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Re: Looking for possible Jewish Ancestry name Koch in Germany
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ab12cohen@...
On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 04:37 PM, TommyN wrote:
Hanß David Koch is surely an old German way of writing Hans David Koch, nothing to do with the Hebrew which would be Han ben David. I don't believe there was such a name as Han.Alan Cohen
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JGASGP Meeting All are welcome to attend Rich Venezia discusses C Files
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#jgs-iajgs
Sunday, May 15, 2022 Time: 1:30 PM check in, chat, and schmooze (Optional) Official program starts promptly at 2:00 * (NOTE THE LATER START TIME) Speaker: Rich Venezia, an expert in the research of 20th-century immigrant ancestors Topic: USCIS Genealogy Program: Certificate Files (C-Files) Location: Congregation Rodeph Shalom 615 N Broad St, Philadelphia, PA 19123 Rich Venezia is a New Jersey native who now calls Philadelphia home. He founded Rich Roots Genealogy in 2013. He was a member of the research team of Genealogy Roadshow (PBS) for two seasons, and also consulted on Follow Your Past (Travel Channel). He is an expert in the research of 20th-century immigrant ancestors, especially underutilized record sources and federal records. He also specializes in Italian and Irish research. Additionally, he assists clients with dual citizenship applications for Ireland and Italy, and is a proud Italian dual citizen. He holds a Certificate in Genealogical Research from Boston University. He lectures nationwide, and spoke about "How to Grow Empathy From Uncovering Your Roots" at TEDx Pittsburgh 2017. Rich Roots Genealogy https://www.facebook.com/richrootsgenealogy https://twitter.com/RichRootsGen Check out my TEDxPittsburgh talk: Search Youtube for "How to Grow Empathy From Uncovering Your Roots"
Topic: USCIS Genealogy Program: Certificate Files (C-Files) SHORT: This lecture will examine the ten different sub-series of C-Files, which document naturalizations or repatriations of individuals from 1906 – 1956, currently available through the USCIS Genealogy Program. It will also introduce A-Files, and specifically discuss when naturalization records would be found in A-Files instead of C-Files, and how to order records from the USCIS Genealogy Program.
FURTHER DETAIL: The C-Files held by the USCIS Genealogy Program include C-Files, OL C-Files, OM C-Files, OS C-Files for naturalized citizens, Derivative A C-Files and Derivative AA C-Files for derivative citizens, and B Certificates, D Certificates, 3904/Series Records, and 129/Series Records for repatriated citizens. Each sub-series is quite unique and the circumstances that would lead to a search for each type of file will be discussed. A brief overview of A-Files will discuss when both a C-File and an A-File might exist, and when naturalization paperwork is found in A-Files as opposed to C-Files.
*Note that there is SECURED FREE PARKING. Congregation Rodeph Shalom of Philadelphia, founded in 1795, is the oldest Ashkenazic synagogue in the Western Hemisphere. There is a virtual tour on their website.
We are meeting in person for the first time since the beginning of the pandemic. We will also livestream this meeting for members only. We are not using Zoom. The link is called Boxcast.
We will follow all covid protocols for the city of Philadelphia. Currently, mask wearing is mandatory in the building. Bring a mask. Please join us at this beautiful, historic building for our first hybrid meeting. -- Marilyn Mazer Golden, Membership VP membership@... Jewish Genealogical and Archival Society of Greater Philadelphia Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA www.jgasgp.org
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Re: Gravestone translation for Chaia Sarah Jablow
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davidmdubin@...
H(ere) L(ies)
our dear mother Chaya Sarah daughter of the rabbi “Reb” Moshe died 15 Elul (5)680 May her soul be bound in the bonds of (everlasting) life Reb is an honorific like “mister” but he was a rabbi the last line is a very common boilerplate abbreviation on tombstones. -- David Dubin Teaneck, NJ
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Re: Unidentified Ashkenazi Jewish Man
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Oren Kaplan
For those interested in the Unidentified Ashkenazi Man, it may be worthwhile to know of the information found
on discussion groups that have been dealing with the case over the years: 1. Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/me-jonesport-wht-othermale-60-65-up15307-in-ocean-clothes-watch-jul00.31410/page-2 2. CrimeWatchers: https://www.crimewatchers.net/threads/jonesport-john-doe-wm-60-65-found-in-atlantic-ocean-off-jonesport-me-24-july-2000.1145/ 3. Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/gratefuldoe/comments/r0ji9b/washington_countyjonesport_john_doe_2000/ In addition, further details apparently provided by state officials about the man can be found on entries for him on these sites: 1. The DoeNetwork https://www.doenetwork.org/cases/704umme.html 2. The DNADoe Project: https://dnadoeproject.org/case/jonesport-john-doe-2000/ All the best and with hopes someone can connect the dots to identify him. Sincerely, Oren Kaplan Librarian
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Re: Did you go to a Jewish summer camp?
