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Re: Father and son with same name and what is correct name of grandfather?
#names
jbonline1111@...
"...there is a note on the record that the “father is registered in Bobruisk”. Does this mean the father was still alive at the time of his sons birth?" Is it possible that the father was both registered there and deceased? Perhaps someone can answer this question.
Similar to Shelley MItchell's post, every first born in my family except has a name that starts with B, including me. The other family's second born's name starts with B; the first born was named for the mother's deceased mother. The rest of us were named for my maternal grandmother, who died well before we were born. -- Barbara Sloan Conway, SC
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Have searched databases and so far found nothing. Assume there may be records not yet in JG database. Would like to hire in-country researcher. Advice, please.
Glenda Mattes Looking for: Herschel Zalman in Romania, Asher Zeilic Bolner in Romania/Austria/Hungary Abraham Mattes Pittsburgh USA s/o Moshe ?, Nachem Cohen, grain merchant in Ukraine
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SIMOWITZ family from Kovno
#lithuania
Carol Karp
I have been looking to find SIMOWITZ family from Kovno Lithuania. I don’t know where in Kovno they lived so I’ve hit a brick wall. The parents were Hirsch Simowitz and Minnie Rubin. The children who came to New York were Sarah, Jacob,Minnie, Gussie and Lina.
Any help to locate their shetel would be welcome. Carol Karp
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Help - finding more information about grandmother's maiden BREWDA
#poland
David Buford
My grandmother married Tevel (Teiwel, Tuvia) Gold. My father said her name was Alte but my father’s birth certificate says
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The Jewish District of Krakow: Centuries of Change - Smithsonian Lecture
#poland
#education
#announcements
finejeffy@...
I saw this announcement on the Smithsonian Website and thought it might be of interest to the group.:
Wednesday, March 9, 2022 - 12:00 p.m. to 1:15 p.m. ET Despite centuries of prejudice, prosecution, and political setbacks, nothing could force out the Jews of Kazimierz—a district of Krakow in Poland established in the 14th century. Over the centuries, they built their lives, gaining religious and other freedoms along the way. In the years between the World Wars (1918-1939), many were engaged in scientific, educational, and cultural endeavors, and even began to participate in local politics. But World War II and the Holocaust spelled catastrophe for the inhabitants of Kazimierz, beginning with the gradual deprivation of rights and culminating in deportation and death in the camps. Only 10 percent of Kazimierz’s population survived. Today, it is one of the best-preserved Jewish districts left in Europe Christopher Skutela, author and tour guide, highlights the district’s history and sites, beginning at Szeroka Street Square, anchored by Krakow’s oldest synagogue. Other sites include Nowy Square, where Jewish merchants once gathered; Podgorze, home to sculptural chairs that commemorate lives lost in WWII; and the enamel factory of Oskar Schindler, the man who saved thousands from the Nazis. Jeff Fine Montclair, NJ, USA finejeffy@... Family names/towns Shecter, Eisenberg (Sekuran, Bessarabia; Odessa) Ekelchick, Sussman (Igumen, Minsk, Belarus) Fine, Z(w)erlin (Pruzhany, Belarus) Hassenfeld, Laufer, Reich, Ölbaum (Ulanow, Poland) Treistman (Warsaw) Feit (Tarnobrzeg)
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Re: Father and son with same name and what is correct name of grandfather?
#names
Shelley Mitchell
Naming patterns are often confusing. We have a whole bunch of Ss down the line. Great grandfathers Szloma, Szymon, grandfather Zalman/Solomon, uncle Sidney, deceased 1st cousin Steven, living 1st cousin Steven, etc. The lesson : without being told who everyone was named after, it would be difficult to determine. It does help trying to match up deaths. For example, when my great grandmother died, my grandmother named her next born after her mother.
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Search birth certificate of my grandfather Herman (Germain) OSTROW (OSTROV) from Odessa / Kherson in UKRAINE born in Constantinople (Istanbul) in TURKEY
#ukraine
Agnès COCHET
Hello everyone,
Who can help me find birth certificate of my grandfather Herman (Germain) OSTROW (OSTROV). He was born on April 14, 1906 in CONSTANTINOPLE (ISTANBUL) in TURKEY. His father Aaron OSTROW and his mother Feïga (Frida, Freida, Faega) KRAMER (KRAHMER, KRAEMER) are from Odessa / Kherson in UKRAINE.
