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Jan Meisels Allen
The Arolsen Archives has posted several new items of interest:
When: November 9, 5:30–9:00 p.m.
Where: Virtual Open Archive – (digital space of the Arolsen Archives, link sent after registration for event)
Recording the prisoners’ names is a way for participants to actively remember these events, especially
the deportation of 30,000 Jews to concentration camps, 1,000 of whom did not survive the camps or died
from the effects of their imprisonment.
The exhibition focuses on the fates of persecutees from Spain who fought against Franco in the Spanish
Civil War, were arrested by the German occupying forces while they were in exile in France, and were
then deported to concentration camps.
The exhibition is on display at the Palacio de la Audiencia in Soria until November 11.
Soria is a city in north-central Spain sits within the autonomous region of Castile y León, just northwest of Madrid and just south of La Rioja.
To get the #stolenmemory exhibit go to: https://stolenmemory.org/en/
15-30.11 Muzeum Podlaskie in Białystok, ul. Rynek Kościuszki 10.
Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
Please may I request a translation from Russian (full, literal please) of a Wyszkow Death record. The original document is on ViewMate at the following address:
Please respond using the online ViewMate form.
Jeff A Skinnon
The attached inscription is written on the back of my grandparents' wedding photo. Finesilver is my grandfather's family name .. he was born in Bessarabia. I cannot decipher or recognise the next word. I am hoping it could be the town of his birth. A picture of the back of the photo is on ViewMate at the following address:
Can anyone who knows this part of the world venture a guess as to the meaning of the middle word or (even) name?
Please respond using the online ViewMate form:
Jeff A Skinnon
Hi Siggers. My mother was born 1919 in Mandok, Hungary, to Mendel and Bertha Jakobovits. I believe she had a first cousin, Ernest Jacobs, living in the UK in 1961. I’m hoping to find his decendents. Ernest’s father could be the son of, one of these three brothers, of Mendel. They were all born in Repedea Romania, between 1881/1893.
The last name at that time was spelled Jacobovits. The brothers are , Hersh, Mojse,
and Marko. These birth records are the only records of these men that I have found, other than Mendels marriage record. These birth records, are in the Romanian Archive.
Of course I would love to know anything more about all of them and other descendents, but I doubt any of them survived the Holocaust.
I would appreciate any help and guidance.
Debbie Klein Brown
Hungary, Braun, Klein, Jakobovits, Weiman, Grosz
I am working with three different families, descendants of three people we believe may be related, possibly siblings:
• Lizzie Dickler / Leah Schwartzstein (1851-1925)
• Sam Schwartz / Solomon (Samuel) Schwartzstein / (1861-1952)
• Joseph Schwartz/ Joseph Schwarzman / Josef Schwarzstein (1867-1921).
Available records report fathers' names as Manis, Munish, Moyshe, or Emanuel. Home town locations reported are Tarnowke, Ternifke, Tirowken, Ternovsky (pointing to Ternivka, Ukraine).
We've identified more than 35 of their descendants who match each other through DNA testing. We're trying to identify other descendants and place them either in one of these trees or other potential branches. We encourage anyone who believes they might be related or have been linked to other Schwartzstein descendants to upload their DNA results to GEDMatch and join our Schwartz / Schwartzstein / Schwarzman ancestor project. (Go to https://www.gedmatch.com/, login in, find Ancestor Projects under free tools and search "schwartz" see our entry). We have engaged a professional genetic genealogist to review the tests and data we've collected so far.
If you have questions, feel free to contact me privately.
Surnames / Towns: Jaffe / Suchowola, Poland ; Stein (Sztejnsapir) / Bialystok and Rajgrod, Poland ; Joroff (Jaroff, Zarov) / Chernigov, Ukraine ; Schwartz (Schwarzman?, Schwarzstein?) / Ternivka ; Koshkin / Snovsk, Ukraine ; Rappoport / ? ; Braun / Wizajny, Suwalki, Poland, Ludwinowski / Wizajny, Suwalki, Poland
I've posted a vital record in Russian and Polish for which I need a translation of the Polish. It is the marriage record of Izrael Szyja BLUMENSZTOK and Chaia UNFLAJS. The actual record is in Russian, but the writing in the left margin is Polish and I would like to know what it says. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.
