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Re: FamilySearch - order documents #general

Lee Jaffe
 

Family History Library Lookup Service

https://www.familysearch.org/en/family-history-library/family-history-library-records-look-up-service

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Lee David Jaffe

Surnames / Towns:  Jaffe / Suchowola, Poland ; Stein (Sztejnsapir) / Bialystok and Rajgrod, Poland ; Joroff (Jaroff, Zarov) / Chernigov, Ukraine ; Schwartz (Schwarzman?, Schwarzstein?) / ? ;  Koshkin / Snovsk, Ukraine ; Rappoport / ? ; Braun / Wizajny, Suwalki, Poland,  Ludwinowski / Wizajny, Suwalki, Poland

 


Re: Kalman and Deborah ABRAMOWITZ #names

tararo@...
 

I am also searching for my Abramowitz family.  

Could you provide approximate birth-death dates for Kalman and Deborah and where they originated from.

I am looking for relatives of Tsvi Hirsch HlLevi Abramowtiz (born about 1845) and Eta/Yetta Smarkowitch. from Lativa (possibly Jelgava)  Five of the children came to the US:  Max,  Gurssie, Sarah, Abe, Sam.  Two went to South Africa but I don't know their names or what happened to them, and 2 sons and their families perished in the Holocaust. 

Thanks,
Tara Blieden Rothman


Offering Mount Zion Cemetery photos (Queens, NY) #photographs #usa

A. E. Jordan
 

A few people are asking about Mt Zion in Maspeth. Queens, NY so if the weather continues ok I am happy to make another trip back there to get photos.
 
Process I follow is fairly simple in offering to take photos for people.
 
You ID the grave from the cemetery's online database and send me the details. I take a photo and email it to you and in turn I appreciate a few dollars to help defer the expense of doing this for everyone, ie gasoline money.
 
I am happy to help out where I can, but please don't send me a generic name and ask me to find the person at the cemetery and please don't send me around the cemetery to find the 20 people named Jack Cohen because one of them might possibly be your long lost cousin. The cemetery is massive and a few people have asked me to do that and it is a very slow process that takes a lot of time and gasoline, etc.

Also if you are asking for an infant or child's grave please tell me. They are mostly in separate areas of the plots and a lot of those graves do not have markers.
 
Mount Zion has an online database. It is better if you search the name on their database versus the commercial Find a Grave because the position information and data is better at the cemetery's page.
 
Feel free to ask me questions via email and ask about other NYC area cemeteries because I will visit most of them as the summer progresses. There's a few I do not go to because of distance or safety issues.
 
Please respect the discussion group and send your specific requests to me privately by replying to this email or my email address aejordan at aol dot com.
 
Allan Jordan
New York




Re: Caribbean with Ashkenazi Jewish Dna #dna

Victoria Fisch
 

I have in my possession a book likely written in the 1950s (no publication date) entitled Jewish Monumental Inscriptions in Barbados, by E.M. Shilstone. It is a list of burials and headstone inscriptions and in glancing through it, I did come across the surname Burgos  / Burgoss - perhaps Burgess was an anglicization.

Regards,
Victoria Fisch
Sacramento CA


Resource to find Jewish demographics #records

Myra Fournier
 

I have been investigating the Jewish population in Brookline, MA for an article I am writing.  
Many "Genners" gave me suggestions to find democratic information, so I wanted to let you know about one valuable resource I stumbled upon - the online archive of American Jewish Yearbook. http://www.ajcarchives.org/main.php?GroupingId=40
Hard copies are also available at: https://www.springer.com/series/11193.

The yearbooks contain a wealth of data about Jewish civilization since 1899, including Jewish demographics by states, some cities, and some countries.

I have no affiliation with the publishers; am just providing an FYI because it was so helpful to me.

Myra Fournier
Bedford, MA
mjfourn@...


Re: Caribbean with Ashkenazi Jewish Dna #dna

Victoria Fisch
 

FamilySearch.org has some really good burial records in Barbados. If you can construct a family tree, you may be able to utilize their records. Searching for Burgos or Burgess, I found 180 hits under the parameters of death and burial, however, the hits appear to all be Burgess. It's possible you can find your family and work backwards.

Regards,
Victoria Fisch


Re: Mount Zion Cemetery Maspeth Queens NY #usa

alan moskowitz
 

I also have  gotten photos from them, just advise that you need to be able to read the headstones from the photos.
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Alan Moskowitz
New Jersey


Pre War handwritting Yiddish #yiddish

Jorge Frankon
 

I am interested in reading old handwritten Yiddish, especially coming from central west Poland and the "zone of transition" of Yiddish dialect at the north west from Warsaw, in the pre WWII years.
I have found a very interesting blog in https://blog.cjh.org/index.php/2017/03/10/tracing-the-past-deciphering-handwriting-in/ that every Yiddish reader will love, that helps a lot, but I am trying to find more resources that may help to read it.
I will really appreciate if somebody can provide information about other resources, as books, papers, blogs, web pages or any one you know about.
Many thanks,
Jorge Frankon
Buenos Aires, Argentina.

