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Re: IGRA Free Webinar “Immigration Documents to Eretz Israel” #events #israel

Peter Heilbrunn
 

Hi,

Perhaps a similar talk could be held in English. I am trying to trace an aunt who emigrated from Vienna in March 1933.
Peter Heilbrunn


Facial Comparison #photographs

Cindy g
 

Can anyone recommend a software program for a PC that does facial comparison? I would like to have the capability to compare people in my old photographs to verify their identity. I see programs for facial recognition, but I think what I need is facial comparison. 
Cindy Gallard


Re: Facial Comparison #photographs

Richard Werbin
 

Photoshop Elements does facial recognition to pick photos of matching people.
--
Richard Werbin    New York, New York     JGSNY Membership Vice President


ViewMate translation request - Russian #russia #translation #poland

Wendy Newman
 

Hi there,
I have posted a birth document for a Chaia Cypa Nudelman born in 1895 in Puławy, Poland.
 
It can be found on ViewMate at the following address:
 
I would appreciate greatly your help in translating and that you respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
 
Thank you so much!
Wendy Newman
researching Nudelman in Puławy


Yizkor Book Report for September 2021 #yizkorbooks #JewishGenUpdates

lackerfeld@...
 

Shalom,

 

Over the High Holiday period, the Yizkor Book Project continued its unstoppable momentum and a great deal of material was added and updated between the holidays.

 

To begin with, we received an additional two books that were graciously donated by Jack Berger (Jacob Solomon Berger) and we are in the process of adding them online. The books are: ‘The Dereczin Memorial Book’ on Derechin, Belarus and the ‘Wolkovisker Yizkor Book’, the latter being a trilogy based on the original Yizkor books that were published about the community of Volkovysk, Belarus. Naturally, we are very excited about receiving these considerable contributions to our project and very thankful to Jack Berger for enabling us to share them online.

As noted in my previous report, there are quite a few projects that are very close to completion and I am pleased to let you know that last month, three such projects were indeed completed.

 

The projects completed were:

 

  • Memorial Book of Kamenets Litovsk, Zastavye, and Colonies (Kamyanyets, Belarus) - This project was coordinated by and the book completely translated by Allen Flusberg. We thank Allen for his dedication, time and effort that he placed into this project.
  • The growth and destruction of the community of Uscilug (Ustilug, Ukraine) - The project was ably coordinated by Mitch Fahrer and the translations, in the main, were carried out by the tireless volunteer, Ala Gamulka, and additional translations were generously provided by Avigail Frij. We salute this amazing team for this important accomplishment.
  • Zelva Memorial Book (Zelva, Belarus) - This book was kindly donated to the Yizkor Book Project by Jack Berger.


As our goal is to make the material contained in the Yizkor books as widely accessible as possible, last month I was very pleased to receive Polish translations from sections of the
Przedecz, Poland Yizkor book and also French translations of sections from the Mińsk Mazowiecki, Poland Yizkor book. In this way, we are able to expose the Yizkor books to readers of these languages.

We continue to go forward with translating many Yizkor books from a wide variety of communities. To achieve this, we heavily rely on the financial support from people who wish to keep the memories of these communities alive. If you are able to be part of this effort, please check out the Translation Funds listing (link at the end) to see if there is a project you would like to be involved in which will assist us in realizing our goals.

 

And now for details of what was carried out in September:

 

Yizkor Book updates

This past month, 33 existing projects were updated:

·  Augustów, Poland (Memorial Book of the Community of Augustow and Region)

·  Babi Yaar, Ukraine (Memory Book: Babi Yar)

·  Biała Podlaska, Poland (Book of Biala Podlaska)

·  Dzyatlava, Belarus (A memorial to the Jewish community of Zhetel)

·  Edineţ, Moldova (Yad l'Yedinitz; memorial book for the Jewish community of Yedintzi, Bessarabia)

·  Hrubieszów, Poland (Memorial Book of Hrubieshov)

·  Jaroslaw, Poland (Jaroslaw Book: a Memorial to Our Town)

·  Kremenets, Ukraine (Memorial Book of Kremenets, Vyshgorodok, and Pochayiv)