Phoenix, Arizona USA
I've posted 4 vital records in Russian for which I need translations. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses ...
1. Birth record of Chaia UNFLAJS: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM95690&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca72bf3865a6e44e3f71808d99717204f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637706947850531642%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=q9ISk%2F2cNuqdGosc88zuG0dls0PZCAGiIs%2BJNLJ%2FI%2Fk%3D&reserved=0
2. Marriage record of BLUMENSZTOK - UNFLAJS: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM95688&data=04%7C01%7C%7C4c2a9c9bf24745741c9208d997171ab9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637706947760202682%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=n4OMR%2Bd36QVYdyzWtCEO2xZbca77verk94teRW4N3hQ%3D&reserved=0
3. Marriage record of CUKIERMAN - GIERTLER: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM95683&data=04%7C01%7C%7C616f7d1958e44ecb1bf708d9971718f1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637706947724352943%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=qkBSQIkAC2tNAh%2FatOo7cq53EGs9Uk1wL3G2JkET3c0%3D&reserved=0
4. Death record of Izaak Wolf BLUMENSZTOK: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM95652&data=04%7C01%7C%7C72ad73211f2b4c91069e08d99716ef56%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637706947025457519%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=9psyxWMy8gg9285xA6qVxTa4z%2FFzxh96lgXcyrYnAFg%3D&reserved=0
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.
Phoenix, Arizona USA
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George (Naftali) Muenz
The Jewish Genealogy Society of Colorado presents Jennifer Mendlsohn "No You Don't Really Have 7,900 4th Cousins: Getting Started with Ashkenazi Jewish DNA" #dna
The Jewish Genealogy Society of Colorado
"No You Don't Really Have 7,900 4th Cousins: Getting Started with Ashkenazi Jewish DNA"
Please Remember that Daylight Savings Time has Ended.
Sunday November 7, 2021
9:30 AM to 10:00 AM Mountain Time Schmear, Schmooze, and Share
10 AM to 12:00 PM Program
9:30 AM to 10:00 AM Schmear, Schmooze, and Share
Program starts promptly at 10 AM
DNA has the potential to be an essential and exciting genealogical tool. But many Jewish testers find their DNA results completely overwhelming and unnavigable. Based on the popular that has garnered over 110,000 views, this talk will help those with Jewish heritage learn to make sense of their DNA results. We’ll cover why our match lists are so large, (hello, endogamy!), why all our matches seem to match each other (endogamy, again!), and how to spot the meaningful matches and separate them from the faux ones. Using real-life examples of DNA success, you’ll learn techniques that will help you learn to work effectively with DNA to expand your tree.
Jennifer Mendelsohn is a seasoned journalist and ghostwriter whose work has appeared in The New York Times, The Washington Post, Time, People, Slate, and USA Today. A native Long Islander now based in Baltimore, Mendelsohn serves on the board of the Jewish Genealogy Society of Maryland and is the administrator of Facebook’s Jewish genetic genealogy group. A member of the Association of Professional Genealogists, she is the creator of the movement known as #resistancegenealogy, a project that uses genealogical and historical records to fight disinformation and honor America’s immigrant past.
A veteran of many successful unknown parent searches, she was featured in the 2019 bestseller Inheritance by Dani Shapiro. Her work has received international media attention, including being featured on , The New Yorker, The Washington Post and Yahoo News.
Free for members of the Jewish Genealogy Society of Colorado
To become a member please go to
$5 for guests Please register at
Ellen Beller JGSCO President
Naftali from Sveksna #lithuania
Tomorrow is Naftali's 97 birthday. Naftalai is one of the 6 people from Sveskna, Lithuania that suvived the Holocaust. He now lives inSydney Australia with his wife Hana.She comes from a Shtetl near Svevksna ; but her family went to Australia before the Holocaust. Ihave ben corcspomnding with them for quite a few yeas and feel asif they are may family.Perhaps? I am so interested in Sveksna and wrote about it and organized a website for the Sveksna that was, for my Grandfather -Zacharia Marcus came from there.
