Kalman ABRAMOWITZ- #israel #usa

Yonatan Ben-Ari

Does have a relative Kalman ABRAMOWITZ ,parents Yitzchak and Zlata.
Gravestone all in hebrew and he lived at some point (don't know when)
in Jerusalem.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem

van Staveren family in the UK from 1858 #unitedkingdom

Martin van Staveren

Hello everyone,
New member here!
I've been doing family research via Ancestry, and know that I have a Jewish family originally from Friesland, hence my surname!
My 2x great grandfather Barend came to London from the Netherlands in 1858, and his father Isaac a year later.
Barend's brother Herman was a leading rabbi in Wellington, NZ, from 1877 until his death in 1930, and I was able to visit a room dedicated to him in the Wellington Synagogue, when I went to NZ a few years ago.
I have a family tree going back to the end of the 17th century, although I can't be sure of the most distant ancestors. So I've got planty of facts from birth, death and marriage certificates and census records.
But I'd like to find out a bit more about who my ancestors were, and their role in the 19th Century Jewish community, both in Friesland and London. Can anyone suggest any sources I should consult? Or is there anyone here who has useful information?
I should also mention that I'm personally Christian rather than Jewish by religion, but have the greatest respect for the Jewish faith and its customs.
Thanks in advance for any help.

Martin van Staveren
London, UK

The voyage from Ukraine to Palestine (Israel) #ukraine #israel #general

Rose Feldman

I doubt if your ancestor walked to Palestine at that time or any time.  They may have walked part of the way. This was the time of the Ottoman Empire from Turkey down through Palestine and beyond.


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To find Romanian archive listed on jewishgen #romania #records


I see a Bucuresti marriage notice listed on a jewishgen page with heading "Romania Marriages and Divorces" and I see that it is from Arhivele Naționale ale României / Registru pentru actele Starii Civile București  (in particular  Căsătorii 1896-7 / 935) but I don't see that source as being available on the jewishgen or familysearch sites.

Can someone point me to where I might find it?

Thank you.

Don Boroson

Re: Resource to find Jewish demographics #records


Thanks for sharing the link, Myra.  Not only do these yearbooks contain statistics on Jews in countries around the world, they also have information that would be of interest to genealogists:  Biographical sketches of "Jews prominent in the professions, etc." in the U.S.; large bequests and gifts given by Jews or to Jewish institutions; and "appointments, honors, and elections" of American Jews.  The content varies depending on the year, but keep in mind that some of this information is buried within "Assorted Statistics."  I wonder if it has been indexed anywhere.

In addition, the yearbooks include lists of synagogues dedicated in cities around the U.S., which could be useful for historical purposes.

Ellen Morosoff Pemrick 
Saratoga County, NY


Re: Seeking possible cousins in Israel #israel #general

Vered Dayan

You can try to contact the Drohobych remembrance organization in Israel:
Vered Dayan

Re: Pre War handwritting Yiddish #yiddish

Jorge Frankon

Hello David,
Many thanks for your message and good help. I know the Yivo and I use
to visit their webpage. Following your suggestion I will go there
again to search what I need. Best wishes. Jorge Frankon. Buenos Aires,
Jorge M. Frankon
Buenos Aires, Argentina

Re: was my great-grandmother Jewish? #general

Diane Katz. SURNAMES/TOWNS: Laske/Ladyzhin;,Steinberg Kiev; Grunberg Rheinhorn/Iasi; Milston/Slutzk; Bicz/Mogilev; Glas/Varniai; Moskowitz/Nagy-Saros Klein/Eperjes; Hefliech/Hungary; Marks/Machester/Suwalki; Shedrofski/Suwalki

I think the most important information would be to determine who her parents were.  Was she born in America or another country?  Do you have access to any genealogy websites?   Do you know her maiden name?   
Diane Katz

Forestry/Timber/Lumber #ukraine

Diane Katz. SURNAMES/TOWNS: Laske/Ladyzhin;,Steinberg Kiev; Grunberg Rheinhorn/Iasi; Milston/Slutzk; Bicz/Mogilev; Glas/Varniai; Moskowitz/Nagy-Saros Klein/Eperjes; Hefliech/Hungary; Marks/Machester/Suwalki; Shedrofski/Suwalki

Where can I find sources for Jewish land use/rent/ownership in the late 19th century in the Ukraine?  
Trying to locate the name of my gggrandfather possibly J. Laske  and his wife/wives and children from Gobnik/Hubnyk near Ladyzhin.  Hitting lots of brick walls.  I know he was in the forestry industry and well off before being murdered in a pogrom in 1905 (possibly by his employees).  
Diane Katz

Mordechai HOROWITZ of Minsk,19th cent. #rabbinic

Yonatan Ben-Ari

Further to my previous posting regarding Rabbi David (ben Moshe of
Kletzk) of Novarodok: In the introduction to the "Sefer" (book) ,
"Galia Mesechet (A)" authored by Rabbi David, and published by his
son-in-law, an Isaac RABINOWITZ, he gives thanks to a Mordechai
HOROWITZ of Minsk who was the father-in-law of Rabbi David's son
Moshe. Moshe , who seems not to have had a family name (similar to his
father) adopted the name HOROWITZ as his name. (that's an example how
you get HOROWITZS who are not Levi'im).

If anyone feels he is connected to this branch of the extended
HOROWITZ family I would be happy to hear from you. I researched the
HOROWITZ family website many years ago without any success.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem

Re: WWI military service for Austrians living in Germany #germany



I think 3. and 4. are both possible, but 4 is more probable. I know that even Germans and Austrians who lived in the United States or South America were called in the German or Austrian Army.

