Re: Help with translating a document? #translation


There are 5 records on the page you posted. Which one do you want translated?
Steve Goldberg
Jerusalem, Israel
Sagan/Shagan family from Veliuona (Velon), Lithuania
Goldberg family from Vidukle, Lithuania
Susselovitch/Zuselovitch family from Raseiniai (Rassein), Lithuania

Minsk Archives in Belarus ? #belarus #records


Hi - I would like to contact the Minsk Archives in Belarus so I may obtain genealogical records of my ancestors. I know exactly what files to ask for them to search within.

It appears that their website is down......
May I assume that due to the regional conflict (Russia's war on the Ukraine) this has led to Belarus taking down its own archive's site? I probably can't transfer them my $1.50 fee either..(maybe next decade?)

* please message me back personally - this groups system does not send messages when someone responds to a post.

Brianna Knoppow
Washington DC (from Michigan)


Re: Need info about JRI-Poland #poland #general

Robinn Magid


Dear Friends:

In reply to Jeffrey Gee's question about JRI-Poland membership and access, I want to first thank Jeffrey and all researchers who are supporting JRI-Poland by becoming annual members and express my apologies to Jeffrey for his not receiving a timely response from us. It’s been a long week and we’ve handled dozens of questions – Jeffrey, I’m sorry yours was missed.

As we hope you understand - we have recently joined our sister groups (Litvak SIG and Gesher Galicia) in instituting a membership program, to raise the funds needed for the basic operations of JRI-Poland including routine cloud, accounting, and auditing expenses which have grown as we have grown.

Membership is only one of the three ways JRI-Poland raises funds, and these are explained in the following article which can be found on our website at::

As Jeremy Lichtman correctly points out in a reply to Jeffrey Gee (thank you, Jeremy), JRI-Poland does not restrict access to online information based upon membership. However, not all JRI-Poland information is online because it is still being developed, has not been paid for through fundraising, or because it's formatting is not easily integrated or searchable on our Legacy Search System. Jeremy also correctly points out that many records are not linked to because they are not yet available online at their archival source - OR - we have not had the volunteers needed to continue the linking as new batches of links appear on the Internet. None of this has anything to do with membership and never will.

While membership has some benefits, it is mostly Tzadakah, and is therefore, tax-deductible for most US taxpayers as a charitable contribution precisely because you receive no tangible benefit from your membership donation.

Now, to entice people who might not otherwise become members, we are in the middle of developing three generalized benefits which are not yet available. I repeat, they are in development and are not yet available.  hese upcoming benefits include:

1) A Members Only “dashboard” to allow members to review their bookmarked towns, projects and records saved from searches in ways that non-members will not be able to when this feature is introduced.

2) A Members Only menu option - called “Surname Explorer.”  At this early stage it will be a tool for townleaders and active members only. This feature will allow members to search for their surname themselves in our surname index of online and offline projects and see how many times that surname appears in specific projects. As this has not been done before, we can only offer the data as we collect it and it will develop over time but will provide members instant answers compared to the current process of contacting townleaders.

3) Downloading of pre-1826 Spreadsheets - We will be experimenting with allowing members only to download the spreadsheets of our pre-1826 projects through each associated town card on our website. This data is highly variable in detail and does not integrate well into the Legacy System, so it has been largely unavailable to the public before now. We expect to eventually develop special search features in our NextGen system to better accommodate this early data, but we would like to provide it as soon as possible to our loyal members.

Again, these features are slated for development in 2022 and therefore are not yet available.

We thank you for your patronage of and know you will continue to find meaning and value from helping us continue our important mission as annually renewing members.

Our 175 volunteers around the world give selflessly and tirelessly to help other researchers wherever they may be. Membership is one of the ways you can show your appreciation and help us pay for our independent servers and required systems. 

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Warm wishes for Chag Pesach Sameach!

Robinn Magid
Berkeley, California
Assistant Director,

Re: Deaths during Spanish flu epidemic #usa

David Oseas

No need to go through the trouble of requesting from the Doris website.  This certificate can be viewed on FamilySearch from a Family History Center.   Manhattan death certificate #30594 is found on FHL 1322434 (DGS 4005758):

David Oseas

HYMAN/HEYMAN/HEIMOWITS/CHAJMOVITS: Zemplen-Dobra, Hungary > New York;  KLEIN: Satoraljaujhely (Ujhely), Hungary > New York > Los Angeles
Hungary > New York;  OSEAS/OSIAS/OSIASI/OZIAS: Iasi, Romania > Chicago > Milwaukee > Los Angeles
SCHECHTER/SHEKTER: Kishinev, Bessarabia > New York;  SHERMAN: Iasi, Romania > New York > Los Angeles
STRUL:  Iasi, Romania > Haifa, Israel;  WICHMAN: Syczkowo (Bobruisk), Belarus > Milwaukee > Los Angeles

