Re: Facial Identification in Two Old Photos #latvia #photographs

Gail H. Marcus

I haven't used either the FamilySearch Compare-a-Face software that Jerry used or the Google Photos software that Lowell mentioned, so Jerry's comparisons are very interesting. me, the 20-25% matches seem low.  That would seem to me to apply more for siblings than for the same person.  So my question is--how good is the software for matches of the same person 20 or so years apart?  For a "real" match (for example, if I ran 2 pictures of what I was sure was the same person), should I expect numbers higher than 20-25%? 

Gail Marcus
Bethesda, MD

Re: Top 10 Jewish Genealogy Myths - Print Out for the Thanksgiving Dinner Table! #JewishGenUpdates


Thanks for a a great read, although I'm not sure whether I'm left more fascinated or more frustrated.
Jay Frank

Re: Top 10 Jewish Genealogy Myths - Print Out for the Thanksgiving Dinner Table! #JewishGenUpdates

David Harrison <djh_119@...>

When I have looked into census records at our National Archives, it has been obvious that people have often rounded ages to the nearest multiple of 5 in past years when they possibly did not have much education.  Another reason, of which I have been told for adding on a few years, has been to qualify sooner for a state pension.  In many areas in winter, births were registered several months after the birth to avoid a long walk in a rural area during bad weather, it is possible that similar relaxations were common in earlier years elsewhere if there was a registration system with civil or with church authorities.  It might be interesting for someone to verify the system that was in use in the American Wild West.
David Harrison
London, England

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Subject: Re: [] Top 10 Jewish Genealogy Myths - Print Out for the Thanksgiving Dinner Table! #JewishGenUpdates
Re myth #7, not only did my maternal grandfather not know his birthdate, he didn't know his age, according to my mother.  Supposedly he lied about his age to get into this country alone, though if his age was given at embarkation, I'm not really sure if that is true.  But the family story is that he traveled with an uncle and was separated at disembarkment, so he lied and said he was older than he was.  Eventually, as he said he was born during Passover, his children gave him a birthday, April 15, many years before that became Tax Day.  
So here we have another reason to lie about one's age/birthday, just needing to be old enough to enter the country alone. 
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC

Re: Where can I find records of Jews in Russian Poland 1847 #records #russia

David Leboff

Hi Paul

I assumed you have looked up JRI Poland.  From a quick search, there was a Mejer Debin born in Wysokie Mazowieckie in 1847, the son of Joszko and Chajka.  Could this be the Moses Dombin that you are researching?
David Leboff

Re: Talmidim of Volozhin Yeshiva #rabbinic

Adam Cherson

See here for additional data along your lines:
Adam Cherson

Re: Did my maternal grandmother convert to Judaism? #general

Joan Jacobson

The issue in my case is that, while I was raised in the Reform tradition, my husband was raied Conservative/Traditional, so when I raised the possibility that my maternal grandmother may not have converted, he was upset.  I just assumed she had converted, as my gradfather’s parents were observant.  However, when I was investigating my geneology and found out she was buried in a Catholic cemetery, I became uncertain. Both of our children were Bar and Bat Mitvahed.  To me, being less traditional than my husband, that is all I care about.  Thanks for your response.
Joan Jacobson

This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #yizkorbooks #ukraine

Bruce Drake

If you lived in one of the shtetls and got sick, there’s a good chance that you would call on the town’s royfe. The royfe filled the gap left by full-fledged doctors, who were not numerous in the small towns of eastern Europe (and more than most could afford). Unlike a doctor who went through rigorous education and training to earn a medical license, the many royfes never even went to elementary school and their profession was hereditary, handed down from grandfather to father to son. The rich went to the official doctor if there was one; the less-fortunate depended on the royfe.
The Hebrew term “royfe” is equal to a “barber–surgeon: someone who could perform surgical procedures including bloodletting, cupping therapy, teeth–pulling, and bone–setting.” And that describes Moyshele, the royfe of Zinkov (Ukraine) whose “practice” is the subject of a section of the town’s Yizkor book titled “Zinkov Folklore.”
Moyshele was a “three-in-one”: a royfe, a barber and a pharmacist. And there’s a delightful passage in this excerpt describing him in his barbershop, juggling all three tasks.

