FW: Projekt upamiętnienia więźniów KL Plaszow// Comemoration projekt od Plaszow camp’s prisoners #poland


Hello Genners,

I have been in touch with  Mr. Kamil Karski in Poland for several months.  He is working diligently to establish a memorial /museum at the site of the  KL  Plaszow.   The  camp commander was the ‘Butcher of Plaszow’, Amon  Goeth and the camp was featured in the movie Shindler’s List.  My 95 year old mother was a prisoner in this horrific camp and her information and picture have already been cataloged.

Please note – for English scroll down.

Thank you, Malka Chosnek





From: Kamil Karski
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 5:02 AM
To: bpilat210@...
Cc: Marta Śmietana
Subject: Projekt upamiętnienia więźniów KL Plaszow// Comemoration projekt od Plaszow camp’s prisoners


For English, Please scroll down


Szanowni Państwo, 

z Muzeum KL Plaszow skontaktowała się Pani Bożena Piłat, która obecnie przygotowuje projekt, który miałby stanowić upamiętnienie poszczególnych osób, więźniów KL Plaszow, ukazując całe spektrum pamięci o nich, zarówno z czasów przed, jak i powojennych. Po rozmowie z panią Bożeną, wiem, że praca ta jest niezwykle wartościowym sposobem na przywracanie pamięci o tych osobach, a również dla Muzeum będzie niezwykle ważna. 


Autorka projektu chciałby się z Państwem skontaktować osobiście, niemniej jako Muzeum, ze względu na klauzule informacyjne RODO i wykorzystanie danych osobowych nie możemy udostępnić bezpośrednio Państwa kontaktów i też nie wiem do końca czy chcieli by Państwo uczestniczyć w projekcie. Dlatego też załączam Państwa adresy w „ukrytej” formie, mając nadzieję, że zdecydują się Państwo na kontakt i rozmowę z Panią Bożeną.


W razie wszelkich wątpliwości i pytań możecie się Państwo kontaktować ze mną, lub bezpośrednio z Panią Bożeną Piłat bpilat210@...


Łączę wyrazy szacunku i serdeczne pozdrowienia,

Kamil Karski



Dear Sirs nad Madames, 

The KL Plaszow Museum was contacted by Ms Bożena Piłat, who is currently preparing a project that would commemorate individual people, prisoners of KL Plaszow, showing the entire spectrum of remembrance about them, both from pre-and post-war times. After talking to Mrs. Bożena, I know that this work is an extremely valuable way to restore the memory of these people, and it will also be extremely important for the Museum. 

The author of the project would like to contact you in person, but as the Museum, due to the information clauses and the use of personal data, we cannot share your contacts directly and I am not sure if you would like to participate in the project. Therefore, I am enclosing your mail addresses in a "hidden" CC, hoping that you will decide to contact and talk to Mrs. Bożena. 

In case of any doubts and questions, please feel free to contact me, or directly with Mrs. Bożena Piłat bpilat210@... 

Kind regards,

Kamil Karski


Panteon Israelita, Mexico City #latinamerica

Adam Turner

I'm looking for some information on the Panteon Israelita (possibly also known as Panteon Ashkenazi) just south of the Bosque de Chapultepec in Mexico City. Other than Jono David's photos of some of this cemetery, I wasn't able to find much clear information online about it. 

I have several relatives (born in Hungary) who appear to be buried here and was hoping to prepare before visiting the cemetery so I'm not walking the place blindly. Specifically:

-does the cemetery have an office on the premises?
-how many burials are here?
-are there maps or computerized records that might help me locate the graves of my cousins?

Adam Turner

Re: 1930 Czechoslovak Census #hungary #slovakia #announcements #records

Moshe Davis

Hi Peter,

I would be very interested in helping to transcribe the records from Marmaros, if they are available.
Especially certain towns in the area near the city Chust.

Thank you for posting about this,
Moshe Davis
Jerusalem Israel

On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 at 14:26, Dave Baron <dmbaron@...> wrote:
Dakujem Peter, I appreciate the responsiveness and assistance.  My family lived at Kapucínska​ Street No. 9 in Bratislava.  For what it’s worth, when your project starts or when the city section become available, I signed up to volunteer for your project. I don’t speak the language, but happy to help as much as I can.    
David Baron
Baltimore, Maryland

