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Re: The London Gazette
#unitedkingdom
David Lewin
At 17:04 20/01/2022, Richard Stower wrote:
I have found a possible cousin-in-law, Olga https://www.thegazette.co.uk/ It is the "Official Pub;lic Record" organ in the UK https://www.thegazette.co.uk/about The Gazette is formally the combination of three publications: The London Gazette, The Belfast Gazette and The Edinburgh Gazette. The Gazettes are official journals of record. As a publication, The Gazette consists largely of statutory notices. This means that there is some legal requirement for the notice placer to advertise an event or proposal in The Gazette. [snip] David Lewin London
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With Only Iran Dissenting the United Nations Approves Israeli Resolution Condemning Denial and Distortion of the Holocaust #holocaust
#holocaust
Jan Meisels Allen
On January 20th, the United Nations adopted an Israeli resolution that condemns denial and distortion of the Holocaust. The resolution was co-sponsored by Germany and supported by the United States, Russia and others. The 193-member General Assembly adopted the resolution by consensus — meaning it was approved without a country-by-country vote. Only Iran, Israel’s most ardent adversary, objected.
Diplomats said it was only the second time since Israel’s founding that the General Assembly had adopted an Israeli-backed resolution. The first was in 2005, when a resolution on establishing International Holocaust Remembrance Day was approved.
The resolution expresses concern about “the growing prevalence of Holocaust denial or distortion through the use of information and communications technologies,” and urges all U.N. members to “reject without any reservation any denial or distortion of the Holocaust as a historical event, either in full or in part, or any activities to this end.”
To read more see: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/20/world/americas/united-nations-holocaust-resolution.html
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Leads on a 1921 Kesmarok Directory, or 1939-1940 confiscated assets from the Kesmarok area?
#slovakia
Alice Glasner
Hi everyone,
There was something called the “Chytil Directory” produced in 1921, that I understand included business information for Kesmarok Slovakia. Perhaps someone can shed light on whether such directories could be found for different years and for this and other regions. I’m wondering if this 1921 Kesmarok Directory can be browsed online.
Also, for Kesmarok and nearby villages, I would like to find a list of properties that were confiscated in 1939/1940. Does anyone know if such a list exists and if so, how I might be able to access it?
Thank you,
Alice Glasner
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Soroki uezd (county) Vital records
#bessarabia
#translation
Yefim Kogan
Hello Bessarabian researchers.
Here is a list of Soroki uezd (county) Vital Records (Births): 1883, 1893, 1895, 1897, 1898, 1902, 1904, 1905, 1913, 1914, 1915, 1916, 1917 and 1920. 1920 was written in Romanian. If anyone is interested to translate from Romanian, please let me know. The rest of records are written in Russian and some records are in Russian and Hebrew. Some of the collections for a year include records from Soroki and also from Jewish colonies around Soroki: Brichevo, Vertuzheny, Dombroveny, Lyublin, Markuleshty. If anyone is interested, please let me know. All the best, Yefim Kogan Bessarabia Group Leader and Coordinator
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Re: The little-known original article telling the Oskar Schindler story.
#holocaust
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In my post yesterday, I mentioned the publication of the little-known, first article about Oskar
Schindler by Canadian Broadcasting Company journalist, Hebert Steinhouse in the April 1994
Canadian "Saturday Night" magazine, and also indicated that it was attached and could be
downloaded. As the link for downloading was deleted, the article has now been uploaded to
the website of the Ostrów Mazowiecka Research Family website at:
https://www.ostrow-mazowiecka.com/Steinhouse-Herbert_Saturday-Night_1994-April_relevant%20pages%20only.pdf
The preface to the article has illuminating details of Steinhouse's introduction to the SchindlerJuden,
his initial intrigue and then skepticism to what they were telling him. The article also has many
photos of the 1949 reunion of 35 Schindlerjuden with Schindler, and a sidebar with Steinhouse's
description of “The First Reunion,” of the Schindlerjuden in which he wrote:
Stanley Diamond, M.S.M. (Montreal)
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A Free Presentation: Finding Family in Online Newspapers, by Janeen Bjork to take place on Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 1 p.m.
#events
#announcements
synhe@...
Hello All, The presentation will begin with a brief look at OCR (optical character recognition, the technology that allows printed pages to be digitized and searched online) and its limitations. There will be a case study, Janeen’s cousins-in-law, the Kuznitzes of Syracuse, Rochester, Linden, NJ, and Boca Raton, and the techniques she used to find them in dozens of newspaper items, despite spelling errors and the unreliability of OCR. You are invited to a Zoom meeting.
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entry no. vs. death certificate no.
#records
Trudy Barch
I am using FamilySearch and find death information about my great-uncle in Chicago. It gives an Entry number. Is that the same as a Death Certificate No.? Thank you for your explanation if this is the same or different information.
Trudy Barch, FLorida
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JewishGen Summer Fellowship: Applications Now Open!