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Jorge M. Frankon
jorgefrankon@...
Buenos Aires, Argentina


Lecture by Holocaust scholar Samuel Kassow on Sunday at 1:30 pm #warsaw #events #announcements #holocaust #poland

Heidi Urich
 

Holocaust scholar Samuel Kassow will speak on "Time Capsules Under the Rubble: The Ringelblum Archive in the Warsaw Ghetto" this coming Sunday, 11/21, at 1:30 pm, on Zoom.  This is an annual lecture co-sponsored by the JGS of Greater Boston and Hebrew College. Free. For more info and to register, see: https://www.jgsgb.org/event/annual-lecture-samuel-kassow-eastern-european-jewry/
Heidi Urich, JGSGB


Re: Help with NYC Record of Aliens Help for Special Inquiry #lithuania #records

Marian
 

David is again correct that the next step is to consult that INS Name Index to immigration correspondence, and Lynn’s question gives me the chance to talk about that index (and this process) in a little more detail.  And at the end there is a file number for Lynn 

 

When I read Lynn’s question I first went to search the INS Subject Index on Ancestry, since a small fraction of references in that index go back to 1903.  Of course I had no luck.  As a rule, the appeal cases from ships like the SS PENNSYLVANIA don’t show up there until ca. 1906-08.

 

The index to check for earlier dates is the name index David mentioned, the [INS] Name Index [to early immigration correspondence], ca. 1893 - ca. 1932 (https://catalog.archives.gov/id/4709010).  The problem is that date span, 1893-1932, which is misleading.  The Name Index has a few references back to 1900, and some as late as 1912, but the core of it covers 1903 to 1906-08 (when the indexing of such cases shifted to the Subject Index discussed above).  But Lynn’s immigrant arrived in 1903, so he should be in the Name Index, right?

 

I searched the portion of the Name Index already online (the 1st alphabet is complete, the 2nd is in progress, 600+ entries loaded so far).  I found none of the three immigrants listed on Lynn’s BSI page who filed appeals (Salomon Friedman, Moszko Sohall, and Itzke Rubenstein).  I figured either they were indexed with a different spelling of the name, or the index does not go back as far in time as I believed.

 

At this point I turned to some data I received from NARA about the Name Index project, from their initial inventory of files.  That data was/is destined to go through several verifications before it can be loaded in the catalog.  There, I found all three—two with alternate spellings.  So I went back to the online Name Index in the catalog and searched the alternate spellings.  Still, no luck.

 

As always, the explanation is in the dates.  The “function and use” notes for the Name Index catalog entry (4709010) indicates the Name Index begins with file number 38000.  Some additional research reveals file number 38000 relates to May 1903.  Thus the dates for the name index should be “May 1903 to ca. 1912.”  Where does that leave Lynn, whose immigrant arrived in January 1903?

 

Happily in this case I found all three from her BSI page, including Itzke, in that preliminary data (note all numbers are below 38000):

 

Box

File

Subject

137

34863

Soholl, Moszko

137

34943

Reubenstein, Itzke

138

35054

Friedman, Salomon

 

So, Lynn needs file # 34943, in Box 137 of the series "Letters Received, 1882 - 1906" (NAID 1564919)https://catalog.archives.gov/id/1564919.  Whether Archives I is accepting email reference requests, or how/when one could get an appointment to request it in person, is beyond me.  But that’s her citation for whenever the dam breaks.  

 

To review:  The INS “Letters Received” (NAID 1564919) cover the years 1882-1906 and are available for research when NARA is open.  The problem is finding an index to those files.  Currently there are several indices that cover different time spans:

·      INS Subject Index, ca. 1906-1957.  NAID 4490783 / Searchable on Ancestry at https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/1946/

·      INS Name Index, May 1903-ca. 1912.  NAID 4709010 / 1st alphabet searchable in NARA Catalog

·      Registers of Letters Received, 7/12/1891 - 9/11/1903, NAID 1561313.  Not digitized, available only at Archives I.  This register should include Lynn’s immigrant and the other two on her BSI page.  The problem is the registers are only inside the Archives I building.

 

That said, things are getting better:

·      That data NARA is verifying will continue make its way into the searchable catalog, eventually describing every file in that series for all dates.  The NARA-created index to all surviving files will be an accurate representation of all available files.

·      The old indexes and registers will continue to reveal files that may not survive, at least not within their original series, or perhaps indexed differently.