With all my thanks for any help you could give me.
Agnes COCHET France
Research: OSTROW (OSTROV) Regions KHERSON - ODESSA (UKRAINE) Regions BURSA, ISTANBUL (TURKEY) KRAMER (KRAHMER, KRAEMER) Regions KHERSON - ODESSA (UKRAINE) ABOUCAYA Regions ALGIERS - CONSTANTINE (ALGERIA)
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Agnès COCHET
Hello everyone,
Who can help me find birth certificate of my grandfather Herman (Germain) OSTROW (OSTROV)?
He was born on April 14, 1906 in CONSTANTINOPLE (ISTANBUL) in TURKEY. His father Aaron OSTROW and his mother Feïga (Frida, Freida, Faega) KRAMER (KRAHMER, KRAEMER) are from Odessa / Kherson in UKRAINE.
Agnes COCHET
France
Research:
OSTROW (OSTROV) Regions KHERSON - ODESSA (UKRAINE) Regions BURSA, ISTANBUL (TURKEY)
KRAMER (KRAHMER, KRAEMER) Regions KHERSON - ODESSA (UKRAINE)
ABOUCAYA Regions ALGIERS - CONSTANTINE (ALGERIA)
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Research OSTROW family originally from Odessa / Kherson in UKRAINE who passed through Constantinople (Istanbul) in TURKEY
#ukraine
Agnès COCHET
Hello everyone,
Who can help me find my great-grandfather Aaron OSTROW (OSTROV). He was born around 1868 in the ODESSA / KHERSON in Ukraine.
He would have married around 1893 with my great-grandmother KRAMER (KRAHMER, KRAEMER) Feïga (Frida, Freida, Faega) born July 4, 1874 in ODESSA in UKRAINE where they would have worked as furrier. Feiga died in AUCHWITZ on February 11, 1943, the day of her arrival at camp by convoy N °47 from Drancy.
To my knowledge, they would have had at least 5 children:
1 - Timotoni (Tonie), died in Auschwitz in 04/1943, married to LEIBOVITCH Yasha Avram born on 22-3-1885 in NIKOPOL in UKRAINE died in 12-1942 in Auschwitz (2 children Ida and Willy hidden by a priest in MARSEILLE then died in 1943.
2 - Chaïa (Charles) born November 17, 1896 in KHERSON in UKRAINE, married to HOZENKO Gesia born January 20, 1899 in NICOLAIEV in UKRAINE. He arrived in France in Paris around 1924 from TURKEY (BURSA or CONSTANTINOPLE) with his mother, his wife and 2 children (Maria born in 1919 and Chemouel born in 1921 in CONSTANTINOPLE) then obtained French nationality. Casquetier, he died in PARIS 20th district on November 18, 1957.
3 - Zina (Gilberte) born July 14, 1900 in ODESSA in UKRAINE, married with Paul FOURCROY around 1920 in CONSTANTINOPLE? Arrived in France ?
4 - Hermann (Germain), my grandfather born April 14, 1906 in CONSTANTINOPLE (ISTANBUL) in TURKEY.
Who can help me find his birth certificate?
He married in 1927 with Jeanne LEVY in COURBEVOIE in France (1 daughter). then divorced and remarried with my grandmother Nelly ABOUCAYA on May 10, 1937 in ALGIERS, ALGERIA (2 daughters). he died on August 21, 1944 in ALGIERS without recognized nationality.
5 - Maria (Marie), born in 1907 in Constantinople ???
Here is everything I have been able to piece together for 37 years. If anyone can give me a clue of research, I would be very happy. Thanks in advance
Agnes COCHET France
Research: OSTROW (OSTROV) to KHERSON - ODESSA (UKRAINE) and to BURSA, ISTANBUL (TURKEY) KRAMER (KRAHMER, KRAEMER) to KHERSON - ODESSA (UKRAINE) ABOUCAYA to ALGIERS - CONSTANTINE (ALGERIA)
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Re: Seeking translation of Hebrew on tombstone for Jennie Rubin
#translation
Omri Arnon
Here is buried Sheindl daughter of R' Pinkhas
Omri Arnon
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Re: Seeking translation of Hebrew on tombstone for Louis Wolf Rubin
#translation
aaran1286@...
