Krivazer-Krivoye Ozero Brick Wall #ukraine

Paul Mayerowitz

On, there is a list of the Jews who suffered during the pogroms in Krivoye Ozero.  It is also entitled “Krivoye Ozero: Jewish population 1920-1921.”  The list contains what appears to be ancestors of mine under the names of Meierovitch Itzko, Meierovitch Lippa, Melnitskaja Shifra, Meyerovtich Perel and Meyerovtich Zisia.  I have been unable to identify the source of this information as the schedule also lists the number of members in each family, This would be helpful in searching for the rest of my family and knowing which family members were killed in the pogroms.  My grandfather, Moishe ben Moishe, I was told, was named after his father who was killed during one of the earliest pogroms.  He emigrated to the United States in 1904.   The USC Shoah Foundation Survivor Interviews has testimony for a Lipa Mierovich from Polina Petrovna Korotkaia. The testimony identifies Lipa’s wife as Dvoira although his great granddaughter was told Lipa’s wife was Basha and second wife was Shifra Melnitskaja.  The testimony also included relatives Khana Mierovicj and Etia,  The Hebrew name Chana and Ethel appear regularly throughout the family.


There is a U.S. Social Security application for a Lipa Meyerovitch whose spouse is Dboria [Devorah?] and a child Shifra Melnitskaja . However, Ancestry offers no further clues on addresses, immigration or obituary that I could find.


Any suggestions on how to clarify and break through this brick wall.  Are there readily available resources online I should be additionally trying?  What am I missing?




Paul G. Mayerowitz

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately with family information

Searching for:

MORDKOVITCH, GOLDSTEIN, GOULD, GREEN (Nowy Dwor, Poland, London, England, New Jersey, USA);


REISFELD, REISFIELD, REISS ( Ukraine, New Brunswick, New Jersey, USA)


BRAUNER (Poland, Montevideo, Uruguay)

KANNER(Lemburg, Austria)

BREITEL( Lemburg, Austria)

ANAPOL (Jersey City,New Jerseey, USA, Russia)



Kiev Gubernia Duma Voters Lists #ukraine

Harry Moatz

JewishGen has a database for the Kiev Gubernia Duma Voters List for 1906 and 1907.  JewishGen explains that JewishGen Ukraine SIG acquired copies of the voter lists, though all were not complete, and how they proceeded to transliterate the names from Cyrillic to English.  The lists appeared in the newspaper Kievskie Gubernskie Vedomostie in 1906 and 1907.  However, JewishGen does not address, and I have been unable to ascertain whether and where digitized copies of the newspaper lists are accessible.  Have the original newspapers/lists been digitized and are they available on the internet or elsewhere?  
Harry Moatz
Potomac, MD, USA

BRODESKY - Berdichev
GOLDMAN / PASNIKOW - Hadiach or Gadyach
KESSLER - Pruzhany
KLAUBER - Sambir or Sambor
SCHWARTZ / SCHWARZ / SZWARZ - Monasterzyska and Stanislawow
TEITELBAUM - Yazloweic or Yazlovets
WARECK and MEYER / MEER - Dembitz or Debica

Re: Has anyone found useful results from this newspaper resource? #general


Two more points to make about Chronicling America:

The digitized newspapers in the collection were paid for only with federal funding.  Many states have digitized additional newspapers with funding from other sources, but those will not appear on Chronicling America.  For that reason, those states have usually created their own online newspaper sites, which host both the federally funded images and those paid for through other sources.  So if you find a state in Chronicling America, search to see if that state also has its own site with more newspapers.

Besides the online digitized historical newspapers, which of course we all like to find, the truly great resource on Chronicling America is the list of newspapers that have been published in the United States.

You can search this database by location, timeframe, title, ethnicity, and more.

While most of these have not been digitized, finding out that a newspaper was published in your city/town and that physical or micofilmed copies of the newspaper exist means that you can try to gain access to those offline and still continue your research.  Remember, not everything is online!  The latest estimate I read said that only about 15% of records (of all sorts) that genealogists use have been digitized and are available online.  That makes 85% that you need to look for offline.  And newspapers are treasure troves of information.

Janice M. Sellers
Gresham, Oregon
GORODETSKY Podolia and Kishinev, Russia; SCHNEIDERMAN Podolia, Russia
MECKLER/MEKLER Kamenets-Litovsk, Russia; NOWICKI/NOVITSKY Porozovo, Russia
OBERSTEIN, Grodno, Russia
ORLOVSKY, Bachmach and Glukhov, Russia

On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 2:49 PM <jbonline1111@...> wrote:
> Scrolling through my local public library's online resources today, I found a newspaper resource from the Library of Congress, called Chronicling America.
> I only did one search as a trial, but it seems to be a useful resource for newspapers from 1777 through 1963.