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, MD

Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel

Re: Talmidim of Volozhin Yeshiva #rabbinic


Here is website with history of Volozhin -
This is about students -
Maybe this will help

Dassy Wilen

JGS Toronto Litvak SIG. Free Virtual Meeting. GET THE MOST OUT OF RESEARCHING OUR FAMILIES IN LITHUANIA. GARRI REGEV. Sunday, 28 November 2021 at 10:30 a.m. ET.

Jerry Scherer








Sunday, 28 November 2021 at 10:30 a.m. ET.




Discover new databases, sources and methods for Lithuanian research.

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Re: Facial Identification in Two Old Photos #latvia #photographs

Jerry Scherer

Try using  FamilySearch Discovery - Compare-a-Face — See examples below.

Jerry Scherer
Toronto, Ontario

Re: Top 10 Jewish Genealogy Myths - Print Out for the Thanksgiving Dinner Table! #JewishGenUpdates

Eva Lawrence

Even after years of genealogy research, there is always still something
to learn. So thank you JewishGen for that useful list of Myths.
But I want to take issue with No 2.
Spelling of surnames can be a useful tool for family historians, if they
take the trouble to study the changes in the light of people's history.
I've already written articles on the subject for JGSGB in our SHEMOT,
and only recently I identified a record for my great-grandmother because
she gave her surname as UNGAR instead of the more common UNGER.
As with so many other rules, it's the exceptions that are worth
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.

Re: Facial Identification in Two Old Photos #latvia #photographs


The man on the right on the older photo was loosing his hair and is the bold man on the new photo. His ears match on both photos. His wife looks alike. I would say the new photo is of the couple on the right of the old photo, with their children.

Angel Kosfiszer

Richardson, Texas

Re: Leipzig civil registry records #germany

Evelyn and Christopher Wilcock

Many towns in Germany kept personal files on inhabitants which give the date of birth.
These files are not official certificates and  in Frankfurt  am Main were held in the Town Archive where researchers like myself were able to read them.

This means you do not need an official certificate which is closed until after a date limit. I have Kaufmanns on my own tree so did a search.
I have not found a record for your Kaufmann on the on line 1939 German Jewish census which  (in theory) listed anyone Jewish or in a household that included anyone of Jewish descent

A presumably non Jewish  Joachim Kaufmann is listed in the address book for the Nazi period
Residence Date: 1940
Residence Street Address: H 22 KaiserFried richStr 521.
Residence Place: Leipzig, Deutschland (Germany)
Occupation: Werbeleit
Title: Adressbuch d. Reichsmessestadt Leipzig

Evelyn Wilcock

Re: 1848 Hungarian Census source #hungary


Hello Risa,
were you ever able to find any information on this? I'm also curious to find out more about film # 48389 in the Hungarian Archives. Is it digitized somewhere? Or only accessible at the archives themselves? 
What is the status of the indexing? I noticed that some municipalities in Abaúj-Torna are found in the jewish gen search index, but others are not (such as the village of Selyeb).

Daniel Eig

Re: Talmidim of Volozhin Yeshiva #rabbinic

David Shapiro

There a book (in Hebrew) call Etz Chaim by R. Moshe Tzinovitz on the history of the Yeshiva. Chapter 29 have a list of Talmidim with short biographies.

