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Do civil registration records for mihalyfalva/valea lui mihai exist? Where would they be found?
Sarah Just
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Romanian passport
#romania
#records
#subcarpathia
joseph just
Is it possible to get an ancestor's passport or passport application from Romanian archives?
Sarah Just
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Invitation to JGSSN Zoom meeting: "Oceanic Journey to America – Traveling in Steerage Class” with Nancy Levin
#events
Ben Kempner
The Jewish Genealogy Society of Southern Nevada (JGSSN) invites you to a Zoom meeting at 1:00 p.m. (Pacific Standard Time) on Sunday, November 21: “"Oceanic Journey to America – Traveling in Steerage Class” with Nancy Levin. Members of JGSSN can attend for free. Non-members can pay $5.00 on the Donate webpage and complete the short form. Session Description: Nancy will discuss the experiences that passengers endured at all points of time - including actual reports from newspaper articles, interviews, etc. For those that arrived in the 1840s - the oceanic experiences were different than those that come in the 1870s, and different again, then those who arrived after the cholera epidemic in Hamburg and ensuing changes. About Nancy Levin: International lecturer; author; and full-time professional genealogist specializing in Jewish genealogy. Licensed by the Board for Certification of Genealogists since 1997. Speaker at annual NGS and Jewish genealogy international conferences (IAJGS); New England Historic and Genealogical Society; Hebrew College; community centers; libraries; and other venues. Author of chapters on immigration and naturalization in the Avotaynu Guide to Jewish Genealogy. BA, U. of Vermont; MBA, Northeastern U.
Ben Kempner Vice President, Jewish Genealogy Society of Southern Nevada
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Boston,MA Wyner Family Center for Jewish Heritage "At Home in the World: American Jewish Women Abroad, 1865-1940
#announcements
#usa
Jan Meisels Allen
The Wyner Family Jewish Heritage Center at the New England Historic Genealogical Society is holding a free webinar on October 26 at 6:00PM Eastern Time, At Home in the World: American Jewish Women Abroad, 1865-1940. Registration is required at: https://hubs.americanancestors.org/wyner-lecture-home-world
Presented by: Dr. Melissa R. Klapper
Join the Wyner Family Jewish Heritage Center (JHC) and Dr. Melissa R. Klapper for this exploration of the lives and travel experiences of American Jewish women in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. Interweaving stories about women represented in the JHC’s own archives, Dr. Klapper will discuss how at a time of prescribed roles for women, American Jewish women discovered independence and self-actualization as they traveled around the world.
Melissa R. Klapper is Professor of History and Director of Women's & Gender Studies at Rowan University. She is the author of Jewish Girls Coming of Age in America, 1860-1920 (NYU Press, 2005); Small Strangers: The Experiences of Immigrant Children in the United States, 1880-1925 (Ivan R. Dee, 2007); and Ballots, Babies, and Banners of Peace: American Jewish Women's Activism, 1890-1940 (NYU Press, 2013), which won the National Jewish Book Award in Women's Studies. Her most recent book is Ballet Class: An American History (Oxford University Press, 2020).
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Switzerland's Zurich Kunsthaus Museum Has Art Work to Bührle, Which Belonged to Jews During World War ll
#announcements
#holocaust
Jan Meisels Allen
A new, $220-million extension to the Kunsthaus Zurich, left, faces the museum’s original 19th-century building across a central Zurich square. Credit...©Luxwerk, Zurich
The Zurich Kunthaus Museum became the largest art museum in Switzerland with a new extension which includes the masterpieces once owned by Emil Georg Bührle, a Swiss industrialist who died in 1956 but whose dark legacy haunted the opening of the new $220-million extension. Bührle made his fortune by selling arms to Nazi Germany, and that he bought art that was looted by the regime, new revelations keep emerging.
The Swiss magazine “Beobachter, reported that Bührle employed hundreds of girls and young women from troubled backgrounds in slave-labor-like conditions in Switzerland as late as the 1950s. This month, the magazine said that in 1941, Bührle snapped up two Swiss spinning mills at bargain prices after their previous owners — Jews whose assets in Germany had been “aryanized” in forced sales — had fled to Argentina.”
“Now, 203 artworks belonging to the Foundation E. G. Bührle Collection, an organization set up by the industrialist’s family after his death, have entered the Kunsthaus collection on a 20-year loan. About 170 are on show in the new extension.
