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Re: Tracking down family in Lithuania!
#lithuania
Russ Maurer
jackiebaron7, Steve Goldberg,
The vast majority of Lithuanian vital records up to the WWWI era were filmed by the Family History Library and are posted on familysearch. However, they are not indexed on familysearch. They were indexed by LitvakSIG and may be searched, free of charge, through the LitvakSIG All-Lithuania Database (https://www.litvaksig.org/search-ald/). The LitvakSIG results, in many cases, include a pointer to the familysearch film, but even those that don't (or say "not filmed") may have been filmed by now. For help in navigating to the correct image once you have the right film, see https://www.litvaksig.org/all-lithuania-database/fhl-film-navigation/. If you become a qualified donor to one of the LitvakSIG district research groups (eg, Kaunas) you will have access to all the record indexes for that district in the form of Excel spreadsheets, which facilitate search. https://www.litvaksig.org/membership-and-contributions/join-and-contribute/ One tip regarding the name BARON - be sure to also search BARAN. In handwritten records, A and O are often hard to distinguish. There are hundreds of vital records in the database for both versions of this name. Russ Maurer Records Acquisition & Translation coordinator, LitvakSIG vhrproject@...
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This Sunday: From Cobblers to Cosmopolitans: The Baruch Lousada Story
#sephardic
contact@...
How did a family of local Portuguese cobblers become merchants on the world
stage? Julian Land tells the story of his research on the Baruch Lousada family. He will discuss nine members of this illustrious lineage, as we follow the Baruch Lousada from brushes with the Inquisition to the founding of Bevis Marks, commercial success in the Caribbean, and ennoblement in Spain. The family is a classic example of how Sephardic families spread across the globe. Julian Land trained in theoretical physics and mathematics followed by a thirty year career in commercial client relations with Australia's national science research corporation, CSIRO. He descends for the Lousada family and runs the popular www.barrow-lousada.org website. The meeting is on 24 October 2021 at 11am in LA, 2pm NYC, 7pm London, 8pm Paris/Amsterdam and 9pm Jerusalem. Patrons can join us on Zoom. The link is shared at our Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/sephardi Everyone is invited to join us for free at: https://www.youtube.com/SephardicGenealogyAndHistory/ Please subscribe to the YouTube channel. It helps us a lot and reminds you when we are going live! Best wishes, David Mendoza and Ton Tielen Sephardic World
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Re: Tracking down family in Lithuania!
#lithuania
ramot418@...
I too would like to know if there are any Lithuanian vital records (birth, marriage, death) on-line, similar to the Latvian Raduraksti site, for example. I already know about the Revision Lists and the Litvak SIGs.
-- Steve Goldberg Jerusalem, Israel Researching: Sagan/Shagan family from Veliuona (Velon), Lithuania Goldberg family from Vidukle, Lithuania Susselovitch/Zuselovitch family from Raseiniai (Rossein), Lithuania
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JGS Toronto. Free Virtual Meeting. Jacob and the Mandolin Adventure. Anne Dublin. Wednesday, 27 October 2021, at 7:30 p.m. ET.
Jerry Scherer
JEWISH GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY OF TORONTO
Jacob and the Mandolin Adventure Jewish Orphans from Poland to Ontario
Speaker: Anne Dublin
VIRTUAL MEETING: Join from Home
Wednesday, 27 October 2021, at 7:30 p.m. ET.
PRESENTATION: Anne Dublin will speak about researching and writing her historical novel for young people, Jacob and the Mandolin Adventure (Second Story Press, 2021). Through an interactive PowerPoint presentation, Anne will describe the voyage of thirty-eight Jewish orphans from Poland to Georgetown, Ontario, in 1927, their lives at the Canadian Jewish Farm School, and their concert in Carnegie Hall, New York. The themes of friendship, antisemitism, and music are the threads that are interwoven in her presentation. This novel was inspired by historical events about Morris Saxe, who is sometimes called the “Canadian Schindler.”
BIOGRAPHY: Anne Dublin was born in a displaced persons camp in Salzburg, Austria. She and her family came to Canada in 1948 as part of the "Garment Workers' Scheme," or "Tailor Project." Anne grew up in Toronto, and attended York University and the University of Wisconsin. She was an elementary school teacher and librarian for over 25 years in Nairobi, Kingston, Winnipeg, and Toronto. Anne writes biographies and historical novels for young people, as well as short stories for adults. She has won or been nominated for a number of awards, including the Canadian Jewish Book Award and the Canadian Jewish Literary Award (Youth). She is presently working on a collective biography of Jewish women.
To register, please go to jgstoronto.ca/register You will then receive an immediate acknowledgement plus the link to access the event on 27 October.