5. If he was in the Austro-Hungarian Army, you would find his records in the Austrian State Archive.

If he was in German army you need to know in which German Army he was. The service records for the Prussian Army don't exist anymore. 
But the service records for the Bavarian Army are online on ancestry, the ones of the Army of Baden and the Army of Württemberg are also online.

The first step should be to search the person of interest in the Verlustlisten of both the German Army and the Austro-Hungarian Army.
If you find him in this lists you will see which army, regiment and company he was attached to. 

In the Verlustlisten you can find not only soldiers who died in the war, but also wounded, missing and captured soldiers.
The Austrians have Verlustlisten and "Nachrichten über Verwundete und Kranke" = "Notices about wounded and sick soldiers".

Verlustlisten of the German Army

Verlustlisten of the Austro-Hungarian Army

Anno has both the Verlustlisten and the "Nachrichten über Verwundete und Kranke" = "Notices about wounded and sick soldiers".
Unfortunately I didn't find any Knisbacher neither in the Verlustlisten of the Germany Army nor in the ones of the Austro-Hungarian Army.


Corinne Iten


Re: was my great-grandmother Jewish? #general


You and/or the oldest relative (someone from your parent's or grandparent's generation). from that line should take an autosomal DNA test. is a good place to start.

Chuck Reback
Spartanburg, SC

The voyage from Ukraine to Palestine (Israel) #ukraine #israel #general


Hi, there is a story in my family research that one of my ancestors left Ukraine with his brother and they walked to Palestine where they attempted to settle. This was somewhere around 1913/1915. Does anyone have similar stories? Do you know where I can find out more about this type of emigration?
Simon Kisner

Re: Seeking possible cousins in Israel #israel #general


Shalom Veronica,
There are a few people listed on google (in Hebrew) here in Israel…. One lady a dentist.. I can try phoning some of them if you wish… to enquire if they are descendants .
Best wishes.
Brenda Habshush.
Kibbutz Sde Boker.💥

was my great-grandmother Jewish? #general

Rachel Neeve

Hello everyone,

I'm looking for some advice from more experienced people about my desire to find out if my great-grandmother was Jewish. 

My great-grandmother, born 1903, had 10 children. Some of her children say my great-grandmother was Jewish, and some of them say she wasn't. 

I'm particularly interested to find out more about my great-grandmother specifically. At this stage I am not seeking to create a family tree spanning generations, just to know more about her. Is this possible?

Is there any way I can definitively say whether she was Jewish or not?

Thank you in advance
Rachel Neeve

Re: Pre War handwritting Yiddish #yiddish

David Lewin

At 14:45 16/11/2021, Jorge Frankon wrote:
I am interested in reading old handwritten Yiddish, especially coming from central west Poland and the "zone of transition" of Yiddish dialect at the north west from Warsaw, in the pre WWII years.
I have found a very interesting blog in that every Yiddish reader will love, that helps a lot, but I am trying to find more resources that may help to read it.
I will really appreciate if somebody can provide information about other resources, as books, papers, blogs, web pages or any one you know about.
Many thanks,
Jorge Frankon
Buenos Aires, Argentina.

Jorge M. Frankon
Buenos Aires, Argentina

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Re: Caribbean with Ashkenazi Jewish Dna #dna


Brian, I recently read the book you mention and found the title to be very misleading.  As you say, it is more about the history and movement to that part of the world that "Pirates."  That being said, it was interesting.

Herschel Sheiness
San Antonio, Tx

WWI military service for Austrians living in Germany #germany

Jeffrey Knisbacher

I have questions about the status and origin of the military service of my paternal grandfather Yitzkhaq Moshe KNISBACHER, for whom I am named. For years I have had a postcard (sent to me by  a distant cousin) of him in a Berlin military hospital (Lazarett) and had, until very recently, assumed he served in the German army. Then a lengthy petition that my late father Max KNISBACHER had filed for a German pension turned up in the files of the Jewish Museum of Maryland. One of those pages detailed, in German, in my father's own hand, that his father had been an Austrian who fought for Germany and, on September 28, 1918, died of the flu pandemic that he had contracted in the service.

So my questions are:

1. Would he have served in the German army or in the German-allied Austro-Hungarian army?

2. Does his presence in a Berlin Lazarett mean that he was in the German army at the time or could Austrians have wound up there (if, say, their service left them sick or wounded closer to Berlin than to Vienna)?

3. Could he have been drafted into the German army as an "alien" from Austro-Hungary?

4. Could he have been drafted into the Austro-Hungarian army (via an Austro-Hungarian official in Berlin, where he was living)?

5. In either case, could I expect to find a record of his call-up in the Austrian State Archive?

6. Was he more likely to have been drafted than to have volunteered, given that by my father's birth in 1913, he already had two children?

Note that I have already filed for his Lazarett records with the German state archives but will have to wait a while for a final response and have no idea if such a Lazarett record would answer any of my questions. Thanks in advance for any help with this.   Jeff Knisbacher, Bradenton, FL

Re: Kalman and Deborah ABRAMOWITZ #names


For what it's worth, there is also an ABRAMOWITZ tangentially related to my tree, Masha, apparently an earlier spouse of my great-aunt's second husband.  I have no information other than his name and descendants, but if anyone has a Masha, I'd gladly share what I have.
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC

Re: Seeking possible cousins in Israel #israel #general

John Kovacs

Dear Veronica,
Your note got my attention because you mentioned the name of the town of Drohobych.   My mother, after WWII got married to a wonderful man Oskar Russ who was born in Drohobych about 1907.  Oskar's sister went to Israel and settled in a Kibbutz and I met her and her family several years ago.   Unfortunately I am not in my usual home where I have various notes that would remind me of the name of the Kibbutz.  Part of the family of Russ who live in the US are on vacation and as soon they come home I will ask them of the name of the kibbutz who maybe could give you more information.     
Best wishes, John Kovacs

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