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Re: finding obit lookup sources #general

Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
 

Peter Blood asks:
Where does one find people to do a obituary lookup when all
that >is known is the name, place and date of death, but not the
specific newspaper? What sources are at my disposal?
Since you know the place of death, you would look at the
reference volume at your local public library called Gale
Directory of Publications and Broadcast Media which will give
you a list of newspapers published in the city/town which you
have as the place of death. If the person died in a small
town, the likelihood of an obit, or at least a small article
about the death is good. If the event took place in a large
city, and the person was not especially prominent, the
likelihood of an obit is practically nil.....but large city
newspapers usually publish death notices supplied by (and
charged for) by the funeral home.

Your options then are to either write or telephone the newspaper
"morgue clerk" or ask for help on this forum for somebody to
check it out in a local library.

Large city newspapers are often available on microfilm and
through the InterLoan Library system.

Carol Skydell
Chilmark MA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: finding obit lookup sources #general

Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
 

Peter Blood asks:
Where does one find people to do a obituary lookup when all
that >is known is the name, place and date of death, but not the
specific newspaper? What sources are at my disposal?
Since you know the place of death, you would look at the
reference volume at your local public library called Gale
Directory of Publications and Broadcast Media which will give
you a list of newspapers published in the city/town which you
have as the place of death. If the person died in a small
town, the likelihood of an obit, or at least a small article
about the death is good. If the event took place in a large
city, and the person was not especially prominent, the
likelihood of an obit is practically nil.....but large city
newspapers usually publish death notices supplied by (and
charged for) by the funeral home.

Your options then are to either write or telephone the newspaper
"morgue clerk" or ask for help on this forum for somebody to
check it out in a local library.

Large city newspapers are often available on microfilm and
through the InterLoan Library system.

Carol Skydell
Chilmark MA


Looking for Mrs Florence Bernstein from West Orange, NJ #general

Susanna Vendel <susanna.vendel@...>
 

I would like to get in touch with Mrs Florence W. Berstein >from West
Orange, NJ,
or the Bernstein Wagner Descendants of West Orange who submitted the names
Benjamin and Pauline Gerstel Wagner for placement on the Wall of Honor.
Please contact me privately.

Susanna Vendel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for Mrs Florence Bernstein from West Orange, NJ #general

Susanna Vendel <susanna.vendel@...>
 

I would like to get in touch with Mrs Florence W. Berstein >from West
Orange, NJ,
or the Bernstein Wagner Descendants of West Orange who submitted the names
Benjamin and Pauline Gerstel Wagner for placement on the Wall of Honor.
Please contact me privately.

Susanna Vendel


Hrubieszow Records Online #general

Barry Megdal <bmegdal@...>
 

<HTML>
I am glad to be able to announce that the Jewish Records Indexing - Poland
project now has records online for Hrubieszow.&nbsp; The birth and death
records are for the years 1877-1890, while the marriage records are for
1887-1890.

<P>These records can be accessed at&nbsp; <A HREF="http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/jriplweb.htm">Jewish
Records Indexing - Poland</A> , and represent a small step to our goal
of getting all of the Hrubieszow records indexed.

<P>If you are interested in Hrubieszow, and are not on my Hrubieszow mailing
list please contact me by email so you can be added&nbsp; (if you are on
the list you got another, longer message >from me).

Barry Megdal
Pasadena, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hrubieszow Records Online #general

Barry Megdal <bmegdal@...>
 

<HTML>
I am glad to be able to announce that the Jewish Records Indexing - Poland
project now has records online for Hrubieszow.&nbsp; The birth and death
records are for the years 1877-1890, while the marriage records are for
1887-1890.

<P>These records can be accessed at&nbsp; <A HREF="http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/jriplweb.htm">Jewish
Records Indexing - Poland</A> , and represent a small step to our goal
of getting all of the Hrubieszow records indexed.

<P>If you are interested in Hrubieszow, and are not on my Hrubieszow mailing
list please contact me by email so you can be added&nbsp; (if you are on
the list you got another, longer message >from me).