Translation needed: Russian to English #translation #russia


Hi Siggers,
  Here is a short Letter in Russian for which I would appreciate a translation into English.
Thank you,
Larry Bassist

Re: Peer Reviewed Journals For Jewish Genetic Genealogy? #education #dna #general

Jill Golden

While this is not peer reviewed or particularly Jewish, it is a very interesting book about DNA testing and using applying the results to your DNA matches. It is written in a very readable way with some fascinating stories to carry you along through the dry stuff. I enjoyed it and learned a lot. The Lost Family, How DNA Testing Is Upending Who We Are, by Libby Copeland. Abrams Press. 
Jill Golden
COHN/KAGEN Lithuania
SACHS/ZACHS Lithuania 
SIMPSON Lithuania 

Re: Women profession in vital records. #general

Philip Freidenreich

I recommend the book by my wife Professor Emerita Harriet Pass Freidenreich entitled Female, Jewish, Educated, The Lives of Central European University Women, published by Indiana University Press.


Philip Freidenreich
Yardley, PA

Re: Women profession in vital records. #general

Eva Lawrence

My mother trained as a chemical laboratory assistant in Germany in1918.  Sh ekept a series of testimonial letters  from the companies she worked for in the period until she married in 1932. Mostly she found herself doing secretarial work rather than anything scientific, and as soon as she married, she stopped working, So she probably appeared in very few records and always had low status,  but did work outside the home as a single woman. Her unmarried sister was a secretary and book-keepr all her life  -she too worked outside the home. ...So basically, married middle-class women rarely did, unmarried women  often had to work outside the hoee......
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.

Re: Deaths during Spanish flu epidemic #usa


The 1915 NY state census gives Adolph Koladinker and family at 410 E9th St Manhattan.  Adolph's wife aged 44 is called Anna. 

Her daughter marries under the name Rose Cohen from 410 E 9th St (Cert 4643 Manhattan 1920 .  She says her mother is Ella Perlman.

Look at the E9th St address in the 1920 census.  NY Manhattan Assembly District 8 ED615 image 23/26 (at FamilySearch

Line 5 has Adolph Kahn 54 (From Odessa) and wife Sarah 51 (from Pinsk). She immigrated in '06.   By the way, the lines above have Morris and his family including daughter Ella aged 1 3/12,   She would have been born around September 1918.   Morris's marriage in 1914 has his mother as Elka.

If this Sarah is a 2nd wife then there one might expect a marriage.  There is one:  certificate 3126 Manhattan 1919 shows the marriage of Juda Koladenker and Riwe Kaminsky.  They are both 50 and widowed.  He is living at 410 E9th St.  It also gives his parents as Chaim and Ziwie Braverman.

So  Adolph's wife died between 1915 and 1919 and was called Anna, Elka or Ella and her surname variously probably starts with a K (or maybe a C).  So a range of wild card searches with K?l?d* and C?l?d* across different databases eventually came up with cert no 30594 Manhattan 1918 for Annie Kaledeuks of 410 E9th St on Familysearch. She is the daughter of Abraham Perelman and Rebecca Wedowas. The address and maiden name are consistent.  On Ancestry and at ItalianGen this entry is indexed as "Kaledeux".   

This certificate is not yet on the Doris website.  You should be able to obtain a hardcopy  from Doris

By the way, there is a 1921 manifest for Doba Kalodenker and daughter Beila (SS Finland 24 Mar 1921 at NY) who is going to her husband Chaim Kolodenker at 410 E9th St NY.  It looks as though he arrives on the Amerika from Hamburg aged 33 on 13 Sep 1913 to his uncle Idel Kolodenker (Adolf) at 410 E9th St.   Chaim is coming from Tulczin.  This is now  Tul'chyn, Ukraine.   Hyman's first papers (as Hyman Cohen, arriving as Kolodenka) were submitted in 1941 - he was remarried and living at 221 Division St NY. 

The USC Shoah archive (search Kolodenker at Jewishgen) has a number of survivor interviews relating to Tulczin Kolodenkers.  

