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Re: Town in Galicia
#galicia
That's surely a challenging one... Maybe the following link can (hopefully) be helpful in trying to decipher that (somewhat) Abbreviated location in Galicia. https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_towns_of_the_former_Kingdom_of_Galicia_and_Lodomeria Good Luck! :-D -- V/R, Brian D. Kerr, Esq SSG, U.S. Army (Retired) SSA, Brigade G1, U.S. Army (Retired)
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viewMate translation needed - Yiddish - family GOLD
#yiddish
#translation
#poland
David Buford
This is a postcard written in 1939 to my father from a relative I believe. My father's name was GOLD and it's from GILCHENSKII believe. I would love a translation. Thanks in advance.
https://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=97008 --Linda Gold Buford davidlinda@... Researching: Poland or other GOLD, BREWDA - BREVDA - BRAUDA , BLUMENTHAL, PALTER - SPITZ, GILCHENSKI Kobryn, Belarus Belarus - KAMENETZKI - KAMIENKA Russia - SALIMAN, SCHREIBER, SEGAL, WALDMANN Israel - PALTER
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Re: Riga - Latvia Holocaust website
#holocaust
#latvia
friedman.ron@...
In answer to the last question, this is what happened in Riga In November/December 1941. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumbula_massacre
My great grandmother was among those who were murdered there. Ronald Friedman Menlo Park, California
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Re: Tulchyn, Vinnytsia, Ukraine
#ukraine
Tammy Driver <110166tlj@...>
Further to my original posting. Sophia's grandson and I are both on fixed incomes, and can't afford to pay anyone to do research.
Thanks, Tammy Driver
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Amazing New Book from a Jewish Norwegian Medical Student Who Survived The Holocaust
#scandinavia
#holocaust
Robert Zavos
The book by Robert Savosnick (1915-1998) is titled I Did Not Want TO DIE - From Norway to Auschwitz It was initially released in the Norwegian language in 1986. The English version was just released by yadvashem.org. Their website has a summary of the story. Holocaust Remembrance Day is July 27 with Special TV Programs in the USA on Monday January 31 at 10pm (CBS?). Some international locations may show it on January 27.at 10pm.
Robert J Zavos Braden River, Florida
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Re: Book - list of Jewish military died 1ast WW
#germany
theresakoenigsknecht@...
I apologize, I thought I replied to this threat already but am learning how to use this forum.
Does anyone know if there are lists of Jewish veterans that served and not injuries or fatalities? Or is anyone familiar with the The Reich Federation of Jewish Front-Line Soldiers (Reichsbund jüdischer Frontsoldaten, RJF) and whether or not they have indexed accessible archives? Trying to find record of service for a someone from Grossenhain near Dresden. Many thanks in advance for suggestions or experiences you've had finding records that might be related.
-Theresa Koenigsknecht
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Re: Max Bruch. Who wrote the music for Kol Nidre was NOT Jewish
#general
Larry Gaum
Let me clarify so that there is no confusion.
Yes, Max Bruch wrote his classical piece Kol Nidre which was based on the Aramaic/Hebrew liturgical prayer Kol Nidre and it’s melody. However, it was based on the Ashkenazic version of the Kol Nidre, not the Sephardic. Bruch took the music and adapted it for musical instruments. He created a written musical score. Thanks to all who contributed to the discussion, in the group and privately. Larry Gaum Toronto
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Re: Max Bruch. Who wrote the music for Kol Nidre was NOT Jewish
#general
Larry Gaum
The Kol Nidre prayer, initially written in Aramaic was chanted centuries ago. It was not sung with the melody we are familiar with today in Ashkenazic synagogues. Sephardic synagogue chanting is completely different.
Larry Gaum
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Re: Subj: ViewMate translation request - Polish
#translation
Kris Murawski
This is a certificate issued by the Lwów midwifery school, dated July 15, 1882; stating that Mrs. Sara Goldfatb, born Arzt, age 50, from Jarosław, wife of a tinsmith, attended the Lwów midwifery school in the school year 1881/2 and has passed exams with safisfactory grades. Her conduct was appropriate.
-- Kris Murawski Raleigh, North Carolina krismurawski24@...
