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Re: Looking for info on towns: Bartfeld & Bardejov #austria-czech

Frank Szmulowicz
 

On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 11:46 AM, JB Haber wrote:
Barteld is the German name of Bardejov, Bartfa the Hungarian one.
Whether Bartfa, Bartfeld or Bardejov, it's beautiful

Čítajte viac: https://spectator.sme.sk/c/20014594/whether-bartfa-bartfeld-or-bardejov-its-beautiful.html
Besides defending his kingdom, King Béla was also preoccupied with getting rich. To this end, he lured Germans (and lots of them) to the hinterland to develop mining and other key industries. In "Bartfeld - the German name for Bardejov," trade was the name of the game, quickly raising this German colony's wealth and influence to a level rivaled in eastern Slovakia by only Levoča and Košice.

 https://spectator.sme.sk/c/20014594/whether-bartfa-bartfeld-or-bardejov-its-beautiful.html

Frank Szmulowicz
Mt Olive Cemetery Cleveland #usa #general

Sandy.eisen@...
 

If there’s anyone in Cleveland who might be able to snap a photo of a gravestone at Mount Olive Cemetery, please contact me. Many thanks.
Sandy Eisen
Sandy.Eisen@...
Re: Original Documents of the Lithuanian Census & Family Lists: Are They Available Online? #lithuania

Russ Maurer
 

Hi Marilyn,

The record you want is not online, but the FHL is currently in the process of scanning and posting LVIA/515/15. They have already posted up to file 721 and I know the scanning has progressed well into the 700s. If you can be patient, they will probably reach your record in a matter of months, unless there is an unexpected holdup. Alternatively, you would have to contact the archives and order a copy of the record.

Russ Maurer
Records Acquisition and Translation coordinator, LitvakSIG
Re: How to Find a Name Change #poland #names

David Harrison <djh_119@...>
 

Gail, I do not know how different the USA and UK procedures were at that period, but in the case of my grandfather, I was able to look into the nationalisation file at the Police report and other backing documents held in our National Archives.  I found a note to the effect that he was now know and traded under the name of Harrison because this was easier for his customers/clients to use, he was a tailor, and this was accepted without any requirement for any official document of change of surname.  this applied to him, his wife and the children, including my father and his siblings.
 
It maybe that there is no official document of change of name on file at that period.  This was after he had been in the UK for nearly 20 years and the law about who could vote (involving property had changed to include all the family. 
 
David Harrison
Birmingham, England
Searching HERSZKOWICZ, in Poland

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Sent: 14 October 2021 21:30
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Subject: [JewishGen.org] How to Find a Name Change #names #poland
 
Earlier this year, I posted a question (#655832) about a puzzling ship manifest someone found for me that looked like it might be my family (all 7 first names, birth order and approximate ages were right), but had a different surname (Penesuch instead of Grossman).  I received a number of helpful replies--many thanks to all who responded!!!  Since then, I have been trying to see if I can find some "proof"--that is, some record that connects the 2 names.  This has unearthed a new dilemma for me, and I am hoping someone can help me figure out a logical explanation for several discrepancies I am seeing.

Here is the background:  I have found a few records in Poland that "might" be some of my ancestors, but nothing linking the 2 names, or in fact, linking any of the names to each other, so I thought I would see if any of the naturalization records referenced the former name.  In the first place, I don't see where a name change should be indicated.  I don't see a place for it on the declaration and petition forms, so it would help me to understand where I should be looking for this information.  In the second place, I have 3 records for brothers who should have traveled together.  They all give different dates of travel, and all the dates are different than the Penesuch record we found.  One says the ship is unknown, and 2 give the same ship name, the same month and day, but different years!  And although I do see that there was a ship by the right name, I don't see any record that it arrived on that date in either year!  I thought the officials were supposed to check the manifests to verify the information in the naturalization forms, so I am seeking an explanation for how this could have happened.  Were the checks not as rigorous as I've been told?  Were officials bribed to sign off without checking?  Is there another explanation?

