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Translation from Polish requested #translation

Steven Usdansky
 

The image is from the birth record of Mindel, the daughter of my great grandfather's sister, Malie Namenwirth, and Jakob-Eliukim Lerner in Dabrowa Tarnowska in 1892. Knowing no Polish, and having a hard time reading the handwriting, the best I can do with Google translate is,"Wmysl 31. Fnstr. meter, the right of this child was encapsulated here on February 16, 1917. on the basis of the provided certificate of the legal marriage of these parents dzicoiw ddeto Dabrowa ol. February 16, 1917." I'd greatly appreciate a more coherent translation. Jumping to conclusions, I assumed this note indicated the legal recognition of Mindel as Jakob-Eliukim's daughter. Is that correct?

Thanks.


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Steven Usdansky
usdanskys@...
USDANSKY (Узданский): Turec, Kapyl, Klyetsk, Nyasvizh, Slutsk, Grosovo
SINIENSKI: Karelichy, Lyubcha, Navahrudak
NAMENWIRTH: Bobowa, Rzepiennik
SIGLER: "Minsk"


Re: route from Cherkassy, Ukraine to Manchester, England #general

rv Kaplan
 

My grandmother etc travelled from Kaminets-Podolsk, Ukraine in 1906 to Glasgow, Scotland in 1906 via Rotterdam, if that helps.

Harvey Kaplan
Glasgow

FELMAN, Kaminets-Podolsk, Shatava
ROSENBLOOM, Kaminets-Podolsk
MILER, Kaminets-Podolsk, Balin

On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 17:11, <estherahr@...> wrote:

 I am interested in knowing what route my grandmother's family took when they went from Cherkassy, Ukraine to Manchester, England in the end of the 19-beginning of the 20
]century. They did not have too much money and lived in a poor nieghborhood in Manchester Thank you, ESTHER

Esther (Herschamn) Rechtschafner
 
 
 
 
 


Hot Air Balloons Discussion _ Yiddish Postcards #general

Naomi Stone
 

Apropos the hot Air discussion:

Naomi Stone




Re: Using Wife's Surname For Immigration #general #names

Peter Cohen
 

My cousins and I worked for years to identify their grandfather whose name, in US documents, was the same as his wife's maiden name. His wife's family is well documented in the Lithuania records on jewishgen, but there was no sign of him.  Eventually, a complicated tale involving DNA led us to a person who turned out to be the grandfather's sister, whose maiden name was known,  Researching that name led to a family in Mexico who said "it's not our real name. Our ancestor was paid by a wealthy family to take this name and go into the military.  The timing of that event seemed to match the time when the grandfather took his wife's name and emigrated to the US. Not a smoking gun, but very likely.
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Peter Cohen
California


route from Cherkassy, Ukraine to Manchester, England #general

estherahr@...
 


 I am interested in knowing what route my grandmother's family took when they went from Cherkassy, Ukraine to Manchester, England in the end of the 19-beginning of the 20
]century. They did not have too much money and lived in a poor nieghborhood in Manchester Thank you, ESTHER

Esther (Herschamn) Rechtschafner
 
 
 
 
 


Re: Judenrats --- friend or foe? #holocaust

Bruce Drake
 

My knowledge on the topic comes primarily from the Yizkor book chapters I curate for the JewishGen Facebook page each Friday. There are accounts containing great bitterness towards the Judenrat as well as accounts where the Judenrat was doing what it could to ameliorate life under the Germans. Like all things human, there are good people and bad, weak and strong, evil and just, and  the range of people in the Judenrats was no exception. It also varied in terms of how tightly the screws the Germans put on in the places they occupied. You can find a few Yizkor book accounts if you search this archive, (using ctrl-F if you are on a PC):  https://bit.ly/3aCH1ak

