Re: Coincidence? #general


On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 06:18 AM, Yitschok Margareten wrote:
"In fact, the weekly portion of the Torah reading, is not the main thing of a Bar Mitzvah. The main thing of a Bar Mitzvah is being obligated by Jewish law to observe all Mitzvahs [commandments]."
Very true.  The actual bar mitzvah 'ceremony' is during the week when the boy first puts on tefillin for the first time and gets an aliyah (Monday, Thursday or Rosh Hodesh).
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Steve Goldberg
Jerusalem, Israel
Sagan/Shagan family from Veliuona (Velon), Lithuania
Goldberg family from Vidukle, Lithuania
Susselovitch/Zuselovitch family from Raseiniai (Rassein), Lithuania

Re: Coincidence? #general

Yitschok Margareten

A Bar Mitzvah is not related to the week the boy was born, it's actually the day he turns 13 according to the Hebrew calendar. 

The weekly portion of the Torah reading, is not according to the week he was born, but rather to the week he turns 13, which might be different that year than on the year he was born. 

In fact, the weekly portion of the Torah reading, is not the main thing of a Bar Mitzvah. The main thing of a Bar Mitzvah is being obligated by Jewish law to observe all Mitzvahs [commandments]. 

Yitschok Margareten

Re: Locating German Passports that were surrendered to the British in Eretz-Yisrael (Palestine) #germany #records

Moshe Berman

What was his name? I found my great-aunt’s Fremdenpass in her citizenship application on You may be able to find it there. 

Moshe Berman,
Boca Raton, FL

Berman, Lehrhaupt, Tropper, Gonter, Schroit, Rabinowitz, Gelb, Wejc, etc etc etc

Re: Webinar- Finding Your Polish Ancestors Online in the Polish State Archives #announcements #poland


Robert Hanna asked if Ted Gostin's webinar about using the Polish
State Archives websites (plural!) to do Polish genealogy would be
available to view afterwards. The Los Angeles Public Library has now
put it online at YouTube, free:

It's about an hour and half long, with some Q&A at the end.

A short summary:
Over forty million scans of old Polish records are now online,
including books for some areas that used to be in Poland but aren't
anymore. Many of them are hosted on the main "Szukaj w Archiwach"
("Search in Archives") website that supplanted/absorbed the old
Pradziad database. The search interface has some really annoying
quirks, and it is also tremendously slow when displaying images or
zooming into them, but the site also has tons of material that was
never microfilmed by FamilySearch and which isn't available anywhere
else. So it's absolutely worth learning about how to use the website
(warts and all) so that you can view the scans online for free, from

Sometimes the newest Polish record scans are only posted at the
smaller archives' individual branch websites and don't get sent up to
the main "Szukaj w Archiwach" website in a timely manner, so you need
to know how to check each of the small archive branch sites, too, and
Ted explains how to do that.

Finally, the Kuyavia and Pomerania area in north-central/northwestern
Poland has a unique and separate website with text-searchable surname
indexes of their records, just from two of the archive branches
(Bydgoszcz and Torun) so far. It also has some of its own very
annoying quirks in its search interface, and Ted explains how to work
around them to find records.

It's a really excellent talk, very in depth, and I highly recommend watching it.

- Brooke Schreier Ganz
Mill Valley, California

Looking for family TURTIETAUB #latinamerica

Boris Shapira

Looking for Turtelbaum, turkeltaub, TURTlETAUB lived in Argentina Ave Bandila 107 or 705 Buenos Aires
My grandfather name!
Boris Baruch Shapira Szapiro
Philadelphia - Tel Aviv

boris baruch shapira cwiren
Philadelphia usa
Tel aviv israel

Save the Date: Gesher Galicia Zoom Membership Meeting #announcements #education #events #galicia #poland

Steven Turner

Dear Friends,

We at Gesher Galicia want to stay engaged with our membership. In this regard, we are planning to have our second Zoom membership meeting on Sunday, February 6th at 12-1 PM EST (9-10 AM Pacific, 5-6 PM UK, 6-7 PM Central Europe, 7-8 PM Israel, 4-5 AM next day Australia). This seems to be the most convenient time for our membership across the world.

Please save the date and time to your calendar. Details will be provided soon in a subsequent email. 

