I was told that I am a descendant of Rabbi Schneur Zalman. Briefly my family tree is:
Rabbi Dovber Schneuri married Shayna Schneuri. They had a daughter Rivka Bella Wallis who married Yekutiel Zalman Wallis. They had a son Srul Mendel Zalmanson who married Gita Zalmanson. They had a son Levi Itzhak Zalmanson who I believe is my great grandfather.
My two questions:
1. From a genealogical or Rabbinic perspective does it make a difference that the lineage is not all male i.e. my connection to Schneur Zalman is through a daughter.
2. I have done an Ancestry DNA. If I wanted to repeat the DNA testing, bearing in mind the above information, which company and which test should I get.
Herman Salmenson

Looking for pre-1700 records DE LA PARRA - family #sephardic

Hester de la Parra

Hi, my father and I are seeking your expertise in tracing our family history. Our ancestors were Sephardic Jews who came to Surinam after the Inquisition. Selemoh de Semuel de la Parra and his wife Luna de Campos (1667-1716) and their descendants lived there. We would appreciate any suggestions on finding their parents and grandparents and reconstruct their journey from Iberia to Surinam.

The father of Selemoh, Semuel de la Parra, might have been born around 1640, his grandfather could have been a Yaakov / Jahacob de la Parra, residence unknown (perhaps Amsterdam or Spain). We don’t know anything about Luna’s parents.

It would be a great assistance if you could provide any kind of information (in German, English, Dutch or French) on how to proceed? 

Kind regards, 

Hester de la Parra

Den Haag, The Netherlands

Miriam Weiner presents: "Routes to Roots Foundation: New Surnames Databases, Maps, Town Images and More!” at JGSSN Zoom #events #galicia #holocaust #lithuania #poland

Ben Kempner

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Southern Nevada (JGSSN) invites you to a Zoom meeting at 11:00 a.m. (Pacific Daylight Time) on Sunday, October 10: "Routes to Roots Foundation: New Surnames Databases, Maps, Town Images and More!” with Miriam Weiner


To request a Zoom link, please complete this short form: which can also be found on our Meetings webpage.

Members of JGSSN can attend for free.  Non-members can pay $5.00 on the Donate webpage and complete the short form.

Session Description:

From 30+ years of working in the archives of Eastern Europe (Poland, Ukraine, Moldova, Belarus, Lithuania), Miriam has acquired hundreds of various document collections yielding millions of surnames. She formed a close working relationship with archivists on all levels many of which continue to this day. 

During the past two years, she has created a surname database containing over 2,000,000 names (with continuing updates regularly). At the website, a surname search can produce entries from Holocaust name lists, vital records, census lists, school records, property lists, various telephone and business directories, applications for Communist Party membership and much more, most of which do not appear elsewhere online. A surname search can produce document results with that surname and links to a street map and town images. All in a single search!  A town name search can yield archive data for that town, as well as town images and a link to a street map of the town.  Another valuable website resource is the Maps database.  Miriam has acquired many maps from various localities. A map search will bring up very detailed maps that, when you zoom in, may reveal even the smallest shtetl.

In 1989, Miriam Weiner accepted an invitation from the Polish National Tourist Office to visit the Polish Archives in preparation for arranging genealogy tours to Poland. That visit led to a 30+ year career working in the archives of Poland, Ukraine, Moldova, Belarus and Lithuania. 

In 1991, The Jewish Week in New York, referred to Miriam as “The Genealogist who Lifted the Archival Iron Curtain”. 
In 1998, The Forward referred to her as “The Indiana Jones of Pre-war Polish Jewry.” 
In 2019, The Jewish Exponent in Philadelphia referred to Miriam in a lecture review as "Genealogy Rock Star Discusses Digging up Jewish Roots."

