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Re: Galitsino Krasnodar, Russia
#russia
Sherri Bobish
Marilyn,
Do you mean this place? https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-2936262 Krasnodar [Rus, since 1920], Ekaterinodar [Rus, before 1920], YekaterinodarRegion: Russiahttps://www.yadvashem.org/untoldstories/database/index.asp?cid=1044 "Jews started to settle in Krasnodar (then Ekaterinodar) in the mid-19th century. They were mostly former solders of the tsarist army and they and their family members were allowed to live outside the Pale of Settlement." Good luck in your search,
Sherri Bobish
Searching: RATOWSKY / CHAIMSON (Ariogala / Ragola, Lith.) WALTZMAN / WALZMAN (Ustrzyki Dolne / Istryker, Pol.) LEVY (Tyrawa Woloska, Pol.) LEFFENFELD / LEFENFELD / FINK, KALTER (Daliowa/ Posada Jasliska, Pol.) BOJDA / BERGER (Tarnobrzeg, Pol.) SOKALSKY / SOLON / SOLAN / FINGER(MAN) (Grodek, Bialystok, Pol.) BOBISH / APPEL (Odessa?)
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Re: Who Betrayed Anne Frank and Her Family?
#holocaust
Stephen Katz
It's very difficult for one, over 75 years after the event, to judge actions taken in desperation under the conditions of those times. On the other hand, the suspected betrayer knew that the Franks would be sent to the camps and likely murdered. Under legal standards of today, if there were sufficient evidence to prove he was indeed the betrayer, he would likely face charges of murder, and it's an interesting question whether he could claim self-defense.
It's also interesting that Otto Frank never revealed the name that was sent to him anonymously. We can only speculate as to why. Incidentally, as noted by the lead investigator, the accumulated evedence against the prime suspect probably doesn't meet the high standard of proof needed for a criminal conviction. A final point: I found the 60 Minutes broadcast to be very superficial. Maybe the book is less so. Stephen Katz
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Help needed locating the town of Estricht
#austria-czech
#poland
#general
ERIC SHUEL
I am searching for information about a town - Estricht, that appears on a document addressed to my grandmother I have a document - Department of Commerce Bureau of Census dated 29 July, 1942, that was sent to my grandmother, Esther Leibowitz. (Nee Kanner) that lists information from the 1920 census. This document lists as Place of Birth for Esta (Esther) Kanner as Estricht. According to other family members, we believe Esther Kanner was born in Lezajsk or Lezajok. My grandmother said she is from Poland, but some records list Austria. I have not been able to locate this town - either what country it was in at the turn of the century, or the present location. I have tried various websites, such as the Jewish Gen Town Finder, but no luck. Any information would be greatly appreciated! Sincerely, Eric Shuel
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Re: How to obtain Lodz cemetery photo
#lodz
deborah.shindell@...
I have the same question about one of my relatives.
There is a website for the Lodz cemetery, that appears to have shown its photos via the Flash app Now that Flash is no longer a functioning app, that part of the website is broken when you try to click on the listing for a person. I would suspect that the .jpg image referred to is a current photo of the tombstone, but the website can no longer display these images properly. Someone related to the cemetery and its website should be able to find and email to you the pertinent .jpg photo. -- Deborah Shindell |
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Re: Who Betrayed Anne Frank and Her Family?
#holocaust
Irv Salit
This whole subject is quite difficult to confront. Of the millions of Jews under the Nazis, there were many good people and some not so. Many were forced to make horrible decisions that might have endangered others even in their own family (remember Sophie's Choice). However, none deserved to be killed or sent to the camps.
Irv Salit Toronto, ON irvsalit@...
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List of Rabbis in New York Area mid 1800's
#records
Jill Golden
My 2 great grandparents were married by Rabbi Samuel Micheals in New York City in 1886. I'm wondering if there is a way to determine what synagogue he was associated with. I have the marriage record and names and addresses of both the bride and groom. Thank you
Jill Golden
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Re: How to obtain Lodz cemetery photo
#lodz
Frank Szmulowicz
Thank you, Bernard. I have contacted the cemetery by e-mail and am awaiting their response. Thank you for explaining to me what I may expect as an answer.
I would be very happy to know that there is any vestige of the grave of any of my ancestors anywhere. Frank Szmulowicz
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Re: Who Betrayed Anne Frank and Her Family?
#holocaust
Bruce Drake
There is also a new book out recounting the same story that was just reviewed in the New York Times. I wouldn't be surprised if that's how 60 Minutes picked up on it. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/17/books/review-betrayal-anne-frank-investigation-rosemary-sullivan.html?searchResultPosition=1
Bruce Drake Silver Spring MD
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Re: familysearch.org letter/number Id.
#general
beltond@...
Yes, they are unique to the person they're assigned to. They are created by Family Search when a person is first entered into the database. They appear to be random.