We will have many members of our Board attending. There will be just a few short announcements but we will use the majority of the time for members to query the board on items of interest to them.

You will have to be a member to enter the meeting so please make sure your membership is up to date. Please log in to our website to check your membership status or to join click here.

We look forward to seeing you there.

Dr. Steven S. Turner
President, Gesher Galicia

Help needed finding maiden name. Married name SALIMAN #names #russia #usa

David Buford

My great grandparents were from somewhere in Russia and moved to Denver Colorado in the early 1890's. My G Grandfather Michael's last name was Saliman. His wife's name was Bessie or (Pelte). I have been trying to find out her maiden name. On my grandmother's death certificate, it said Segal was her mother's maiden name, but the more research I have done shows it may have been Schreiber. Someone on ancestry says that Bessie's father was Shalom Schreiber. Her brother was Morris Schreiber who had a son named Joseph. When I look at the 1910 census my G Grandparents lived on Clay St in Denver. There were others, a son and two different inlaw's that lived on Clay st. as well. There is also a Joseph Schreiber on the same street. This is speculation from what I am finding but I have no proof. I was just wondering if anyone out there knows for sure. Also on her gravestone it show's her father's first name was Ze'ev. Any help would be wonderful. Thanks.
Linda Gold Buford

Researching: Poland or other GOLD, BREWDA - BREVDA - , BLUMENTHAL, PALTER - also Israel, SPITZ
                      Kobryn, Belarus Belarus - KAMENETZKI - KAMIENKA
                      Russia - SALIMAN, SCHREIBER, SEGAL, WALDMANN

Re: Helene ALEXANDER, of Liegnitz #germany

Boris Shapira

Hi, I lived in Liegniz, in the jewish cemetery there are graves from 18 hundreds
Good luck
Boris Shapira
boris baruch shapira cwiren
Philadelphia usa
Tel aviv israel

Nazi Archive in Poland Sheds Light on Anti-Masonic History #poland #records

Jan Meisels Allen

Poland has a vast archive of items that shed light on the history

of Freemasonry in Europe JANEK SKARZYNSKI AFP


An old university library in western Poland—UAM in Poznan, is sheding light on works including women’s Masonic ledges and musical scores used in closed ceremonies.  There are 80,000 items dating from the 17th century to pre World War ll period. Fine prints, copies of speeches and membership lists of Masonic lodges in Germany and beyond feature in the archive. Some documents still bear Nazi stamps.


“Initially tolerated by the Nazis, Freemasons became the subject of regime conspiracy theories in the 1930s, seen as liberal intellectuals whose secretive circles could become centres of opposition.


Lodges were broken up and their members imprisoned and killed both in Germany and elsewhere as Nazi troops advanced during WWII.


The collection was put together under the orders of top Nazi henchman and SS chief Heinrich Himmler and is composed of many smaller archives from European Masonic lodges that were seized by the Nazis.”


During the war as Allied bombing intensified, the collection was moved from Germany for safekeeping and broken up into three parts -- two were taken to what is now Poland and one to the Czech Republic. The section left in the town of Slawa Slaska in Poland was seized by Polish authorities in 1945, while the others were taken by the Red Army.


In 1959, the Polish Masonic collection was formally established as an archive and curators began studying it -- at that time, Freemasonry was banned in the country under Communism.


The collection is open to researchers and other visitors.



Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Re: Painter J. Majzels Zamość #poland #general


Are you looking for anything in particular? Have you tried a library? We can't make recommendations if we don't know where you are in the world. The Google search engine produced many results, including this painting offered for sale by an online auction. Is that your interest?

Pat Weinthal

Re: Coincidence? #general


My maternal grandfather also didn't know his birthdate, but said it was during Pesach, so his kids designated April 15 as his birthday.  He really wasn't sure about the year either.  Whether that was because he supposedly lied about his age when he got off the boat at Ellis Island or some other reason is not clear.
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC

New Database: Altona (Hamburg), Germany Vital Records #JewishGenUpdates #germany #announcements #records

Michael Moritz

I am excited to report that I have completed indexing the FamilySearch film of Ashkenazi birth, marriage and death records recorded in Altona from the 1820s until 1874. While there are some years missing and others with illegible entries, this is a remarkably complete register documenting the storied community of Altona. In total, this database has over 4,000 entries and contains: 2,016 births, 656 marriages, and 1,397 deaths. Many entries also contain Hebrew names, which have also been transcribed and are searchable.