If there is a plausible explanation for what I am seeing, and/or if there are other records I should be looking for (along with information on whether they exist and where I can find them), that alone would be a great help. 

I wasn't sure if it was necessary to provide all the details, and doing so makes the message rather long, but in case my explanation above is not clear, the following are the details of what I have found and what they seem to show:

The details:  I searched for 3 brothers whose names I know as William, Max and Jack Grossman who came from the Lomza area of Poland (not sure if the city or the province).  William was probably Wulf in Lomza, and I know Max was Isaac.  Jack, of course, was Jacob.  All were born around 1880-1888.  The naturalization papers I have found include the following:  for William, a Declaration dated Nov. 27, 1909 and a Petition dated Sept. 19, 1912; for Max, a Declaration dated 1923, I think (the date is smudged), a second Declaration dated Oct. 3, 1941, and a Petition signed Feb. 3, 1944; and for Jack, a Declaration dated Nov. 12, 1913, another Declaration dated Aug. 23, 1923, and a Petition dated Dec. 18, 1925.

In their Declarations, Max and Jack Grossman said they sailed from Hamburg to NY on the Amsterdam, arriving Sept. 15 (Max said it was in 1896 and Jack said it was 1894).  William didn’t remember the name of the ship, but said he sailed from Glasgow to NY, arriving July 29, 1892. Let me qualify this slightly—most of the records for Max and Jack say they sailed from Hamburg, but Max apparently let his first Declaration of Intention expire, and his second one (almost 20 years later) gives the same ship name and same date of arrival, but says he sailed from Rotterdam.  The Penesuch record (or Pencsuch in the U.K. manifest) has the mother, these 3 children and 3 other children (for whom I have found no naturalization papers, and in 2 cases, I believe none exist--one was naturalized under her husband's petition and the other lied about her age so appeared to have been born in the U.S.) sailing on the State of California and arriving on Aug. 27, 1895. 

William, Max, and Jack were all minors at the time they came here, so it doesn't seem likely that they went back and forth.  I also wondered if they could have been confused and mixed up names a little bit (i.e., remembering that the ship was the name of a Dutch city, but getting the wrong city), so I tried to search to see if there was a ship named Rotterdam.  I did find a ship named Rotterdam that arrived from Amsterdam on Sept. 15, 1894, but I don’t see any Grossman family members listed.   I even tried to see if there was a ship named Hamburg, but it looks like there wasn’t one that sailed during that period.

In all the Declarations and Petitions, I find some piece of information (an address, a spouse's name, and/or the name of a witness) that I believe confirms that these are the right individuals.  

I hope this hasn't gotten too detailed.  Most of all, I'd be happy to know if there is anything else I could check to find out if there was a name change, but any other help or advice is certainly appreciated.

Gail H. Marcus
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Re: Original Documents of the Lithuanian Census & Family Lists: Are They Available Online? #lithuania

Ilan Ganot
 

The source of this specific document is LVIA (Lithuanian State Historical Archives) in Vilma (Vilnius).
You may apply to the LVIA requesting for copy of the original document. You should mention the exact source. In your case: LVIA/515/15/878.
They charge for handling and posting.
I succeeded in obtaining such documents concerning my father. 
For more information about their services see:
https://www.archyvai.lt/en/news.html

Ilan Ganot
Stanford University Taube Archive of the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg #holocaust #records #usa

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

The Center for Human Rights and International Justicein the Hague has given Stanford University permission to digitize the Nuremberg Trial archives. Evenutally,  250,000 pages will be accessible online.

 See: https://exhibits.stanford.edu/virtual-tribunals/feature/taube-archive-of-the-international-military-tribunal-imt-at-nuremberg-1945-1946

 

It’s 75 years since the Nuremberg Trial closed –Octobeber 1, 1946, where a group of convicted Nazi leaders was sentenced by the International Military Tribunal (IMT) for crimes against peace, war crimes and crimes against humanity committed during World War II and the Holocaust.