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Abe
I went to Camp Machanayim for the whole summer of 1940. I have no idea of where it was. What I do remember is that I didn't like (understatement) the food and that I, who liked to read, couldn't find books to enjoy. I refused to go to camp again. Seek the peace of Jerusalem Abe Lebowitz
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Re: Gravestone translation for Chaia Sarah Jablow
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ramot418@...
"Here lies our dear mother Chaya Sarah, daughter of Rabbi Moshe, died 15th of Elul 5620" (August 29, 1920)
---------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Goldberg Jerusalem, Israel Researching: Sagan/Shagan family from Veliuona (Velon), Lithuania Goldberg family from Vidukle, Lithuania Susselovitch/Zuselovitch family from Raseiniai (Rassein), Lithuania
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Re: Did you go to a Jewish summer camp?
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Shimona Kushner
I went to Habonim Camp Kvutza in California in the 50's and 60's, was also a madricha (counsellor),so if you are interested I would be happy to participate.
Shimona Yaroslavsky Kushner Haifa, Israel (formerly from Los Angeles) shimona@g.technion.ac.il
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Re: Looking for possible Jewish Ancestry name Koch in Germany
#germany
binyaminkerman@...
I am much less knowledgeable about DNA tests than many of the other people on this group but I think less than 1% could likely just be a statistical artifact and might not be real. I assume the record that you found for Hans Koch was in a Jewish database or you have some other reason to think he was Jewish, in general the Ashkenazi custom is not to name a child after a living person so for the father and son to both be named Hans (if they also shared whatever Hebrew/Yiddish name it corresponded to) would be unusual but not impossible. Without seeing the record it would be pretty hard to figure out what exactly it meant. Also as a side note if the marriage was in 1674 it's unlikely that he was born around 1600 because he would be quite old especially given the life expectancy of the time, but anything is possible. Being able to see any of the records would help to try to clarify more.
It's really amazing that you have family trees going back that far, I wish my family had such an extensive tree
-- Binyamin Kerman Baltimore MD Researching: KERMAN Pinsk SPIELER Lodz, Zloczew, Belchatow SEGALL, SCHWARTZ Piatra Neamt
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Two Jewish Communities in Bessaabia /Romania/ (today Moldova): Rezina, Bălți (3,471 km), by Edgar Hauster
#bessarabia
Yefim Kogan
Bessaraber,
You might be interested to read and see photos from Edgar Hauster trip in Republic of Moldova. Here is a link to his blog: http://hauster.blogspot.com/ Be aware that there are a number of very interesting links in that article: Vanished World:
Jewish Heritage:
Rezina during the Holocaust:
The Story of Bălți:
Edgar Hauster usually writes about Bukovina, and sometime Moldova. I suggest to read these great stories, travel diaries, etc. All the best, Yefim Kogan Bessarabia SIG Leader and Coordinator
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JGS Toronto. Free Virtual Meeting. Comparing the Genealogy Giants Sunny Morton. Wednesday, 1 June 2022, 7:00 PM ET.
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#jgs-iajgs
Jerry Scherer
JEWISH GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY OF TORONTO
Comparing the Genealogy Giants
Ancestry.com, FamilySearch.org, Findmypast.com, and MyHeritage.com
Wednesday, 1 June 2022, 7:00 PM. ET. (please note an earlier start)
Virtual doors open at 6:50 PM ET.
The “genealogy giants”, all provide tools and records for researching family trees online. But which should you use? Learn why you should be familiar with all four sites; subscription and free access options; and how they compare for historical record content, family trees, and DNA tools. Get insider tips on each site's best features, and cautions or challenges while working with each. This has been an extremely popular lecture with audiences at RootsTech, RootsTech London, Legacy Tree Genealogists, and elsewhere.