·  Krynki, Poland (Memorial Book of Krynki)

·  Lithuania (Lithuania)

·  Lviv, Ukraine (A memorial library of countries and communities, Poland Series: Lwow Volume)

·  Mahilyow, Belarus (25th Anniversary Book of the Moghileff Brotherhood) 

·  Mlyniv, Ukraine (Mlynov-Muravica Memorial Book)

·  Ostrowiec Świętokrzyski, Poland (Ostrowiec; a monument on the ruins of an annihilated Jewish community)

·  Przedecz, Poland (Memorial book to the Holocaust victims of the city of Pshaytsh)

·  Radom, Poland (The book of Radom)

·  Radomsko, Poland (Memorial book of the community of Radomsk and vicinity)

·  Sarny, Ukraine (Memorial Book of the Community of Sarny)

·  Shums'k, Ukraine (Szumsk, memorial book of the martyrs of Szumsk)

·  Siedlce, Poland (On the ruins of my home; the destruction of Siedlce)

·  Siedlce, Poland (Memorial Book of the Community of Siedlce)

·  Sokołów Podlaski, Poland (Memorial Book Sokolow-Podlask)

·  Stowbtsy, Belarus (Memorial volume of Steibtz-Swerznie and the neighboring villages Rubezhevitz, Derevna, Nalibok)

·  Tarnogród, Poland (Book of Tarnogrod; in memory of the destroyed Jewish community)

·  Tarnow, Poland (Tarnow; The Life and Destruction of a Jewish City)

·  Ustilug, Ukraine (The growth and destruction of the community of Uscilug)

·  Valozhyn, Belarus (Wolozin; the book of the city and of the Etz Hayyim Yeshiva)

·  Yavoriv, Ukraine (Swastika over Jaworow)

·  Zawiercie, Poland (Yizkor Book of the Holy Community of Zawiercie and Environs)

·  Zelva, Belarus (Zelva Memorial Book)

·  Zolochiv, Ukraine   (The City of Zloczow)

·  Żychlin, Poland (The memorial book of Zychlin)

·  Zyrardów, Poland (Memorial Book of Zyrardow, Amshinov and Viskit)


New entries


 

New books


The following four new books were placed online:

 

New Yizkor Book in Print

Pleased to let you know that the Yizkor Books in Print team have published an additional Yizkor book translation in September:

Kolomyya, Ukraine - Memorial Book of Kolomey

If you are interested in purchasing this book or any of the others that have been made available, please go to the YBIP main page using the link shown below. 


Important links

Before ending this report, here are some important links to note:

All the best,

Lance Ackerfeld

Director of Special Projects - Yizkor Books

JewishGen.org

lackerfeld@...

 


Re: Need help identifying my maternal grandfather #dna

rhode.bud@...
 

I haven't mastered triangulation, but in an endogamous population like Ashkenazi Jews, everyone's a cousin to everyone which makes DNA analysis  hard unless, in my family and friends' experience, you're talking above 200 cM if you're 100% Ashkenazi or above 100 cM if you're, for example, 50% Ashkenazi. With over 30,000 matches on FTDNA, one family member has 3 known/traceable matches (2nd & 3rd cousins) on her Polish side and none on her Belarussian side. And some of her known lines go back to 2nd or even 3rd ggparents.  Many matches suggest by location that they are one or two generations away from being a traceable 2nd or 3rd cousin, but the linkage is always elusive.  But one can get lucky and find that 400+ cM first cousin.  FTDNA has chromosome level and "in-common-with" analysis tools, but the trees are typically not as detailed as Ancestry.  Since you did Ancestry DNA, you probably have Raffele's naturalization petition (below) filed in Georgia where he lists Marie C Beneduce as his and common-law wife Anna's (born in Minsk) daughter.  Raffaele came over in 1906 from Naples as a single 17 year old, but the common law marriage means there's probably not a marriage certificate anywhere.  But Marie should have a birth certificate in Akron, maybe under her mother's name alone.  How many Marie's were born in Akron on March 29, 1914? A request to the city clerk might end up getting a mother's maiden name, and then you could track down her immigration ship manifest (allowing for all possible spellings of Anna/Hannah and of her surname) with a birth year of 1894.  That manifest MAY show nearest relative back in Minsk (some manifests have a page 2 that includes such info if it's not on page 1) or relatives with whom she's travelling.  Once you're working in Minsk records, the difficulties increase, but Jewishgen can help with that. Traditional genealogy records indicate Raffaele/Ralph remarried (Marie Giordano in Summit Co., Ohio in 1920) and had a NYC family, dying in 1931.  You may have covered all this ground in your research leading up to DNA as a last resort, but, if not, I think you have leads worth following.  (e.g. Marie C Beneduce may have applied for Social Security using form SSA-5  which should show mother's maiden name.)  Good luck.