Barry Megdal
Pasadena, CA


Offer to do research in Erie, Pennsylvania #general

Jay Cohen
 

I will be going to Erie PA and Will be visiting a library which maintains an obituary index for the Erie Times (1822 to date) as well as the entire newspaper on microfilm.

Will also be visiting Register of Wills (Probate Records 1823 to date),
Clerk of Records (Marriage Records 1885 to date) and Bureau of Vital
Statistics (Death Records 1906 to date).

Finally, I hope to look for naturalization records in the local
Courthouse -- although I don't have specific info on this yet.

If anyone needs such research done in Erie PA, send me an e-mail no later
than 11 pm on Thursday Sept 17th. I will try to do your research as I do
mine.

Jay Cohen


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Offer to do research in Erie, Pennsylvania #general

Jay Cohen
 

I will be going to Erie PA and Will be visiting a library which maintains an obituary index for the Erie Times (1822 to date) as well as the entire newspaper on microfilm.

Will also be visiting Register of Wills (Probate Records 1823 to date),
Clerk of Records (Marriage Records 1885 to date) and Bureau of Vital
Statistics (Death Records 1906 to date).

Finally, I hope to look for naturalization records in the local
Courthouse -- although I don't have specific info on this yet.

If anyone needs such research done in Erie PA, send me an e-mail no later
than 11 pm on Thursday Sept 17th. I will try to do your research as I do
mine.

Jay Cohen


Re: Ekaterinoslav connection? #belarus

Bryan Polikoff <polikoff@...>
 

At 9:15 am 15/9/98, Jerold Touger wrote:
I recall seeing a post a few weeks ago >from someone who reported that family
members >from Belarus had first moved to Ekaterinoslav in the Ukraine before
emigrating. This was true also for two TOUGER sisters, Bessie and Anna, who
with their husbands (the former married Sam SCHEFRIN, the latter Max or
Mendel
TOUGER) first moved to Ekaterinoslav and then (c. 1906) to Milwaukee. Their
naturalization papers indicate Borisov (Bessie and Sam), Novine (Max) and
Chachichove (Anna) as their respective birthplaces.
I am wondering if other people also have forebears who moved to
Ekaterinoslav before leaving Russia completely. Does this ring a bell for any
SCIFRINs/SCHEFRINs? Is this a common enough circumstance to merit further
inquiry by the SIG?
My late dad used to mention Ekaterinoslav Gubernia and it is possible that
his father and uncle passed that way before coming to England in the late
1880s. You are the only other person I know to have ever referred to the
place! I would be intrigued to know anything you can discover about it.

Bryan Polikoff
UK


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Ekaterinoslav connection? #belarus

Bryan Polikoff <polikoff@...>
 

At 9:15 am 15/9/98, Jerold Touger wrote:
I recall seeing a post a few weeks ago >from someone who reported that family
members >from Belarus had first moved to Ekaterinoslav in the Ukraine before
emigrating. This was true also for two TOUGER sisters, Bessie and Anna, who
with their husbands (the former married Sam SCHEFRIN, the latter Max or
Mendel
TOUGER) first moved to Ekaterinoslav and then (c. 1906) to Milwaukee. Their
naturalization papers indicate Borisov (Bessie and Sam), Novine (Max) and
Chachichove (Anna) as their respective birthplaces.
I am wondering if other people also have forebears who moved to
Ekaterinoslav before leaving Russia completely. Does this ring a bell for any
SCIFRINs/SCHEFRINs? Is this a common enough circumstance to merit further
inquiry by the SIG?
My late dad used to mention Ekaterinoslav Gubernia and it is possible that
his father and uncle passed that way before coming to England in the late
1880s. You are the only other person I know to have ever referred to the
place! I would be intrigued to know anything you can discover about it.

