Re: Who Betrayed Anne Frank and Her Family? #holocaust

JoAnne Goldberg

The timing of this episode, airing the day after Colleyville, has
triggered my ever-present paranoia. Will the takeaway for the masses be
"Jews are their own worst enemies -- betraying and killing each other --
who cares about them?" (It didn't help that on Saturday, I heard early
speculation that the hostage-taker might be a disgruntled congregant.)

Interesting segment, but one that may stoke rising anti-Semitism.
JoAnne Goldberg - Menlo Park, California; GEDmatch M131535


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Re: Information on descendants of Schindler's List #poland #holocaust

Susan J. Gordon

I suggest that you try looking through the book, Schindler's Legacy, by Elinor J Brecher, (pub 1994), which contains chapters/stories about 30+ survivors, but Jakob Kornblau is not listed on the contents page where those in the book appear. However, he might be in one or more of the chapters/stories. Unfortunately, the book lacks an index, which is a serious flaw. Other than that, it's a good book, and probably available in libraries or for sale at Amazon....

Years ago, I heard Poldek Pfefferberg speak at a college in CA, and met him afterwards. He's not in this book, also, but he's the person who inspired Keneally to write Schindler's list.(PP owned a shoe store in Beverly Hills, where Keneally walked in, looking for shoes. When PP heard he was a writer, he said, "I've got a story for you!"  I wrote about our meeting for The Jewish Week of NY but it's not online. (If you'd like to read it, I can send you a copy).

Good luck!
Susan J Gordon
New York

Re: Who Betrayed Anne Frank and Her Family? #holocaust

Shelley Mitchell

The search results were not dispositive of the question. It was narrowed down but not proven. The person they fingered for disclosing the name was financially well off and had connections. A program like this should not be viewed as speaking for the dead. Some people are strong. Others are weak. We should not judge people for doing something to stay alive.  We have no idea how we would react in their shoes.

In the camps, some women slept with Nazis to stay alive. Just that act alone was enough for other Jewish women to treat these women like dirt. It is very easy to judge in a 2 dimensional world. Real life is much more complex. How far would you go to save yourself or a loved one?

Shelley Mitchell, NYC 

Family tree of Simona Yehudit LEVINGER (POCHOVITZ) #names # israel #names

Yonatan Ben-Ari

In my search for my family connection with the HURWITZ family
Novarudok, I found on ftjp a Simona Yehudit LEVINGER (POCHOVITZ) whom
I guess is named after her ancestor, Shimon HURWITZ of Petach Tikva,
Israel. Shimon had a daughter who married a POCHOVICH who I believe
eventually moved to Chicago, and as I have heard that both his
daughter and husband have passed away.

If anyone on this forum is a member of the above POCHOVITZ family and
has extensive knowledge of their family tree I would be happy to hear
from them.

My ABRAMOWITZ ancestors were also from Novarudok and left there (as
did the HURWITZs) in the latter part of the 19th century.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem

p.s. I have received several suggestion of doing a dna test which is
very hard to do in Israel for reasons I have written in the past

Re: How to obtain Lodz cemetery photo #lodz

Shelley Mitchell

When I wanted a copy of my great grandfather’s grave in Radautz, I was informed that the grave was intact but the Matzevah was destroyed. I hope you have better luck. 

Shelley Mitchell, NYC

Re: Galitsino Krasnodar, Russia #russia

Sherri Bobish


Do you mean this place?

Krasnodar [Rus, since 1920], Ekaterinodar [Rus, before 1920], Yekaterinodar

Region: Russia
"Jews started to settle in Krasnodar (then Ekaterinodar) in the mid-19th century. They were mostly former solders of the tsarist army and they and their family members were allowed to live outside the Pale of Settlement."

Good luck in your search,
Sherri Bobish

Searching: RATOWSKY / CHAIMSON (Ariogala / Ragola, Lith.)
WALTZMAN / WALZMAN (Ustrzyki Dolne / Istryker, Pol.)
LEVY (Tyrawa Woloska, Pol.)
LEFFENFELD / LEFENFELD / FINK, KALTER (Daliowa/ Posada Jasliska, Pol.)
BOJDA / BERGER (Tarnobrzeg, Pol.)
SOKALSKY / SOLON / SOLAN / FINGER(MAN) (Grodek, Bialystok, Pol.)
BOBISH / APPEL (Odessa?)