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, MD


Re: Jews and Hot Air Balooning #general

Sidney Conn <sidneyconn@...>
 

This may not be the historical information that you were seeking but did you know that during the 1980s and up until about 2006, there were two manufacturers of hot air balloons in America? One was owned by Steve Hoffmann who lived in Virginia and the other belonged to my wife Elenor and me. Ours was called Firefly Balloons and it was located in Statesville NC, near Charlotte. A bit of history.....in 1980, El and I flew a balloon over the North Pole. It was an expedition dedicated to Commander Peary, the first to set foot on the Pole and to Salomon Andree, the Swedish leader of the Andree Polar Balloon Expedition of 1897. Andree and two scientists crashed on the ice and perished after almost 30 days. We finished Andree's expedition for him and planted the Swedish flag at the Pole. 

Sidney Conn
Birmingham Alabama


Major new Głowno records extraction project launched #announcements #names #lodz #poland #russia

 

Long-time Glowno area researchers will be pleased to learn that Jewish Records Indexing - Poland has undertaken a huge new Phase 3 project to fully extract all Glowno birth, marriage and death records from 1826 to 1913.  

Until now a basic index of births, marriages and deaths for the period 1877-1913 has been available.  To carry out this major initiative, we have acquired scans (digital images) of all surviving Glowno records in the Łódź branch of the Polish State Archives. With your help, we are now looking to produce detailed extractions of the records in our possession, which span nearly 100 years.

In addition, we would like to help Glowno researchers access other key sources including pre-1825 patronymic records and Glowno Books of Residents covering the period 1893-1931.

If you would like more information the Glowno Phase 3 Town Project, please sign up here.  Once you have subscribed, you will receive a full description of the project, explaining how you will be able to obtain extracts of records relating to your family. A qualifying donation of US$200 to the Glowno Phase 3 Town Project will ensure you are first in line to receive your family records as they become available and before they go online.  Details of how to donate can be found here (please indicate - Town Name: 'Glowno', Project Description or Special Instructions: Phase 3).

Any questions, please feel free to contact me directly.

Naomi Leon 

JRI-Poland Town Leader | Glowno & Lodz Area Research Coordinator


Re: JGSColorado presents "Donating your Family Papers? How, When, Where and Why"  and "New Strategies in German Jewish Research" with Karen S. Franklin #events #germany #education #records

Judy Petersen
 

CORRECTION!!!

     The correct date for Karen Franklin's program is Sunday October 10th.  All the other information is correct.
     We are so excited to have Karen, and you don't have to wait until December to see her!

                     Judy Petersen
                     VP of Programming
                     JGS of CO


Re: 23andMe Matches Workshop Monday Nov 8, 2021 1-4pm EDT #education #announcements #dna #jgs-iajgs #events

Arthur Sissman
 

Hi,

Still looking for 3 more people interested in learning about the 23andMe Matches platform at 23andMe for this workshop.

Contact Arthur Sissman, see below, today!!!
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Regards,

Arthur Sissman

Jewish Genealogy SIG of Collier/Lee Co FL

genresearch13@...

genresearch13 @yahoo.com (copy and close space in email format to send email, if necessary)
954-328-3559

Join our FB page at Jewish Genealogy SIG: https://www.facebook.com/groups/hellojewishgen

Genealogy Wise page: http://www.genealogywise.com/profile/ArthurSissman

 

Researching: ZISMAN/ZYSMAN/ZUSMAN (Belarus); TELESHEVSKY (Belarus); CHANUTIN, (W. Russia), BRODY, (Hungary); FRIEDMAN, (Hungary); GRAUBARD, (Romania/Ukraine)

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Re: Tuberculosis Sanitoria #usa #general

Michael Good
 

My maternal grandmother was a patient at the Workmen's Circle Sanatorium in the 1930s and her eldest son was a patient at the Jewish Consumptives' Relief Society in the 1940s. I have visited both of them (now serving other uses) and was able to find the places where certain family photos were taken at each one.