Hi Mary,
Here is a translation. Here lies Our dear father Mr Wolf Leib, the son of Baruch Who died on the 3rd of Adar, 5686 May his soul be bound up in the bond of life Hope this helps, Yoav Aran London
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Where is Syoninntzea?
#romania
#austria-czech
#ukraine
Eric Mack
My great grandfather, Isaac Ehrlich, was born in Syoninnzea, Austria, in 1858, according to his British "Enemy Alien - Exemption from Internment" card, (However, his British death record indicates he was born c. 1864.) There is also some evidence he was born in what was occasionally the territory of Romania.
Does anybody recognize that town? Could it possibly be Tsynyava also known as Tsineva, Ukraine? Eric Mack, Jerusalem
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Shimona Kushner
My grandmother was born in the town of Romny (I think this is in the Sumy district). Her father, Abraham Gordon, was married to Minna (Miriam)--don't know her maiden name. Abraham owned a print shop in the town. He and Miriam had three daughters: Eda, Leah (Lyda), and Dorah. Leah married my grandfather, Shimon Soloveichik and they moved to Poltava. I think that Dorah also lived in Poltava after WWI. She married a man named Miron and had a daughter named Milla. I searched the Jewish Gen lists but came up with nothing. I assume that Abraham was born some time after the middle of the 19th century. Dorah and Milla perished in WWII (my mother told me they were killed by the Nazis but I have no further information. Can anyone give me any clues about how I can find information/documents about this branch of my family? Please respond to my private e mail: shimona@g.technion.ac.il
Shimona Yaroslavsky Kushner
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Re: Aaron Goetze (a.k.a. Aaron Adolphus) born in Berlin circa 1800--key witness in 1844 murder case
#germany
Rodney Eisfelder
Alex,
to supplement my previous response, the marriage of Aron Goetze, aged 26 and Bella Goldschmidt, aged 23, took place in Berlin in 1825. I think the date is 23-Jan. See: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS6S-DSW5-B?i=1655&cat=105476 familysearch.org have several different marriage registers for the Jewish community of Berlin, and the marriage you seek always seems to be in the last register you look at... I hope this helps, Rodney Eisfelder Melbourne, Australia
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Seeking translation of Hebrew on tombstone for Louis Wolf Rubin
#translation
Mary D. Taffet
I have attached a photo of the tombstone for my husband's
great-grandfather Louis Wolff Rubin, and am seeking a translation of the Hebrew on it. The tombstone itself lists the name as "Wolf L. Rubin", but he generally went by the name Louis Rubin. -- Thank you, Mary D. Taffet Syracuse, NY USA
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Seeking translation of Hebrew on tombstone for Jennie Rubin
#translation
Mary D. Taffet
I am seeking translation of the Hebrew on the tombstone for my husband's
great-grandmother Jennie Rubin; a photo is attached. -- Thank you, Mary D. Taffet Syracuse, NY USA
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Re: Please help me identify this lady. Taken in 1876 in New Orleans, I cannot understand her name and I'd appreciate any suggestions
#photographs
Helen Gardner
Noting the dot over what looks like an ï", I read it as Ma Gransma Mrs Oliver.
-- Helen Gardner ancestral names, all from Poland, mostly Warsaw AJGENGOLD/EIGENGOLD, BERCHOJER, BLANK, BIALOGORA, BLUMBERG, CHMIELNICKI, FELD, FERNEBOK/FERNSBUN, EDELMAN, FRYDMAN, GELDTRUNK, GURIN, ISSAKOWICH, LAKS, LERMAN, MALIS, MENDER/MONDER, MLYNARZ/MILLER, PODGORER/PODGORSKI, POPOWER, RAUTARBER/ROTGERBERG, RASTENBERG, POSSIBLY PRESSEIZEN
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Re: Aaron Goetze (a.k.a. Aaron Adolphus) born in Berlin circa 1800--key witness in 1844 murder case
#germany
Rodney Eisfelder
Alex,
There is a mention of someone with the name Aron Goetze in the book of Jewish citizens of Berlin (Die Judenbürgerbücher der Stadt Berlin 1809-1851), however, Googlebooks is not letting me view the relevant page today. Start from https://books.google.com/books?id=wQNJDbRcn4gC&redir_esc=y&hl=en and "search inside" You might also find him in some of familysearch.org's unindexed microfilms of the Jewish community of Berlin. I found part of a birth record of a child to Aron Goetze and Bella Goldschmidt at: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS6Q-HVC5?i=91&cat=105476 however the name of the child is on the left hand side of the register and the page number is near impossible to read, making it "challenging" to find the matching left hand side, but you could compare it with https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS6Q-HNNC?i=383&cat=105476 in which case the son was Abraham Goetze, born 7-Jan-1826. Following pages show a Philip Goetze, born 28-Aug-1828 to the same couple. Later years have some children born to a Goetz Goetze and Jette Steinthal who might be connected somehow, including another Aron Goetze, born in 1834, who I assume to be too young to be the person you seek. Note that this birth register is ordered firstly by the initial letter of the surname, then by the date. I hope this helps, Rodney Eisfelder Melbourne, Australia
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Yizkor Book Report for December 2021
#yizkorbooks
#JewishGenUpdates
lackerfeld@...