During World War II, his company produced weapons for both the Allies and Nazi Germany, and Bührle became the richest man in Switzerland. Though the Allies put his company on a blacklist after the war, the boycott was lifted in 1946 and the business continued to expand.
Between 1936 and 1956, Bührle bought more than 600 artworks — some of them looted from Jews by the Nazis. In 1948, the Swiss Supreme Court ordered him to return 13 pieces.
The Bührle Foundation itself began conducting provenance research in 2002, and the results are published on the foundation’s website (https://www.buehrle.ch/sammlung/) , though there is no detailed ownership history on the labels next to the paintings on display in the Kunsthaus.
Lukas Gloor, the director of the Bührle Foundation, said in an interview that ‘today, we can be sure that there is no looted art, in the strictest sense, in the collection,’ but added, ‘we do not rule out the possibility that new information could come to light.’
One such work is an 1879 Cézanne work, ‘Paysage,’ The foundation’s website doesn’t mention that its prewar owners, Martha and Berthold Nothmann, were Jewish; it says the couple ‘left Germany in 1939,’ instead of spelling out that they fled persecution.
Monet’s 1880 ‘Poppy Field Near Vétheuil’ is another contested work. Bührle bought it in 1941 at a Swiss gallery for less than half its market value, according to a 2012 report by the historian Thomas Buomberger. It had been offered for sale by Hans Erich Emden, the son of a German Jewish department-store mogul whose assets in Germany were expropriated by the Nazis after he moved to Switzerland. The foundation rejected a claim from Emden’s heirs, arguing that the sale was not a result of Nazi persecution. Gloor said that cases in which German Jews sold assets while exiled in Switzerland should not necessarily be considered sales under duress. “Switzerland was not German-occupied; there was no persecution in Switzerland,” he said. ‘People were free to sell, or not sell.’
With the collection’s move to the Kunsthaus, responsibility for provenance research now rests with the museum, though any restitution decision would fall to the foundation as the owner, Gloor said.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/11/arts/design/kunsthaus-zurich-buhrle-collection.html
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Re: Why St. Louis?
#usa
Judith, where is your Singer surname from? Also Lithuania? If so, is it near Paneveys? My Singer family comes from Birzai, but most of the Singers who remained there were murdered in the Holocaust. Wondering if we have a connection.
Dan Singer.
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Re: Ustilug ?
#galicia
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Re: Searching in Zaklikow (Poland)
#poland
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JRI-Poland has offline records for Zaklikow.
To learn about offline records for your town, write to [townname]@jri-poland.org
Stanley Diamond, M.S.M.
Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.
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Help deciphering a civil wedding certificate, Johannesburg (1936)
#southafrica
This is my Great Grandmother's civil wedding certificate. I am trying to find out more about the Rabbi who officiated (surname - Woolf, first name unclear, perhaps Wm. denoting William?) and to identify the synagogue in which the marriage might have taken place. Does anyone have any information pertaining to a Rabbi Woolf, who officiated marriages in Johannesburg in the 1930s? Help deciphering the address listed for my Great Grandmother would be helpful. It looks to be in the Yeoville suburb of Johannesburg, but I can't read the rest. It may give a clue as to the likely shul in which the marriage would have taken place. The Race/Ras is also listed as E - does anyone know what this refers to in civil wedding certificates in South Africa at that time?
Matthew Owen. London, UK
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Re: Chiena?
#names
estherahr@...
My greatgrandmother was Chiena (Herschman). She lived in Vitebsk, then Lithuaina and afterwards in Beliki Luki, now Russia. We are descendents of the Vilna Gaon. I was told that this name is common in his family. Evidently it was the name of one of his daughters. My father said it was derived from the name Chana.
Esther (H[G]erschman) Rechtschafner Kibbutz Ein-Zurim, ISRAEL
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Re: NORDHEIMER Family of Memmelsdorf in Unterfranken
#germany
Ralph Baer
It took me a couple of days to get over the shock of receiving an answer to a post which I made to GerSIG back in 2003. It was one of a series of about 40 posts I made over about a year at the suggestion of the moderator John Lowens. I will reply to Stefan Rohrbacher in detail as well as the other posters and the people who emailed me over the next few days.
Ralph N. Baer RalphNBaer@... Washington, DC -- Ralph N. Baer RalphNBaer@... Washington, DC
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Re: Looking for info on towns: Bartfeld & Bardejov
#austria-czech
Dan Rottenberg
Also check out the yizkor book for Bardejov/ Bartfeldt, published by Abraham Grusgott of Brooklyn, about 1980. In English and Yiddish.