Bryan Polikoff
UK


Belarus 1st, then Ukraine #belarus

Gayle Schlissel Riley <key2pst@...>
 

My family, also went >from Belarus, to the Ukraine.(Ekaterinolav) Their
name was KAHN-SHAPIRO. My great-grandfather Morris was born in
Stoblsty, his brothers were born in Lubny. He stayed, I quess with
uncles. The rest of the family lived in Lubny. They ALL lived in Souix
City, upon arrival in the US.
ANY one have info on his brother's Yitchuk and Yomtov GOOTMAN, would
greatly be appreciated, they were born around 1870-80's. Thanks

Gayle Schlissel Riley


Belarus SIG #Belarus Belarus 1st, then Ukraine #belarus

Gayle Schlissel Riley <key2pst@...>
 

My family, also went >from Belarus, to the Ukraine.(Ekaterinolav) Their
name was KAHN-SHAPIRO. My great-grandfather Morris was born in
Stoblsty, his brothers were born in Lubny. He stayed, I quess with
uncles. The rest of the family lived in Lubny. They ALL lived in Souix
City, upon arrival in the US.
ANY one have info on his brother's Yitchuk and Yomtov GOOTMAN, would
greatly be appreciated, they were born around 1870-80's. Thanks

Gayle Schlissel Riley


1811-1812 Zemplem Census/ ColumbiaU answer #hungary

CASHEL3776@...
 

Re: the following, I e-mailed Columbia University regarding getting the rest
of the information. I have attached their answer. Guess I'll have to find me
someone at Columbia to find it for me. Have a better chance of going to Heaven
than getting to New York.
Ley

"Dr izidor Goldberg analyzed, dissected and organized the JEWISH data
in an article published in a Zemplen periodical called ''Adalekok
Zemplen Megye Tortenetehez'', which is organized in 18 volumes and it
can be found at Columbia U in NYC.

The data in the census includes 3200 names of head of households or
widows, by location. No family members, wives or occupation(except
professionals-- very few). (I'm sorry I don't have the name of the person
that put this out to the list.
One of my names, GARTENFELD, Hazer, was listed and I had wanted the rest of
the information. This is the answer I recieved.
****************
Dear Ley K. O'Connor,

On receipt of your e-mail, I forwarded a copy to Mr. Frank Unlandherm, our
Judaica bibliographer at Columbia's Library. Below is his response. I
don't know that this will help you much, but I believe this is the best we
can do long distance. Good luck!

Malka Gold
______________



We have the periodical Adalekok...in Butler, but I doubt very much
there is an index to it. The person would either have to come and go
through it himself or hire a Columbia student to do it.


-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
____________________________ 303 International Affairs
/// Frank H. Unlandherm \\\ Columbia University
||| ||| New York, N.Y. 10027-7296
||| Middle East / Jewish ||| 212-854-3995 / FAX: 212-854-3834
\\\ Studies Librarian ///
--------------------------- unlandhe@columbia.edu

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/libraries/indiv/area/MiddleEast/
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/libraries/indiv/area/Jewish/


Re: site with yizkor books for sale #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <lmagyar@...>
 

Thanks Robert,

In addition to myself I know of only two other booksellers in the United
States who carry an inventory of Yizkor books (at least ten different
titles). In Israel there are also several dealers in Yizkor books. See
Jewishgen for more specific information. Even though I carry a few Polish
Yizkor books, 90% of my inventory consists of Yizkor books for towns and
localities in Greater Hungary. On the web site shown below I noticed about
six Hungarian Yizkor book titles. I am pleased to say that I have copies of
each of these books (excluding Tasnad) and my price in each case is less
that Idealbook's price. This is not a put down of Idealbooks since Aron (the
proprietor) may have paid more for his copy than I did. Now, if I only knew
how to put my sales inventory on a web page!

Sincerely,

Louis

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert & Sarah Klein [mailto:hamoreh@netvision.net.il]
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 12:05 PM
To: Hungarian SIG
Subject: site with yizkor books for sale


Not too much >from Hungary, but it's worth a look for those interested.
There are also other categories to search. The address is:

http://www.idealbooks.com/catalog_765/yizkor.htm


Robert



Hungary SIG #Hungary 1811-1812 Zemplem Census/ ColumbiaU answer #hungary

CASHEL3776@...
 

Re: the following, I e-mailed Columbia University regarding getting the rest
of the information. I have attached their answer. Guess I'll have to find me
someone at Columbia to find it for me. Have a better chance of going to Heaven
than getting to New York.
Ley

"Dr izidor Goldberg analyzed, dissected and organized the JEWISH data
in an article published in a Zemplen periodical called ''Adalekok
Zemplen Megye Tortenetehez'', which is organized in 18 volumes and it
can be found at Columbia U in NYC.