 
--
David Davies
Barrington, RI
rhode.bud@...


Viewmate translation requests-Polish #translation

Frannyfish82@...
 

I’ve posted 2 vital records for which I need translations.  They are on ViewMate at the following addresses;
http://www.Jewish gen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM95452.
http://www.Jewish gen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM95451.



-- 
Fran Fisher


-- 
Fran Fisher


Facial Comparison #photographs

Cindy g
 

Can anyone recommend a software program for a PC that does facial comparison? I would like to have the capability to compare people in my old photographs to verify their identity. I see programs for facial recognition, but I think what I need is facial comparison. 
Cindy Gallard


JGSLI Virtual meeting on Sunday October 24 at 2:00 PM Eastern – Lara Diamond #announcements #education #subcarpathia #russia

Bonnie Birns
 

Hello all! The Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island is delighted to invite you to our October monthly meeting featuring our guest speaker, Lara Diamond.

 

JGSLI is extending the invitation to the broader genealogy community. We ask that you register in advance (see below). Please share with your friends!

Sunday, October 24th, 2:00 PM, via Zoom

Speaker: Lara Diamond
Topic: Researching Relatives in Subcarpathia and the Russian Empire

Beyond Vital Records: European borders were fluid, so records for one family were kept in many languages and stored in multiple locations. This talk looks at a case study for a family living in the Subcarpathian area now spanning the Ukraine/Romanian border and which was Hungary, Czechoslovakia & Romania, Hungary again, Soviet Union and Ukraine. Records from this area were kept in multiple languages and are held in many modern countries and archives in those countries. This large family was reconstructed using a variety of methods, including religious records, vital records, census enumerations, Holocaust documents, Yizkor books, DNA and more, bringing the family back to the 1700s and tracing distant cousins across the world.

 

Register for our Zoom meeting:

 

When: October 24, 2021 2:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

 

Register in advance for this meeting:
https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZcvce6grz8iE9DHzzjvvlT_8TryMOT_BoKJ

 

After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the meeting.

This webinar is free and open to the public.

 

I look forward to "seeing" you all then!

 

Bonnie Birns

president@...

President, Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island
Jericho, Long Island, NY researcher #59766


Re: Jill Anderson z"l untimely passing #lithuania #latvia

Linda Cantor
 

Jill was a member of our Rokiskis SIG (birds of a feather) as well as president of Litvak SIG.  She will be missed, both for her lovely person and her hard work.  Our condolences go to her family and friends.

Linda Cantor


Identifying ancestral town - current day Ukraine #ukraine

L Levy
 

HI!  I've been stuck with a brick wall on my Levy family branch for years, and have recently learned that the name they arrived with may have been Levkowitz/Lefkowitz.  I've found a manifest that is quite likely my great grandmother's arrival in Baltimore but the town name doesn't fit with anything I've located previously or anything I can find on JewishGen.
Here's a link to the manifest.  The town appears to be listed as Bapoli.  The father, Leizer, wrote Balta on his declaration of intent, but the completed naturalization has not been found after several USCIS searches and searches in PA, NC and NYC where he lived.  It's possible that he didn't complete the process. He dies in 1938. The second oldest daughter also died prematurely, and doesn't seem to have submitted social security documents, and the naturalization for the oldest daughter states that she was from Brokie.  I've found a likely cousin that came from Bogopol as well.  The constant here is the B!