Sunny Morton is an award-winning writer and a globally popular lecturer. She is a long-time Contributing Editor at Family Tree Magazine, Contributing Editor and Content Manager for Your DNA Guide, frequent contributor to the blog at FamilySearch (the world's biggest free genealogy website), and past Editor of Ohio Genealogy News. Known internationally for her astute comparisons of the giant genealogy websites, she is author of How to Find Your Family History in U.S. Church Records, with Harold Henderson, CG, and Story of My Life: A Workbook for Preserving Your Legacy, now in its 2nd edition.
To register for the 1 June event , please go jgstoronto.ca/register. You will then receive an immediate acknowledgement plus the link to access the event on 1 June.
The presentation will be recorded. It will be available to JGS Toronto members in the “Members Only” section of the Society website a few days after the event. It will also be available to non-member registrants for one week after the event in the “Registration” location.
The presentation will be recorded. It will be available to JGS Toronto members in the “Members Only” section of the Society website a few days after the event. It will also be available to non-member registrants for one week after the event in the “Registration” location.
To our guests, consider joining our membership for only $40.00 per year by Clicking Here or consider a donation by Clicking Here to assist us in continuing our mission providing a forum for the exchange of genealogical knowledge and information. (Canadians receive a CRA tax receipt.)
Tel 647-247-6414 twitter: jgsoftoronto facebook: Jewish Genealogical Society of Toronto
Jerry Scherer Vice President, Communications
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My great aunt from (Beregszasz or Demecser) Hungary was Piroska, nickname Piri. She immigrated to Israel after the war. I’m still on the hunt to find records of her arriving in Israel (Haifa) and of her death record. She came to visit us in Cleveland in the 1960’s. She was my father’s ‘modern’ aunt. As far as I know, she never married.
Piroska (Piri) BERNATH Lisa Bernath n2dzine2@... searching: Bernath, Grosz, Weiner, Tabak, Kornstein
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Re: Gravestone translation for Chaia Sarah Jablow
#translation
Diane Jacobs
Haya Sarah daughter of Rabbi Mr. Moshe
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Diane Jacobs
On May 14, 2022, at 4:27 PM, DALE ZEIDMAN via groups.jewishgen.org <dszeidman=verizon.net@...> wrote:
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Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey
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Re: Did you go to a Jewish summer camp?
#usa
Yale Reisner
ב״ה I spent many summers during the ‘60s and ‘70s at Camp Ramah in the Poconos in Lake Como, PA.
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Gravestone translation for Chaia Sarah Jablow
#translation
DALE ZEIDMAN
Hi all,
Please translate the gravestone of my great-great grandmother, Chaia Sarah Jablow.
Many thanks, Dale Zeidman, Researching BUKANTS/BUKANTZ (Ukmerge, Lithuania); JABLOW (Minsk, Belarus); MAGADENKO/MAGEN (Kyiv, Ukraine); ZAITCHEK/ZEIDMAN (Evanka/Vynohrad/Uman, Ukraine)
-- Dale ZEIDMAN New York
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Seeking correct name and location of "Rosopovitch", Belarus
#belarus
Ronald Killian
Subject: Seeking correct name and location of “Rosopovitch” in Belarus
My wife’s grandfather Morris (Moshe Mordechai) GARELICK was born in Parichi, Belarus in 1888. I have confirmed that the family moved to Bobruisk, about 1895-1897 based on my research (including the recorded birth of a brother in Bobruisk in 1897). Morris immigrated from Bobruisk to Rochester, New York in 1907. A grandniece of Morris recently gave me some notes from her conversation with Morris, in which he said that the family also had resided, when he was a young boy, in Sislovitch (which I believe is Svisloch near Bobruisk) and “Rosopovitch”. This surprised me, because he did not mention these two communities in two oral histories from the 1970s. The family thus would have moved twice between Parichi (residing there as late as 1888) and Bobruisk (1895-97). I have tried locating Rosopovitch or similar-named community but have not found it in Where Once We Walked, other books, and online sources. I expect the village or town would be in the same area as Parichi, Svisloch, or Bobruisk. I appreciate any help in identifying this community and its location.
