROTHSTEIN (Rotstein)  Phila. PA;
Rudofsky BostonTry 

Re: Torah scroll the Nazis Stole for their post-Holocaust 'Jewish museum' Returns to Service in Prague #austria-czech #holocaust

AJ <the_ravaj@...>

Regarding the history of the Czech scrolls cared for currently by the Memorial Scrolls Trust in London, UK, please see the definitive history by Magda Veselska ( The JTA article is woefully inaccurate, and perpetuates unproven theories about why the scrolls came to Prague and the purpose behind their collection. 
AJ Friedlander

Meeting reminder: October 13 Zoom program by JGSPBC “How an Ashkenazi-Litvak traced his ancestry back 2,000 years.

Walter Rosenthal

A reminder:  October 13 Zoom program by JGSPBC “How an Ashkenazi-Litvak traced his ancestry back 2,000 years.

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Palm Beach County will host a Zoom program on Wednesday, October 13 at 1:00PM ET  “ How an Ashkenazi-Litvak traced his ancestry back 2,000 years to Israel” presented by Dr. Harold Rhode

Harold Rhode PhD, worked as an analyst at the Pentagon for 28 years. During his tenure as Desk Officer in the Office of the Secretary of Defense, he  specialized in Turkey, Iran, Iraq and other Middle East issues.  In his presentation, he will combine family lore, documentary evidence and interviews.  He will present a case that,  though Jews have wandered the world for 2,000 years, their ancient origins are in Israel.

This event is free to JGSPBC members, $5.00 for non-members. 

For members and guests, go to the JGSPBC website, click on the yellow REGISTER button and fill in the required information.  A zoom link will be sent to your email address before the event.  For more information, contact JGSPBC President, Ms. Ina Getzoff at 561-450-9577.

Walter Rosenthal

Looking for information/records about KLEGON family from "Dobrowice" Poland #poland #canada



I have been researching my great-grandfather Isaac Louis Klegon, and his family.  He came from Poland (born in 1878) around 1902 or 1903 (give or take) to Ottawa, Canada, became a naturalized Canadian citizen and then the family moved to Detroit, MI in 1923.  His papers for application for US Citizen ship, it lists his place of birth as Dobrowice, Poland (or Russia-Poland, depending on the document).

So far I have been unable to find many records of his immigration from Poland to Canada, and am particularly interested in any information what what this town in Poland might be called today, or if there is a different spelling, and if any records might still exist today?

Would be interested if anyone is doing similar research on this town in Poland  from 19th century, and/or of the Jews of Ottawa, Canada in the early 20th century.

Thank you!
Rob Klegon

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