 

For the past seven years, Stanford Libraries has been working with the Registry of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in The Hague to obtain a complete digital corpus of the Nuremberg Trial in support of the Virtual Tribunal of the Stanford Center for Human Rights and International Justice.

 

“This additional collection, to be known as the Taube Archive of the International Military Tribunal of Nuremberg, will allow the public to easily browse and discover the contents of over 5,000 trial records – including 250,000 pages of digitized paper documents – showing in meticulous detail the efforts of the IMT, a group of representatives from four Allied countries – the U.S., the U.K., the Soviet Union and France – who were tasked with prosecuting former officials of the Third Reich and holding them accountable for the horrific acts inflicted during World War II and the Holocaust.”

 

Included in the archive are firsthand accounts from the few who survived the Nazi concentration camps, including for example Marie-Claude Vaillant Couturier, a member of the French Resistance who was imprisoned at Auschwitz and Ravensbrück. She describes in great detail what she and many others had to endure: starvation, slave labor, beatings, epidemics and extreme cold – as well the daily trauma of witnessing thousands sent to gas chambers, never to return, among many other cruelties. Vaillant Couturier later became a French politician.

 

There are also transcripts of eyewitness accounts, including that of Hermann Gräbe, a construction manager who described the horrors of a mass execution he saw in Dubno, Ukraine. Gräbe painfully recounts how he saw a grave of over a thousand bodies, some of whom were “still moving.”

 

Users will be able to explore digital surrogates of trial records, including transcripts of the court hearings in English, French, German and Russian; case files; trial briefs; evidentiary exhibits filed by the prosecution and the defense; opening and closing statements; final pleas; procedural rules, orders, judgments, dissenting opinions and sentences. At a later date, more multimedia – such as film, audio recordings, photographs – will be added to the collection.

 

To read more see:  https://news.stanford.edu/2021/09/30/stanford-scholars-expand-digital-database-historic-records-nuremberg-trial/

 

In January 2021, the IAJGS Records Access Alert reported on the War Crimes Nuremberg Trial Recordings available at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.See: The collection consists of 1,942 gramophone discs holding 775 hours of hearings and 37 reels of film used as evidence in the trials.

 

See: https://www.ushmm.org/information/press/press-releases/for-75th-anniversary-of-nuremberg-trials-museum-makes-available-war-crimes-

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 
Kishinev Jewish Cemetery update #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Hello everybody,

I want to share with you thoughts about Kishinev Jewish Cemetery.  I am working on "second" reading for Sector 6.
As you know we have already worked on Sectors 1, 2, 4 and 5. Total number of records available at JOWBR is 8,851 and 558 graves were not identified.  Let's I explain what that means.  If there is no surname, no name, and no father's name at the inscription - that grave is not identified.  Here is Cemetery Report as of now: https://www.jewishgen.org/bessarabia/files/cemetery/Kishinev/KishinevJewishCemeteryReport.pdf

Sector 6 is somewhat different.  Total number of graves is about 3,000, and from that almost 1,000 are not identified.  The monuments are broken into pieces, or fallen on the ground.  That sector is in terrible condition.  Even "identified" graves are in disarray, and they will not last long.  It is probably not more than 500 graves are in normal condition!

You may remember that in 2018 Prime Minister of Republic of Moldova visited that cemetery and demanded a plan to restore the Jewish cemetery.  You can read an article about that visit and the result of Cleaning efforts, when about 200 monuments were damaged!  Read this article from the Cemetery Report.

Here are two inscriptions which we able to read somehow:
I had to stitch two images together...
 GOLDENBERG,  Slava Peril bat Yosef, 27 Av 5675, 25-Jul-1915

The second image is attached
? ben Avraham, 11 Tevet 5680

The 6th sector is also special in other way.   I found graves of about 20 people who were victims in Kishinev Pogrom of 1903.  There will be a special report/website about this soon.  Also there are victims of Kishinev Pogrom of 1905, victims of Kishinev Ghetto of 1941-1942.