JCRS was open through the early 1950s. As mentioned, there are JCRS records online. but I don't know of anything from Workmen's Circle. We figured that one out from letters my Mom saved that had the sanatorium address, and from asking people who were familiar with Loomis and another sanatoria in the Liberty area.

Best regards,

Michael Good
California


Losing Plaintiffs Ask for Post-Appeal Motion Against Ancestry in Right to Publicity Case #records #usa

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

On June 16, 2021 the IAJGS Records Access Alert posted about  Ancestry’s Yearbook Collection class action lawsuit being dismissed with prejudice. The litigation alleged Ancestry amassed photographs, names, likenesses and identities without permission to sell subscription access to the information and advertise Ancestry services and products—their Yearbook Collection. The plaintiffs alleged Ancestry’s conduct was illegal and their privacy rights were violated.

 

“In a 12-page order, the judge wrote that for a suit like this to succeed, those bringing it would have to show how Ancestry’s operation of its database resulted in actual injury to those whose pictures and information are stored within it.”  The judge found the amended complaint failed to do so.  ““The cases recognizing mental anguish all involve other injury,” she wrote. “There is only mental anguish here, and alone, it is not injury in fact.”

 

In the June order, the Court also found the yearbook pictures are not private enough to warrant special protections. The judge also stated, Ancestry came by the photos in part through donations from former students, and a reasonable person would assume that it was donated to the genealogy company to help with their services — including for publication and marketing. Given the low expectation of privacy for photos like that, she found the company had a right to use them.

 

Dick Eastman in the Eastman’s Online Genealogy Newsletter posted about a post-appeal motion ruling filed in Ancestry’s right to publicity case, TransUnion LLC v Ramirez. The case was originally dismissed with prejudice, which means it cannot be reopened, but the post-appeal motion asserts an “intervening change in controlling law”. 

 

The motion can be read at:

https://www.docketalarm.com/cases/California_Northern_District_Court/3--20-cv-08437/Callahan_et_al_v._Ancestry.com_Inc._et_al/57/

 

To read Eastman’s Newsletter article see: https://www.eogn.com/page-18080/11125798


For more information see: https://lawstreetmedia.com/tech/post-appeal-motion-for-indicative-ruling-filed-in-ancestry-com-right-to-publicity-case/

 

To read the previous postings about Section 230, big technology, privacy issues and more go to the archives of the IAJGS Records Access Alert at:  http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts/.   You must be registered to access the archives.  To register go to: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/listinfo/records-access-alerts and follow the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which genealogical organization with whom you are affiliated   You will receive an email response that you have to reply to or the subscription will not be finalized.

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 

 


JGS-Montreal presents Michael Tobias #announcements #dna #germany #records

Victoria Barkoff
 

 

JGS-Montreal presents Michael Tobias

October 4 at 7:30 PM EDT 

Ich bin ein Berliner

JRI-Poland and DNA Matches

Unite 5 Half-siblings from 4 Different Mothers

live stream: https://youtu.be/4uOb5PKrtwE

optional donation: https://jgs-montreal.org/support.html#donations


The paper trail and the DNA trail working together to connect a family

 

Posted by Victoria Barkoff for JGS-Montreal

 


Demoing Brick Walls – Lessons Learned from Researching Twelve Mystery Families #dna #education #general #rabbinic

Jeffrey Mark Paull
 

If you are a Jewish genealogist, chances are you have encountered the dreaded brick wall – the seemingly impenetrable barrier beyond which lie untold generations of unknown ancestors who represent a proud Jewish heritage that has become shrouded in mystery.

 

There are many causes for these genealogical barriers – the pogroms of the late 1800s and early 1900s in Czarist Russia, WW-I, the Russian Revolution, WW-II, and the Holocaust – to name just a few.  These traumatic events were followed by mass immigration to America and other countries, through which families were split, communication pathways between different generations of family members were disrupted, and more information was lost.

