Re: 2 questions #records #russia

Janet Furba

Hi ask the local birth, death, marriage registration office.

Janet Furba,

Re: Jacob "Jake" Ostroff #usa

The Becker's Email

I could not find an obit.  I did find that arrangements for his burial were under the direction of IJ Morris at Star of David Cemetery of the Palm Beaches, West Palm Beach, FL.  You might try contacting the cemetery to obtain any info they might have. Found this by googling.  

I did find an obit in the Philadelphia Inquirer for 23 Sept. 1978 for Sherry Ostroff who died in Paris on 14 Sept. 1978.  She was the dtr of Mrs. Donna Notis and Mr. Jacob Ostroff, sister of Miss Michele Ostroff, stepdtr of Mr. Martin Notis, stepsister of Miss Leslie Notis.  Address of Donna and Martin Notis was given as 780 Lingo Dr. Warminster, PA.  She was buried at Shalom Memorial Park, Section David on Byberry and Pine Rds. source:

The Philadelphia Inquirer for 1 Jan. 1969 lists marriage licenses and has one for Martin Leonard Notis age 38 to Donna Ostroff age 33.  source:

Johanna Becker
Newport, RI

Re: Frenkel and Zygmond families of Lublin #poland

Janet Furba

300  is less than 400 as in the Russian archives.
Janet Furba,

Re: 1910 Kishinev revision list includes people who already left for Canada? #canada


To anyone who is reading this thread, Teodoro is referring to this short paper on JewishGen:

It completely answers my question (thank you Teodoro!).  This particular year's list (1910) for Kishinev represents a compilation made from the 1859 revision list, moving forward to 1910. It is the closest thing I've come across to finding a 111 year old family tree!

William Elkus
Park City UT

Re: 1910 Kishinev revision list includes people who already left for Canada? #canada

Jeremy Lichtman

I've seen this in revision lists throughout the former Russian Empire.

People were registered to a particular place, and there were various tax and budgetary implications to the specific number of people who were registered.

From what I've heard, beaurocrats were reluctant to strike people from the list (a death would have forced them to do so though).


Jeremy Lichtman
Toronto, Canada

Re: Did my maternal grandmother convert to Judaism? #general

Madeleine Isenberg

Hi Joan,
I decided to check cemeteries and found this strange situation.  JewishGen's JOWBR, has one entry for Klara BALTES-LIFESHTIZ, who died in 1975, saying she is buried in Canada.  Here is her record:  Clicking on the cemetery, it explains that this cemetery is not a completely Jewish cemetery, but doe shave a section: their link:

Curiously, another website for burials is, that has exactly the same stone, but claims to be in Chicago's Waldheim cemetery!!


Madeleine Isenberg
Beverly Hills, CA
Researching: GOLDMAN, STEINER, LANGER, GLÜCKSMAN, STOTTER in various parts of Galicia, Poland
(Nowy Targ, Nowy Sanz, Wachsmund, Dembno, Lapuszna, Krakow, Ochotnica) who migrated into Kezmarok or
nearby towns in northern Slovakia and Czech Republic (i.e., those who lived/had businesses in Moravska Ostrava);
GOLDSTEIN in Sena or Szina, Szkaros and Kosice, Slovakia; Tolcsva and Tokaj, Hungary.
GOLDBERG, TARNOWSKI in Chmielnik and KHANISHKEVITCH in Kielce, Poland

"Finding Your Family Lost in the Holocaust" #announcements #jgs-iajgs

Walter Rosenthal

"Finding Your Family Lost in the Holocaust” a presentation by Deborah H. Long, will he hosted by JGSPBC on Wednesday, Dec.8, at 1:00PM EST
"Finding Your Family Lost in the Holocaust” a presentation by Deborah H. Long, will he hosted by JGSPBC on Wednesday, Dec.8, at 1:00PM EST.  Dr. Long, the daughter of two Holocaust survivors, will review in this presentation the best, as well as some of the obscure, resources and methods for determining the fate of those involved in the Holocaust, including survivors and victims. She will use examples from her own research to demonstrate the documents and artifacts she discovered. Her memoir about growing up as a child of survivors is titled First Hitler, Then Your Father, and Now You.
To register, please go to and click on Register for December.  You will receive an immediate acknowledgement and a link prior to the presentation on December 8. The meeting is free to JGSPBC member; guests are required to pay a $5 fee, applicable toward the $30.00 annual membership.
Walter Rosenthal
or call 561-459-9577

Walter Rosenthal

Re: Did my maternal grandmother convert to Judaism? #general

michele shari

Joan, I agree that this is something you should pursue. Although your children and you may consider yourselves Jewish, according to Jewish law you would not be if your grandmother did not convert according to Jewish law and what is universally accepted is an Orthodox conversion. While it may not be an issue to you, it may very well be an issue to whoever your children marry and their families and this information should be conveyed accurately.
Please let us know what you find out in your research.
Michele Farkas
Boynton Beach, FL

Interpretation of Familianten record #general #translation


Given the current inability to use Vademecum, I wonder if someone could be kind enough to confirm the various names and relationships in the attached record.

