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Is anyone familiar with the surname RISHKIN or a similar name from the area around Klintsy, Surazh, Mogilev, Gomel or other nearby towns. My mother was named after her paternal grandmother, whose first name was Sarah (or two sources said "Shima Sura"), but whose surname is in dispute. Based on handwritten testimony from another granddaughter, and a couple Social Security applications, it could have been RISHKIN, RICKLIN, or something similar, but the best analysis suggests RISHKIN. She married Hillel BEILIN, who was born in Klintsy circa 1847. Sarah died circa 1905, in Klintsy, apparently from complications following childbirth. We have never located any records regarding Sarah, and we have no idea of either her father's or mother's name, nor do we have any photos of her. This is my only great-grandparent for whom the surname has never been confirmed.
One other fact which may be helpful is that my BEILIN family resided in Mstislavl/Mstsislaw prior to moving to Klintsy. Possibly Sarah was from that town. I would be very interested to know if anyone has roots in towns from the old Chernigov or Mogilev gubernias with the surname resembling RISHKIN or RICKLIN (or similar). Brian Neil Burg Fullerton, California, USA MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately Researching ALTER, KLEIN, and BURG from Sasiv, Zolochiv, & Pidkamin (Galicia, now Ukraine); BYK & CHARATZ/KHARATS from Khmielnik, Stara Synyava, Kalinivka, & Odessa (Podolsk Gubernia, now Ukraine); BEILIN & RISHKIN or RICKLIN (or similar) from Klintsy, Mstsislaw, and related areas (Mogilev and Chernigov gubernias); FRYDMAN, GUTMAN, JASKULKA, JASTRZAB & SZARFMAN from Wegrow and Sokolow Podlaski (Siedlce Gubernia, now Poland); CHAJKIELSON, GOLUBSKI, KRZYWULSKI, TYLZANSKI, & WASZKIEWICZ from Kaletnik, Suwalki, & Widugieri (Suwalki Gubernia, now Poland); and KABAKOV, FRIEDMAN & PORTNOI from Dokshitsy (Minsk Gubernia, now Belarus)
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Re: Zvenigorodka
#ukraine
mvayser@...
David,
The records are not kept in Zvenigorodka, but in Kiev, mostly in the DAKO (State Archive of the Kiev Oblast). A lot of these documents have already been scanned and available online, but a small percentage has been transcribed/translated. This would include census records, military recruit lists, synagogue elections, etc Vital records (births/marriages/etc) are kept in the Cherkassy archives, although there are online scans of these documents on FamilySearch.org. This is likely what Meryl is referring to as the LDS site. Mike Vayser
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ViewMate translation request - France
#france
#translation
mvayser@...
Hello
I've posted a vital record in French for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address https://www.jewishgen.org/view Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page or here. I'm clear on the names and hometown of the bride and groom and their parents, but looking for their age, job, date of marriage and other genealogically-relevant information. Last paragraph lists multiple names, what is their relevance? Thank you very much. Mike Vayser
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Re: Konskowola and Ozarów
#poland
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The most direct way to obtain authoritative information about the surviving records for towns
in Poland is to visit the JRI-Poland Town Explorer pages https://beta.jri-poland.org/town/
and navigate to the town of interest, then click on the link to the webform that enables you to....
Stanley Diamond, M.S.M. (Montreal, 514-484-0100)
Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.
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Re: Name Confusion (was: Top 10 Jewish Genealogy Myths)
#names
jbonline1111@...
Every immigrant relative I know of, all from Russia, switched to Americanized names once they came to the USA. That led to a funny exchange with my father thirty years ago. I said: "Dad, I found several people with the right (grand)father, but their names are not familiar." Dad:"What names did you find?" Me: "One was Dina Rive." Dad: "Oh, that's my Aunt Tillie." That's how I learned to ask for Hebrew/Yiddish names as well as American names.
-- Barbara Sloan Conway, SC
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Re: Changing Last Name
#canada
jbonline1111@...
I don't know Canadian law, but in the United States people can use any name they wish as long as it is not for fraudulent purposes. Therefore, some of my relatives changed their name but didn't go to court to do so. I suspect if someone changed their names on birth certificates, then that name change was through a court.
-- Barbara Sloan Conway, SC
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CORRECTED LINK Viewmate translation request - Yiddish article
#yiddish
#translation
msussman@...
I've posted an article from the Jewish Express in Yiddish. Although a full translation would great, it is a bit long. I would appreciate a translation of information relating to any specific individuals or families and their circumstances. It is on ViewMate at the following ...
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM96337
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.Thank you very much. Michael Sussman
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Viewmate Translation Russian
#translation
srg100@...