Miriam's work in the genealogy field has produced a slew of awards beginning more than 30 years ago; among them are: 

In 1988, a writing award from the Council of Genealogy Columnists for her syndicated genealogy column

  • In 1999, 2000, and 2003, three major awards from IAJGS (one for each of her two books and the Lifetime Achievement Award)
  • In 2000, Reference Book of the Year award from the Association of Jewish Libraries
  • In 2019, The National Genealogical Society presented Miriam with the prestigious "President's Citation" at its annual conference in St. Louis
  • In 2020; The Federation of Genealogical Societies awarded her the Rabbi Malcolm H Stern Humanitarian Award 

The new version of the RTRF website has produced many comments from noted members of the genealogical community, See


Ben Kempner

Vice President,

Jewish Genealogy Society of Southern Nevada

Re: Beth David Cemetery in Elmont, NY #photographs #usa

Steven Lasky

I have photographed more than 100 society plots at Beth David. Perhaps if you can tell me what society plot your people are buried in, and their names, I can check to see if I have info on them.

Steve Lasky


Re: September 2021 Summary of IAJGS Records/Family Search and Poland microfilms #poland #records


Are there restrictions on access to FamilySearch POLAND JEWISH microfilm digitizations? Some researchers say a patron of FamilySearch has to actually be physically in a Library or Records Room to gain access to those parts of the microfilm collection. 

Dan Brockman
JewishGen #50584

Re: The Hebrew translation for the name Yetta #names

David Shapiro

Jennie is often Sheina.

David Shapiro

Re: The Hebrew translation for the name Yetta #names

Reuven Mohr

of course it is important and helpful to find Hebrew/Yiddish names of ancestors. I think to use the word "translation" in this context sounds problematic.
Also the expression 'she created a name' sounds a little disturbing. In my research I learned that during the 18th-19th cent. people very often turn up with a variety of names, and we will never know how and by whom they were 'created'.

As to Jennie, I can give you a few samples of names which I found in German communities in connection with Jennie:
Judith, Jente, Jentel, Jachet, Jette, Julie, Shendel/Scheindel = Jeanette, Marianne, Chaya  ... and probably more

good luck,

Reuven Mohr

Re: What happened to my great, great grandfather after he landed at Ellis Island? #canada #lithuania #usa


His name was definitely Nissen (ניסן).  In the Lithuanian Revision Lists he also shows up as Nossel for some reason. :)
All his children's graves have his name inscribed as such (son/daughter of Nissen - ניסן).  Also, my father was named after him and his Hebrew name is Nissen (ניסן), even though his English name is Nathan. Same with Moses' son described above (born June 1895).
Of course, during our research we looked at all Jewish Sagans - especially those named Nathan/Nissen and similar.  Complete blank.

My main request is to know if there is any database or lists (on-line or off-line) of those who died soon after arrival at Ellis Island/NYC - whether in quarantine or not - and, if so, where they are buried.  Of course, any other ideas are welcome as well. :)

Steve Goldberg
Jerusalem, Israel.

Levy-Freund in Vienna #austria-czech

Neil Rosenstein

Trying to make contact with the Freund family of Vienna. Nissan Levy
married Yehudit daughter of Raatza Rechil, born in Hungary in 1897 and
died in Israel on August 30, 1984, married R. Joseph Freund, born in
Czechoslovakia on November 28, 1895 and died in Israel on October 31,
Neil Rosenstein

Re: Using Wife's Surname For Immigration #general #names


I struggled for years to locate my great grandfather's immigration info.  I suspect it was the new wife who purchased the tickets under her own [former] name, the registrar garbled the ages and names of the children, putting the husband's given name as a child and so on.  Her son by her first marriage used a variety of surnames, finally settling on one that was 'unknown' in our family.  But I eventually found him, and my g-grandfather.

Shirley Ginzburg
Aptos, California

House numbers from birth records #poland

tony hausner

My greatgrandparents had seven children born in Skala Podolskaya in Eastern Galicia between 1890 and 1902.  Here are the house numbers listed on the images on the birth records in the JRI-Poland database.
404, 302, 301, 302, 13, 14, 26. 
My greatgrandparents moved to Skala when they married in 1886 and I do not know where they lived between 1886 and 1920. However, I have a photo of the house they lived in1920.  It was a combination dry goods store and house.  It is possible that they lived in that house as of their marriage.. In any case, I wonder why the birth records each involve a different house. Would that be the house for the midwife.  
I can provide links to the images of the records if that helps.  
Tony Hausner
Silver Spring, MD


Re: Beth David Cemetery in Elmont, NY #photographs #usa

A. E. Jordan

Did anyone offer? Or I might be able to do it on Sunday.