Everything turns out all right in the end. If it's not all right, it's not the end.

Jewish Genealogical Society of Montreal - Family Tree Workshop with Tool Time – April 10 #events #canada

Andreas Schwab

Our next FAMILY TREE WORKSHOP, hosted by genealogy guru Stanley Diamond, will be held on Sunday, April 10 from 10 am to noon.

The workshop will feature another TOOL TIME mini-lesson, with our IAJGS award-winning webmaster Gary Perlman, this time demonstrating how to use Canadian Jewish newspapers to further your research. 

The Zoom workshop, where you can ask your own question, will be limited to 25 people. The Zoom link and other details required for live participation will be sent exclusively to our Workshop Email List: write to workshop@.... 

Alternately, you can watch a live stream of the workshop at:

We also plan to post a recording of the workshop at the same link on our You Tube channel for future viewing.

We make our workshops available to members and non-members alike. If you find them useful, please consider becoming a member of JGS-Montreal to help us continue our work. 


Visit our web site at

Andreas Schwab, Montreal, Canada

Re: Questions re putting family tree on genealogy websites #general

Sarah L Meyer

First it depends - It may be possible on some of the sites.  Secondly as far as privacy is concerned - all of the major genealogy sites do NOT show any information for LIVING people unless you invite them to your tree or site.  Furthermore most identity theft occurs due to breaches - and not due to genealogy - genealogy is a scapegoat.  Now I do have a TNG site and once I got it set up, all I need to do is to upload a new gedcom - and I just did that last night.  You can require passwords for family if you want to share information on living people - I chose not to require passwords but only to include names of living people (no data) and to make people private upon request).  This is my balancing act between having cousins connect and absolute privacy - such as excluding all living people from your tree).  My link is below.
Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania

Re: Hebrew name in English #names

Sarah L Meyer

My Zeidi's middle name was Tzvi which is Hebrew for deer.  However I only saw that on one document, otherwise he used Hersh (which is Yiddish for deer).  Our son's name is Isaac Zvi and his Hebrew name is Yitzchak Zvi named for my Zeidi.  
Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania

Re: Citizenship status on census sheets #records

David Oseas

Prior to the passage of the Cable Act (1922), women derived their citizenship status through their husband, so there would not be a separate naturalization for your grandmother.

David Oseas

Now online: Genealogy Coffee Break webinar on Nazi-looted books and artifacts #events

Moriah Amit

In case you missed it, you may now view the recording of our most recent episode of Genealogy Coffee Break here. In this episode, we explore the papers of Col. Seymour J. Pomrenze (one of the Monuments Men) at the American Jewish Historical Society, and illustrate how this collection and others like it may be relevant for genealogists.
Moriah Amit
Senior Genealogy Librarian, Center for Jewish History
New York, NY

Pre-Shabbos Gesher Galicia News Update from Ukraine Friday March 11th #galicia #general #ukraine #poland

Steven Turner

1. Mykhailo (Misha) Zubar, Gesher Galicia's representative in Ukraine, has written to us today.

Vinnytsia, 14:15 Vinnytsia time [12:15 GMT/UTC, March 11]

As our new life in Vinnytsia gradually settles into a more stable routine, we have realized that we will not be able to return home for at least quite some time. I have managed to establish contact with my Polish colleagues who had collaborated on assistance to Ukrainian museums. Now I am collecting information about the primary needs of our museum, the National Shevchenko Museum in Kyiv, and sending it to my colleagues in Poland. In addition, other museum employees who were able to leave Kyiv have been able to update the social media pages of the museum.

In Kyiv itself, from all the reports I have had, it has been relatively quiet for several days. Only distant explosions have been heard and the air defense system is operating. For two days now there has been a constant evacuation of local residents from the suburbs of Kyiv, which were destroyed by Russian troops. There, as I wrote in my previous report, some people had spent more than a week in basements without water or food. Several of my friends, after a week in such an existence, have now fortunately managed to escape from the suburbs and find their way to Vinnytsia.

This morning, as you will have heard, rocket attacks were launched on Ivano-Frankivsk, Lutsk, and Dnipro. This has brought home to people that no matter where you are, you are still in danger while there is a war going on. I have friends and colleagues in both Ivano-Frankivsk and Dnipro. They were all well today when I wrote to them asking about their safety, and they texted me about the situation.

The most tragic situation of all at the moment is unfolding in Mariupol, on the coast of the Sea of Azov. The city had been desperately defending for almost two weeks against constant shelling. Recently, Russian troops bombed a maternity hospital there. A real humanitarian catastrophe is taking place in Mariupol. For two weeks I haven't been able to contact my students. I don't know if they are alive, but I want to believe and hope so. The city, which in recent years had become a “showcase” for the Ukrainian Donbass, has now been wiped off the face of the earth. Let me now tell you more about Mariupol and how I came to be connected so closely with this city.