 

The incalculable loss of life resulting from these traumatic events, combined with the destruction of Jewish synagogues and cultural and religious institutions, has left a huge information void in its wake, and much Jewish genealogical information has been lost or destroyed.  This has resulted in many American Jews losing contact with their ancestral origins.

 

If the 19th and 20th centuries represented a period of loss of Jewish cultural and genealogical repositories of information and knowledge, the 21st century, with its technological advancements in genetic genealogy, and the promise of global online access to genealogical information databases, offers opportunities for rediscovering our ancestral origins, and for recovering at least a part of our lost Jewish heritage.

 

As Jewish genealogical researchers, we wondered what it would be like if we tried to demolish some of these brick walls. Could it be done, and if so, how?  We decided to embark on such a research study by focusing on a dozen families who all shared one thing in common – they all claimed descent from Rebbe Yehuda Leib of Shpola, a famed 18th-century tzaddik and early Chassidic leader in the Russian Empire (now Ukraine) better known as the Shpoler Zeida. 

 

Although eleven of the twelve families had an oral history of descent from the Shpoler Zeida, none of them had a family tree or yichus document showing precisely how they descend from him.  The remaining family was unaware that they are descendants. We coined the term “mystery families” for these twelve families since how they descend from the Shpoler Zeida was a mystery.

 

In studying these mystery families, we began with the concept of being inclusive and accepted their family histories of being descendants of the Shpoler Zelda as genuine.  We then started with what the family knew about their ancestry and did our best to reconstruct their line of descent by thoroughly researching the paper trail. Our research enabled us to fill in the gaps in the lineage, connect the key ancestor to the Zeida lineage, and confirm the line of descent from the Shpoler Zeida for two of the twelve mystery families.

 

For five other mystery families, we present plausible hypotheses for how these families connect to the Shpoler Zeida’s family tree, based upon the available evidence while indicating the limitations and uncertainties involving their hypothesized connections.  Although we believe that we solved the mystery of how they connect to the Shpoler Zeida, their lines of descent should be considered provisional or conditional until they can be validated and confirmed.

 

For another five mystery families, we could not fill every gap in the lineage or identify every ancestral link in the chain with complete certainty, and the resultant uncertainty in their lineage prevents us from connecting their descendants to the Shpoler Zeida family tree at the present time. We reconstructed their line of descent to the extent possible, in the hope that making this information more widely available will result in a key piece of evidence being discovered which will help bridge the remaining gaps in their lineage.

 

In looking back over the lessons learned over the course of our research, we found that if we assembled all of the available information regarding what was known about each lineage, and then targeted our research toward filling in the remaining data gaps, we were often successful in reconstructing the line of descent.  Often, one key document or piece of evidence, such as a Y-DNA genetic match, a census record, a birth record, a tombstone inscription, or a naturalization petition, served to unlock the door and enabled us to reconstruct the line of descent.  Sometimes, the smallest detail, such as an obscure article in a Hebrew newspaper, or an entry in a family member’s biography, was enough to cause the wall to crumble.

 

We are planning to publish all twelve of these genealogical research studies, the first two of which have already been posted to Academia.edu: “Solving the Mystery of the Greenberg Family’s Descent from the Shpoler Zeida,” and “Solving the Mystery of the Polonsky Family’s Descent from the Shpoler Zeida.”  We hope that the research methods provided in these research studies provide a useful model for other Jewish genealogists to follow.  Here are the links:

 

https://www.academia.edu/53335989/Solving_the_Mystery_of_the_Polonsky_Familys_Descent_from_the_Shpoler_Zeida

https://www.academia.edu/49489143/Solving_the_Mystery_of_the_Greenberg_Familys_Descent_from_the_Shpoler_Zeida

Dr. Jeffrey Mark Paull, Dr. Jeffrey Briskman, and Susan K. Steeble

jmpaull@... 