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9S8-2V4W?i=54&cc=2018318&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A2CSQ-MJ6

Laura Levy
Seattle, WA

TZGELNITSKI Lida

MEEROWITZ/MEIEROWITZ/MOORE  Smorgon, Vilna, New York

CHALAWSKY/SHELOFF Minsk

BELY/BELLER  Niezhin

EISENBERG  Wasylkowce

LEVY Balta, Brokie


ViewMate translation request - Russian #russia #translation #poland

Greg Tuckman
 

Hello everyone,
I've posted 5 vital records in Russian for which I need translations. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses ...

1.  Birth record of Abram Jakow GERTLER:  https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM95421&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1905331c69dc40299acf08d986a2bc7d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637688855769785775%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=soAAPTn1hy%2B52lW7X4pSdaIJrsnCOh%2F5IO6q%2Fq03qYc%3D&reserved=0

2.  Birth record of Mojzesz BLUMENSZTOK:  https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM95422&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca79ee9ab31db482962fa08d986a2bddd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637688855793072546%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=9HFiodgdhAtcXDSp2FgR4cJD2hu3V%2BlyTPF3%2FW0f0tM%3D&reserved=0

3.  Birth record of Zofia BLUMENSZTOK:  https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM95423&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0ada2ea33d3f4b663c6808d986a2bfb9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637688855828142619%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=W7tLMyZvJMG%2BaPShTz2Xf2I%2F%2F45QYrgUKZbcaUzSGGg%3D&reserved=0

4.  Marriage record of ROZENBAUM - BLUMENSZTOK:  https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM95424&data=04%7C01%7C%7C9d286f1491a64522e12008d986a2c114%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637688855857695841%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=V8JcstQPhnvgUNtfKL6NihSc3YjOZoPDnKBCNhGQEzo%3D&reserved=0

5.  Death record of Eta ROZENBAUM:  https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM95425&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cf6e2e687120340d76e8108d986a2c293%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637688855878534002%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=cKh30%2B7MpCorxgHKYnrQDgmO%2FCYFHkTMng39pzIhY%2B0%3D&reserved=0

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.
Greg Tuckman
Phoenix, Arizona USA


WW 1 Service Record - Documentation #usa #general

Helen Kon
 

Hello. Where can I find documentation of military service for Jewish WW1 veterans? Specifically, my maternal grandfather, Saul Torten (Grünberg), was born in Podhajce, Galicia. He served in World War One, according to my mother was stationed in Niederösttereich & was wounded. He was left with a body full of shrapnel.  We do not have documentation of his service.
I had tried to look in LDS in NYC decades ago but they wanted a lot of information, such as battalion which I didn't & still don't have.
By 1915 Saul's parents had already resettled in Vienna & Saul went on to pursue higher education, marriage & fatherhood pre- world war II in Vienna.
We have some documentation of these events.
Other than the shrapnel my mom never had much first hand information about her father, as he died after a very trying & circuitous route to NYC when mom was a child.
I thank you for any help that you can offer in finding this documentation.
--
Helen Kon
New York City, NY


Re: Need help identifying my maternal grandfather #dna

Michele Lock
 

My reference to 'delicate situations' in regards to a person trying to identify an unknown grandparent or parent - what can happen is that if a potential biological relative is contacted by a searcher, and the potential relative has no interest in helping sort out the mystery, it has happened that such a biological relative may cease all contact, remove their DNA accounts from wherever they tested, and take down their online family tree, thus making it that much harder for the searcher to solve the mystery.  The Jewish DNA facebook group has advice on how to minimize this from happening, and how to be respectful when approaching potential biological relatives.

I sense from the original poster's question that he is not interested in trying to prove he is Jewish halachically, only he is wishing to learn more about his biological grandparents.

Though in a related vein - I have a maternal first cousin here in the US who has a daughter who recently married a man who is Modern Orthodox. The groom's mother demanded that my first cousin prove she is Jewish, and DNA was not an option. Luckily, my first cousin is also into genealogy, and already had gravestone photos of our strictly maternal line, going back three generations, all with Hebrew names and burial in Jewish cemeteries. My cousin later said that the rabbi from the Orthodox synagogue who performed the ceremony was embarrassed that this had happened. 