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Re: Tulchyn, Vinnytsia, Ukraine
#ukraine
On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 01:10 PM, Tammy Driver wrote:
Nadejda The Tuchyn revision records are pretty good. They have almost 3,500 records in them. I was able to find my family, and siblings etc through them. I would do a search on JewishGen just using the town name and Ukrain and look through the entirety of it. Sometimes spellings can change enough that you don't pick it up when you put in the name, but you find the hominin looking at the raw data. The other thing I would do is go to Family Search - which is the mormon site and look at the church records for Tuchyn that haven't been indexed. Sometimes the church records include Jewish families. But more importantly, if he's not Jewish but from there, his family might be in there.
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ViewMate translation request - Polish
#translation
Ofer Biran
This is a marriage record of Abram Feldman and Mnicha Lana Rotbaum. Appreciate translation of ALL names/ages/places.
In particular anything written on Szmul Warszniter that appear there (I suspect related to the bride's mother - Fraida). https://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=97081 Thanks !! Ofer Biran
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Re: Max Bruch. Who wrote the music for Kol Nidre was NOT Jewish
#general
Yossi Jalas
Hello Larry,
You can take it easy.... Max Bruch only composed a classical work for Cello based on the much older Ashkenazi Kol Nidrei melody. Where the original Ashkenazi melody actually originated from is a very sticky subject and I don't think there's any consensus. Yossi Jalas USA
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Re: Max Bruch. Who wrote the music for Kol Nidre was NOT Jewish
#general
Alan Cohen
Bruch didn't write the music for Kol Nidre. He wrote a piece of classical music based on the traditional music for Kol Nidre. Alan Cohen
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Re: Max Bruch. Who wrote the music for Kol Nidre was NOT Jewish
#general
Peter Lebensold
Careful: If word gets around that the song White Christmas was written by a Jew (son of a cantor, no less) and that at least one of the performers who sang the song in the finale of the film was also Jewish, there could be all sorts of confusion. Never mind Felix Mendelssohn! 😉 Peter Lebensold Toronto
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Re: Max Bruch. Who wrote the music for Kol Nidre was NOT Jewish
#general
Odeda Zlotnick
I think you may have got some garbled information...
Max Bruch composed his Adagio on 2 Hebrew Melodies for Cello and Orchestra with Harp based Kol Nidrei. No way he wrote the music "for" Kol Nidrei. The tune was sung in Ashkenazi communities centuries before Max Bruch was born. For those who'd like to hear it, here's a link to Bruch's composition as played by Mischa Maisky Bruch: Kol Nidrei ∙ hr-Sinfonieorchester ∙ Mischa Maisky ∙ Paavo Järvi - YouTube -- Odeda Zlotnick Jerusalem, Israel.
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Re: Max Bruch. Who wrote the music for Kol Nidre was NOT Jewish
#general
Susan Lauscher
As a cellist, your inquiry stood out for me. I've never seen any information about any Jewish ancestors. Here's what the ClassicFM website has to say:
Kol Nidrei, his warm and richly evocative work for cello and orchestra, was one of the first pieces he set about composing when he took up his post as Principal Conductor of the Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra. It was composed specifically for Liverpool’s Jewish community, taking as its inspiration two traditional Hebrew melodies. The first, heard at the outset, originates from the traditional Jewish service on the night of Yom Kippur; the second is an extract from a musical setting of the Byron poem ‘Those that Wept on Babel’s stream’.
A common misconception about Bruch is that he was a Jewish composer. He was in fact a Protestant Christian – but he was greatly inspired by Old Testament stories and by his own modern-day friendships with a number of prominent Jewish musicians. Susan Lauscher Northglenn, CO
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ViewMate translation request - Hungarian
#hungary
#translation
lmandlawitz@...
I've posted a vital record in Hungarian for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address: https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM97059. Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Many thanks. Lynda Mandlawitz
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Ketubah: The Jewish Marriage Contract and What It Really Says
#announcements
#events
Linda Kelley
The Jewish Genealogical Society of Oregon invites you to a free Zoom program:
Ketubah: The Jewish Marriage Contract and What It Really Says, with Steve Morse Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 10:30 a.m. Pacific Time Register in advance; space will be limited: https://us02web.zoom.us/ Linda Wolfe Kelley
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David Seldner
I agree with Fredel Fruhmann, looks like Hirsemann to me.
-- David Seldner, Karlsruhe, Germany seldner@...
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ViewMate Translation Request - Polish
#translation
Eleanor Mintz
Subj: ViewMate Translation Request - Polish
I've posted two vital records in Polish for which I need a translation. They are the front and back of my grandfather’s identity card. They can be found on ViewMate at the following addresses ... https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM97011 https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM97012 Please respond via the forms provided on the ViewMate image pages. Thank you very much. Eleanor Mintz
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