Re: Searching annulated Israeli citizenship without ID #israel #general

Yehuda Berman

How do you know that you had Israeli citizenship? If your parent/s was/were Israeli citizens at the time of your birth, you are automatically an Israeli citizen and your ID appears on your Israeli birth certificate. If they immigrated with you as a child you automatically became a citizen at the same time they did. Cancelling or annulling Israeli citizenship is not a simple process and has to be applied for, and the Minister of the Interior has to approve it individually. Very few people cancel their citizenship, for that very reason. Even if they later become citizens of another country and renounce their previous citizenship, that doesn't count as far as the Israeli government is concerned - only going through the Israeli renunciation procedure counts.
But why do you need to know? Curiosity? Are you going to Israel as a tourist and are afraid of being drafted into the army? But if you don't know, neither does the the Israeli army. Finding out is just as hard and time-consuming for the government as it is for you - and why would they bother to search? If you immigrate to Israel, then army service is mostly a matter of your age and visa status. Or are you applying for citizenship in a country which demands that you renounce previous citizenship? But how do they know that you may have had Israeli citizenship unless you tell them? And why would you tell them if you yourself don't know? 
Yehuda Berman

Re: Seeking emigration information FROM the U.S. #israel #poland #usa

Sherri Bobish


Have you seen the U.S. passport application for Leib HONIG?

Wife Chume, and son Mendel are listed.  Mendel born NY April 17, 1891.

Application was witnessed by Reuben HONIG, 53 willet.

More info is contained in the application, i.e. town of birth, that you can see on

Good luck in your search,

Sherri Bobish

Searching: RATOWSKY / CHAIMSON (Ariogala / Ragola, Lith.)
WALTZMAN / WALZMAN (Ustrzyki Dolne / Istryker, Pol.)
LEVY (Tyrawa Woloska, Pol.)
LEFFENFELD / LEFENFELD / FINK, KALTER (Daliowa/ Posada Jasliska, Pol.)
BOJDA / BERGER (Tarnobrzeg, Pol.)
SOKALSKY / SOLON / SOLAN / FINGER(MAN) (Grodek, Bialystok, Pol.)
BOBISH / APPEL (Odessa?)

Re: Please help me identify this lady. Taken in 1876 in New Orleans, I cannot understand her name and I'd appreciate any suggestions #photographs


I agree with Kristina regarding the French influence on New Orleans culture.  I also interpreted the writing as "Ma" as in French for "my", and "Chou" as in "cabbage" or cute/dear one/a term of endearment/affection.  So - Ma Grandma, Mrs. Chou.  

Great picture!
Amy Mitchell

Re: Are those gravestones proof my ancestors were jewish? #germany


Yes, definitely there are many differences in various parts of this country, but you started with a German grave, a country where there is more homogeneity.  Or was until recently.  Perhaps you might contact someone in Germany who is conversant with the customs there.
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC

Re: Subject: Did individuals ever use names other than their own in Lithuania #lithuania #names

Janet Reagan

My great-grandfather and his brothers took surnames of their wives’ families so that each would appear to be the only son of a Jewish family to avoid conscription in the Tsar’s army. 
(Yurkanski was my great-grandfather)

Janet Goldstein Reagan
Birmingham , Alabama

Re: Please help me identify this lady. Taken in 1876 in New Orleans, I cannot understand her name and I'd appreciate any suggestions #photographs


I took Spanish in school,  so will bow to your knowledge of French re. "Ma" and the cultural meaning of cabbage, but I dispute your reading of "Mis".
The dot which appears north of that word is one of at least a hundred which appear at random all over this old paper.
I call coincidence on that and stick with "Mrs.," which makes this English usage and not French. 

For that matter even in French it would be "Mlle" and "Mme" or something like that, mais non?

Robert Roth
Kingston, NY

New Book: Unbroken Chain - Third Edition - Volume 6 Published #general

Gary Mokotoff

Volume 6 (of an anticipated 10 volumes!) of “The Unbroken Chain—Third Edition” has been published. Author Neil Rosenstein has devoted the past 30 years to updating and improving his landmark work, “The Unbroken Chain,” and now is in the process of publishing its Third Edition.


Volume 6 is so huge—1516 pages—it requires two physical volumes. This is because it is the major branch of the Horowitz family that descends from the MaHaRaL of Prague (died 1619) and includes all major Horowitz dynasties such as Bostoner, Ropshitz, etc and their Chassidic Rebbes.


“The Unbroken Chain” documents—on one family tree—tens of thousands of descendants of Rabbi Meir Katzenellenbogen (MaHaRaM) of Padua (1482–1565) and Rabbi Judah Lowe (MaHaRaL) of Prague through 22 generations.


The new edition is a major improvement to the previous edition both in number of persons and quality of the work.

Second Edition (1990)                           Third Edition (2017/2021)                  

Two volumes, 1,350 pages                    Ten volumes, 5,000 pages

20,000 names                                          50,000 names

Surname-only index                               Full name index

No illustrations                                       300 illustrations (Vol 1 alone)

1,600 footnotes                                       1,000 footnotes (Vol. 1 alone)

Up to 16 generations                              Up to 22 generations


Ordering information for any of the six volumes is at The site includes a complete list of names for each of the six volumes.