Re: PLOTKIN: Bischoff (Biechof), Moliger: Ukraine or Belarus? #russia

Sherri Bobish
 

Norman,

I looked at his nat paper, and my guess' are:
Either Bykhaw or Byalynichy in the region of Mogilev.

https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-1945803
Mahilyow [Bel], Mogilev [Rus], Molev [Yid], Mohylew [Ger, Pol], Mohyliv [Ukr], Mogiliovas [Lith], Mohylów, Mogilew, Mahileu, Mohilev, Mahiliou, Mogilyov, Mohliv, Mogilev-na-Dniepr
Region: Mogilev

https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-1941219
Byalynichy [Bel], Belynichi [Rus], Belinitch [Yid], Białynicze [Pol], Białyničy [Bel], Bjalynicy, Bialynichy, Byelinichi
Region: Mogilev

https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-1942018
Bykhaw [Bel], Bykhov [Rus], Bichov [Yid], Bikhov Yashan [Heb], Bychów [Pol], Alt-Bikhev, Staryy Bykhov, Stary Bychów, Bychov, Bychaw, Bychaŭ
Region: Mogilev

Also, Kijon looks like Kiyow on the nat paper.  That is just a poor spelling of what Kiev sounded like to the clerk. 

Take into consideration that the clerk had to write down the current year and Jake's age and do the math on paper to figure out his year of birth.

My guess is that neither spelling nor math was this clerk's strong point.

Good luck in your search,

Sherri Bobish

Searching: RATOWSKY / CHAIMSON (Ariogala / Ragola, Lith.)
WALTZMAN / WALZMAN (Ustrzyki Dolne / Istryker, Pol.)
LEVY (Tyrawa Woloska, Pol.)
LEFFENFELD / LEFENFELD / FINK, KALTER (Daliowa/ Posada Jasliska, Pol.)
BOJDA / BERGER (Tarnobrzeg, Pol.)
SOKALSKY / SOLON / SOLAN / FINGER(MAN) (Grodek, Bialystok, Pol.)
BOBISH / APPEL (Odessa?)


Re: What's this number on a passenger list? #records

Sherri Bobish
 

Erika,

It is a reference to naturalization that was written in on the manifest years later.

Good luck in your search,

Sherri Bobish

Searching: RATOWSKY / CHAIMSON (Ariogala / Ragola, Lith.)
WALTZMAN / WALZMAN (Ustrzyki Dolne / Istryker, Pol.)
LEVY (Tyrawa Woloska, Pol.)
LEFFENFELD / LEFENFELD / FINK, KALTER (Daliowa/ Posada Jasliska, Pol.)
BOJDA / BERGER (Tarnobrzeg, Pol.)
SOKALSKY / SOLON / SOLAN / FINGER(MAN) (Grodek, Bialystok, Pol.)
BOBISH / APPEL (Odessa?)


Re: Judenrats --- friend or foe? #holocaust

Sniderlh
 

Hi Susan,

You are so right about not judging others when one hasn't been in their situation, and not knowing the "complete picture" of such events.  That's part of our undertaking with genealogy, I feel, being able to accept/deal with whatever one might uncover.  Records, or not, I don't think it's appropriate to judge past events by today's standards (which seem pretty fuzzy anyway).  Hindsight is quite clear compared to living something in the moment.  I am often wondering and asking myself how I might have dealt with living through many past events.

Thanks for your input.
--
Leah Heilpern Snider
Silverdale, Washington/ USA


Re: Using Wife's Surname For Immigration #general #names

Sherri Bobish
 

Carl,

The same situation is seen in my husband's family from Gorodek near Bialystok.

He used his wife's surname for several years after arrival, and then changed the surname.  His brother used their father's surname.  They both arrived in The U.S. in the mid-1880's.

In my family from Ustrzyki Dolne there is one person who used his mother's maiden surname, and that branch retains that name to this day.  His siblings all used their father's surname. 

So, why one sibling using the mother's maiden name, and the other siblings using the father's?  They all arrived in The U.S. within a few years of each other circa 1910's.