 

Marian Smith


FamilySearch - order documents #general

Daniella Alyagon
 

Hi,
Does anyone have a link to the form used to order record copies when you cannot visit a FHC?
thank you,
Daniella Alyagon


Re: NYC information on psychiatrists #general #usa

Diane Jacobs
 

I suggest you also two places to look

stevemorse.org     For NYC vital records

family search.org   This is the Mormon site

And you can register at N/C and save your name and password and find many records
Including actual vital records.  This is in some ways better than ancestry. Be sure to search 
Phonetically.

Hope this helps
Diane Jacobs




On Nov 16, 2021, at 5:39 AM, Daniella Alyagon <alyagon.genealogy@...> wrote:



I am working on researching the AGINSKY surname. 
This has led me to a NYC psychiatrist by the name of Dr. Henry Victor AGIN (previously AGINSKY).
I am trying to locate records (not an index but an actual record) for Dr. Agin, his parents, his wife, his children. - I would appreciate help with this.
I have conducted research using ancestry.com, I am aware of the GENI profile - please don't send me there.

 

Daniella Alyagon

Tel Aviv 6939545, Israel

alyagon.genealogy@...

 

Researching: ALYAGON (Israel), SHOCHETMAN (Kishinev / Letychev / Derazhnya), AGINSKY (Kishinev / Minsk), FAJNZYLBER (Siennica, Poland / Warsaw, Poland), JELEN (Minsk Mazowiecki, Poland), KIEJZMAN (Garwolin, Poland),  SLIWKA (Garwolin, Poland), MANDELBAUM (Janowiec, Poland / Zwolen, Poland / Kozienice, Poland), CUKIER (Janowiec, Poland), RECHTANT (Kozienice, Poland), FALENBOGEN (Lublin, Poland), ROTENSTREICH (Galicia), SELINGER (Galicia), BITTER (Galicia / Bukowina), HISLER (Galicia / Bukowina ), EIFERMAN (Galicia / Bukowina), FROSTIG (Zolkiew, Galicia / Lviv, Galicia), GRANZBAUER (Zolkiew, Galicia), HERMAN (Zolkiew, Galicia), MESSER (Lviv, Galicia / Vienna, Austria), PROJEKT (Lviv, Galicia), STIERER (Lviv, Galicia), ALTMAN (Lviv, Galicia), FRIEDELS (Lviv, Galicia)


--
Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Seeking possible cousins in Israel #israel #general

Veronica Zundel
 

Seeking descendants in Israel of Josef Jakob Horoschowski, born 1905 Drohobych, moved to Vienna 1914 and possibly emigrated to what was then Palestine 1927, along with his sister Chaje Sarah Horoschowska, also born Drohobych 1910 and moved to Vienna 1914. They are my mother's birth family, who were put in the Vienna Jewish Orphanage while my mother, born in Vienna and the last child of this family, was fostered from birth and later adopted.

Does anyone know where I might find immigration records for Palestine 1927 onwards? It would still have been under the British Mandate.
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Veronica Zundel, London
Searching descendants of Josef Jakob Horoschowski b. 1905 Drohobych


Re: Contacting Oheb Shalom Cemetery in New Jersey, USA #usa

David Ziants
 

Thank you everyone for all the responses on this thread.

I did put a photo request on findagrave, but a fellow researcher who lives close to the cemetery in NJ, USA reached out to me off list in response to this post (or possibly in response to my post on the Jewish Genealogy Portal on Facebook), and after a few visits to this unfortunately neglected cemetery and with help of another neighbor of hers who is involved in the cemetery, she was able to locate and photograph the graves of Harry and Rose, and three of their children buried there. Although on gravestone of Harry and Rose we have the Hebrew dates of birth and passing, we do not have their Hebrew/Yiddish names with their patronymics. So I am unable to know Harry's father's name from this. On gravestone of daughter Dorothy, we have both Yiddish patronymic  הערשל (Hershel) for Harry and Hebrew matronymic רבקה (Rivka) for Rose. These are the names that also appear (in English letters) on some of the immigration documents, etc.

So, I uploaded the photos to finadagrave, and If anyone is interested, the link for Harry is:-

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/196623054/harry-zients

(From there, there are links to the gravestone memorial pages of the three children whom I mentioned.)

I wish to add, that on what very much seems to be my third great-grandfather's gravestone in Bialystok (which resonates with my oral family history and also resonates that this is after whom my grandfather was named):-

https://sztetl.org.pl/en/towns/b/397-bialystok/115-memory-in-stone/7074-jewish-cemetery-in-wschodnia-street/93482-zajac

the transcription mentions (in Polish) that he was originally from Brisk (Brest), which resonates with the known family history of the ZIENTS family that is the focus of this thread.

So any further help in trying to find out who Harry ZIENTS' father was, would be welcome.

David
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David Ziants

Ma'aleh Adumim, Israel


Re: Records of the Beth Din of Brody 1808-1817 #translation

Odeda Zlotnick
 

The above link didn't work.