Allan Jordan

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Subject: Re: [] Beth David Cemetery in Elmont, NY #photographs #usa

If someone does go, i can add a couple names, and put a check in the mail (hope $20 is enough for your time) for them after photo's are taken and sent. Just send address to send it to. 
Ruebin and Florence Fiedler, map is attached for location.
Brian Westerman, sea1958wa@...

Are you bored without Facebook?🥱 #JewishGenUpdates

Avraham Groll

Are you bored without Facebook & WhatsApp? Come on over to JewishGen! 

There are so many ways to make your experience on JewishGen productive and meaningful. Here are some things can do while you wait for Facebook to return: 

  1. Register and search the JewishGen Family Finder, whereby you can connect with researchers who may be researching similar information that you are. This tool has connected thousands! Type in your name and see what happens!
  2. Join our Discussion Group and then search the archives (millions of messages!) to see if there has been any discussion in the past of the information you are researching. If you are unable to find anything, you can then post a message. Click the link to submit your email, and you will automatically be added to our vibrant community: 
  3. Search our historical database! We provide access to millions of records from around the world, and have made significant updates/additions over the past few months.
  4. Search for a Jewish Community where your ancestor might have lived:
  5. Learn about what life was like for you ancestors:

We hope you will be inspired to learn more about your family history, and that you will continue to utilize our free website even once Facebook comes back online :)

Wishing you much success with your research!
The JewishGen Team

Free Webinar: New England Jewish Roots #JewishGenUpdates #education

Avraham Groll

Join us for Researching Jewish Families in America, a special series of JewishGen Talks highlighting archives, museums, and historical society collections of interest to family historians. The next virtual talk will take place on Wednesday, October 6, 2021 at 2:00 PM ET, and will focus on New England Jewish Resources. Specifically, it will feature repositories with collections about the Jews of New England. The program is co-sponsored by the New England Jewish History Collaborative (

Registration is free with a suggested donation. Please click here to register nowAfter registering, you will receive a confirmation email about how to join the webinar.


  • Rachel C. King, Executive Director, The Wyner Family Jewish Heritage Center at New England Historic Genealogical Society
  • Lindsay Sprechman Murphy, Senior Archivist, The Wyner Family Jewish Heritage Center at New England Historic Genealogical Society
  • Kate-Lynn Laroche, Executive Director, Rhode Island Jewish Historical Association
  • Elizabeth Rose, Executive Director, Jewish Historical Society of Greater Hartford
  • Harris Gleckman, Director, Documenting Maine Jewry Project
  • Ellen Kowitt, Director, JewishGen’s USA Research Division

SCJGS: invites you "O Canada: Researching Your Canadian Jewish Ancestors from Afar" with Marion Werle #canada #events #records #announcements

Leah Kushner

Santa Cruz Jewish Genealogy Society  invites you to  


"O' Canada! Researching Your Canadian Jewish Ancestors from Afar "   

Marion Werle. Professional genealogist

Sunday, October, 24. 2021, 1pm Pacific Time Zone/4pm Eastern  . 



Free to Members, $5.00 to Guests



This presentation concentrates on internet-based Canadian family research that can be done from virtually anywhere. The focus is on the major years of Jewish immigration to Canada after 1880 and ranges from Jewish farming settlements in the Canadian West to immigration to larger cities. The presentation covers the major sources of Canadian genealogical records– government, general genealogy websites, educational and other institutions – and includes ship manifests, naturalization records, Canadian census and census substitutes, city directories, voter lists, 1940 residence records, Jewish communal institutions, vital records, cemetery data, military records and local histories.

