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Re: Obtaining birth certificate from Lask, Lodz, Poland #lodz #poland

deborah.shindell@...
 

The Metryki.Genbaza website has records online for Lask.
I looked at the births for 1892 (the first part of the 1892 file) and I found at the end of the year a record for a Jacob Aron, but I believe it was for a different last name.
The record can be seen here: https://metryki.genbaza.pl/genbaza,detail,278651,32
in the top left of the image (Akta 119).
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Deborah Shindell
Trumbull, CT
deborah.shindell@...
researching: Beserglik, Lederhendler, Goldberg (all in Poland) and Szmukler (Ukraine)


Re: Louisiana Jews in the American Civil War; looking for specific source or general info #usa

agenet@...
 

The above suggestions are all very good. In addition, we at,Touro Synagogue, New Orleans, do history tours of our facility, though we don't emphasize the Civil War. We are the oldest chartered congregation outside of the original 13 colonies and the 6th oldest chartered congregation in the US.

If you wish to schedule a tour, check out our website, tourosynagogue.com.
--
Adrien Gernsbacher Genet


Re: Translation request - German #translation

Ines Klein
 

Hello June,
regarding Baruch Schönfeld I found this link https://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/13300-schonfeld-baruch
Göding is now Hodonin, you can find it in the Town Finder at JewishGen. Rohatiz I guess is today Rohatec nead Hodonin.
regards
Ines Klein


Re: Riverside Cemetery - Saddle Brook, NJ #usa #general

aweitzman.ret@...
 

Hi Sherry,

If this is not a big rush, Riverside Cemetery is like 15 minutes from my house and I would be happy to go there and take some photos for you if you could send me the location information or information I can give to the office to locate the grave(s).

No charge. My gift to you for your help in the past.

Allen
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Allen Weitzman
Fair Lawn, NJ


Re: Kovany, Russia #russia

Sherri Bobish
 

John,

Another possibility for Kovany could be:

https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-1040546

Kabany [Rus, until 1934], Kaganovichi Vtoryye [Rus, 1934-57], Dibrova [Ukr], Kahanovychi Druhi

Region: Kiev

 
Also, you might try searching for naturalization papers for the grandparents. That may give you additional information.

Good luck in your search,

Sherri Bobish

Searching:
RATOWSKY / CHAIMSON (Ariogala, Lith.)
LEFFENFELD / FINK / KALTER (Daliowa & Jasliska, Pol.)
BOJDA / BLEIWEISS (Tarnow & Tarnobrzeg, Pol.)
WALTZMAN / WALZMAN (Ustrzyki Dolne, Pol.)
LEVY (Tyrawa Woloska, Pol.)
SOLON / SOLAN / SOKOLSKY (Grodek, Bialystok, Pol.)
BOBISH / BLUMENKRANZ / APPEL (Odessa?)


Re: Translation request - German #translation

Ruth
 

Goding is now called Hodonin and is in the south Moravian district of the Czech Republic.  There is a small settlement nearby called Rohatec which is probably Rohatiz.

Ruth Bloomfield
London


Re: Riverside Cemetery - Saddle Brook, NJ #usa #general

Peter Cohen
 

Depending on how long ago Ina had her interaction with Riverside Cemetery, they may not require that anymore. Virtually everyone has a phone in their pocket that can take a picture which is easily emailed.
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Peter Cohen
California


Re: How to find UKRAINE birth and marriage records #ukraine #records #russia

Janet Furba
 

Ask the Volyn State Archive
E-mail: archive_volyn@...
Janet Furba,
Germany


People using maternal surname instead of father's name #names

Molly Staub
 

[Sorry, I can't locate the question sent about why people would use a maternal surname instead of father's surname (vision problems):]

During my three decades of researching family history, I discovered two separate branches where this occurred. I asked why, and was told the recorder hated his/her father and wouldn't use his name. They instead chose to use a maternal grandmother's surname.
Hope this helps,