The presentation will be recorded. It will be available to JGS Toronto members in the “Members Only” section of the Society website, a few days after the event. It will also be available to non-member registrants for one week after the event in the “Registration” location.
To our guests, consider joining our membership for only $40.00 per year by Clicking Here or consider a donation by Clicking Here to assist us in continuing our mission providing a forum for the exchange of genealogical knowledge and information. (Canadians receive a CRA tax receipt.)
info@... www.jgstoronto.ca Tel: 647-247-6414 twitter: jgsoftoronto facebook: Jewish Genealogical Society of Toronto
Jerry Scherer Vice President, Communications
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JGS Toronto. Free Virtual Ukraine SIG Meeting. Jewish Life in Ukraine. Marla Waltman. Monday, 25 October at 7:30 p.m. ET.
#ukraine
#announcements
Jerry Scherer
JEWISH GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY OF TORONTO
UKRAINE SIG Jewish Life in Ukraine: A selected history from 800 to 1914 Speaker: Marla Waltman VIRTUAL MEETING: Join from Home Monday, 25 October at 7:30 p.m. ET.
The JGS Toronto Ukraine Special Interest Group (SIG) provides an opportunity for members and registered guests to focus on subjects of interest for those with ancestors from Ukraine. This presentation, “Jewish Life in Ukraine: A selected history from 800 to 1914”, will provide an introduction to the history of Ukraine as it pertains to Jewish settlement, from early recorded records, through the years of the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth and the Russian Empire, to 1914 and the start of the First World War. Given the length of the period covered, the presentation will examine the major political events and economic realities that had an impact on Jews and their neighbours. Its emphasis will be on the lands now part of modern Ukraine that were annexed by Catherine II (known as Catherine the Great by Russians) for the Russian Empire in 1772, and known as the Pale of Settlement. Marla Waltman, a former President of JGS Toronto and current Board member, was born in Toronto. Her paternal grandparents emigrated to Canada from Ukraine in the 1920s following other family members who arrived as early as 1905. Marla received a B.A. in History and Anthropology from York University and an M.A. in History from Queen’s University. Over a 32 year career, she worked in Ottawa as an archivist at Library and Archives Canada, policy advisor on heritage institutions and the Canadian music industry at Canadian Heritage, policy chief at the Canadian Literacy Secretariat, and Chief of the Culture Statistics Program at Statistics Canada. Her passion is genealogical research and sharing what she has learned with others. To register, please go to jgstoronto.ca/register You will then receive an immediate acknowledgement plus the link to access the event on 25 October.
This month’s Ukraine Special Interest Group (SIG) programme is open to both members and non-members. The recording for this SIG will only be available to JGS Toronto members in the “Members Only” section of the Society website. As per our policy, we will return to keeping future SIG programmes and their recordings open only to JGS Toronto members. To our guests, consider joining our membership for only $40.00 per year by Clicking Here or consider a donation by Clicking Here to assist us in continuing our mission providing a forum for the exchange of genealogical knowledge and information. (Canadians receive a CRA tax receipt.)
info@... www.jgstoronto.ca Tel: 647-247-6414 twitter: jgsoftoronto facebook: Jewish Genealogical Society of Toronto
Jerry Scherer Vice President, Communications
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Renee Steinig
Whatever's entered on the manifest is a place name. It has nothing to
do with the family's religion. It may well have been misspelled, like many places entered on ship manifests. You might try searching the JewishGen Gazetteer (https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp) for localities containing the letters ANY. Set the search so it will show distance from the city of Suwalki and when you get results, search by distance. Then look through the results for possibilities, paying attention to the types of characters in the handwritten entry -- for example, there are no ascending lower-case letters (b, d, f, h, k, l, t). One possibility: Zwierzany, Poland. Renee Renee Stern Steinig Dix Hills NY genmaven@... -- David Rosen <rosens@...> wrote: You can find the Nov 3, 1908 New York ship arrival for this family on Ancestry.com. The name is indexed as Janos Nakstutis. Unfortunately the handwriting on this list does not make the place of birth any clearer. --- Geoffrey Makstutis wrote: ... I've got a copy of a ship's passenger list with a group that shares my surname (and, apparently, there are DNA links). I'm trying to figure out where these individuals are from. This is the page showing the passenger list: https://www.public-juling.de/passagierlisten/listen.php?ArchivIdent=STAB-24.10.1908_4,57/5-60_M&start=151&pers=&ankunftshafen=New%20York&abreisehafen=Bremen&lang=en The individuals (a family) are lines 104-109. The 'State or Province' as Suwalki makes sense (a 'county' in northern Poland). Russland makes sense, as at the time much of this region was within the Russian sphere of influence. Jewszany is the part that is giving me trouble. It doesn't appear to be a city (at least I can find nothing). I've seen 'zhany' appear in place names throughout Central Europe, so I wonder if 'zany' might be a variant. The more interesting part, for me, is 'Jewes'. I'm wondering whether this indicates that they were Jewish. In my family research, I've found a few things that point to the possibility that my father's family may have converted to Catholicism when they arrived in the US, but I've never found anything definitely points to this. So, does anyone know what "Jeweszany" might mean? Or where "Jeweszany" might be?