Bio: Marion Werle, a professional genealogist, began family history research 25 years ago, researching family from Lithuania, Latvia and Belarus, who settled in the US, Canada, UK, and Israel. She has been on the boards of JGSLA and JGSCV (Conejo Valley/Ventura County) and is a past president and founding member of the Latvia SIG (Special Interest Group). She is currently on the board of the revitalized JewishGen Latvia Research Division. She has an ongoing interest in applying general genealogical methodology standards to Jewish research. Marion has also spoken at several IAJGS conferences and local genealogical societies in the Southern California area.

Zoom link will be sent to your email the week of the event, please check your Spam folder. For more information or membership information membership.scjgs@...

Contact: Leah Kushner

 President, SCJGS
Santa Cruz, California





Russian Empire Documents - Method for Finding

Lara Diamond

Many Russian-speaking Jewish genealogists have created indexes for
various record sets. I write about a method for identifying if your
surnames may be mentioned, which helped me find numerous documents
relating to my family.

Lara Diamond
Baltimore, MD

Re: Radomysl Wielki #poland #general

Renee Steinig

The JewishGen Family Finder ( lists two people interested in KELLER from Tarnow and one interested in KELLER from Radomysl Wielki.  One of the researchers hasn't logged onto JewishGen since 2014, but the other two are active. You can contact them via the Family Finder. I encourage you to add your own ancestral surnames and towns there as well.

One more genealogist interested in KELLER from Tarnow appears in Gesher Galicia's Family Finder, which is accessible to members of Gesher Galicia. More information on membership: .


Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills NY

Joseph Kauftheil <k5709999@...> wrote:

is there anyone in this forum that has done research on families from Radomysl Wielki
specifically on Keller from Radomysl and Tarnow

Incorrect Soc. Sec. Death Index record #records

Judy Kaufman <judykaufman7@...>

My grandmother had a brother, John, or Yonya, or Janne Raskin.  I know he existed because 1) the family has a photo of my grandmother and all her 6 surviving siblings when they are all quite old, at some sort of family event, and each person is labeled - he is labeled here as Yonya;  2) When the parents and 7 children arrived in NY in 1906 (excluding my grandmother and her brother who I was told came earlier) on the ship log they state they are going to their son/brother John Raskin on Pitt St., NYC.  But I can't find any other information on him except this death record, except it's got an error.

I have attached Janne Raskin's doc. sec. death index record on Ancestry, which says:
Social Security Number: 063-20-6279
Birth Date: 1 Jul 1886   [I believe this is the correct birth date of my grandmother's brother because it is the same as her birth date, and I believe they were twins]
Death Date: Oct 1972

I sent away for the application for that ssn and the 1942 application I received (also attached) is for:
Janne Raskin - a female with birth surname Mallmen
birth date: Oct. 26, 1892

So it seems likely that the female Janne Raskin's ssn was mistakenly linked to the death of the male Janne Raskin...  although the birth date on the record, which is definitely not female Janne's birth date, confuses things.   I can't find any other records of a Raskin death in 1972.  

I haven't been able to find any other records for a female Janne Mallmen Raskin...  

Is there any way for me to untangle this and perhaps end up with more information about "my" Janne Raskin? 
Judy Kaufman
Irvine, CA

ROSENBLUM (Brest, Belarus), FRIEDMAN (Suwalki, Poland), LEIDERMAN (Khashchuvatye, Ukraine, KONETSPOLSK (Khaschuvatye, Ukraine), WEINSTEIN (Sokolow-Malopolski, Poland), RINENHEIM (Sokolow-Malopolski, Poland), LUKA (Sokolow-Malopolski, Poland), RASKIN (Ichnya, Ukraine), SCHIMAYATZSKY(Ichnya, Ukraine), SOKOLOWSKI (Ichnya, Ukraine)

Re: Beth David Cemetery in Elmont, NY #photographs #usa

Brian Weste

If someone does go, i can add a couple names, and put a check in the mail (hope $20 is enough for your time) for them after photo's are taken and sent. Just send address to send it to. 


Ruebin and Florence Fiedler, map is attached for location.

Brian Westerman, sea1958wa@...