Molly Arost Staub
Boca Raton, FL

Researching
BERENSON
GROFFMAN
in Ukraine and London

and
AROST/KHAROST
SHTOFMAN
in Bessarabia, Moldova


Re: Need help in Locating Manifest for Aron Gordon #records

Raina Accardi
 

If you browse the passenger lists by date the St. Louis did arrive in NY on 19 Feb 1905. However, it sailed from Southhampton, not Liverpool. There is an Arie Zackin age 30 carpenter from Minsk. A few people above him are Scolnik, which is the surname of one of the witnesses on his NA papers. He was going to his brother Moische Zackin 329 Jackman st. Brooklyn.
Others of interest were Joseph Gordonovitz 19 painter from Vilna and sister Bashe going to brother Philip/Wolf 95 Christie st. NYC, and Aron Abramovitz 21 and brother Sam going to brother Mendel at 283 E 4th st NYC, but their last residence was Manchester, and were confectioners.
There could be others that fit the bill. You need to look page by page. It helps to know his family and friends, and where they lived, to confirm if you have the right person. The ship that arrived on the same day that was from Liverpool was the Campania. You could look through that one as well. 
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Raina Accardi 
Saugerties, NY
RAgenealogy@...
Poland: GEVIRTZMAN in Kobylin; JESINOWITZ/YESNOWITZ in Mszczonów; FELSENSTEIN in Parysów.
Belarus: GUTTWOCH/GOODMAN and ZISSERMAN in Volchin; BUSHMITZ in Vysokaye.
Ukraine: TRAUB and JANOVSKY in Kolki, Sofievka, Radomysl, and Zhytomyr; WEISMAN or ROSENBERG.


Judy Silverman
 

I've posted a photograph with a Polish inscription for which I'd like a translation. It's on ViewMate at the following address:

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM98064

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much.

Judy Zimmerman Silverman
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
jsilverm@...


Re: Louisiana Jews in the American Civil War; looking for specific source or general info #usa

Tina Isaacs
 

I went to Google Scholar and there were a few interesting possibilities:

Rosen, Robert N. The Jewish Confederates. Univ of South Carolina Press, 2021.
Rockoff, Stuart. "Carpetbaggers, jacklegs, and bolting republicans: Jews in Reconstruction politics in ascension parish, Louisiana." American Jewish History 97.1 (2013): 39-64.
Dinnerstein, Leonard. "The Business of Jews in Louisiana, 1840–1875. By Elliott Ashkenazi. University: University of Alabama Press, 1988. 

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Tina Isaacs
London, England


Re: Louisiana Jews in the American Civil War; looking for specific source or general info #usa

R Jaffer
 

While researching my husband's family from Richmond, VA, I used Fold3 to obtain Confederate records such as lists of materials one ancestor sold for uniforms to various states as well as thread for hospitals. I also found letters requesting such things as time off to go home for Passover and payment for a horse that was shot from under the cavalry soldier. I can't remember if I searched for records for distant cousins who lived in Louisiana. I searched Fold3 using computers at the National Archive branch in Massachusetts.

Roberta Jaffer
Massachusetts


Re: Need help in Locating Manifest for Aron Gordon #records

Feige Stern
 

Hi Ann,

I did a little hunting for you on ancestry and found an Aron Gorsman who was detained, arriving on 1/24/05 on the St. Louis to NY.  I'm not sure if it is him and you might want to go back and see if you can find him in the earlier pages of the manifest.  I ran out of time.

I also checked the 3/20/05 arrival of the St. Louis into NY.

I recommend using the card catalogue on ancestry to pull up the ship records and paging through to see if you can find him.  The naturalization record you posted gives a date but the St. Louis did not come to NY on that date.  So I looked at the Morton Allan directory to find out what dates the St. Louis did arrive into NY.
In 1905 those are listed as:
1/22/05
3/20/05
4/16/05
5/14/05
6/10/05
7/8/05
8/12/05
9/9/05
10/7/05
11/5/05
12/3/05
When you enter the dates, sometimes you have to adjust them a day or two later.  

It's a tedious process but sometimes that's what you need to do.

Good luck,

Feige Kauvar Stern
Cleveland, OH


ViewMate translation needed - Yiddish - family GOLD #translation

David Buford
 

I would love a translation - the most important is all names (relationships if known), places, births, marriages, deaths
and any other interesting facts. Thanking you in advance.

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM98068

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM98069
--
Linda Gold Buford
davidlinda@...

Researching: Poland or other GOLD, BREWDA - BREVDA - BRAUDA , BLUMENTHAL, PALTER - SPITZ, GILCHENSKI
                      Kobryn, Belarus Belarus - KAMENETZKI - KAMIENKA
                      Russia - SALIMAN, SCHREIBER, SEGAL, WALDMANN
                      Israel - PALTER


Ivano Frankivsk #records

Hannah Sperber
 

Are there any marriage records for this city, Previously Standards.
Hannah Sperber 
naturefan33@...


Re: Abramovich's Sephardic genealogy #sephardic

David Mendoza
 

So, the purpose of the report was to stand up for genealogical standards and to protect the Jewish reputation in Portugal. Before the Sephardic Genealogical Society intervened, there was no voice in the Portuguese media saying that Jews believe in ethical behaviour. The impression given in much of the Portuguese media was that Jews were abusing the offer of nationality for financial gain. This feeds into the worst type of antisemitic stereotype.