#JewishGenUpdates
Avraham Groll
JewishGen is pleased to invite applications for our second JewishGen Future Scholars Fellowship program, to take place from July 5, 2022 – July 14, 2022. Graduate students, along with current third and fourth-year undergraduate students, are invited to apply. This immersive program, created in partnership with The Matzevah Foundation, and the Friends of Jewish Heritage in Poland, focuses on the role of Jewish cemeteries today in preserving the memory and legacy of former Jewish communities. Participants will help clean-up a cemetery, learn about symbols and epitaphs on tombstones, the general state of Jewish cemeteries in Poland after the Holocaust, efforts to preserve them from both a communal, political, and Halachic perspective, and what lessons can be gleaned to inform our own life choices today. On this 10-day journey, participants will tour many Jewish heritage sites including Warsaw and Lublin, spend an inspirational Shabbat in Krakow, visit Auschwitz/Birkenau, and then travel to Przysucha, Poland, where the group will participate in the clean-up and preservation of the Jewish cemetery in partnership with a Polish university student group. The trip will be led by highly experienced staff and participants will have an opportunity to learn from rabbis, scholars, dignitaries, and community leaders, who will offer first-hand insights regarding the imperative (and challenges) of cleaning-up cemeteries in accordance with Jewish law. They will address how local Polish communities view Jewish cemeteries in their towns, the need to preserve Jewish memory, and more. During the trip, Fellows will play a leadership role in working with the Polish university students (in collaboration with the Historical Institute of the University of Szczecin), and will have nightly reflection exercises. Upon returning home, each Fellow will record a video and write an essay describing his or her experience. These recordings/essays will be made available on the JewishGen website. This program is nearly fully subsidized, save for a $350 non-refundable registration fee (to be paid upon acceptance and commitment to the program). All other expenses will be completely covered by JewishGen (including r/t travel from NY, transportation in Poland, meals, lodging, materials, etc). Dietary laws will be observed.
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Re: The London Gazette
#unitedkingdom
Eva Lawrence
The London Gazette acts as a sort of official notice board of the
British Civil Service and the legal profession here. It publishes reports of Court cases, naturalisations, diplomatic appointments, royal honours lists, bankruptcies, official notices of the fighting forces, lists of ranking officers, but the contents have varied over time. Its archive is now freely available to search online. For its history, which goes back to the 18th century or earlier, I suggest you search Wikipedia. Eva Lawrence St Albans, UK. -- Eva Lawrence St Albans, UK.
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Re: List of Rabbis in New York Area mid 1800's
#records
Paul Chirlin
I do not think that Michaels is the Rabbi, he is a witness to the marriage. The name of the Rabbi is shown on the smaller form as Dr ????. That's the name you need to chase
paul chirlin florida
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Re: The London Gazette
#unitedkingdom
Michael Sharp
The London Gazette is the official journal for the publication of official government announcements, such as honours awarded by the monarch, medals for gallantry and for naturalisation certificates (i.e. the award of British citizenship)
-- Michael Sharp Manchester UK michael.sharp@...
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Re: Newman family in Mexico City
#usa
alejandro@...
I made contact with a person related to the Marcushamer´s and he provided the email of Mauricio Marcushamer: kidssmile@...
Alejandro Rubinstein
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Viewmate - Russian to english
#poland
#translation
benjamin.chynsky@...
Hi all, Thank you so much in advance. Hi all,
Thank you so much in advance.
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Re: Familysearch port of origin potential error (e.g. Boulogne Sur Mer in Argentina instead of France)
#general
#announcements
Marion Werle
You should be able to contact them, but it seems that their contact mechanisms have changed. Try emailing them at nasupport@.... They should be able to direct your general comment to the correct department or at least point you in the right direction to someone who can address the issue.
-- Marion Werle <canadagenes@...>
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Re: Who Betrayed Anne Frank and Her Family?
#holocaust
I am not planning to read the book, but I wonder if it goes into more
detail about the process. As shown in the segment, the approach was almost cavalier, with possible suspects dismissed because "he didn't say anything anti-Semitic" or "there's no evidence that Nazis living just a few feet away spotted the family in their hiding place." As pointed out in the articles, there is no reason to believe a list of Jewish addresses existed. If I'm going into hiding, I'm going to minimize the number of people who know, and keep it to a trusted and trustworthy few. The Franks weren't signing up for Meals on Wheels. I'm sure this six-year undertaking was expensive, and I understand the financial need for a dramatic reveal vs, say, the mail carrier ratted them out. But I agree that it's pretty reprehensible to identify a fellow Jew on flimsy circumstantial "well, he might have a way to turn them in" evidence when he has no one to speak on his behalf 80 years later. Do we know if other Jewish hiding places were similarly exposed? During the segment, there was a brief indication that the Nazis were familiar with the signs of a hiding place: the cabinets/bookcases/pantries with well-worn grooves on the floor. -- JoAnne Goldberg - Menlo Park, California; GEDmatch M131535
BLOCH, SEGAL, FRIDMAN, KAMINSKY, PLOTNIK/KIN -- LIthuania
GOLDSCHMIDT, HAMMERSCHLAG,HEILBRUNN, REIS(S), EDELMUTH, ROTHSCHILD, SPEI(Y)ER -- Hesse, Germany
COHEN, KAMP, HARFF, FLECK, FRÖHLICH, HAUSMANN, DANIEL -- Rhineland, Germany
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Passenger-list name interpretation
#names
David Brostoff
I have posted two images from a passenger list of the S.S. Zeeland, arriving in New York on Oct. 2, 1906. (The second image, ViewMate 96928, is for handwriting comparison.)