They can now be searched for free in JewishGen's GerSIG database at


Michael Moritz

Director, Romania Research Division [and contributor to the Germany Research Division!]


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Re: Webinar- Finding Your Polish Ancestors Online in the Polish State Archives #announcements #poland

Robert Hanna

Does anyone know if this will be available to view afterwards?

Robert Hanna


stanislawow #galicia

Boris Shapira

I am Boris Shapira Szapiro was born in Stanislawow (stanislavov) 1952.
Shapira on my fathers side (Jacob) turkeltaub or TURTlETAUB or Turtelbaum. And Cwiren (Zwiren) on my mothers side (klara) kenigzwald (father).
Looking for TURTlETAUB in Argentina
and Zwiren in Brooklyn NY.....

Re: Now online: Center for Jewish History's genealogy webinar on New York City historical photos #usa


Is there a way to access these videos without Facebook? Your Genealogy Coffee Break series look interesting. However, many of us do not have Facebook accounts nor want one.

Pat Weinthal,

(Russian and Ukraine) Vera Miller Posts About More Russian and Ukrainian Records Online #announcements #records #russia #ukraine

Jan Meisels Allen





Ver Miller’s Find Lost Russian and Ukrainian Family blog has posted about scanned records online from the Russian and Ukrainian Archives.  If you are not conversant in either language it is advisable to download a language translator such as Google translate or


On Vera’s blog she has a video guide on reading Russian records to catch the basic information. She also has a cheat sheet for reading Russian script.


To read her latest blog posting see:


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee






Help Please# #translation #lithuania


I must appologise in advance as I've been out of the loop for over 10 years. I came back to doing research following the release of the English 1921 Census and have now got hooked again on my family tree. Whilst going through old paperwork I found the attached documents which I ordered but never got translated. I beleive there are from what I think are my family in the 1876 Lithuanian Revision List. Any help in their translation would be very much appreciated. Many thanks in advance. Paul Walman

Researching Surnames:-
SENK, SANK - Plock, Plotkz

Re: Coincidence? #general


@ Banai Lynn Feldstein
"I heard a rabbi explain once, but I only recall some of the story. It was important to remember the yahrzeit, the anniversary of their death."
Quite true. But one also must know at least the week of birth of a male child, so as to celebrate his bar mitzvah at the correct time. A lot of boys were told (or they remembered from their bar mitzvah) that they were born during the week of the <whatever> weekly portion of the Torah.
Steve Goldberg
Jerusalem, Israel
Sagan/Shagan family from Veliuona (Velon), Lithuania
Goldberg family from Vidukle, Lithuania
Susselovitch/Zuselovitch family from Raseiniai (Rassein), Lithuania

Re: Birth Registry, Minsk - Yivo Archives #belarus #usa


Regarding the Minsk birth records found on the YIVO website, a number of people have asked for the link. It can be found in the folder titled "Minsk Jewish Community Council, 1825-1917". Here is the link:

There are a number of files that may be of interest to Minsk researchers. The birth records seem to be in both Cyrillic and Yiddish.

Tammy Weingarten

Spindler- Grondo #belarus #records #russia

Arthur Pronin

My great grandfather was Simon or Sam Spindler. Born in Grodno Poland 1888. I know his father- per death cert-was Alexander. Sam's mother was Rachel. Alexander never made it to USA-my family has said he "died young." Alex's wife Rachel remarried a name Kopitinick. Sam came to USA through Galveston in 1912-and settled in Kansas City. 

Sam had brother Yankel, a sister Sarah , a sister Mashke. Sam was raised by his grandmother Elke. 

Sam was married in Grodno in 1912 before leaving for America. His wife- Sarah Dovidovich (maiden)-came to USA via canada in 1914. Sarah born 1892.

Ive dug around looking for Alexander's parents. I see many Spindler recs on jewishgen Im almost certain some of these are their's-but I dont know best translations of what Alexander would be or even if...its something else? I see some Dovidovich's  as well -Sarah's parents were Frieda and Meyer. Hoping for some help here on Alex's parents...and possible recs on Sarah's parents...because Im stumped! 

Art Pronin

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