Dan Rottenberg Philadelphia PA
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Re: Beth Moses Cemetery in Bronx, NY
#usa
#photographs
Correction to original post.
Beth Moses Cemetery is in West Babylon, NY. (I confused the cemetery location for where they lived in the Bronx). Sorry and thank you for the correction. I created a memorial on findagrave.com for the 2 people I am looking for at Beth Moses Cemetery. I have also requested a photo there but a lot of times my requests are unanswered which is why I posted here. Thanks, Rebecca Parmet drparmet@... Researching surnames: Lachman, Lakhman, Buchdrucker, Hirschmann, Milgendler/Milander
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Mark Halpern
Hi Ronald:
On 2021-10-18 2:55 pm, gensurgmd wrote:
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Re: Beth Moses Cemetery in Bronx, NY
#usa
#photographs
Sherri Bobish
Rebecca,
As Renee said, Beth Moses Cemetery is on Long Island. Where did you get the information on the name and location of the cemetery? Have you searched these sources of possible tombstone photos on-line? JewishGen Online Worldwide Burial Registry https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/ FindAGrave https://www.findagrave.com/ Good luck in your search, Sherri Bobish Searching: RATOWSKY / CHAIMSON (Ariogala / Ragola, Lith.) WALTZMAN / WALZMAN (Ustrzyki Dolne / Istryker, Pol.) LEVY (Tyrawa Woloska, Pol.) LEFFENFELD / LEFENFELD / FINK, KALTER (Daliowa/ Posada Jasliska, Pol.) BOJDA / BERGER (Tarnobrzeg, Pol.) SOKALSKY / SOLON / SOLAN / FINGER(MAN) (Grodek, Bialystok, Pol.) BOBISH / APPEL (Odessa?)
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Searching in Zaklikow (Poland)
#poland
Dear friends and cousins,
at my wits' end. I have a 92 year old second cousin by marriage in Uruguay who is begging me to find out something about his mother and siblings from Zaklikow circa 1900. I don't find anything on JRI that looks promising. I assume that whatever records may exist are not on line. He has found out that the records about his siblings were sent ca. 1944 to Kielce (Sandomierz office, according to my cousin). Anyone know how to write there and find out if there is something on his family? Suggestions welcome. B'shalom Wendy Griswold, Pittsfield MA Searching: Galicia: Blitz, Pfeiffer, Rothman (any spellings) Nowy Sacz area: Einhorn, Wenzelberg, Shifuldrem (any spellings) Ekaterinoslaw Dwass (any spellings)
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gensurgmd
Good afternoon,
My family was from Poswolocheskay and Skalat. Are there records there to be found concerning these towns. If so, please let me know and send your fee schedule. I will send you what I know so far. Boshoi spaceba Ronald Kaplan Atlanta, Georgia
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Re: Chiena?
#names
billie.stein@...
I knew a Chiena in New York. In English, she spelled it Cheyenne.
Billie Stein Givatayim, Israel
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Re: Chiena?
#names
binyaminkerman@...
There is a name Chayna pronounced "khayna" that does seem to commonly be paired with the name Chaya.
I would guess that the name is related to the Hebrew word חן "khayn" meaning grace or charm. I'm not sure if this is the same name as what Carol and Helen mentioned since that Chiena seems to have three syllables. -- Binyamin Kerman Baltimore MD Researching: KERMAN Pinsk SPIELER Lodz, Zloczew, Belchatow SEGALL, SCHWARTZ Piatra Neamt
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SCJGS invites you to- O'Canada: Researching Your Canadian Jewish Ancestors from Afar with Marion Werle on October 24
#announcements
#events
#canada
#records
Leah Kushner
Santa Cruz Jewish Genealogy Society invites you to Sunday, October, 24. 2021, 1pm Pacific Time Zone/4pm Eastern . Register:Here This presentation concentrates on internet-based Canadian family research that can be done from virtually anywhere. The focus is on the major years of Jewish immigration to Canada after 1880 and ranges from Jewish farming settlements in the Canadian West to immigration to larger cities. The presentation covers the major sources of Canadian genealogical records– government, general genealogy websites, educational and other institutions – and includes ship manifests, naturalization records, Canadian census and census substitutes, city directories, voter lists, 1940 residence records, Jewish communal institutions, vital records, cemetery data, military records and local histories.
Contact: Leah Kushner President, SCJGS
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