Please could someone translate the Russian birth document I've posted on Viewmate at the following address:
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM96397 Please respond via the form provided on the Viewmate page. Many thanks! -- Shoshanah Glickman UK
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Great Aunt's family Found thanks to helpful Jewishgenners
#JewishGenUpdates
Hello...A few weeks ago I posted about a brick wall. Two kind people wrote to me ( you know who you are) and easily I found my grandfather's sister's descendants. My grandfather had 3 sisters and 4 brothers and I have found all of their families now (except for the two new brothers I knew nothing about). The grandagaughter of my great aunt, my mother's cousin's daughter, has the SAME JEWISH NAME as I do. I told her all I knew and sent her my family tree....I sent her many photos of her grandparents and her mother and uncle. She was thrilled!
Thank you to my kind helpers. susan stone Evanston, IL
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Re: Highlights of Recent Records, Features & What's Coming Up!
#JewishGenUpdates
Nadene Norr
I wonder why there are no efforts to supply records from Mexico? Many conversos washed up there and often were subsequently lost to history. However, traces remain and your efforts would greatly enhance other’s genealogical searches.
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Sincerely, Nadene Norr
On Dec 12, 2021, at 9:44 PM, Avraham Groll <agroll@...> wrote:
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Re: Palestine cemetery research
#general
Dahn Cukier
I will take this opertunity to continue. There are many mistakes in the indexed listing. My sister is listed was Shimchi שימחי while her family name was Simchi . שמחי The shin probably is recorded with the dot on the left and the indexer thought it was a shin yud. Another was a bet indexed as a double vav, and a 1934 poorly repainted hey was indexed as a vav. The hey was seen only after I took a high resolution photo, I did not even see it at the site. When searching, be creative. Do not always include all the fields and make dates a range of dates. At every step there can be mistakes. With the 1934/1936 the mistake was the person repainting the date on the stone. Dahn Zukrowicz In short: How do you know the person writing the information, wrote it correct?
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Re: Translation of Hebrew Inscriptions
#translation
shimonsporn
I thought I would rewrite the translation including the main points of the other fine translations by David Dubin, David Rosen, Relly Coleman, etc. plus a few relevant thoughts. This is a beautifully written epitaph of a very virtuous woman. It paraphrases several Biblical quotes. The directly translated words are in Bold. This Is the tombstone of a woman who Was modest at home and in public. Paraphrases a verse from Tehillim (Psalms 45:14) where King David describes a “princess who is modest displays more honor than her royal gold garments.” The next two lines quote directly from (Mishlei Proverbs 31:20, which Rabbinical classic commentaries attribute as to being authored by Shlomo Halamech, (King Salomon) in tribute to his mother Queen BasSheva or his ancestor, Ruth. Other commentaries explain it as a Kabalistic allegory to G-d’s heavenly presence via the Torah. For hundreds of years, Proverbs, 31:10-31) known as Aishes Chayil- Woman of Valor, has been sung at the Shabbos table every Friday evening till today. She spreads out her hand to the poor man, she stretches her hands out to the needy. She is the modest woman (Paraphrasing The Talmud Tractate Baba Mezi'a 87a, describing our Matriarch Sarah, wife of Abraham) Rechel daughter of Asher She left (this world) with a good name 27th day of Jewish month of Ellul And was gathered to her people on eve of Rosh Hashanah 5 631. Paraphrases the verse in Bereishis (Genesis 25:8) describing the death of our patriarch, Abraham. (The Talmud Baba Basra 16B, states the term “gathered to his/her people” is reserved to describe the very pious.) As Steve Goldberg discerned, The 27th of Elul 5630 was a Friday. Apparently she passed away too late in the day to be buried before Shabbat and, therefore, the funeral was held only on Sunday, the 29th of Elul, the eve of the Jewish New Year. Observation: Our tradition is that when a Jewish Holiday like in this instance, Rosh Hashanah interrupts the seven days of Shiva, it nullifies the rest of the shiva. We can assume that her family sat shiva for just the few hours on Sunday between her burial and candle lighting 20 minutes before sunset, and the onset of Rosh Hashanah.
According to the article of the History of the Leeds Jewish Community, https://www.jewishgen.org/jcr-uk/Community/Leeds/articles/Leeds_the_Early_Years.htm it was a Ghetto type of community of only a few hundred Jews in the 1860's. Most of the community were poor working class struggling to earn a living. In a small community Mrs. Dombein's pious acts of Tzadekah and Charity to the needy most certainly had an impact and her passing was probably felt by many.
It is considered meritorious to share the same Date of passing with Holy tzaddikim. Others who passed away on the 27th of Ellul although in different years were Rav Nosson Adler, teacher of the Chasam Sofer, (1800), Rav Yaakov Leib of Kvahl (1833) & Rav Shalom Rokeach of Belz (the Sar Shalom), founder of Belz Chassidus.