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Acacia and Bayside Cemetery Photographing
#usa
#photographs
E Feinstein
Looking to find someone available to find, locate and photograph several tombstones in the Queens Acacia and Bayside cemeteries.
They are not online anywhere. Please let me know. Eric FEINSTEIN Clifton, New Jersey MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately
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Tracking down family in Lithuania!
#lithuania
jackiebaron7@...
Hi all! I have narrowed down my family roots to Kovno, Lithuania. The surname was Baron and they also married into a family with surname Rosenkowitz, also from Kovno, Lithuania. Most of the info we have was obtained from ancestry.com from the US records and death certificates and maybe a few of the ship manifests. The Baron and Rosebkowitz came to the US around 1890. Any tips for digging through the Lithuanian records? I am missing a lot of siblings of the original Barons both in the US and in Lithania.
Thanks!
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In several recent posts, people asked "Why did my ancestors go to [location in USA]?" to which several suggested looking in the records of the Industrial Removal Office (IRO), housed at the AJHS.
Subscribers of Avotaynu will note my IRO article published in the Summer 2021 edition, "Why Did They Go There? Finding Answers in the Industrial Removal Office Records" I'm a bit obsessed about this record set, and the article provides some history and analysis of the program, and describes what you might find in the records, as well as steps to take to access and see them for yourself. The records of the IRO are a rich source of details about individuals and about small Jewish communities across the USA. Can't find a family member? You still might be able to find out how much that person might have earned in a week, or the cost of housing in 1906 - pieces of information that provide context for the time and place our ancestors lived. I hope the article, and this on-going discussion, will help people find out more! Renée Carl Washington DC rkcarl@...
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GOLDBERG from Zychlin, Leczyca or Lodz, Poland
#poland
rv Kaplan
I've found a new family branch, but it's Goldberg - so not easy to narrow down!
Malka Linderman married Jakub Goldberg and had 8 children in Zychlin in northern Poland between 1863-1888:
Sura Rojza
Icek Mosiek
Marya
Eliasz
Ester
Hersz
Cypra
Hillel Majer
Icek Mosiek Goldberg married Mindla Laja Bechler and they had 13 children, born in Kutno, Leczyca, Zychlin and Lodz in Poland between 1889-1914.
Eliasz Goldberg married Estera Basz Zalcberg and they had 3 children, born in Lodz:
Chaim Jonas Goldberg
Jakob
Malka
Chaim Jonas Goldberg married Chana Laja Kohen in Lodz in 1935.
Looking for information about any descendants of these people. I presume many of them died in the Holocaust, but some may have emigrated before the war.
It's a long shot, but....
thanks
Harvey Kaplan
Glasgow, Scotland
MODERATOR NOTE Please reply privately KAPLAN, FAYN, FEIN, FINE, BARSD, GRADMAN - Ariogala, Josvainiai, Kedainiai, Krakes, Seta, Veliuona, Grinkiskis, Lithuania FELMAN, MIL(L)ER, ROSENBLOOM - Kamenets-Podolsk, Shatava, Balyn, Ukraine TROPP, STORCH - Kolbuszowa, Cmolas,Galicia LINDERMAN, LINDEMAN, LOPATKA, SZLAKMAN – Kutno and Plock, Poland GOLDBERG - Kutno, Zychlin, Leczyca, Lodz in Poland
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Viewmate translation request - French
#france
#translation
Elynn Boss
I've posted a record in French for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.
Elynn Boss
Frisco, Texas, United States bossgen_1@... Searching: Abrahams (New York); Gichtin/Gechtin/Gertin (Buffalo, New York and Canada); Dreishpoon/Dreyshpun (New York, Russia, France), Danovitch/Daynes (New York, Massachusetts, Poland/Russia) and associated branches. -- Elynn Boss Frisco, Texas, United States bossgen_1@... Searching: Abrahams (New York); Gichtin/Gechtin/Gertin (Buffalo, New York and Canada); Dreishpoon (New York, Russia, France), Danovitch/Daynes (New York, Massachusetts, Poland/Russia) and associated branches.
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Acohen116@...