This one links to the full Pinkas - more that 100 pages of it with a viewer.

פנקס בית דין ברודי NY JTS 4037

The viewer application has tools for expanding and contracting the text, without blurring it.

The index is by people's first names.

Pressing on the + at the bottom  
opens a frame with a scroll bar that lets you get to the end of Pinkas quickly.


--
Odeda Zlotnick
Jerusalem, Israel.


Re: Viewmate tombstone translation - YABLONSKY/ZABLE - Correction #translation

Robyn Dryen
 

As David Lewin has so kindly pointed out I have mixed the two images.

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM95957 is for Rose ZABLE YABLONSKY
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM95958 is for Benjamin YABLONSKY


My apologies

Robyn Dryen


Re: Caribbean with Ashkenazi Jewish Dna #dna

Veronica Zundel
 

Two thoughts occur to me. One is that there were certainly some Jewish slave owners and we know that slave owners often had children by their female slaves.  The second is that Burgess, while not a Jewish name, could easily be an Anglicization of Berger. Just guessing here but both seem probable.
--
Veronica Zundel, London
Searching descendants of Josef Jakob Horoschowski b. 1905 Drohobych


NYC information on psychiatrists #general #usa

Daniella Alyagon
 

I am working on researching the AGINSKY surname. 
This has led me to a NYC psychiatrist by the name of Dr. Henry Victor AGIN (previously AGINSKY).
I am trying to locate records (not an index but an actual record) for Dr. Agin, his parents, his wife, his children. - I would appreciate help with this.
I have conducted research using ancestry.com, I am aware of the GENI profile - please don't send me there.

 

Daniella Alyagon

Tel Aviv 6939545, Israel

alyagon.genealogy@...

 

Researching: ALYAGON (Israel), SHOCHETMAN (Kishinev / Letychev / Derazhnya), AGINSKY (Kishinev / Minsk), FAJNZYLBER (Siennica, Poland / Warsaw, Poland), JELEN (Minsk Mazowiecki, Poland), KIEJZMAN (Garwolin, Poland),  SLIWKA (Garwolin, Poland), MANDELBAUM (Janowiec, Poland / Zwolen, Poland / Kozienice, Poland), CUKIER (Janowiec, Poland), RECHTANT (Kozienice, Poland), FALENBOGEN (Lublin, Poland), ROTENSTREICH (Galicia), SELINGER (Galicia), BITTER (Galicia / Bukowina), HISLER (Galicia / Bukowina ), EIFERMAN (Galicia / Bukowina), FROSTIG (Zolkiew, Galicia / Lviv, Galicia), GRANZBAUER (Zolkiew, Galicia), HERMAN (Zolkiew, Galicia), MESSER (Lviv, Galicia / Vienna, Austria), PROJEKT (Lviv, Galicia), STIERER (Lviv, Galicia), ALTMAN (Lviv, Galicia), FRIEDELS (Lviv, Galicia)


Viewmate tombstone translation - YABLONSKY/ZABLE #translation

Robyn Dryen
 

Dear Genners

I've posted photos of two tombstones for which I need translations.

The first for Benjamin YABLONSKY c1841-13 Mar 1894 is on ViewMate at the following address https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM95957.


I am very grateful to Fredel who has already responded with Hebrew name and date, but I would like to know whether the additional text is biblical/scriptural or personal words from family. If the latter, I would really appreciate any translation that can be managed. 
I understand that the stone is very weathered. The original photo can be seen here: https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2021/314/233878123_66022788-bad6-4e7c-ada3-fb7b0a381de0.jpeg

The second is for Rose ZABLE YABLONSKY at the following address https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM95958 and as previously, if the texts are personal, I would very much appreciate any possible translation. Again, the headstone is weathered. The original photo can be seen here: https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2012/35/84545105_132850045176.jpg?v=1636467270 

A photo of both headstones is here: https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2021/314/84545105_b51b7586-3c99-44fa-9cdf-dbe9811695ab.jpeg 

 

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much for any assistance

Robyn Dryen
Sydney, Australia


ViewMate translation request - Russian #translation #russia #poland

jaskinnon@...
 

Hello everyone,

I've posted 2 vital records in Russian for which I need a translation.

1. Marriage in Nowogrod (1902 AKTA 2) of Moszk DZBANEK and Sora DEMBNICKA.  The original record is torn and it may span the two pages attached .. but I'm not sure.  Can you do whatever you can to pull as much information as you can from the record though which is online here at:

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM95919
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM95920

2.  Death at Czyzewo Osada (1869 AKTA 20) of Marja DZBANEK.  Please can you do a full translation also.  This record is here at:
   
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM95945

Please respond using the online ViewMate form in both cases.

Many thanks, Jeff A Skinnon

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