Does anyone have an explanation why this occurred with some immigrants?

Regards,

Sherri Bobish

Searching: RATOWSKY / CHAIMSON (Ariogala / Ragola, Lith.)
WALTZMAN / WALZMAN (Ustrzyki Dolne / Istryker, Pol.)
LEVY (Tyrawa Woloska, Pol.)
LEFFENFELD / LEFENFELD / FINK, KALTER (Daliowa/ Posada Jasliska, Pol.)
BOJDA / BERGER (Tarnobrzeg, Pol.)
SOKALSKY / SOLON / SOLAN / FINGER(MAN) (Grodek, Bialystok, Pol.)
BOBISH / APPEL (Odessa?)


Re: PLOTKIN: Bischoff (Biechof), Moliger: Ukraine or Belarus? #russia

Nancy Siegel
 

Norman - What you refer to as Bischoff might be Bykhov, Belarus, which has many different spellings. It is in the Mogilev Region.  My grandmother, Sarah ERLIN, was born in Bykhov — Staryy (Old) Bykhov is how she referred to it. Her brother Aaron married Chana Reiza PLOTKIN. They immigrated to America and settled in Buffalo, NY. Other PLOTKIN family members settled in Canada.

See JewishGen’s Communities Database and Gazetteer and search for Bykhov: https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/

See also: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/bykhov

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Nancy Siegel
San Francisco, CA
siegel.nancy99@...




Re: Polish Archives Loan Document #translation #poland

Steven Granek
 

A FOLLOW UP  - OTHER GUIDANCE??

First, thanks to David for the advice and kind offer.

II am wondering if anyone can point me to someone who knows a bit about the building history of Kalisz between the wars that might help me make sense of this (or even knows who in Kalisz I might write to to ask).  
 
I now have the reasonably well translated document referenced below (loan document for a construction project in Kalisz) . It has no additional information about my great Aunt and Uncle Temer and Chaim Adler (only that they borrowed just over 100,000 zlotys for the construction of a residential building at this address with gory details about each phase and the allocated amounts per phase).  Strangely, it has nothing about the terms (length or interest rate) or the address of the borrowers.
 
And there are some things about the dates that don’t make sense to me.  Specifically my conundrum is this:  They apparently acquired the “property” (quotes deliberate) in 1931 per the document.  The drawings/plans for construction were approved by what seems to be the planning council in 1938. It seems the loan was recorded n May of 1939 (timing!) - at least my relatives seem to have been optimists!
 
BUT -1) the description of the construction project seems to indicate that this is new construction 2) This is an attached - in row - building. 3) I have discovered in a book written by Mira Kimmelman that she talks about visiting (after the war with her son) this exact address (even down to the change of street names since then) and remembering that she’d have Passover there with her maternal grandparents in their modern apartment.  Which means that a relatively new apartment building was already there before the war. And since she describes it as modern, and it is my understanding that much of old Kalisz was destroyed in WW1 - it's hard to believe that my great aunt and uncle would be tearing down a 10-15 year old building with modern apartments in it and rebuild something very similar from scratch.  And needless to say - if they got the loan in May 1939 to build something from dirt - it did not get built by Sept 1, 1939 when the German Army crossed the border.
 
Possibilities 1) there is something that I am misunderstanding about the document 2) The addresses are confused (though her son says she had an incredible memory and went right to the place at that address).
 
I might add that Google maps street view has a clear picture at that address (the modern street name) of a building that looks materially the same as the one in the elevation drawings in the loan document.
 
Any insights appreciated.  I’ve been asked so I’ll make the point that my inquiries are not about any theoretical claim.   I could care less about that. I am trying to understand the life of my relatives - nothing more.
 
Steve Granek
Columbia, MD USA
Researching - GRANEK, ALPERT, EKSTAJN, ADLER, ISAACSON, OREM, ARONOWICZ.

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