Paul Hattori
London UK

Re: Peer Reviewed Journals For Jewish Genetic Genealogy? #education #dna #general

YY Bond

At they have a full range of articles about Genetic Genealogy and Jewish Genetic Genealogy (and all subjects really).  They are from a variety of publications (some peer- reviewed). And  you can get articles about the subjects you are interested in sent to you. 
Yechezkel Bund, Jerusalem, Israel

Help with translating a document? #translation


Hello all,
I've posted a vital record in Russian and in Hebrew for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address:  
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.
Nathaniel Chang-Deutsch,
Minneapolis, MN

Re: Women profession in vital records. #general

Eva Lawrence

In the period between WW1 and WW2, keeping house was far more time-consuming than it is today because so many labour-saving devices we have now just didn't exist.. So few married women in Western Europe  had a profession. In fact most professions  in England, for instance did not permit married women to go on working, so professional women were usually unmarried and wouldn't be so much of interest, perhaps, to a genealogist. A middle-class man was expected to earn enough to keep his wife and children. Most even had some domestic help - a cleaner, or a washing-woman once a week.
So married working-class women did work  more often,  in that sort of  part-time job or by doing piece work at home,. A lot of their work was still on the domestic front, sewing, cooking,, keeping shop. 
Families chose to educate their boys rather than their girls . Men always had a higher status. - and higher education cost money.  no free education for children  over 14  until after 1945,  unless you were clever enough to win a scholarship. My experience is  of England,  and  I think the situation was even worse for women in mainland Europe. The Russian revolution improved matters in that country, I believe,  but here my experience is as limited as yours.
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.

Re: Trying to Find Potential Jewish Ancestors #germany

Dorann Cafaro

Hi Nettie
I have been researching my Jewish roots for awhile now but I only had 1/4 of my grandparents that was 100% Jewish so I too have very low DNA amounts. One of my most successful methods has been  on where I joined a project for the town my ggg jewish family was from, then uploaded my tree and DNA. As I get DNA matches I go to research and put in that person’s name or a key name in their tree and ask "how you are related". I have added a great deal of information this way. Good luck.
Dorann J Cafaro
#dna #germany #poland
researching Grauer, Dray, Marcus, May

Re: Seeking Info on Philadelphia Bank Immigrant Passage Records,1890-1949 #records #usa

Mark Halpern


Indices of all the Immigrant Banks in Philadelphia including the Blitzstein Bank were indexed many years ago by the Jewish Genealogical and Archival Society of Greater Philadelphia and can be searched in the JewishGen USA Database The index information will be needed to find the image of that record. 

The actual records are held by the Temple University Library Special Collections. They have digitized these records. Blitzstein images can be found via their M.L. Blitzstein and Co. webpage at

All Immigrant Bank records and webpages can be found on the Steamship Ticket Purchase Ledgers webpage at

Mark Halpern

On 2022-04-10 2:53 pm, Eric Ellman wrote:


According to Ancestry, there is a record of a possible family match for Itte Sosonwsky; Account open place, Philadelphia; Blitzstein Bank, Book 5; Pg. 92.

Since more information is not available online, does anyone know where I can get a copy of this record?

Kol tuv,


Eric J. Ellman
N. Bethesda, MD



Searching: COHEN (London), COIRA, (Minkovsty, Ukr.), ELLMAN (Minkovsty, Ukraine), FAGIN (Dvinsk, Latvia), GREENBERG (Rzeszów, Galicia), GRUDMAN/GRUBMAN (Kedainiai, Lit./Riga, Lat.), KOTZEN (Riga, Lat./Birzhay, Lit.), KREIGER (Riga, Lat./Kedainiai, Lith.), LUFFER, ((Riga, Lat./Birzhay, Lit.), MAIDMAN (Minkovsty, Ukr),ROSENBERG (Lomza/Nowogrod, Poland), STORCH/STOCK (Rzeszów, Galacia), STERN (Narajow/Narayiv, Galicia), SZRENZIL (Narajow/Narayiv, Galicia), WYSZYNSKI (Mlawa, Poland)

Program on Jewish Heritage of Philadelphia #announcements #usa

Nurit Har-zvi

There will be a program from the Queens Borough Public Library on the Jewish Heritage of Philadelphia on Tuesday, April 12 at 6PM EDT. You do not need a library card for this program, nor do you have to register (the link is below).
Nurit Har-zvi

Jewish Heritage Trail of Philadelphia with Oscar Israelowitz on Tuesday, April 12 at 6pm. Join here.

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The story of the Jewish community of Philadelphia is the story of growth and development of the city from its early days in the 1730s. We will see the Religious Liberty Monument designed by the first American Jewish sculptor, the Synagogue of the Revolution, founded in 1740, and Elfreth’s Alley, site of the oldest continuously-used residential street in the United States and its Jewish residents since the early 1700s, among other historical sites.