I’ve run into a brick wall finding out anything about my maternal grandmother’s family in Orynin, Khmelnytsky, Ukraine. Her anglicized married name was Mary Gold Kutler. From a family member’s naturalization record, I know that my grandmother’s original maiden name - her father’s last name - was Goltzzeker, a name I’m able to research on jewishgen.org (though, so far, without much in the way of definitive results). But, I’ve gotten nowhere at all researching my grandmother’s mother’s maiden name, “Cunk,” according to a U.S. social security application. Is that name - or something like it - familiar to anyone here?
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Gail H. Marcus
Just wanted to thank everyone who responded, both online and privately. There were several very useful takeways, particularly: 1) several people noted that the rules changed and the authorities handling citizenship applications did not check the manifests for immigrations before 1906 or 1907; and 2) a number of others reported both the kind of name discrepancy I am dealing with, as well as discrepancies in reported dates of arrival. It's good to know I'm not the only one! Several people also made helpful suggestions about other avenues I might pursue, such as possible reports of former names in Social Security applications, searching for other relatives, etc. While I have not explored all avenues yet, and more than one person pointed out that the prospects of success might be slim, I've added these to my to-do list. Thanks again to all, and good luck to those of you who are still trying to unravel similar mysteries!
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“Live From Poland!” On November 10, 2021, JGSPBC will present “Jewish Cemeteries in Poland”, an update by Witold Wrzosinski.
#announcements
#events
#poland
Walter Rosenthal
“Live From Poland!” On November 10, 2021, JGSPBC will present “Jewish Cemeteries in Poland”, an update by Witold Wrzosinski.
“Live From Poland!” On November 10, JGSPBC (Jewish Genealogical Society of Palm Beach) will host a Zoom presentation “Jewish Cemeteries in Poland”, a live update by Witold Wrzosinski. To request a Zoom link, log in to the JGSPBC website, www.jgspbc.org, click on “Register for November”. Members of JGSPBC can attend free, guests can use the “Guest Payment” link, pay a $5.00 fee. Once registered, the Zoom link to the presentation will be provided. SESSION DESCRIPTION:
Witold Wrzosincki is the co-founder and co-director of the Foundation for the Documentation of Jewish Cemeteries in Poland. His live Zoom presentation will describe the open access, searchable online database which includes photographs and transcriptions from over 100 Polish cemeteries.
Walter Rosenthal communityoutreach@...
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Photo needed from Chevra Bikur Cholim Cemetery
#general
Hello, is anyone going to Chevra Bikur Cholim Cemetery in Phildelphia, PA? It is located at 1853 Bridge Street. I tried calling and found 3 different phone numbers but they are all disconnected. I need a picture of the Hebrew sides of the gravestone for Nessa Mink in Lot #106.
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Re: Help deciphering a civil wedding certificate, Johannesburg (1936)
#southafrica
Adrian Freedman
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On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 10:17 AM, MosheO wrote:
with regard to your query, E = European = white The address I read as Hunter street Yeoville. There was as far as I can recall no Winter Street I found an article on a a Rabbi "Willie"Woolf i doubt its the same but worth a follow up Best wishes Adrian Freedman 
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Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
"I've got a copy of a ship's passenger list with a group that shares my surname...Jewszany [the town name] is the part that is giving me trouble."
There are no extant Bremen Passenger Lists. These are someone's transcription of what they think the passenger list says. I suggest you look at the actual New York Passenger List Manifest and see what is there. Everyone digitizing or indexing anything makes errors, and you might find a reasonable place name if you look at the actual list. I recommend stevenmorse.org for doing this. Since you have the name of the ship and the date, it will be easy. Sally Bruckheimer Princeton, NJ
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Susan&David
You can find the Nov 3, 1908 New York ship arrival for this family
on Ancestry.com. The name is indexed as Janos Nakstutis.
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Unfortunately the handwriting on this list does not make the place of birth any clearer. David Rosen Boston, MA
On 10/21/2021 3:51 AM, Geoffrey
Makstutis wrote:
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Re: Chiena?
#names
Elliott
Of course Chiena or Khiena is a real name. My mother’s Hebrew/Yiddish name was Khiena. I think the Hebrew is חיינה. At least, that is the way we put it on her matzevah. She was called “Khienkah” by her family. She was named after a relative on her father’s-mother’s side, Khienka Davidofsky (1845 - unk). If I’m wrong, I’m wrong, but for now it’s chiseled in granite.
Elliott Terman
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Re: Why Alabama?
#lithuania
#usa
Jews were drawn to the south for the same reasons that Jews were drawn to other areas of the country (i.e., not NYC). Whether it be business or work opportunities. You can study the emigration patterns of people who had relatives and/or incentives to understand just how people did emigrate.
One business that many Jews in the South did engage in is the dry goods business. I recall Soupy Sales (Milton Supman) telling the joke that his dad had outfitted all of the Klan in North Carolina with white sheets. David Cherson
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