It is in respect of various Hanak family members from my family, but  I've never developed an ability to read the script in sufficient detail.

It is key to resolve a number of anomalies with the Hanak family records on Geni. Any assistance would be gratefully received thank you.

Michael Hermann, Oakham, UK

Qesher presents "Jewish Moscow" #announcements #events #russia

Myra Fournier

On December 12 @ 1:30PM EST the organization Qesher ( will present a virtual tour of Jewish Moscow.  

Russian Jewish tour guide Evgenia (Jane) Kempinski will present the 90-minute program. An $18 fee is required for registration.

I am not affiliated with Qesher or Ms. Kempinski. I heard her presentation on Jewish St. Petersburg and highly recommend her.

Read more and register here:

Myra Fournier
Bedford, MA

Cahen Family Lorraine 1500/ early1600s #france #general

Ben Forman

Hi FrenchSIG Researchers

According to a family story, my Cahen ancestors, Bernard and/or Isaac
arrived in Lechenich Germany around 1608/9 from Alsace-Lorraine. This
story is provided in several history books which mention my family in
the Rhineland.

Over many years, my previous research on this hasn't been able to
prove anything substantive, other than confirmation that the spelling
of Cahen is consistent with originating in Lorraine, rather than

I have just finished reading The Jews of France by Esther Benbassa, in
English translation; in this book there is a chapter on Metz and
Lorraine which makes reference to 4 Jewish families being given
permission to settle in Metz in 1567. It states that in 1595 there
were 20 Jewish families in Metz, and 85 households in 1637. There is
also reference to Jewish immigration to "ducal Lorraine" between
1633-1661, and that some Jewish families were authorized to settle in
Nancy in 1636 but expelled in 1643. If it is true that my ancestors
came from Lorraine to Lechenich in 1608, then they would have been
from a relatively small and authorized community.

I was wondering whether anyone knows if the family lists and letters
of authorization mentioned in this book have been transcribed, or are
otherwise available

In addition, there are 6 citations in the section dealing with this
historic period which all look interesting. There is one in
particular, "Le rabbinat de Metz pendant la period franchise
1567-1871" from Revue des etud=C3=A9s juives 7 by one Abraham Cahen,
which is particularly interesting to me due to the name of the author.
Do you know anything about this reference?

Many thanks as always

Ben Forman, London
Cahen: Lechenich, Bruhl, Koeln

Re: visiting Rakaca, Hungary #hungary

Tamas Fleischer


I haven't been there but   shows where in Rakaca you can find the Jewish cemetery or the remained graves. (See attached)
Another site  shows the Rakacaszend Jewish cemetery, but not the Rakaca one.

Tamás Fleischer

Re: 1910 Kishinev revision list includes people who already left for Canada? #canada

Dr. Teodoro S. Kaufman

Dear William, I have recently asked the same question regarding my ancestry. Please check the answer I received.
Teodoro S. Kaufman

Furman Kaluszyn, #lodz #general

Ben Forman

Hi JewishGen Community

I've found a Lodz Registration Card which appears to be for my GGF,
the individual has the same name and father's name, approximately the
same D.O.B, June 1876. and the same town of birth. However the
registration card index reference is 1916-1921 when, to my knowledge,
my GGF was living in Manchester, England with his wife and 6 children.
He appears on the 1901 and 1911 UK census as well as records
travelling to the US in January and December 1905. The individual in
the document is listed as a coal seller and single, whereas my GGF was
a tailor and married. I've previously researched my Kaluszyn family
extensively, and am not aware of anyone else with this name.

The link to the document is here:

Can anyone tell me more about this documentation, venture an opinion
on whether this is likely to be my ancestor, and how this record might
have come to be.


Ben Forman
Researching Furman/Forman: Kaluszyn & Wity

Re: 1848 Hungarian Census source #hungary

Odeda Zlotnick

The key in the following icon disappears once you've logged in. And I am referring to internet login.

Odeda Zlotnick
Jerusalem, Israel.