September 2021 Summary of IAJGS Records Access Alert #general #jgs-iajgs #records

Jan Meisels Allen

As mentioned previously, every month I post a listing of the IAJGS Records Access Alert topics from the previous month for you to see the variety of issues…some were posted on this discussion group but most were not—all postings are included below.  The following are the summaries for the month of September, 2021.  In order not to miss out on important information it is worthwhile for you to be subscribed to the Records Access Alert. Without records, genealogists cannot do genealogy –making certain that we retain access and gain access where it is impaired is every genealogists' responsibility.


  • Ancestry Appoints Former Amazon and Facebook Executives
  • FamilySearch Completes Digitizing 2.4 Million rolls of Microfilm
  • Free US Statewide Vital Records Reference Chart


  • (Australia) CNN Restricts Access to Facebook Pages in Australia
  • Re: (Australia) CNN Restricts Access to Facebook Pages in Australia
  • (Australia) Court Rules Australia Media Can Be Sued For Social Media Comments; Radio Australia to Start Bargaining


  • (Canada) Federal Election Called for September 2-' C-11 Dead Due to Election
  • (Canada) Prime Minister Trudeau Wins Reelection


  • (European Union) Google Fights Record Fines; Advertisers Say Browser Cookies Plan Anti-Competitive
  • (European Union) New Antitrust Investigation On Google's Voice Assistant
  • (European Union) Reminder that September 27 Standard Contractual Clauses Must be Used for All New Contracts
  • European Union- US) Inaugural U.S. -EU Trade and Technology Council Meeting Announced
  • (France) Google to Appeal $590 Million Fine by French Competition Watchdog
  • (Ireland) Data Privacy Commissioner Asks Facebook About LED indicator On Smart Glasses
  • (Ireland) Google to Face International Businessman in Landmark Case
  • (Ireland) WhatsApp Fined $267 Million USD by Irish Data Authority for not Being Transparent


  • (Philippines) Fire Broke out at Manila's National Archives on September 5, 2021


  • (Russia) Facebook, Google and other Big Tech Firms Face More Fines in Russia as Kremlin Curbs Access to Information Online


  • (United Kingdom) Public Consultation on Reforms to the UK's data Protection Regime


  • (US) American Community Survey--Proposed Rule
  • (US) Additional Funding For NARA Keyed to Veterans Accessing Their Records
  • (US) Big Technology Pressing Lawmakers to Stop Prosecutors from Snooping on Private Accounts
  • (US) Facebook's Response: Wall Street Journal Shows Facebook Knew Instagram Toxic for Teen Girls
  • (US) Wall Street Journal Shows Facebook Knew Instagram Toxic for Teen Girls
  • (US) Losing Plaintiffs Ask for Post-Appeal Motion Against Ancestry in Right to Publicity Case
  • (US-CA) AB -751 on Vital Records Copying Passed Senate And Goes to Governor
  • (US-CA) California Privacy Protection Invitation for Preliminary Comments on Proposed Rule Making
  • (US-CA) University of Southern California Libraries New Digital Resources for LA Community Histories
  • US-CA) Voters Strongly Reject Recall of Governor Newsom
  • (US- District of Columbia) Medical Examiner Records Privacy Act of 2021
  • (US-TX) HB 20 Passes Bill to Punish Social Media Companies for Alleged Political Censorship



The IAJGS Board of Directors approved opening the Records Access Alert to anyone who is interested in records access. This was announced previously.  We now have subscribers from many genealogical organizations not previously able to subscribe. To be on top of what is happening you are encouraged to register for the Records Access Alerts to receive the information in a timely manner.  If you are interested in any of the above items, please register for the IAJGS Records Access Alert and look at them in the archives.  To register for the IAJGS Records Access Alert go to:  and follow the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which genealogical organization you belong to a society, SIG  or a subscriber of JewishGen, AVOTAYNU, Legal Genealogist  etc. You will receive an email response that you have to reply to, or the subscription will not be finalized. The alerts are archived and once you register you may access the archives at:


The IAJGS Records Access Alert is not a daily announcement list. Depending on what happens worldwide, there may be no postings for several days and other times there may be several in one day.


These are listed alphabetically not chronologically.  Each month the locales covered differ.


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


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