-- David Belton Pennsylvania
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Re: How to obtain Lodz cemetery photo
#lodz
Bernard Flam
Hi from Paris,
Dear Franck, I am sorry to tell that perhaps you will not get a picture of Henryk's grave. Lodz' s ghetto was closed ca March / April 1940 and the cemetery was included in the ghetto boundaries. When persons died in the ghetto, as my GGF Abe Nusen Kronenberg, they were buried in what is called now "ghetto fields". As tombstones were no longer "available" during this period, graves were only marked with a small iron pole holding a plate for identification. Shortly after end of Shoah, these poles disappeared... Some originals can been seen in Yad Vashem, in room dedicated to Lodz ghetto. I attach a picture of a re-installation of these poles, but unfortunately not in real place of graves. The good news are Lodz's cemetery has been preserved till today and a large part is cleaned from vegetation years after years by volunteers : so former graves can be accessed, as I show with my own pictures. Khavershaft Bernard Flam Archives & history of Medem Center - Arbeter Ring of France families Zysman, Kronenberg, Rottersman of Lodz
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Searching Chilewitz
#lithuania
#latvia
#general
Julian Chilewitz
Shalom.
I'm looking for my History of my Families.
!) My mother Myriam Chilewitz (nee Gavshon) Mother my 1 Gran was Katie Rgosin.
Thanks to Paul Cheifitz for his great effort. Have got from 1780.
Her Father was Jack Aron Gavshon my 1 Grandfather. He was from LIthuania (Still searching)
2) My Father Leon Chilewitz as I knew him was from Latvia. He never spoke about his family, only some cousins in South Africa. The following (Cilevitz, Skuy, from one side & Lotkin.Baum & Horwitz from
the other side.
On his South African Naturalzation Papers His name was Leib Zilevitsch son of Jankel Chilewitz & Sare Horvitz (Latvin) Place of birth Rexzekne Latvia 19th June 1908.
Have found Photos (Yuddish on the back) of his Father, Mother, Sister Pesya (Pesia) & Brother Isaak (Aisek). Also the name Cilevics. Having trouble finding more.
Many thanks.
Julian Chilewitz
jchiewitz@...
dklaw2@....
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Re: Missing Shtetl and Location
#russia
mvayser@...
Paul,
Odessa was just a regional town, so the only places that could possibly be considered "Odessa shtetls" would be the surrounding villages and maybe nearby town of Mayaki. The rest of the places you identified are just various localities some many hundreds of kilometers away from Odessa all over modern day Ukraine that have no relationship to Odessa itself. Liubashevka, Savran, Ananyev were not even in the governorate as Odessa.
As far as the locality question about "Eredub, Krevozerz or Kervosa". The last 2 sound like a butchered version of Krivoe Zerkalo, a shtetl in the Balta uezd of the Podolia governorate, where there were massive pogroms in late 1919. https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-1043802. Perhaps, you can share some documents that have mentions of "Eredub" to see if someone can make sense of what it actually states. None of these are a thing either - Corinty, Polosky Gubernia, Kpielsogo Gubernia, Parlwick. Polosky Gubernia is likely Podolskaya gubernia (Podolia governorate in Russian).
JDC has a list of victims of the Civil War era pogroms that has 4 different Meyerovich families mentioned, perhaps, you can find familiar names:
http://search.archives.jdc.org/multimedia/Documents/NY_AR1921/00022/NY_AR1921_00297.pdf
#41, 82, 321, 380
Mike Vayser
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Michelle Sandler
Orange County CA JGS January Meeting
January 23 at 10:00 am (Pacific time zone) on Zoom Jeffrey Mark Paull: The Jewish surname process in the Russian Empire and its effect on Jewish genealogy The history of adopting, regulating, and using Jewish surnames in the Russian Empire is quite complex. There were many ways that Jewish surnames were created, assigned, or adopted, while tight restrictions were placed on changing or altering surnames. Everyone must register on the OCJGS website www.ocjgs.org. Members are free and $5 for nonmembers. Dues or the $5 fee can be paid on our website. Michelle Sandler MLS President OCJGS Vice President of Programming OCJGS Librarian OCJGS
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Re: Looking for family TURTIETAUB
#latinamerica
There were Turtletaubs in Charleston, SC, including Jacob, Samuel, and Max. I don't think any are alive today.
-- Alan Banov Kensington, MD legalrun@...
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Re: Webinar- Finding Your Polish Ancestors Online in the Polish State Archives
#announcements
#poland
I listened to the YouTube presentation by Ted Gostin and it was very
informative. It's a pity it can't remain longer than 24 hours. Ms Terry Ashton, Australia PRASHKER-Kalisz; SZUMOWSKI-Lomza; WAJNGOT-Poland; WIERZBOWICZ-Poland; GOLDMAN-Poland; SEGAL-SEGALOVITCH-Vilna; GOLTZ-Latvia
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Re: Samotins of Baku
#general
mvayser@...
There are 2 people buried at the Jewish cemetery in Baku with Yakhnovich (modern transliteration) last name, none with Samotin, but according to the web site https://evreyskoekladbishevbaku.com, their database is not complete.