Possible descendancy from Reb. Chaim of Volozhin #rabbinic
A deceased greatuncle of mine wrote a note stating that his maternal
grandmother was a descendant of Reb Chaim of Volozhin. I've checked
several published trees and have not found any mention of her. There
are family lore that we may be connected through R' Chaim's son
(Itzaleh)'s daughter who married a LANDAU. According to published
biographies, the LANDAU couple died relatively young during Itzaleh'
lifetime . Again according to family lore, Itzaleh took our
ancestress to her marriage canopy as her parents had died.
My (above) great great grandmother was Sarah Hinde (Schatz?) who
married Shlomo KANTOR of Pinsk. When Shlomo passed away suddenly, she
made aliya to Jerusalem with their 4 orphaned children. The son, Chaim
Dov, became well-known as the Mashgiach of the Yekev (wineery) in
Zichron Yacov. My great grandmother married Yacov Gedalia SCHECHTER of
I would be happy to hear from anyone knowledgeable as to Reb. Chaim's
tree if they could confirm the above.
From what I have learned, another sister of Chaim Dov married
ROSTOWSKI, who seems to have been a descendant of Reb. Chaim's
brother, Shlomo Zalman. Its possible that my greatuncle was confused
by the fact that his mother's sister's husband was connected to the
Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem
You can try here https://www.buenosaires.gob.ar/tramites/solicitud-de-partidas# if the person was born in Capital Federal. The page has instructions about how to proceed. However, it might take time and not always do they do a proper research in their archive.
Liliana Weintraub - Buenos Aires
Publishing a Family History Book #general
A short while back, a member sought help with regard to publishing a family history book of some 600 pages. I cannot remember who it was and I have been over zealous in clearing out my emails.
On reflection, there were many comments including my own about the hazards of self-publishing and I have been wondering if the original poster gave up heart or took the advice to take up the offer from Nina Schwartz. Either way, it would be good to know the route taken (I may have missed it)
If the project is still in limbo, this is what I would do. This list is not exhaustive but it is the basis for a framework
1. Break down the project into manageable segments - perhaps 4 or 5 separate editions - you decide.
2. Put the relevant files into separate folders on your computer, Edition 1, Edition 2, etc, etc - have a robust backup regime.
3. Get the BookWright free software from Blurb and watch their tutorials.
4. Practice on Volume 1 until happy with the result.
5. Create a low-resolution PDF file for proofing - this is unsuitable for printing.
6. There is no commitment until the book is uploaded to the Blurb web site, if you are still not sure, the draft will be deleted after a shortish period but you will still have the project on your computer.
6. Decide on the cover type and paper quality (go for the best you can afford).
7. Before ordering the book, it's possible to purchase a high quality PDF that could be printable at home but I see no point in this unless to distribute digitally at low cost to family members.
8. Look for discounts on the Blurb web site, they are frequent and can range from 25% - 30% and occasionally higher.
9. Order a copy of volume 1 and if happy - proceed to Volume 2 and so on.
A reasonable level of computer literacy should be adequate to achieve excellent results.
If all this fails, hire a grandchild or Nina Schwartz
I hope this is of use to the original poster and anyone else contemplating a similar exercise. I used Blurb for a similar but much smaller project and was delighted with the result
Ask by a written letter the civil birth, dead, marriage registration bureau of the place.
I concur with the other commentaters-Gerson.Compare the first letter of the name with the "g" in Hamburg on the ship's manifest at the top of the page.
Argentinian citizens with a DNI number can request a digital copy of a birth/death/marriage record that took place in the city of Buenos Aires through this site - https://www.buenosaires.gob.ar/tramites/solicitud-de-partidas. One needs to know the exact spelling of the last name, otherwise they will not find it. It costs 650 Pesos (about 7 USD).