Re: 2 questions #records #russia

Ina Getzoff

To answer your first question you indicate that the possibility of the twins that were
born was either in the uS or Palestine.  Since it was a "twins birth" do you know if both babies died or just one of the two? Also, if it was in the US you would need to at least know in which state these babies were born so you could start with that. I would also start with the person who shared this information with you and ask if they verified it. If they did is there was I call "collateral relatives" who might be able to give you some other information.
As far as your second question, you say that this man was shot by the Czars. There was only one Czar of Russia at a time. Since Russia is a big country the first thing you need to indicate is what year this incident happened and where in Russia. Secondly, knowing what year might help to know who the Czar was and where it happened. Again, it needs to be verified by the person that told you this. There are many family stories and they are not always accurate. I can tell you that Russia was involved in a war with Japan around 1903 and the Jewish soldiers who were in the "Czar's army" would end up serving for 25 years. 
Hope some of this helps to follow through.
Ina Getzoff
Delray Beach, Florida

Re: 1848 Hungarian Census source #hungary

David Oseas

On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 10:37 AM, <m_tobiasiewicz@...> wrote:
Last time I looked, the images are only available at a Family History Center, most of which are still closed.
Although the FS catalog displays a lock icon next to these image collections, if you go ahead & click on an icon it will take you to the images, even from home.

David Oseas

Re: Facial Identification in Two Old Photos #latvia #photographs

Esther Brill

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Cleveland is having a guest speaker related to this topic.  Perhaps you can register or find out how to contact the speaker lots of good luck


Using Facial Recognition Tools to Identify Unnamed Ancestors for Genealogical Research"
Presented by Scott Genzer

Registration Process

This program is free and open to the public, but space is limited.

Priority will be given to members of the Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland (JGSC).

Preregistration is required and must be requested by 12:00 Noon (EDT) on December 1st.

Registration Process

This program is free and open to the public, but space is limited.

Priority will be given to members of the Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland (JGSC).

Preregistration is required and must be requested by 12:00 Noon (EDT) on December 1st..

  • JGSC Non-Members: Please click on the following link: rsvp@... and
                                          provide your full name, email address, and complete mailing address. 

Look for an email acknowledging receipt of your request. Then on Tuesday afternoon, the day before the program, the Zoom link will be forwarded to you, along with the meeting number and passcode.

Esther Levine Brill





Jacob "Jake" Ostroff #usa

Steve Pickoltz

I'm trying to find a Death Notice or Obit for a Jacob "Jake" Ostroff.  He was born on Jan 7, 1931 to a Goldie Ostroff, husband unknown.  He died on Feb 13, 2017 in Del Ray, Florida.  Jack's occupation was that of a camera man for major TV stations. He was married at least once, and had a daughter Sherry who died in 1978 while in France.  I am hoping the death notice may include among other things his wife(s) name and maybe a father's name.  Who knows what else.
Steve Pickholtz
New Jersey

IGRA lecture on Dec. 7, 2021 State of Israel, Genealogical Research and Locating Owners of Abandoned Properties #education #events #jgs-iajgs

Hinda Solomon

Israel Genealogy Research Association    Website:
The lecture will be in Hebrew
Tuesday, December 7, 2021      
Israeli Time 19:00 - 21:00        EDT    12:00 PM - 2:00 PM        

Maybe you, too, are Eligible! State of Israel, Genealogical Research and Locating Owners of "Abandoned Properties: and their Heirs.
Speaker: Attorney Yonatan Kirsch

Fulfilling traditional Jewish values, the Office of the Administrator General of Israel works to locate the owners of unclaimed assets in Israel or their heirs and has been able to substantially increase its activities of late due to developments in genealogy and the proliferation of resources.
Jonathan Kirsch, senior member of the office, will describe the process by which each year, through genealogical research utilizing tools and resources such as archives, websites, social media, databases, records and newspapers, his department is able to reunite hundreds of people with their ancestral property and with each other. Jonathan will bring fascinating examples of how, in the course of international investigations, various items provide key clues enabling identification of property owners, piecing together their family trees and ultimately tracking down their heirs.

To sign up to attend the lecture in person, please send an e-mail to  billie@...
Operating under the Corona GREEN PASS guidelines, only those who have registered will be admitted
Shazar Community Center, ground floor
30 Yavne’eli St.,Givatayim       Map:
Wheelchair accessible

For those who are too far away we will be on Zoom,
Registration for Zoom:
אולי גם אתם זכאים! מדינת ישראל. מחקר גנאלוגי ואיתור בעלי "נכסים עזובים" ויורשיהם המרצה: עו"ד יונתן קירש Maybe you, too, are Eligible! State of Isael, Genealogical Research and Locating Owners of "Abandoned Properties: and their Heirs. Speaker: Attorney Yonatan Kirsch The lecture will be in Hebrew
No charge
E-mail:  hinda@...

Posted by Hinda Solomon
Rishon LeZion, Israel

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