Shimon Sporn of Beit Shemesh, Israel Researcher # 57380 Perl, Margolies, Itzkowitz, Lehrer families from Kisvarda, Fenyeslitke, Ustilug, Leher- Rozenberg families of Hrubieszów Galicia Edmondton, London Sporn, Abraham families of Marosorozfalu, Rusii Munti, Saszreghin
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Re: Subject: Did individuals ever use names other than their own in Lithuania
#lithuania
#names
Jules Levin
I wonder who was selling "Meyer" in Russia. Was there a whole market in names?? No one had to buy a name to start using it. The Russians, thank hashem, were not that efficient. Bobbe mayse. Jules Levin
On 12/19/21 7:51 AM, Sarah L Meyer
wrote:
The family story is that my great grandfather Fishel the son of Joseph Perchik bought the surname Meyer to avoid Czarist conscription. What we do know is that he came to the US in 1884 under the name Fishel Meyer and the Meyer surname (some branches of the family added an "s') and he and the family are enumerated in various US censuses with the surname Meyer. His wife also came over with the Meyer surname in 1887.
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Re: Name Confusion (was: Top 10 Jewish Genealogy Myths)
#names
Jules Levin
Way back in 1940 I was named Yehudah Efraim... --Jules Fred
Levin (Fred!!, not Frederick--don't ask me why. Only time I used
Fred was waiting for a table in a crowded restaurant. That's
because over the noise "Jules!" sounded like "Jews"... By the
way my grandfather Yehuda was already using "Julius" in the old
country... Jules Levin
On 12/19/21 7:46 AM, Sarah L Meyer
wrote:
Peter,
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#announcements
#education
#JewishGenUpdates
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Re: Subject: Did individuals ever use names other than their own in Lithuania
#lithuania
#names
Sarah L Meyer
The family story is that my great grandfather Fishel the son of Joseph Perchik bought the surname Meyer to avoid Czarist conscription. What we do know is that he came to the US in 1884 under the name Fishel Meyer and the Meyer surname (some branches of the family added an "s') and he and the family are enumerated in various US censuses with the surname Meyer. His wife also came over with the Meyer surname in 1887.
-- Sarah L Meyer Georgetown TX ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania https://www.sarahsgenies.com
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Re: Name Confusion (was: Top 10 Jewish Genealogy Myths)
#names
Sarah L Meyer
Peter,
People often had both Hebrew and secular names. They could have been Hebrew and Yiddish (caiques) or Hebrew and English, etc. Also in more recent times people may have chosen a secular name that had the same initial sound as the Hebrew. I can definitely state that my father Fred's Hebrew name was Efraim. -- Sarah L Meyer Georgetown TX ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania https://www.sarahsgenies.com
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Re: Irish Jewish Roots in JGSGB UK Database on JewishGen
#unitedkingdom
#records
David Harrison <djh_119@...>
You have made a very common error. The fighting ended at 11 am on the 11th of November (the 11th month) of 1918. But that was the Armistice. The War did not end for another 2 years when the Peace Treaty was signed. Note that the fighting between North Korea
and Soth Korea ended about 60 years ago, but the Peace Treaty is only just being discussed. Countries are technically at war until Peace is signed and this sometimes forgotten and does not happen until a second war has come to a fighting end.
David Harrison
Birmingham, England.
From: main@... <main@...> on behalf of peggyfreedman@... <peggyfreedman@...>
Sent: 15 December 2021 14:43 To: main@... <main@...> Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Irish Jewish Roots in JGSGB UK Database on JewishGen #unitedkingdom #records Hi Michael,
Thank you for pointing me to the Irish Jewish Genealogical Society! I found the mysterious record on that site - it is an extracted birth record, and still mysterious. But now we know where to look! It turns out that the combination of the Royal Flying Corp and the Royal Naval Service into the Royal Air Force occurred in April, 1918 and the war didn't end until Nov, 2018. I believe that men in that part of the British military considered themselves (and I think were officially discharged) from the Royal Air Force. You can read more on the website of the RAF Museum here: Welcome to RAF Museum Storyvault - RAF Museum Storyvault Regards, Peggy Mosinger Freedman Atlanta, Georgia, USA
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New and Updated Databases on IGRA’s Website
#announcements
#israel
Elena Bazes
The Israel Genealogy Research Association (IGRA) has just released new and updated databases on its website. There are now over 2,000,000 records available in our databases. With each release we provide a variety of records to our collection. A preview of the databases is available at https://www.slideshare.net/igra3/igra-release-december2021?fbclid=IwAR3bCGML53F6XT9bDivxp6CL9pYhNzWnGclboENtVjovSrIpVpPGn38oM24 Updated Databases Voters - Local Elections Tel Aviv 1947 Letters zayin-kaf 8,713 listings Tel Aviv-Yafo Archive Voters Constituent Assembly 1949 Rehovot, Tiberias & settlements 37,503 listings Israel State Archives Before viewing and searching the databases, please register for free on the IGRA website: http://genealogy.org.il/ To view/search the databases, go to the database tab on the website. Please note, the IGRA databases are now searchable to all registrants. The search results page is also available to all registrants. Additional details regarding most databases are available only to paid IGRA members. Certain exceptions exist due to requests of the specific archives.
Elena Biegel Bazes IGRA Publicity Chair
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Translation Needed - Russian
#russia
#translation
menahem luz
could anyone help with a short note written in Russian pre-Revolution Cursive my problem is whether the writer is Zephyra or is it sent/dedicated TO Zephyra thanks Menahem Luz
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