David Shapiro

Where can I find records of Jews in Russian Poland 1847 #records #russia

Paul Beek

Who can point me in right direction to find a Jewish family member who was born May 14, 1847 in what they call Russian Poland, now town mentioned on his
marriage certificate (Leeds 1869), family name is DOMBIN, maybe spelled otherwise at that time.
Thanks all,
with best regards

Paul Beek
the Netherlands

Re: Viewmate Translation request Russian #translation


Thank you for your detailed transcription and translation!
Now I have to work out if he was my great great grandfather's father :)
Shoshanah Glickman
Gateshead, UK

Re: Leipzig civil registry records #germany

Judith Elam

Hi Heshel- I obtained my grandparents' 1924 Leipzig marriage certificate from the Staatsarchiv.  It's been many years since I obtained it, but I think all I provided them with was the names and dates of birth of my grandparents.  And it came with a huge packet of genealogical information, that was mind blowing.  Including the death certificate of my great-grandfather, which confirmed what I suspected all along. I have no idea why that was included, other than maybe they just kept everything they had under the same name, or maybe it was some kind of ID my grandmother had to provide.

Usually any archive you apply to requires a date of birth, in order to search for the record. You do not indicate if you know the exact date of birth.  I did search for him on, and there is a Hans Joachim Kaufmann living in Leipzig but born 11/11/1906 in Dortmund.  Is this him?  There is also a Joachim Kaufmann listed in the Leipzig address books for both 1935 and 1940, living at  Kaiser FriedrichStr. 521.  Is this him?

If he is Jewish, Frau Klaudia Krenn may have Holocaust era records on him at the Jewish Community.  

Judith Elam

LitvakSIG BOF DRG Kaunas Zoom meeting #events #lithuania

Carol Hoffman

f you have discovered family that came from Lithuania but to date
have not searched this area perhaps you will be interested in a "Zoom"
meeting  entitled " The Kaunas District research materials in the
historical perspective " created by the Litvak SIG .

This will take place on Sunday December 12th at 12 noon EST. The
session will be recorded and available only to Kaunas Research
District contributors.
If you have any questions you can contact me at salinger@...

Whilst dealing specifically with the city of Kaunas and the
surrounding smaller towns it will give you an insight in what
materials are available and how to use them. The main shtetls in the
Kaunas area are: Ariogala, Babtai, Cekiske, Dotnuva, Grinskiskis,
Jonava, Josvainiai, Juodoniai, Kaunas (city), Kedainiai, Krakes,
Labunava, Rumsiskes, Sanciai, Seredzius, Slapaberze, Surviliskis,
Vandziogala, Veliuona, Vilijampole, Vilkija and Zeimai.

You are invited to a Zoom meeting.
When: Dec 12, 2021 07:00 PM Jerusalem
Register in advance for this meeting.  The link is in the
immediately preceding message.
After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing
information about joining the meeting.

Wishing you an enjoyable Chanukah holiday

Ralph Salinger and Carol Hoffman

Re: Viewmate Translation request Russian #translation


In Russian:



Состоялось в посаде Шренск 11 (23) декабря 1870-го года в 2 часа дня. Явились: Энох Крук, торговец, 52-х лет и Шлема Гамбургер, учитель, 53-х лет, живуще в посаде Шренск и объявили, что вчера, в 3 часа дня, умер Хаим Хенц, рабочий, 53-х лет, родился и проживал в посаде Шренск, сын умерших Генделя и Мырли, урожденной Гиндштейн, оставивший после себя овдовевшую жену Блиму.

По настоящему удостоверяю о кончине Хаима Хенца. Акт сей по прочтении присутствующими подписан.

Заштатный бургомистр города Шренска, содержащий акты гражданского состояния Подпись

Энох Крук

Шлема Гамбургер


Translated into English:



It took place in Posad Shrensk on December 11 (23), 1870 at 2 pm. They came: Enoch Kruk, a merchant, 52 years old and Shlema Hamburger, a teacher, 53 years old, living in the village of Shrensk and announced that yesterday, at 3 o'clock in the afternoon, died Haim Henz, a worker, 53 years old. He was born and lived in posad Shrensk, the son of the deceased Handel and Myrlya, nee Gindshtein, who left behind his widowed wife Blima.

I truly certify the death of Chaim Henz. This act, upon reading by those present, is signed.

State burgomaster of the city of Shrensk, containing acts of civil status Signature

Enoch Kruk

Shlema Hamburger

Translated by Michael Ryabinky
Boynton Beach, FL

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