I want to thank two people who did a great job working on this sector:  Terry Lasky and Nathen Gabriel. 

I would like to hear from the group of what we can do to save that cemetery, and make it somewhat better.

All the best,

Shabbat Shalom,
Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia Group Leader and Coordinator
Paternity Recognition 1943 Paris #france

George Fogelson
 

My cousin was a German-Jew living in Paris from 1942-44. A non-Jewish man offered to recognize her as his daughter so she would be classified as a half-Jew and not be subject to wearing the Yellow Star. Would such records of declarations of paternity in Paris during the war exist. And if they would exist, any suggestions where I can begin my research?

Thank you,
George Fogelson
Los Angeles, CA
Re: I'm trying to locate a Jewish twin brother who came to New York from Shanghai via Japan in 1938. #usa

Mark Halpern
 

Dear Ogawa-san:

You outline a very difficult search, but knowing that the passengers left Yokohama to the United States in 1938 is helpful as is that these men were twins and Jewish and their final destination was New York. However, there were no passenger ships that sailed from Yokohama to New York in 1938. The routes to New York were for the passenger to sail from Yokohama to Seattle, Washington, San Francisco, California, or Los Angeles (San Pedro), California and then take a train across America to New York. 

I think there may be records in Japan of passengers embarking in 1938 in Yokohama to all three ports. You should find out if these records exist and, if they do, then have someone or yourself go through the records to find two male passengers of the same age who might be Hebrew or Jewish that are heading to New York. I did a similar search of US arrival records and there were over 9,000 male passengers traveling in 1938 from Yokohama to those three ports on the West Coast of the United States. It will take a great deal of time to go through this list to possibly find the twins.  

I will also be sending your original posting to my friend in Japan. Maybe he has some ideas. I will provide him your name and email address.

I wish you success in your search.

Mark Halpern

 

On 2021-10-13 8:52 pm, 小川和久 wrote:

My name is Kazuhisa Ogawa, Project Professor University of Shizuoka,Japan. 
 
I am looking for the identities of Jewish twin brothers, and I would greatly appreciate your help and advice.
 
The purpose of this research is to write a biography of my mother, who was born in 1903.
 
I am not proficient in English, so I will use machine translation and itemize the survey items.
 
My mother told me about the following 14 points.
 
1) They are adult male twins.
2) I don't know their name.
3) In 1938, they escaped from Shanghai to New York via Yokohama.
4) They were persecuted by the Nazis and are thought to have fled from the Austrian area.
5) It was my mother's friend, Ernst Stoeri, who sent them into defection.
6) Stoeri was the Austrian Honorary Consul General in Tokyo until 1938.
7) Stoeri is also Jewish, and his brothers were killed in the Dachau concentration camp.
8) Stoli was also detained by the Japanese military police in Tokyo on the orders of the Gestapo.
9) The twin brothers were part of a wealthy American family, and the wealthy family was apparently involved in the oil business.
10)They contacted Stoeri to offer him the right to sell oil in Asia as a reward for helping their escape.
11)Then, they sent a tanker to Japan as a sample.
12) My mother suggested that the Japanese Navy buy that oil.
13)However, while the Japanese Navy faltered, ironically, the German ambassador, Major General Ott, bought it.
14) That one incident led my mother to accuse the Japanese military of incompetence, which was suppressed until the end of the war.
 
What I would like to know are the following 8 points. Please only tell me what you know.
 
・The names of these twin brothers.
・Age at the time
・Where have they escaped from?
・Date of arrival in New York
・The name of the family living in the U.S. that took them in.
・The twin brothers were able to offer Storie the rights to sell oil in Asia because the family, who lived in the U.S., was involved in the management of what company?
・The factual basis for sending a sample tanker to Japan
・What happened to the business relationship between the American company and Germany after the German Ambassador Ott bought it?
 