The data in the census includes 3200 names of head of households or
widows, by location. No family members, wives or occupation(except
professionals-- very few). (I'm sorry I don't have the name of the person
that put this out to the list.
One of my names, GARTENFELD, Hazer, was listed and I had wanted the rest of
the information. This is the answer I recieved.
****************
Dear Ley K. O'Connor,

On receipt of your e-mail, I forwarded a copy to Mr. Frank Unlandherm, our
Judaica bibliographer at Columbia's Library. Below is his response. I
don't know that this will help you much, but I believe this is the best we
can do long distance. Good luck!

Malka Gold
______________



We have the periodical Adalekok...in Butler, but I doubt very much
there is an index to it. The person would either have to come and go
through it himself or hire a Columbia student to do it.


-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
____________________________ 303 International Affairs
/// Frank H. Unlandherm \\\ Columbia University
||| ||| New York, N.Y. 10027-7296
||| Middle East / Jewish ||| 212-854-3995 / FAX: 212-854-3834
\\\ Studies Librarian ///
--------------------------- unlandhe@columbia.edu

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/libraries/indiv/area/MiddleEast/
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/libraries/indiv/area/Jewish/


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: site with yizkor books for sale #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <lmagyar@...>
 

Thanks Robert,

In addition to myself I know of only two other booksellers in the United
States who carry an inventory of Yizkor books (at least ten different
titles). In Israel there are also several dealers in Yizkor books. See
Jewishgen for more specific information. Even though I carry a few Polish
Yizkor books, 90% of my inventory consists of Yizkor books for towns and
localities in Greater Hungary. On the web site shown below I noticed about
six Hungarian Yizkor book titles. I am pleased to say that I have copies of
each of these books (excluding Tasnad) and my price in each case is less
that Idealbook's price. This is not a put down of Idealbooks since Aron (the
proprietor) may have paid more for his copy than I did. Now, if I only knew
how to put my sales inventory on a web page!

Sincerely,

Louis

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert & Sarah Klein [mailto:hamoreh@netvision.net.il]
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 12:05 PM
To: Hungarian SIG
Subject: site with yizkor books for sale


Not too much >from Hungary, but it's worth a look for those interested.
There are also other categories to search. The address is:

http://www.idealbooks.com/catalog_765/yizkor.htm


Robert



The Neolog Issue/ thanks #hungary

CASHEL3776@...
 

I really wish to thank everyone who has help to answer my question re: Neolog. I really believe I have a much clearer picture now. As soon as I assimilate all this, I'm sure to have others. I do really appreciate the URLs sent out, they were very much a help.

Most of the books I have located locally (no supprise, Nevada) seem to be about German and Russian Jews. I have ordered quite a few interlibrary, but haven't recieved any yet.

I'm getting there.

Ley O'Connor


Hungary SIG #Hungary The Neolog Issue/ thanks #hungary

CASHEL3776@...
 

I really wish to thank everyone who has help to answer my question re: Neolog. I really believe I have a much clearer picture now. As soon as I assimilate all this, I'm sure to have others. I do really appreciate the URLs sent out, they were very much a help.

Most of the books I have located locally (no supprise, Nevada) seem to be about German and Russian Jews. I have ordered quite a few interlibrary, but haven't recieved any yet.

I'm getting there.

Ley O'Connor


searching KASZTRINER #hungary

cyberpass <cyberpass@...>
 

Dearest Chaverim,

Eight months ago I joined this SIG group based solely upon family folklore that we may have come >from Hungary. I only knew the name of my GGF, who
was born in New York. For a while I was a "lurker" (remember those postings?) and then timidly introduced myself and my search.As a completely uninformed newbie at that time (and now I am simply a slightly informed newbie!) I was hoping that by posting my search I would receive tons of replies that would assist me instantly in building my paternal family tree. I had never heard of the LDS or their FHC's, I had never written to any archives, and I wasn't even sure how to spell "genealogy".