A few years ago, the authorities in Mariupol decided to create a new urban cultural center with a permanent exhibition following a modern-style narrative. At the time, along with some colleagues from Poland, I was one of the main consultants for the creation of this center. We selected six students who worked on the ground to set up this project, and were in constant contact with them. From time to time I went to Mariupol, in the hope that when this museum was finished, all these students would work in it and help run it. It is terribly painful for me to think that everything we had been working on for four years is now in ashes, having been destroyed by the invading army. And the most painful thing of all is that I don't know what has happened with the students and my other friends in this city.

You asked if I had some photos to send. No one dares to take pictures because the Ukrainian army has asked people not to take photos and not to publish them in the public domain.

(end of message)

2. Gesher Galicia had written to Olesia Stefanyk - director of the Central State Historical Archives in Ukraine in Lviv (TsDIAL), and an archival advisor to Gesher Galicia - telling her that we were encouraging support for the appeal to protect the archive, launched by the academic team at the Jagiellonian University. We had also told her that Gesher Galicia as an organization had made a donation to this appeal.

Olesia Stefanyk replied (Lviv, March 11) as follows:

"Thank you very much for not deserting us in these difficult times. Your help is timely and important for the archive.

Good wishes to you and your colleagues, for health and well-being.

Thank you for everything!

To Victory!"

3. Report today from Igor Perriman the secular head of the Ivano-Frankivsk Jewish community. Igor and Rabbi Kolesnik have already helped 563 refugees out of the Tempel Synagogue with supplies purchased with aid sent by Gesher Galicia’s emergency appeal. (Photos of that were posted in a prior post.) He said there is much talk of saboteurs and provocateurs in the area. The community has arranged for “armed organized night guards” for protection of all the goods they have bought and the synagogue. The situation is very tense, especially with the Russian attack on the I-F airport today.

A Gut Shabbos

And a Shabbat Shalom to all.

Let’s hope that it is a peaceful one.

Steven Turner
President, Gesher Galicia

Re: Has anyone found useful results from this newspaper resource? #general


Marion Werle said "You mentioned that you found it at your public library, but it is web based and accessible from home."  True, but there is a link from my public library online to the Library of Congress. That is how I found the site.  I'm so happy to learn that others have been using it. That makes me wonder whether JewishGen has a list of such resources somewhere that I haven't noticed.
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC

Re: Questions re putting family tree on genealogy websites #general


In addition to all the possible issues others have mentioned, I have found that it is very easy to find living and deceased people through various online search apps, some of which are free.  I try to take my name off these when I see it, but they use public records and can load it again.  I even found my grandfather (twice) on an app purporting to memorialize the deceased. Both versions had erroneous information about him. He died more than 40 years ago.  I never use my mother's maiden name for anything.  It's very unique and it's easy enough to find.  I have my family information on JewishGen, but nowhere else, at least, not uploaded by me. 
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC

Surname Questions and History #lithuania


Hello Everyone,

I'm researching my great-grandfather's line and have questions regarding his surname.  Family stories have always maintained that the real family surname was Miklishansky.

Recently I found what I believe to be is his ship manifest with the Miklishansky name, as well as other documentation.  I believe he was from Lithuania, and have found records for a concentration of the surname in or near Trakai, Lithuania and some in Vilnius, Lithuania.  Does anyone know anything - a history, general knowledge, etc. - about this surname?  Was this an unusual surname? etc.

I look forward to your replies.  Thanks!
Amy Mitchell

Translation Help with Birth Record #lithuania #records


Hi All,

Can anyone translate the attached birth record?  It is in Cyrillic.  Row 432.  thanks in advance! 
Amy Mitchell

Researching DAAR family Galicia,Debica,Tarnow #galicia


I am searching for information regarding my father’s family, DAAR in Debica and Tarnow and surrounding locations.
I would appreciate any response.
Poland, Galicia

Rosalie Kornblau

My Family: I Could Write a Book: How Writing Helps You Learn About Your Family in New and Novel Ways #announcements #events #education

Marguerite Kealey

Sunday March 13, 2022

1-3 pm PT

Zoom Meeting

My Family: I Could Write a Book:

How Writing Helps You Learn About Your Family in New and Novel Ways

by Joan Adler


It’s not what you know,,,,,or how much you know,

but what you do with it that’s important.

When Joan Adler started writing articles about the people she had been researching, it became apparent how much she didn’t know about them. Writing about these people became a valuable tool, at least as important, as her search for documents and vital records. This talk was created to illustrate possible answers to these questions; answers that may seem surprising.