Shalom,
At the end of this year, as with any year, we tend to look back to see what we’ve accomplished over this time. While not wishing to inundate you with a load of statistics, I will note that in the Yizkor Book Project over 2021 we:
On the subject of completed projects, I am extremely pleased to let you know about two of these added in December.
The second book “Zelva Memorial Book” on Zelva, Belarus which was translated and generously donated to the Yizkor Book Project by Jacob Solomon Berger. In addition to this particular book and a number of other of his books that he has already provided, he recently supplied us with the complete translation of a number of other books. The first of these, “The Belica Memorial Book” on Belitsa, Belarus has been set up in the YB Project and translated sections will gradually be added to it over time.
The volunteer coordinators of the Yizkor book projects strive continuously to raise funds in order to achieve their dream of translating the Yizkor book for which they are responsible. Many ideas of encouraging people to financially support these projects have been raised over the years: Personal messages to people listed in the JewishGen Family Finder researching the community, setting up a dedicated Facebook page, writing to the relevant JewishGen discussion group and more. And now for details of what was carried out in December:
Yizkor Book updates · Augustów, Poland (Memorial Book of the Community of Augustow and Region) · Babi Yaar, Ukraine (Memory Book: Babi Yar) · Biała Podlaska, Poland (Book of Biala Podlaska) · Bilgoraj, Poland (Destruction of Bilgoraj) · Cieszanów, Poland (Memorial book of the martyred community Cieszanow) · Derechin, Belarus (The Dereczin Memorial Book) · Drogobych, Ukraine (Memorial to the Jews of Drohobycz, Boryslaw, and surroundings) · Dzyatlava, Belarus (A memorial to the Jewish community of Zhetl) · Edineţ, Moldova (Yad l'Yedinitz; memorial book for the Jewish community of Yedintzi, Bessarabia) · Hrubieszów, Poland (Memorial Book of Hrubieshov) · Krynki, Poland (Memorial Book of Krynki) · Kurów, Poland (Yiskor book in memoriam of our hometown Kurow) · Kutno, Poland (Kutno and Surroundings Book) · Kuty, Ukraine (Kitov my hometown: survivors of Kuty tell the story of their town) · Lviv, Ukraine (A memorial library of countries and communities, Poland Series: Lwow Volume) · Mahilyow, Belarus (25th Anniversary Book of the Moghileff Brotherhood) · Mińsk Mazowiecki, Poland (Memorial Book in Memory of the destroyed Jewish Community of Minsk-Mazowiecki) [French] · Mizoch, Ukraine (Memorial Book of Mizocz) · Mizoch, Ukraine (Memorial Book of Mizocz) [Ukranian] · Mlyniv, Ukraine (Mlynov-Muravica Memorial Book) · Piesk, Belarus (Piesk and Most, a Memorial Book) · Radom, Poland (The book of Radom) · Radomsko, Poland (Memorial book of the community of Radomsk and vicinity) · Sarny, Ukraine (Memorial Book of the Community of Sarny) · Shums'k, Ukraine (Szumsk, memorial book of the martyrs of Szumsk) · Sokołów Podlaski, Poland (Memorial Book Sokolow-Podlask) · Volkovysk, Belarus (Wolkovisker Yizkor Book) · Zamość, Poland (Pinkas Zamosc; in Memoriam) · Zawiercie, Poland (Yizkor Book of the Holy Community of Zawiercie and Environs) · Zelva, Belarus (Zelva Memorial Book) New book
New entries
New Yizkor Books in Print
In addition in December, two new Holocaust-related books were published:
If you are interested in purchasing any of these books or any of the others that have been made available, please go to the YBIP main page using the link shown below.