Join here:
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Tuesday, April 12


Seeking Info on Philadelphia Bank Immigrant Passage Records,1890-1949 #records #usa

Eric Ellman


According to Ancestry, there is a record of a possible family match for Itte Sosonwsky; Account open place, Philadelphia; Blitzstein Bank, Book 5; Pg. 92.

Since more information is not available online, does anyone know where I can get a copy of this record?

Kol tuv,


Eric J. Ellman
N. Bethesda, MD



Searching: COHEN (London), COIRA, (Minkovsty, Ukr.), ELLMAN (Minkovsty, Ukraine), FAGIN (Dvinsk, Latvia), GREENBERG (Rzeszów, Galicia), GRUDMAN/GRUBMAN (Kedainiai, Lit./Riga, Lat.), KOTZEN (Riga, Lat./Birzhay, Lit.), KREIGER (Riga, Lat./Kedainiai, Lith.), LUFFER, ((Riga, Lat./Birzhay, Lit.), MAIDMAN (Minkovsty, Ukr),ROSENBERG (Lomza/Nowogrod, Poland), STORCH/STOCK (Rzeszów, Galacia), STERN (Narajow/Narayiv, Galicia), SZRENZIL (Narajow/Narayiv, Galicia), WYSZYNSKI (Mlawa, Poland)

Re: Deaths during Spanish flu epidemic #usa

Peter Cohen

I found her...
She is enumerated in the 1915 census as Anna, living at 410 East 9th Street.

On you can find her death record under
Annie Kaledeuks
born Russia 16 Jul 1874
died Manhattan 16 October 1918
address 410 East 9th Street
Father: Abraham Perelman
Mother: Rebecca Wedowas
Burial: Mount Zion Cemetery
Certificate # 30594

The ancestry transcription for this record spells her name Kaledeux

She is listed in the Mount Zion Cemetery online database as Annie Kalednikes, buried in the Public Ground in Section 20R.  I have done some photographing in this section. It is quite large and full of flu victims. Sadly, I did not happen to photograph her gravestone.
Peter Cohen

research in Berlin and help for translation from german #translation

Christine Lassiege

Hello to all

Some cousins, who left Minsk Mazowiecki, emigrated to Berlin in 1890. I would like some advice to do some research about them, the only records I found are on ancestry.

And I am looking for someone who could help me with translation of handwritten documents.

Thank you in advance for your help

Christine Lassiège - France

Name searched : Trojna Josek, Trojna Sarah & Fraenkel Gerson, Trojna Ester & 1) Hurwitz Eddie & 2) Schonwetter David, Trojna Brandla & Kohn Albert

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Re: Looking for NYC grave of David Edenbaum died in Haverstraw landslide in 1906 #usa

Sherri Bobish


You may be able to locate a burial permit.  I am not certain where to find one from 1906.  Perhaps someone else on the discussion list will know.  This page has some info:

David's probate file can be seen at
in their database:  New York, Kings County Estate Files, 1866-1923
There is no info regarding the cemetery though.  The probate was filed Jan. 18, 1906, and his date of death is given as Jan. 8, 1906.  You had written that he passed on Jan. 18th.

there is an article dated March 1, 1906 in The Columbia Weekly Republican that talks about Mrs. Edenbaum bringing a lawsuit in regards to her husband's death.

It seems that Pauline also called herself Paula.  That may help in searching for more info.

I see notices in newspapers as late as at least 1909 regarding Mrs. Edenbaum's lawsuit(s).
For instance, in The Brooklyn Daily Eagle 12/23/1909.  Edenbaum vs Excelsior Brick Co.
Supreme Court, Special Term Trials.
Good luck in your search,

Sherri Bobish

RATOWSKY / CHAIMSON (Ariogala, Lith.)
LEFFENFELD / FINK / KALTER (Daliowa & Jasliska, Pol.)
BOJDA / BLEIWEISS (Tarnow & Tarnobrzeg, Pol.)
WALTZMAN / WALZMAN (Ustrzyki Dolne, Pol.)
LEVY (Tyrawa Woloska, Pol.)
SOLON / SOLAN / SOKOLSKY (Grodek, Bialystok, Pol.)

Translation on ViewMate #translation

David Buford

Please help with a translation - the most important is all names (relationships if known), places, births, marriages, deaths
and any other interesting facts. Thanking you in advance.
Linda Gold Buford

                      Kobryn, Belarus Belarus - KAMENETZKI - KAMIENKA
                      Russia - SALIMAN, SCHREIBER, SEGAL, WALDMANN
                      Israel - PALTER

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