 Joan Adler thinks of her work as “social history.” Placing the details of people's lives into context: learning about the times in which they lived, the political, social, and economic conditions that affected their daily interactions, and how they chose to deal with these factors   She was hired in 1990, to retrieve  the Straus’ family papers from R. H. Macy’s & Co., a firm the family had owned for 100 years. She wound up with more than 100,000 pieces of paper that had to be read, organized, translated, and transcribed. This began the Straus Family Project. She started writing a family newsletter in 1993. It contains articles about the history of the family, about living members of the family and about events such as family reunions. Past issues of the newletter can be found at her                                                               

In order to register for the presentations, go to our website Welcome to the San Diego Jewish Genealogy Website ( and follow the registration directions.                
 This is a free event for members 
Non-members: We ask for a small donation ($5) –

Marguerite Kealey
San Diego Jewish Genealogical Society, Publicity Chair
San Diego County, CA


Re: Help translating Hebrew headstone for KAMIENKA #translation

David Buford

I am totally confused, below is a picture of my thru lines in ancestry and it said her fathers name was 
Shmuel Velvet Kameinka, yet everyone is saying differently especially last name of Traystman. She was married to Nathan Traystman.


Linda Gold Buford

                      Kobryn, Belarus Belarus - KAMENETZKI - KAMIENKA
                      Russia - SALIMAN, SCHREIBER, SEGAL, WALDMANN
                      Israel - PALTER

Citizenship status on census sheets #records

Richard Stower

My paternal grandmother, Chana Ester (nee Spierman) (Seche)Stower arrived in New York City in 1906 from Kolomyya, now Ukraine. She married my grandfather, Gustave (Seche)Stower in 1908. On the  census forms it is noted that my grandmother was a naturalized citizen. I cannot locate any petition or certificate of naturalization for her although I can for my grandfather.

When talking to the census taker was the person obligated to show a naturalization petition or certificate or did they merely self-declare their status?

Thank you.

Richard Stower
Yarmouth, Maine
Dobrowa Tarnowską: KANNER, SCHMIDT, WERNER

This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #yizkorbooks #poland #JewishGenUpdates

Bruce Drake

"We are commanded to get drunk on Purim so we can't be too pious!"
The joyous — sometimes raucous — holiday of Purim begins Wednesday and this week’s Yizkor book offerings celebrate the occasion.
The first and longest chapter is “Purim in Town” from the book of Jaroslaw (Poland). “As if under a magic wand, the city changed its normal appearance” when the day came. The streets filled with costumed and dancing people, with the greatest applause going to Achashverosh (the king of Persia) and Queen Esther, the savior of the Jews after the king was nearly tricked by his evil adviser Haman to put them to death. Local businessmen would lay out festive tables in their homes with food and drink and groups of men would burst in to perform a skit and down several cups of whiskey. The day after, “More than one person had his bones aching, others developed a bad cold, and the greatest number of the young performers was so hoarse that no one could hear their voices.”
Then we go to Radzyn (Poland) for Purim in “The Rabbi’s Court,” where once a year, the solemnity of the place suddenly disappeared. The acting and love songs performed to recall the holiday’s story “are not kosher all year round for pious Jews' ears, even for the Tzadik (spiritual leader) himself.” And all “know that only on Purim night can they loosen the reins and allow the body to taste earthly pleasures. Tomorrow total holiness will reign again in the court.”
The last stop is “Purim in Papa,” from the Yizkor book of that town in Hungary, a short item that is good for a chuckle.

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, MD

Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel

Re: Hebrew name in English #names

Peter Cohen

People named Tsvi often went by "Harry".  (Tsvi = Hirsh [Hebrew/Yiddish]) and since Hirsch began with an H it often became Harry or Herman. But Chaim could also become Herman, although it usually became Hyman. There are no fixed rules on what English name people chose.
Peter Cohen

Re: Questions re putting family tree on genealogy websites #general

JoAnne Goldberg

I want to make an observation given the direction this thread has taken.

If you do not post your tree, thinking that this way you are protecting
your family's privacy, that's an illusion.

Using Ancestry -- no dark web required! -- I can find almost anyone's
date of birth, birthplace, mother's birth name, high school/college, and
addresses within a couple of minutes.  That information is readily
available via public records, yet even in 2022, banks and the like are
asking for that information to verify someone's identity. It's a joke.

My family tree is public, and the information there was mostly derived
from official documents I found online! If the tree helps someone else
do research, or allows me to make a connection with a distant relative
(it has) so much the better.

All that said, the threat of scammers is real. I never answer the phone
unless I know who is calling me, I don't click on links/attachments in
email, and I ask lots of questions.

JoAnne Goldberg - Menlo Park, California; GEDmatch M131535


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