Gary Mokotoff


Re: Seeking any descendants of Herscu Grinberg/Aprivei #romania #general


Not sure how accurate the research I had done is. According to what they found my Greenberg family may have come from elsewhere in Europe before having some kind of instructions to settle in Romania. Most of all the information I have is on my tree which is on Ancestry. So if you have any questions please contact me directly. I can tell you that since the 1800's they were in Hertza Dorohoi.

Sarah Greenberg (USA)

Re: Success story for a Cantonist not possible without revision lists. #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan

There is a very interesting book about this topic "Jews in the Russian Army, 1827 - 1917: Drafted into Modernity", by Yohanan Petrovsky-Shtern.  Cambridge University Press, 2009.

Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia Group Leader and Coordinator

Re: Subject: Did individuals ever use names other than their own in Lithuania #lithuania #names

carol lipson

My father’s family lived in Belarus, near Gomel, but they considered themselves Litvaks. For one or two generations before my father, who was born in 1910, the family name was Litvinov. It became Litwin in Canada. When she was in her 90’s, my father’s sister told me the name wasn’t really Litvinov, but Lifshitz; it had been changed by a great great (another great?) grandfather to avoid the draft. Funny thing — by the time she told me, I was long married to a Lifshitz whose family came from Minsk District, in a town between Minsk and Pinsk, in Belarus; they changed their name in Canada to Lipson. I had no idea I had married into a family whose name was the same as my family’s original name.

Carol Litwin Lipson

Re: Please help me identify this lady. Taken in 1876 in New Orleans, I cannot understand her name and I'd appreciate any suggestions #photographs

Susanna Vendel

It looks like Mrs Oliver or Eliou for me.

Susanna Vendel

Re: Marriage document date doesn't match other records #records #poland

Relly coleman

At that time in Poland people often only had a religious marriage. A civil one followed if they needed it for legal purposes, such as applying for a passport.  It is not unusual to find a marriage registration years after children were born. Seems like your g-g-parents moved to Scotland shortly after their religious marriage. The second date may therefore be the civil and thus the ‘official’ one for legal purposes. 

relly coleman

Re: Irish Jewish Roots in JGSGB UK Database on JewishGen #unitedkingdom #records

Richard Gordon

I don't know whether this will be of any help but you could contact Stuart Rosenblatt, see contact details below.


Stuart Rosenblatt P.C. FGSI (2005) 
The address  Irish Jewish Genealogical Society

(A division of the Irish Jewish Museum)

3 Walworth Road, South Circular Road, Dublin 8, Ireland

Email: srosenblatt@...  Phone: + 44 (0) 788 979  4757
SKYPE: Stuart.Rosenblatt. Google: Stuart Rosenblatt Ireland    Radio program
 Author of "The Yidiot's Guide to Irish Jewish Ancestry" 2011

Richard Gordon.
Searching for GORDON in Belarus, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland.
available from

Re: Irish Jewish Roots in JGSGB UK Database on JewishGen #unitedkingdom #records


Hi Michael,
Thank you for pointing me to the Irish Jewish Genealogical Society!  I found the mysterious record on that site - it is an extracted birth record, and still mysterious.  But now we know where to look!

It turns out that the combination of the Royal Flying Corp and the Royal Naval Service into the Royal Air Force occurred in April, 1918 and the war didn't end until Nov, 2018.  I believe that men in that part of the British military considered themselves (and I think were officially discharged) from the Royal Air Force.  You can read more on the website of the RAF Museum here:   Welcome to RAF Museum Storyvault - RAF Museum Storyvault

Peggy Mosinger Freedman
Atlanta, Georgia, USA

Re: 1930 Czechoslovak Census #hungary #slovakia #announcements #records

Dave Baron

Dakujem Peter, I appreciate the responsiveness and assistance.  My family lived at Kapucínska​ Street No. 9 in Bratislava.  For what it’s worth, when your project starts or when the city section become available, I signed up to volunteer for your project. I don’t speak the language, but happy to help as much as I can.    
David Baron
Baltimore, Maryland

Re: Marriage document date doesn't match other records #records #poland

Eleanor Lind

Did the calendar not alter?
eleanor Lind 

Re: Irish Jewish Roots in JGSGB UK Database on JewishGen #unitedkingdom #records

Michael Hoffman

Hello Peggy,

Access the website of the Irish Jewish Genealogical Society at the following website :- and do a search for the person that you are looking for.
This is the definitive website for all Jewish Research in the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland.

The Royal Air Force was not formed until after WWI, which was an amalgamation of the Royal Flying Corp and the Royal Naval Service,
the Royal Naval Equivalent of the Royal Flying Corp. 


Michael Hoffman

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