<https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM96927> I would be grateful to know the name of the passenger on line 30 of the first image. She is the sister of Frieda (Blacker) Brostoff on line 28. Thank you, David Brostoff
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Re: How to obtain Lodz cemetery photo
#lodz
Moishe Miller
Hello,
For those searching Lodz, there is also an excellent book that covers many names, dates and tombstone inscriptions from the earlier Lodz cemetery. Read about the early cemetery here: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stary_cmentarz_%C5%BCydowski_w_%C5%81odzi (if you open in Chrome, right click on the page to translate the WIKI to English). To see the actual book, all 256 pages, you can go to http://bc.wimbp.lodz.pl/Content/75562/Stary_Cmentarz_Zydowski_w_Lodzi_1938a.pdf If you find a page of interest, you can type the Polish or Hebrew into translate.google.com to understand the text. For instance, I wanted to understand the 5-line entry on page numbered 212, #673 (image 16 of 256). I typed it all into Google Translate #673. zamozny kupiec przedzy bawelniane przybyl do lodz
prawdopodobnie okolo 1850 r. z Czestochowy. W Lodz nalezal
Sand do grup maskilow, skupiajacych sie dookola zalozonego
przez Zajdemana domu modlilwy dla postepowcow. Z.
Zajdemanem (v. nr. 116) byl Zand skoligacony przez syna swego
Moryca, Z. (v. nr. 2195 i 853).
and Google translated # 673. a wealthy merchant of cotton yarn came to Łódź probably
around 1850 from Czestochowa. In Lodz, Sand belonged to a group
of maskils, gathered around the house founded by Zajdeman,
praying for the progressives. Z. Zajdeman (v. No. 116) was Zand
connected by his son Moryc, Z. (v. No. 2195 and 853).
Stay safe, -- Moishe Miller Brooklyn, NY moishe.miller@... JGFF #3391
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The London Gazette
#unitedkingdom
Richard Stower
I have found a possible cousin-in-law, Olga (Haves) Suchostawer, listed in the August 23, 1949 issue of The London Gazette. The page appears to list the names and occupations of refugees and/or displaced persons living in post-war London. Her husband, Sigmund, was murdered in the Holocaust.
Is there someone who knows the purpose of The London Gazette? Thank you. Richard Stower
Yarmouth, Maine
Researching Kolomyya: SECHESTOWER, SPIERMAN, THAU, BEISER, GRAFF.
Chortkiv/Budaniv: GROSS, FELLNER, HOCHMAN
Dobrowa Tarnowską: KANNER, SCHMIDT, WERNER
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Re: Who Betrayed Anne Frank and Her Family?
#holocaust
Historians bash ‘rubbish’ findings of investigation into Anne Frank betrayal |
Headline in web newspaper TIMES OF ISRAEL Big conclusions demand big proof,” historian Johannes Houwink ten Cate told The Times of Israel. “I cannot believe that a member of the Jewish Council traded addresses for freedom. After the Council was abolished, its members were sent to camps, if they did not go into hiding.” As professor emeritus of Holocaust studies at the University of Amsterdam, Houwink ten Cate spent decades researching the city under German occupation. According to the scholar, Van den Bergh was in hiding throughout most of 1944, including during the raid on the secret annex in early August. “Van den Bergh’s special status [of being protected as a council member and otherwise] had been withdrawn by the Nazis,” said Houwink ten Cate. “If he had betrayed the Frank family, he had to come out into the open, and that exactly was what he was trying to prevent.” From
GEOFFREY ISAAC COLLINS
HAIFA geoffic at gmail.com
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Familysearch port of origin potential error (e.g. Boulogne Sur Mer in Argentina instead of France)
#general
#announcements
kosfiszer8@...
I just noticed that for arrivals in the port of Montevideo, Uruguay the records in Familysearch (based on a book of passengers) showed Boulogne Sur Mer, in the province of Buenos Aires, Argentina, instead of Boulogne Sur Mer in France as the port of origin.
I also noticed similar issues with the port of Marseille in France. Familysearch allows the editing of the data on the individual record, but this seems to me to be a general problem that needs to be addressed at a higher level than a record. -- Angel KosfiszerRichardson, Texas
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