The facts as they turn out will not be used for any other purpose than to describe my mother in her biography.
Kazuhisa Ogawa,
This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #yizkorbooks #poland #JewishGenUpdates

Bruce Drake
 

“Yossel Joreder the Rabbi of the Thieves,” from the Yizkor book of Stawiski in Poland, was only a rabbi in the sense the title is used to describe someone’s mentor or a puppeteer pulling the strings. On one hand, he was regarded as a fine person and “outstanding householder” in town, but on the other, everyone knew that he earned his living through robbery. He seemed to be able to preserve the “respectable” side of his reputation because he did not actually commit the robberies himself but served as a kind of consigliere and middleman to those who actually carried them out. And, townspeople were grateful that he would “work” only with thieves in far off places.
He did not meet a happy end.
 

--
Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, MD

Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK
Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel
Original Documents of the Lithuanian Census & Family Lists: Are They Available Online? #lithuania

Marilyn Robinson
 

I have the index information for Mendel YUDIN, my paternal gr.gr. grandfather, (b. 1824) from Sharkovshchina, Disna, Vilnius. How do I obtain a copy of the original birth document? The record that I have was from the "Lithuania, LitvakSIG Census & Family Lists from Various Districts, 1795-1900", found on Ancestry. (see attached file)

Thank you,
Marilyn Yudien Robinson
Florida
Any users of Mac Family Tree here? #general

JB Haber
 

Are there any users here who use MacFamily Tree software? I'd like to make a break from Facebook, but that site has a rather vibrant group for that software which might be hard to replicate.
--
Jonathan Haber
Researching Haber, Raker, Mandel, Davis, Cohen, Lunche, Shapiro, Fostoff.
Researching Galicia, Pomorzany.
Looking for info on towns: Bartfeld & Bardejov #austria-czech

JB Haber
 

One of my relatives mentioned that our great grandparents hailed from a town originally called Bartfeld, which after WWI was renamed to Bardejov (pronounced Bard-ee-yov).

I've found Bardejov in my research, but since that town dates back several centuries (according to an article on Wikipedia), I'm not sure that's the right town.

And I've not been able to find a town called Bartfeld.

Any suggestions?
--
Jonathan Haber
Researching Haber, Raker, Mandel, Davis, Cohen, Lunche, Shapiro, Fostoff.
Researching Galicia, Pomorzany.
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Passenger Manifests #southafrica #usa #education

Esta Kawaoka
 

“Just How Were Passenger Manifests Created”. Great information on avotaynuonline.com on passenger manifests to South Africa and the USA, late 1800’s to early 1900’s.
Esta Kawaoka
Re: Marriage Certificate #records

rhode.bud@...
 

This would appear to be it -



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David Davies
Barrington, RI
rhode.bud@...

Re: I'm trying to locate a Jewish twin brother who came to New York from Shanghai via Japan in 1938. #usa

R Jaffer
 

Based on the year 1938, here are the most likely families to send an oil tanker:
  •  He reorganized an existing bankrupt NY company in 1933 for which he had been a driver, Leon Hess (1914–1999), founder of the Hess Corporation (now led by his son, John B. Hess (1954–)) and former owner of NFL's New York Jets[27]
  • This company was absorbed in 1922, but son Jacob might have been influential enough to have a tanker sent.  Louis Blaustein (1869–1937), Lithuanian-born co-founder (along with his son Jacob) of the American Oil Company (1922)[14]
  • In 1930, Fisher joined his father's Keystone Oil Refining Company, a motor oil reclamation business, in Detroit as a $15-a-week salesman before forming his own company in 1932.[1][3]  Max Fisher (1908–2005), founder of the Aurora Gasoline Company, once one of the largest gas station chains in the Midwest[16]
  • Although young, this man joined his father's oil business prior to 1938. Benedict I. Lubell (1909–1996), founder of the Lubell Oil Company[31]

Roberta Jaffer
Waltham, MA, USA
Re: Query about how someone from Nyitra megye ends up in Mauthasen #general

hammeroptometrist@...
 