Important links Before ending this report, here are some important links to note:
All the best, Lance Ackerfeld Director of Special Projects - Yizkor Books JewishGen.org
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JGS Toronto. Free Virtual Meeting. Preserving the Past – Protecting the Future: Who Will Inherit My Family History Research? Sunday, 30 January 2022, at 10:30 a.m. ET.
#announcements
#jgs-iajgs
Jerry Scherer
JEWISH GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY OF TORONTO
Preserving the Past – Protecting the Future: Who Will Inherit My Family History Research?
Sunday, 30 January 2022, at 10:30 a.m. ET. VIRTUAL MEETING: Join from Home
Virtual doors open at 10:20 a.m. ET
The Program Committee of JGS Toronto regularly receives requests to organize a session entitled “Who will inherit my genealogy research?” As we age and discover that our children, grandchildren, nieces, and nephews do not display the same burning interest in our family tree, this becomes a key question.
In response we have assembled a panel of inspirational speakers, primarily from our membership, to talk about their “legacy” plans.
Henry Blumberg will outline how he has developed an interest among his sons and grandchildren through travel to ancestral towns, creating a website with their help, and visiting museums and Holocaust sites.
Henry Blumberg is a barrister in Toronto. He is on the Board of JGS Toronto, has served three terms as convener of the international Latvia SIG, and two terms on the Board of Governors of JewishGen. Henry has presented at twelve IAJGS Conferences and was a speaker in Riga at the “Names and Fates Project” in June 2008, as well as at International Conferences on “Jews in a Changing World” in 2011 and in 2014.
Adena and Harvey Glasner will talk about completing the Family History template that they received from their granddaughter (called “My Grandmother's Life"). They will talk about how they started this project of documenting their family histories for their children and grandchildren.
Harvey and Adena are long-time members of JGS Toronto, and were both very active in the 2011 production of the anthology, Tracing our Roots, Telling our Stories, to celebrate the 25th anniversary of JGS Toronto. Harvey is a former President of JGS Toronto, and Adena served as the Society’s Secretary for several years.
Jerry Scherer will outline how, on Fathers’ Day, 18 June 2017, he gave a PowerPoint presentation to his children and grandchildren about his parents’ Holocaust stories. Each of his children then received a book on his talk so that they would never forget the stories of their grandparents. Jerry will demonstrate a creative technique he used to update his book for future generations.
Hersz (Jerry) Scherer, son of Holocaust survivors, was born in Siberia, USSR. He and his parents spent three years in a displaced persons camp, housed in the former barracks of the Waffen-SS in Germany, before emigrating to Montreal in 1949. Jerry has conducted a vast amount of personal genealogical research, meeting with great success. He is an active Board member of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Toronto, currently serving as Vice-President, Communications.
Cyril Gryfe, a long-time JGS Toronto member, will talk about the website, populated with family stories, documents, and photographs, that he has created for his family.
In 1910, Sam Gryfe arrived on the shores of Canada from his hometown of Botosani, Romania. One hundred years later, more than 100 people from four generations of his family reunited to celebrate his life, and to meet and reconnect with long-lost family. Cyril played an instrumental role in connecting the family tree, which he posted at the reunion for all the relatives to see.
Les Kelman will talk about the Digital Scrapbooks that he has completed and is still working on.
Les is a former President of JGS Toronto, and is the current Program Coordinator, a role he has held for many years. Les sums up his genealogical journey with a birth history. His father was born in Ukraine, Les was born in Scotland, his children were born in Israel, and his grandchildren were born in Canada.
To register, please go to jgstoronto.ca/register
You will then receive an immediate acknowledgement plus the link to access the event on 30 January.
The presentation will be recorded. It will be available to JGS Toronto members in the “Members Only” section of the Society website a few days after the event. It will also be available to non-member registrants for one week after the event in the “Registration” location.
To our guests, consider joining our membership for only $40.00 per year by Clicking Here or consider a donation by Clicking Here to assist us in continuing our mission providing a forum for the exchange of genealogical knowledge and information. (Canadians receive a CRA tax receipt.)
Tel 647-247-6414 twitter: jgsoftoronto facebook: Jewish Genealogical Society of Toronto
Jerry Scherer Vice President, Communications
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