Ronald Killian Newton Centre, MA
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The Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Miami The Clandestine Jewish Immigrants to Palestine from Muslim States prior to Israel's independence
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#jgs-iajgs
Yoram Millman
Dear Fellow Researchers,
Please join us for a Zoom meeting initiated by the Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Miami and Temple Beth Am's Sunday Salon. We will be discussing The Second Exodus: The Clandestine Jewish Immigrants to Palestine from Muslim States Prior to Israel's Independence. The featured speakers are Lyn Julius, Founder of Harif, UK Association of Jews from the Middle East and North Africa, Dr. Haim Saadon, Ben-Zvi Institute (Jerusalem), and Dr. Henry A. Green, Founder of Sephardi Voices (Moderator). Please register to get a link:-Yoram Millman JGSGM VP Programming at jgsgm.vpprogramming@... With warm regards, Paulette Bronstein President JGSGM
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Re: Seeking Set of Mannemer Newsletters - update
#germany
Ronald Killian
I would like to submit the following message for publication in the Discussion Group, as an update to my 23 March inquiry (copy below). Thank you for the wonderful service that you provide us every day. Ron Killian
Subject: Seeking Set of Mannemer (Mannheim) Newsletters #Germany On 23 March I posted a request seeking the location of a complete set of “Mannemer Newsletter”, published by Bianca Zwang HIRSCH. The 42 Mannheim, Germany-oriented newsletters were published from January 1991 through December 2014. I want to acknowledge and offer my thanks and appreciation to the replies from Werner FRANK and Reuven MOHR, and especially from Edward David LUFT, who led me to the complete set in the Leo Baeck Institute (LBI) library in New York City. My discussions with Tracey FELDER at LBI and Bianca’s son Clifford HIRSCH have resulted in an agreement between LBI and Mr. Hirsch that grants LBI permission to digitize its set of newsletters and to post them on its website. This process may take a number of months to complete, as the project had to be included in the LBI queue of documents to be digitized, but I am most grateful to both parties for this arrangement.
One more request: Ms. Felder told me that one newsletter, #41 from 2014, is missing from its collection. While I am checking possible sources for Issue #41, if anyone knows where to find that one particular issue, please contact me privately. Thank you again for the Discussion Group’s invaluable assistance and support. Ronald Killian Newton Centre, MA
From: Ronald Killian <ronskillian@...>
Subject: Seeking Set of Mannemer (Mannheim) Newsletters #Germany
I am seeking a complete set of the “Mannemer Newsletter”, a periodic, stapled newsletter by and for Mannheim, Germany survivors and their descendants. My mother Renate/Renee ENGEL and her parents escaped from Mannheim in June 1939, made it to England two days before Hitler invaded Poland, and arrived in the US in September 1940. The newsletter was published by Bianca Zwang HIRSCH of San Francisco, CA. There were at least 40 issues dating from 1990 to at least 2012. I have most of the newsletters from Fall 1999 (#18) to Fall/Winter 2012 (#40) but would like to obtain a complete set to digitize and make available online, possibly on JewishGen to accompany the “Reflections By Jewish Survivors From Mannheim”, published in 1990 by Robert KAHN, who allowed me to provide an electronic copy that has been included on the JewishGen Yizkor Book site. Last year I tried to contact Bianca, offering to scan the complete set, but sadly she and her husband had died in 2020 and 2019 respectively, and their children do not have a set of the newsletters. I do not need the paper set, if a subscriber does not want to send it to me. I will cover the cost of the subscriber’s scanning the set. Please reply to me privately at ronskillian@... . Thank you for helping me preserve and make available these memories. Ronald Killian, Newton Centre, MA
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Re: Burial in Jaffa 1860s-1890s
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shamue@...
Yes. You can check it with the Tel Aviv-Yafo Hevra Kadisha .
-- Tzvika SHACHAM
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Re: Did you go to a Jewish summer camp?
#usa
Bob Smiley
I went to Camp Merrimac in Contoocook, NH for five years. The last year I was a Councilor in Training.
-- Bob Smiley Kirkland, Washington USA
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Re: Did you go to a Jewish summer camp?
#usa
Barbara Zimmer
I worked at Cejwin Camps (Port Jervis NY ) for one summer as a waitress. I remember that there were two separate kitchens, two separate sets of dishes, etc. Barbara Zimmer
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