Today I not only know that my GGGF, Max KASZTRINER, came here at age 11,in 1866, >from Gyarmat, but I also know his mother, my GGGGM, Antonia Richter, and his father, my GGGGF Herman(both born in Hungary), and I have a very substantial lead on Herman's father, who I believe is Joszef KASZTRIENER, a doctor in the Hapsburg court >from 1818-1826(all of this documented with written records). Also, I have now connected with living KASZTRINER cousins in Cleveland, Seattle, Long Island, Budapest, Sweden, and Australia. Eight months ago I believed my immediate KASTRINER's (yes,
it is spelled this way too!) were the only ones on earth. Now I know much differently, and I feel I have a legacy to leave my children--no matter
what pogroms may come, this tree is something that can never be taken away >from us (even my 3 year old son can now recite back to Max).

While I have spent many hours picking up great leads in a darkened room, viewing scribbled writing in the back of the local LDS church here, and a few other awesome leads >from the Internet, none of this would have been possible without the incredible help I have received directly, and indirectly, >from every participating member of this SIG. I cannot begin to thank everyone....

I still am not sure what constitues a "Hungarian Jew" and whether or not my Hungarian roots are something I should be "proud" of, but I'm not sure that these points matter anyway. I am Jewish, of Hungarian descent Romanian on Mom's side), and because my father is a Ko-hain, I really trace my roots back to Mt. Sinai--I suppose that most of us do, and of this we must be very, very proud.

May all of you, and all of your families, be inscribed for a sweet, healthy, and wonderful New Year. O-seh shalom bim-romav, Hoo ya-aseh shalom aleinu, v'al kol Yisrael, v'yimaroo amen.

Shana Tova,
Sheryl Kastriner
searching any: KASTRINER/KASZTRINER/KASZTRIENER/KASZTREINER, anywhere in the world


Hungary SIG #Hungary searching KASZTRINER #hungary

cyberpass <cyberpass@...>
 

Dearest Chaverim,

Eight months ago I joined this SIG group based solely upon family folklore that we may have come >from Hungary. I only knew the name of my GGF, who
was born in New York. For a while I was a "lurker" (remember those postings?) and then timidly introduced myself and my search.As a completely uninformed newbie at that time (and now I am simply a slightly informed newbie!) I was hoping that by posting my search I would receive tons of replies that would assist me instantly in building my paternal family tree. I had never heard of the LDS or their FHC's, I had never written to any archives, and I wasn't even sure how to spell "genealogy".

Today I not only know that my GGGF, Max KASZTRINER, came here at age 11,in 1866, >from Gyarmat, but I also know his mother, my GGGGM, Antonia Richter, and his father, my GGGGF Herman(both born in Hungary), and I have a very substantial lead on Herman's father, who I believe is Joszef KASZTRIENER, a doctor in the Hapsburg court >from 1818-1826(all of this documented with written records). Also, I have now connected with living KASZTRINER cousins in Cleveland, Seattle, Long Island, Budapest, Sweden, and Australia. Eight months ago I believed my immediate KASTRINER's (yes,
it is spelled this way too!) were the only ones on earth. Now I know much differently, and I feel I have a legacy to leave my children--no matter
what pogroms may come, this tree is something that can never be taken away >from us (even my 3 year old son can now recite back to Max).

While I have spent many hours picking up great leads in a darkened room, viewing scribbled writing in the back of the local LDS church here, and a few other awesome leads >from the Internet, none of this would have been possible without the incredible help I have received directly, and indirectly, >from every participating member of this SIG. I cannot begin to thank everyone....

I still am not sure what constitues a "Hungarian Jew" and whether or not my Hungarian roots are something I should be "proud" of, but I'm not sure that these points matter anyway. I am Jewish, of Hungarian descent Romanian on Mom's side), and because my father is a Ko-hain, I really trace my roots back to Mt. Sinai--I suppose that most of us do, and of this we must be very, very proud.

May all of you, and all of your families, be inscribed for a sweet, healthy, and wonderful New Year. O-seh shalom bim-romav, Hoo ya-aseh shalom aleinu, v'al kol Yisrael, v'yimaroo amen.

Shana Tova,
Sheryl Kastriner
searching any: KASTRINER/KASZTRINER/KASZTRIENER/KASZTREINER, anywhere in the world