Was he a male of military age? Recruited to the labour battalions attached to the Hungarian army? This could easily have yielded a pathway ending at Mauthausen.

Robert Hammer
Petah Tikva, Israel


On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 06:37 AM, JACOB MICHAEL wrote:
Nyitra megye
To offer genealogy services in Ukraine #ukraine #general

Vladimir
 

Dear members of the group,

I offer services in genealogy search:
- research for vital records (birth, marriage, death records in old
church metrical books) in the state archives of Ukraine;
- translations of personal letters, vital records, census records
(from Russian/Ukrainian into English and from English into
Russian/Ukrainian).
Free of charge I can answer your questions about availability of old
metrical books if you know the following parameters: religion, year of
an event you are interested in (birth, death, marriage), town/village,
where your ancestors lived.
For details, contact me privately.
Thank you.

Best regards, Vladimir Kreshchyshyn
researcher, translator
in Kherson, Ukraine.
New and Updated Databases on IGRA’s Website #israel #records

Elena Bazes
 

The Israel Genealogy Research Association (IGRA) has just released new and updated databases on its website. There are now over 2,000,000 records available in our databases. With each release we provide a variety of records to our collection.

 

A preview of the databases is available at

 

https://www.slideshare.net/igra3/2021-09-igra-database-release

 

New Databases

Rishon Letsiyon Registries       1882-1911
1,192 listings

Family Search Archives

 

Voters Petah Tikva      1940
6,968 listings

Israel State Archives

 

Telephone Directory    July 1941
9,242 listings

Library of Congress

 

Passport from Two Archives
7,453 listings

Israel State Archives
Centralna Biblioteka Judaistycna

 

Basmat – Technion Instructors & Workers      1937-2007
2,111 listings

Internet

 

Fallen  – Graduates of Basmat
204 listings

Internet

 

Updated Databases

Jerusalem 1947 Census – Jewish Community (partial) Update
9,142 listings

Israel State Archives

 

Before viewing and searching the databases, please register for free on the IGRA website:

 

http://genealogy.org.il/

 

Please note, the IGRA databases are now searchable to all registrants. The search results page is also available to all registrants. Additional details regarding most databases are available only to paid IGRA members. Certain exceptions exist due to requests of the specific archives.

 

 

To view/search the databases, go to the database tab on the website.

 

Elena Biegel Bazes

IGRA Publicity Chair

 
Re: Researching: family Gunsberger of Papa, Hungary, including Flora/Fradel, who married a Lazar. Bodansky, Hungary. Lafosky, Ukraine, Hackers, Austria-Germany. Anyone else? #hungary #austria-czech #ukraine #holocaust #unitedkingdom

Michael
 

Naomi:

 

I am related by marriage to another child of Lipot Gunsberger & Magdolna Stern:

Moric Jozsef Israel Gunsberger

1860–1931

BIRTH 27 APR 1860 • Osli, Gyor-Moson-Sopron, Hungary

DEATH 10 APR 1931 • Budapest, Hungary

husband of great-grandaunt

 

who married

 

Berta Rosenberger

1870–1936

BIRTH 1870 • Szentdomonkos, Heves, Hungary

DEATH 22 JUL 1936 • District XV, Budapest, Hungary

great-grandaunt

 

who was the sister to my G Grandmother:

 

Karolina Rosenberger

1866–1947

BIRTH 1866 • Garta, Gyor-Moson-Sopron, Hungary

DEATH 3 JAN 1947 • District V, Budapest, Hungary

great-grandmother


who married my G Grandfather:

 

Adolf Abraham Perl

1857–1943

BIRTH 27 FEB 1857 • Kajarpec, Gyor-Moson-Sopron, Hungary

DEATH 20 SEP 1943 • District VII, Budapest, Hungary

great-grandfather

 

My work in progress Family Tree is reasonably detailed and is Public on Ancestry DNA - "Warman Family Tree" - Michael Warman

I cannot tell if we share a branch in our family trees.

 

Best wishes,

 

 

Michael Warman

michaelwarman@...
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