Re: Who Betrayed Anne Frank and Her Family? #holocaust

Stephen Katz

It's very difficult for one, over 75 years after the event, to judge actions taken in desperation under the conditions of those times. On the other hand, the suspected betrayer knew that the Franks would be sent to the camps and likely murdered. Under legal standards of today, if there were sufficient evidence to prove he was indeed the betrayer, he would likely face charges of murder, and it's an interesting question whether he could claim self-defense.
It's also interesting that Otto Frank never revealed the name that was sent to him anonymously. We can only speculate as to why.
Incidentally, as noted by the lead investigator, the accumulated evedence against the prime suspect probably doesn't meet the high standard of proof needed for a criminal conviction.
A final point: I found the 60 Minutes broadcast to be very superficial. Maybe the book is less so.
Stephen Katz

Help needed locating the town of Estricht #austria-czech #poland #general


I am searching for information about a town - Estricht, that appears on a document addressed to my grandmother

I have a document - Department of Commerce Bureau of Census dated 29 July, 1942, that was sent to my grandmother, Esther Leibowitz. (Nee Kanner) that lists information from the 1920 census.

This document lists as Place of Birth for Esta (Esther) Kanner as Estricht. 

According to other family members, we believe Esther Kanner was born in Lezajsk or Lezajok. My grandmother said she is from Poland, but some records list Austria.

I have not been able to locate this town - either what country it was in at the turn of the century, or the present location. I have tried various websites, such as the Jewish Gen Town Finder, but no luck.

Any information would be greatly appreciated!


Eric Shuel


Re: How to obtain Lodz cemetery photo #lodz


I have the same question about one of my relatives.
There is a website for the Lodz cemetery, that appears to have shown its photos via the Flash app
Now that Flash is no longer a functioning app, that part of the website is broken when you try to click on the listing for a person.
I would suspect that the .jpg image referred to is a current photo of the tombstone, but the website can no longer display these images properly.

Someone related to the cemetery and its website should be able to find and email to you the pertinent .jpg photo.

Deborah Shindell
Trumbull, CT
researching: Beserglik, Lederhendler, Goldberg (all in Poland) and Szmukler (Ukraine)

Re: Who Betrayed Anne Frank and Her Family? #holocaust

Irv Salit

This whole subject is quite difficult to confront. Of the millions of Jews under the Nazis, there were many good people and some not so. Many were forced to make horrible decisions that might have endangered others even in their own family (remember Sophie's Choice). However, none deserved to be killed or sent to the camps. 

Irv Salit
Toronto, ON

List of Rabbis in New York Area mid 1800's #records

Jill Golden

My 2 great grandparents were married by Rabbi Samuel Micheals in New York City in 1886. I'm wondering if there is a way to determine what synagogue he was associated with. I have the marriage record and names and addresses of both the bride and groom. Thank you

Jill Golden

Re: How to obtain Lodz cemetery photo #lodz

Frank Szmulowicz

Thank you, Bernard. I have contacted the cemetery by e-mail and am awaiting their response. Thank you for explaining to me what I may expect as an answer.
I would be very happy to know that there is any vestige of the grave of any of my ancestors anywhere.

Frank Szmulowicz

Re: Who Betrayed Anne Frank and Her Family? #holocaust

Bruce Drake

There is also a new book out recounting the same story that was just reviewed in the New York Times. I wouldn't be surprised if that's how 60 Minutes picked up on it.