And thanks to Jewishgen, AncestryDNA and New York City death certificates, I've been able to take our strictly maternal line back another 2 generations, to a woman named Sarah Shloimovitch of Lida/Lyubcha Belarus, born approximately 1820.

--
Michele Lock

Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock and Kalon/Kolon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai, Lithuania
Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock in Plunge/Telsiai in Lithuania
Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman in Dotnuva, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine/Lev/Lew in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus


Help needed researching Polish holocaust survivor #poland #holocaust

Guy Chazan
 

Hi there,
I was wondering if JewishGen members could help me with research I am trying to carry out on a man called Mojzesz Drukarz, who was born in Poland in 1924, survived the Holocaust and emigrated to Palestine after the war, later moving to London, where he died in 1987. 
He was a friend of our family and I am doing research for a book in which I am trying to reconstruct his history. He also went by the name of Moshe, Mosze and Mosche. When he emigrated from Poland he changed his name from Drukarz to Drukash. 
I am trying to find birth records for him, and for the rest of his family, and to find out what happened to his other family members. I believe most of them died in the Holocaust. I would also like to try to find out what he did during the war, if there are any records - he told us he joined a partisan group in the forests. 
We have unearthed various documents which show his date of birth as either 10.5.1924 or 10.5.1926.
He is listed in the US Holocaust Memorial Museum database of Holocaust Survivors and Victims as:
Mojzesz Drukarz, born in 1924. His mother is named as Brucha Birenbaum, his father as Josef. His prewar address is listed as Sliska 27, Warsaw, and his postwar address as Targowa 7, Warsaw. On another card his mother's name is given as Brandla Birenbaum, in yet another as Branda. We believe Brandla/Branda/Brucha was born in c. 1908.
Is there anyone at JewishGen who might be able to help with this?  
#poland 
#drukarz
best regards, Guy Chazan
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JGS Toronto. Free Virtual Meeting. Jacob and the Mandolin Adventure. Anne Dublin. Wednesday, 27 October 2021, at 7:30 p.m. ET.

Jerry Scherer
 

JEWISH GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY OF TORONTO

 

Jacob and the Mandolin Adventure

Jewish Orphans from Poland to Ontario

 

Speaker: Anne Dublin

 

VIRTUAL MEETING: Join from Home

 

Wednesday, 27 October 2021, at 7:30 p.m. ET.

 

 

 

PRESENTATION: Anne Dublin will speak about researching and writing her historical novel for young people, Jacob and the Mandolin Adventure (Second Story Press, 2021). Through an interactive PowerPoint presentation, Anne will describe the voyage of thirty-eight Jewish orphans from Poland to Georgetown, Ontario, in 1927, their lives at the Canadian Jewish Farm School, and their concert in Carnegie Hall, New York. The themes of friendship, antisemitism, and music are the threads that are interwoven in her presentation. This novel was inspired by historical events about Morris Saxe, who is sometimes called the “Canadian Schindler.”

 

 

 

 

BIOGRAPHY: Anne Dublin was born in a displaced persons camp in Salzburg, Austria. She and her family came to Canada in 1948 as part of the "Garment Workers' Scheme," or "Tailor Project." Anne grew up in Toronto, and attended York University and the University of Wisconsin. She was an elementary school teacher and librarian for over 25 years in Nairobi, Kingston, Winnipeg, and Toronto. Anne writes biographies and historical novels for young people, as well as short stories for adults. She has won or been nominated for a number of awards, including the Canadian Jewish Book Award and the Canadian Jewish Literary Award (Youth). She is presently working on a collective biography of Jewish women.

 

 

 

To register, please go to jgstoronto.ca/register

You will then receive an immediate acknowledgement plus the link to access the event on 27 October.

 

The presentation will be recorded. It will be available to JGS Toronto members in the “Members Only” section of the Society website, a few days after the event. It will also be available to non-member registrants for one week after the event in the “Registration” location.

 

To our guests, consider joining our membership for only $40.00 per year by Clicking Here or consider a donation by Clicking Here to assist us in continuing our mission providing a forum for the exchange of genealogical knowledge and information. (Canadians receive a CRA tax receipt.)