 

The scandal in Portugal is about genealogy, but those involved are not genealogists. It is worth commenting that for years the overwhelmingly Ashkenazi world of Jewish genealogy has been fed narratives about Sephardim that are – politely stated - not always genealogically proven.

 

Kevin’s critique rather misses the point, but let’s address it anyway. As genealogists we work to standards and rely on evidence. The standards supported were stated at the beginning of the report. Kevin names a handful of individuals and implies: (a) they are the tip of an iceberg; (b) we can take unevidenced claims about Sephardim in eastern Europe on trust; and (c) an individual being somewhere a few hundred years ago suggests they remained and had progeny.

 

(a) We have literally millions of pages of evidence. Sephardic genealogy faces the opposite problem to Ashkenazi in that we are overwhelmed with information. Why do Dotar (dowry), Despachos (emigration) and other communal records reference Sephardim all over the world, but not eastern Europe? The obvious assumption is because there weren’t community members there. We can see Dutch trade with eastern Europe, but where are the Sephardim? We have a few referenced individuals at various times, especially in the German Hanse port of Danzig, but that’s it. Just did a quick search of the early modern Amsterdam notarial archives: zero mentions of Poznan under different spellings, 11 of Danzig under different spellings, 263 of Angola and 120 of Barbados under single spellings. Sephardic trade was largely through family networks. If Western Sephardim went to eastern Europe it would presumably be for trade, so why weren’t they trading? It is the dog that didn’t bark.

 

(b) There is a wall of unevidenced claims including virtually every Western Sephardic Jew believed or reported to have been active in eastern Europe. It is a short list. The key family with respect to Chabad is PORTUGAL/PORTUGALER. Small problem: there never was a Sephardic PORTUGAL family of which I am aware!!! So who are they? Maybe they were Sephardim who abandoned their name for some reason. Fine. What is the evidence? In fairness to Kevin, Beider who is the authority, hypothesises the family were Sephardic. A hypothesis is not evidence. 

 

(c) If there is ONE properly referenced genealogy connecting a Sephardic Jew from 17th Century Hamburg to an Ashkenazi family in 20th Century eastern Europe, then I would be fascinated to see it. People are free to take unevidenced assertions on trust, but that is not genealogy.

 

I did not trouble to read khazaria.com as I assumed it to be antisemitic and/or barking mad.

 

I am not a geneticist. Obviously members of Sephardic genealogy groups knows the game: “I have 2% Iberian/Mediterranean/North African/etc DNA THEREFORE my family fled the Inquisition”. No. If you are making genealogical claims then you need to provide proof. Saying that members of two populations share genes does not allow extrapolation to a preferred explanation. We need reasoned evidence. Also “Sephardic DNA” is a bit of myth. My own Y-DNA, for example, is bog-standard Iberian. The Avotaynu DNA Project are doing excellent work on this.

 

Kevin discusses his connections with the Jewish Federation of New Mexico and the Porto community. One has now ended its Sephardic involvement, is being sued in the United States and possibly investigated by the police in Spain. The Rabbi of the other was arrested while trying to leave the country. These are perhaps not the best points of reference.

 

If Kevin’s beliefs are correct, they would re-write Jewish history. Alternatively, they may be nuts. I suggest he tries to get published in peer-reviewed academic publications. Am happy to discuss properly evidenced family trees compliant with genealogical standards, but not special pleading. Obviously my main concern is that people who have made legitimate applications for Portuguese citizenship should not suffer due to the actions of others, and that there should not be an antisemitic backlash in Portugal.

 

Best wishes,

 

David Mendoza


Re: Louisiana Jews in the American Civil War; looking for specific source or general info #usa

Eva Lawrence
 

Carol Mills-Nichol's book
Louisiana's Jewish Immigrants from the Bas-Rhin, Alsace, France l
Janaway Publishing,  California, 2014
gives lists by family name and forename  with details of the immigrants' origin, and also of their later lives. Just dipping in, I found several Civil war veterans.
--
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.


Re: Kovany, Russia #russia

Denise Fletcher
 

Hi John

Maybe it’s Kovary?  n and r in handwriting could look very similar:

http://www.maplandia.com/russia/pskovskaya-oblast/kuninskiy-rayon/kovary/

Good luck with the research.

Best,
Denise Fletcher, Sydney Australia 


Re: Need help in Locating Manifest for Aron Gordon #records

Odeda Zlotnick
 

Please check the file you uploaded as it appears here in your message, after you uploaded it.
It looks totally illegible to me -- can you read it when you click on the image in your message?
Petitions contain birth information, and travel information - about the ship on which the person arrived.  Minsk it totally inland in Belarus, no oceangoing ship would travel from there to the US. 
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Odeda Zlotnick
Jerusalem, Israel.

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