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring MD

Re: letter/number Id. #general


Yes, they are unique to the person they're assigned to. They are created by Family Search when a person is first entered into the database. They appear to be random.
David Belton

Re: How to obtain Lodz cemetery photo #lodz

Bernard Flam

Hi from Paris,
Dear Franck,
I am sorry to tell that perhaps you will not get a picture of Henryk's grave.
Lodz' s ghetto was closed ca March / April 1940 and the cemetery was included in the ghetto boundaries.
When persons died in the ghetto, as my GGF Abe Nusen Kronenberg, they were buried in what is called now "ghetto fields".
As tombstones were no longer "available" during this period, graves were only marked with a small iron pole holding a plate for identification.
Shortly after end of Shoah, these poles disappeared...
Some originals can been seen in Yad Vashem, in room dedicated to Lodz ghetto.
I attach a picture of a re-installation of these poles, but unfortunately not in real place of graves.
The good news are Lodz's cemetery has been preserved till today and a large part is cleaned from vegetation years after years by volunteers : so former graves can be accessed, as I show with my own pictures.
Bernard Flam 
Archives & history of Medem Center - Arbeter Ring of France
families Zysman, Kronenberg, Rottersman of Lodz

Searching Chilewitz #lithuania #latvia #general

Julian Chilewitz

I'm looking for my History of my Families.
!)  My mother Myriam Chilewitz (nee Gavshon) Mother my 1 Gran was Katie Rgosin.
    Thanks to Paul Cheifitz for his great effort. Have got from 1780.
    Her Father was Jack Aron Gavshon my 1 Grandfather. He was from LIthuania (Still searching)
2) My Father Leon Chilewitz as I knew him was from Latvia. He never spoke about his family, only some      cousins in South Africa. The following (Cilevitz, Skuy, from one side & Lotkin.Baum & Horwitz from  
    the other side.
    On his South African Naturalzation Papers His name was Leib Zilevitsch son of Jankel Chilewitz &          Sare Horvitz (Latvin) Place of birth Rexzekne Latvia 19th June 1908.
    Have found Photos (Yuddish on the back) of his Father, Mother, Sister Pesya (Pesia) & Brother Isaak      (Aisek). Also the name Cilevics. Having trouble finding more.
    Many thanks.
    Julian Chilewitz





Re: Missing Shtetl and Location #russia


Odessa was just a regional town, so the only places that could possibly be considered "Odessa shtetls" would be the surrounding villages and maybe nearby town of Mayaki.  The rest of the places you identified are just various localities some many hundreds of kilometers away from Odessa all over modern day Ukraine that have no relationship to Odessa itself.  Liubashevka, Savran, Ananyev were not even in the governorate as Odessa.
As far as the locality question about "Eredub, Krevozerz or Kervosa".  The last 2 sound like a butchered version of Krivoe Zerkalo, a shtetl in the Balta uezd of the Podolia governorate, where there were massive pogroms in late 1919.  Perhaps, you can share some documents that have mentions of "Eredub" to see if someone can make sense of what it actually states.  None of these are a thing either - Corinty, Polosky Gubernia, Kpielsogo Gubernia, Parlwick.  Polosky Gubernia is likely Podolskaya gubernia (Podolia governorate in Russian).
JDC has a list of victims of the Civil War era pogroms that has 4 different Meyerovich families mentioned, perhaps, you can find familiar names:
#41, 82, 321, 380

Mike Vayser

Re: OCJGS January Meeting Next Sunday at 10:00 am Pacific Time #events #names #russia

Michelle Sandler

Orange County CA JGS January Meeting
January 23 at 10:00 am (Pacific time zone) on Zoom
Jeffrey Mark Paull: The Jewish surname process in the Russian Empire
and its effect on Jewish genealogy
The history of adopting, regulating, and using Jewish surnames in the
Russian Empire is quite complex. There were many ways that Jewish
surnames were created, assigned, or adopted, while tight restrictions
were placed on changing or altering surnames.

Everyone must register on the OCJGS website Members
are free and $5 for nonmembers. Dues or the $5 fee can be paid on our

Michelle Sandler MLS
President OCJGS
Vice President of Programming OCJGS
Librarian OCJGS

Re: Looking for family TURTIETAUB #latinamerica

Alan Banov

There were Turtletaubs in Charleston, SC, including Jacob, Samuel, and Max.  I don't think any are alive today.
Alan Banov
Kensington, MD

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