Yakhnovich Elizaveta daughter of Abel: 1880 - 12 Sept 1951 Yakhnovich Rozaliya, daughter of Moysey: 26 Aug 1903 - 4 Dec 1990
Mike Vayser
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Königsberg (Hungary) Jake Jacobs Jan 11 #665306
#hungary
Marguerite D. Allen
My great grandmother's name was Sarolta Königsberg. She came from a long line of rabbis. The family came from the Szabolcs region. The family changed their name to Daróczy.
As a young man, my grandfather lived in Budapest with Josef Daróczy; Josef was studying law and later became a lawyer, and eventually a judge. My grandfather was Vilmos (Fisch) Huszar from Munkacs. He was studying romance languages and he became a professor of French, the editor of the Revue de Hongrie, and a diplomat for Austro-Hungary during the war.
Does this sound like a possible connection for you?
Marguerite
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Re: Looking for SCHMULOWITZ CHAIM
#usa
Michele Lock
I don't believe the archives in Koursk would have information on what became of this Chaim Schmulowitz once he arrived in America.
In the US, a man with the original first name of Chaim mostly likely took the first name Hyman, though possibly also Herman or Harry. Of course, he may have decided to call himself by any name, but the above three are the most likely. As for the surname Schmulowitz - He may have kept the name, and anglicized the spelling to something like Shmulovitz, or Smulovitz, or Smilovitz, or other similiar spellings. Of he may have anglicized the name even further into something like Samuels or Samuelson. I took a look at the ship manifest for this man, and can see that he is a butcher, and he is going to St. Louis, Missouri (not Minnesota, which is a different state). His friend H. Steinberg lives on 8th street in St. Louis. Perhaps you can find either man in the 1910 US census for St. Louis. Good luck. -- Michele Lock Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock and Kalon/Kolon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai, Lithuania Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock in Plunge/Telsiai in Lithuania Rabinowitz in Papile, Lithuania and Riga, Latvia Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman in Dotnuva, Lithuania Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland Lavine/Lev/Lew in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus
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JGSLI Virtual meeting on Sunday, January 30 at 2:00 PM Eastern – Meet Me At the Corner of Broome and Allen: Romaniote Jews in New York
#announcements
#education
We hope you will join us on Zoom for a presentation by Marcia Ikonomopoulos, Museum Director of Kehila Kedosha Janina in NYC.
Topic: Meet Me At the Corner of Broome and Allen: Romaniote Jews in New York Among the numerous distinguishing factors of Jewish communities, most based on geographical location, ancestral language, and levels of observance, one group, that of Romaniote Jews has, in many ways, become the orphan child of Jewish studies. This holds true in the field of genealogy. Romaniote Jews, Greek-speaking Jews who date their ancestry back to the inter-Temple period, have the distinction of the longest continuous presence in the European Diaspora. The naming practices of Romaniote Jews shed light on the history of Jewish surnames and, in addition, their distinctive customs. What can we learn from analyzing the naming practices of Romaniote Jews? What is applicable to the general study of Jewish naming practices and Jewish genealogy?
Marcia Haddad Ikonomopoulos has served as the Museum Director of Kehila Kedosha Janina since 2004 and sits on the Board of Trustees of the Synagogue and Museum. She also serves on the Board of Directors of the Lower East Side Preservation Initiative and is President of the Association of Friends of Greek Jewry. She was born into a traditional Sephardic Jewish family from Salonika and has devoted her life to telling the story of Greek Jewry as an author, translator, editor, and lecturer
To join our meeting:
When: Sunday, Jan 30, 2022 at 2:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZ0sd-GtrzojHNHHDCvFipAHpRfQMNKSQXXY
I look forward to seeing you all online!
Jeffrey Austin
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JGSLI Virtual meeting on Wednesday, January 19 at 7:00 PM Eastern – New-found JewishGen Ukraine Research Group Records: The Krakovsky Documents
#announcements
#education
#ukraine
This will be a Zoom Only meeting and open to everybody, but you must register in advance (see below). Wednesday, January 19th, 7:00 PM, via Zoom Topic: New-found JewishGen Ukraine Research Group Records: The Krakovsky Documents This will be a pre-recorded presentation from Gary Pokrassa and Joel Spector from last summer’s IAJGS conference. The lecture will describe in depth the translation and indexing project along with information on navigating Krakovsky's wiki page. Also, the utilization of the data and its preservation and availability on JewishGen will be discussed. Critical questions to considered are: a) Who is Alex Krakovsky and how did he get involved in his work? b) What obstacles is he facing? c) How to navigate the thousands of documents on his wiki pages? d) What is the JewishGen Ukraine Research Division Project and how does it relate to Krakovsky's work? e) How can the data be accessed on JewishGen? f) What is the status of the creation of a detailed town index?
Both Gary and Joel will be available after the presentation to provide the latest updates and answer any questions.
To join our meeting:
When: Jan 19, 2022 07:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZYodemgqjgvG9Ie1FN8qM5342D-4GEIU7sb
I look forward to seeing you all online! Jeffrey Austin President, JGS Long Island president@...
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