 

 

info@...     www.jgstoronto.ca    Tel: 647-247-6414

twitter: jgsoftoronto                                         facebook: Jewish Genealogical Society of Toronto

 

 

Jerry Scherer

Vice President, Communications

jscherer@...

 

 

 


What happened to my great, great grandfather after he landed at Ellis Island? #canada #lithuania #usa

ramot418@...
 

Hi everyone –

 

Over the last 10 years I have been researching my father's family, together with other family members.  We have successfully tracked down all the descendants of my great, great grandfather and their spouses – both living and deceased – and have located the graves of (almost) all the deceased.  However, we have yet to discover what happened to my great, great grandfather and where he is buried.  Here we hit a classic 'brick wall' and would appreciate any help we can get to track him down.

 

Here are the facts we know about him:

1.      His name is Nissen Sagan, son of Wulf, from the town of Veliuona (Velon) in the Kaunas (Kovno) area of Lithuania.

2.      He left the port of Hamburg, Germany, on February 25, 1894 aboard the ship S.S. Scandia bound for NYC, with his declared destination being Montreal, Canada.

3.      He traveled with his son, Wulf Goldberg (my great grandfather) and his granddaughter Gittel (Esther Bella) Goldberg (my great aunt, and Wulf's daughter), and they all landed at Ellis Island on March 21, 1894. All the above is well documented both in the Ellis Island and Hamburg port documents.

4.      Wulf and Esther Bella both arrived in Montreal shortly thereafter, where they made their new home.  Esther Bella was married 5 years later in Montreal, raised her family there and both she and her father Wulf are buried in Montreal cemeteries.

5.      Nissen's other 2 children, Sarah and Moses, had already settled in Montreal (together with their respective families) during the six years prior to his arrival at Ellis Island.

6.      However, we couldn't find any documentation of what happened to Nissen Sagan after he landed at Ellis Island – a complete 'brick wall'.  We found absolutely no evidence of him ever being in Montreal – both living or deceased.  We scoured all cemeteries in the Montreal area at the time and enlisted the help of the JGS of Montreal as well – absolutely nothing. We also checked Jewish cemeteries on the way from NYC to Montreal (upper NY state).

7.      We know that he had passed away by June 1895 at the latest, since a grandson of his (Moses' son) was born that month in Montreal and named after him. 

So….what happened to him?

I can think of only 2 possibilities – assuming he never made it to Montreal:

(a)   He died shortly after his arrival in NYC – the most likely scenario being he was quarantined for whatever reason.  Unfortunately, we couldn't find any on-line information of those who died in quarantine at that time.

(b)   He returned to Europe.  He had left his wife and daughter-in-law (Wulf's wife) behind together with some other grandchildren (Wulf's children).  However, all – except his wife – arrived in Montreal (via Boston) in December 1894. We have no evidence of his wife ever having traveled from Europe to North America.  However, it makes no sense to us that he would travel all the way to NYC/Montreal and then return almost immediately to Europe since it is obvious that his entire family planned to resettle in Canada.

Can anyone help us solve this mystery?

Thanks.

Steve Goldberg

Jerusalem, Israel (formerly from Montreal)

 


Re: Need help identifying my maternal grandfather #dna

Sarah L Meyer
 

She lives in Ohio and or Florida, so there is no problem with DNA testing for her.  Yes the mamzer possibility is why the Chassidic (Haredi) Rabbinate has forbidden DNA testing for the purpose of finding relatives in Israel - but secular Jews find ways around it.

--
Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


Re: Jill Anderson z"l untimely passing #lithuania #latvia

Daniel Horowitz
 

We are very sorry to hear about the passing of Jill Anderson,
President of LitvakSIG.

Jill was a key figure in the partnership established between LitvakSIG
and MyHeritage.

We extend our sympathy to her family, friends and all LitvakSIG members.

In the name of the entire MyHeritage team
Daniel Horowitz
Expert genealogist


Re: The Hebrew translation for the name Yetta #names

Sarah L Meyer
 

Do you have Hebrew on her tombstone?  A Ketuba?  Either of these would give her Hebrew/Yiddish name as opposed to other possibilities (of which there are many).

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Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
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