Nov.7 1:30-3:30pm EST-Sallyann Amdur Sack – What You Need to Know About Jewish Family Names. Free for JGS of Greater Boston members, $5:00 for non-members. Information at www.jgsgb.org
Samuel Kassow – Time Capsules Under the Rubble: The Ringelblum Archive in the Warsaw Ghetto. This program is co-sponsored with Hebrew College. It is free and open to the public, but people who are not JGS of Greater Boston members are asked to register at www.jgsgb.org.
Civil Registration records for Buenos Aires are not online.
The info file on Jewish Gen has information on the requesting of records
I had tried once to order a record from the US, but was unsuccessful. I finally paid a researcher to get me the record I needed. I wish you luck.
Secaucus NJ USA
HASSMAN, SONENTHAL, DAUERMAN, LUCHS - Drohobycz, Ukraine
HIRSCHHORN, GOLDSTEIN, BUCHWALD - Dolyna, Ukraine
HIRSCHHORN, STEIN, CAPLAN - Entre Rios & Buenos Aires, Arggentina
ELLMAN, COIRA, MAIDMAN - Minkovtsy, Ukraine
KAGLE, FASS - Ulanow, Poland
Looking at the handwriting on this and other pages of the manifest leads me to agree with name Gerson.toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 10/23/2021 6:21 PM, Diane Jacobs wrote:
Husband’s name looks like Gerson.
Hello All - wanted to pass along some reminders and announcements from the Jewish Genealogy Society of Pittsburgh.
On October 31st at 1pm Eastern (US) The Jewish Genealogy Society of Pittsburgh will be hosting "Ask The Experts" with Tammy Hepps, Caitlin Hollander, Jarrett Ross, and Michael Waas for our International Jewish Genealogy Month / Family History Month Program. The deadline to register in order to submit questions ahead of time has passed however there may be time for additional questions at the end. Anyone who has registered by the October 15 deadline has been sent a Google form to submit their question to the panel.
Registration will remain open until the time of the program.
Cost for this virtual program is $10 USD for non-JGS of Pittsburgh members and Free for members.
Please visit the event page for our panelists bio's and areas of expertise.
On November 14th at 11am Eastern (US) join us for our program with author Jess Wieble - “Dead Letters: Delivering Unopened Mail from a Pennsylvania Ghost Town”
On assignment for a small-town newspaper in rural Pennsylvania, rookie reporter Jessica Weible meets Joan Swigart, a creative fireball and “pioneer in print.” As the two women forge a relationship based on their passion for storytelling, Joan reveals a mystery that she had discovered years ago, but had never solved—a pile of dead letters found in an abandoned general store, just before it was torn down. Joan gives Jessica the letters, each stamped and dated over a hundred years ago, and encourages Jessica to investigate the untold stories of the people and places contained in each one.
Among the letters is a correspondence in Yiddish, which connects to a web of Jewish stories in Pittsburgh.
This program costs $5 per person. It’s free for Jewish Genealogy Society members. Please register online.
This is a hybrid program. Attendees can participate either online or in-person at the Heinz History Center. In-person attendance will be limited to the first 20 people who register. Social distancing will be enforced. Depending on public health conditions at the time of the program, we may revert to all-virtual format and send updated instructions to all registrants. Attendees in person will get a chance to see the actual letters.
On December 12th at 1pm Eastern (US) join us for our program with professional genealogist Janette Silverman - “Written in Stone: When Gravestones Lie”
As genealogists, we depend on gravestones to give us at least basic information about a decedent: name, for example, and perhaps years of birth and death. What happens when the gravestone doesn’t match other documents – how do you discover the facts? How do you interact with a cemetery to find graves when the gravestone isn’t in their database?
Dr. Janette Silverman is a professional genealogist, heading a team of researchers specializing in Eastern European and Jewish research at AncestryProGenealogists® the division of Ancestry® that does private client research. Her research on behalf of clients takes her all over the U.S. and Europe. Silverman holds a Doctorate in Jewish Studies from Spertus Institute. Her dissertation, “In Living Memory” explored her family’s journey from Europe to the U.S. from the 1880s to the 1920s, contextualizing their experiences.
Please visit the event page for more information and to register. This program costs $5 per person. It’s free for Jewish Genealogy Society members. Please register online.
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