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Re: Need Help With DNA Puzzle #dna

EdrieAnne Broughton
 

Everyone seems to blame ghettos for endogamy but religious groups with marriage rules also contributed to endogamy.  My own ancestry (on both sides) has Society of Friends (Quakers) but in different geographical areas.  The rules of the religion allow members to marry but only to other members and need the consent of the congregation.  The only way to marry outside of the religion would be for the non Quaker proposed spouse to apply to join and to be accepted...then to go through the process to get the marriage accepted.  In doing research on some Jewish in-laws, I've found some of the same sort of pressures in Europe in the early to mid 1800s.  The only good news in my Quakers is they kept careful records, even when they were fleeing areas where persecution was occurring...now if I could retroactively outlaw repetitive naming patterns.  
EdrieAnne Broughton, Vacaville, California


HOW CAN I FIND PHOTOS OF COUPLE WHO HELPED MY MOM IN MOUNTAINS? #slovakia #records #holocaust

tzipporah batami
 

 

 

BOLD AND CAPS ARE ACCOMODATIONS. MY MOM WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PICTURE OF THE COUPLE WHO LED THEM FROM THE CAMPS TO THE MOUNTAINS TO SAFETY BUT WE REALIZE PERISHED IN THE MOUNTAINS WHEN THEY SEPARATED. THEY ARE FROM SLOVAKIA AND MY MOM DOESNT EVEN REMEMBER THE WIFE AND WE WANT TO ARRANGE KADDISH ASSUMING THEY BOTH PERISHED TOGETHER. WHERE WOULD I START? I DONT KNOW WHERE THEY WERE BORN BUT THEY LIVED IN MICHALOVCE DURING WARTIME BEFORE NOVAKY CAMP. THANK YOU. NB THEY ARE NOT IN YIZKOR BOOK BUT WE WILL ADD THEM.

FEIGIE TEICHMAN

 


Subj: ViewMate translation request - Russian #translation

Alexander Press
 

I've posted a vital record in Russian with which I need a small bit of help.

In this birth record, I am able to recognize the names of the people involved and also, I think, the town and district, but I cannot decipher the second word in the second column from the right. Does it name an occupation?

The record is on ViewMate at the following address ...

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM98903
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much for your help!

Alexander Press
Press, Branski/Briansky, Kaplan, Terk, Itzler, Salit, Ehrlich, Tepper
Bialystok, Bransk, Vilna, Utena, Moletai, Pastavy, Vidzy, Yezupil, Kozowa


ViewMate translation request - Russian #translation

Alexander Press
 

I've posted a vital record in Russian with which I need some translation help. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM98902

I am primarily interested in the bottom row of text, item 148. However, one column of item 148 (the second from the right) apparently repeats information from the previous item, 147, which is why I included it in the image. I am assuming that this information concerns dowry and witnesses of the marriage.

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much.

Alexander Press

Press, Branski/Briansky, Kaplan, Terk, Itzler, Salit, Ehrlich, Tepper
Bialystok, Bransk, Vilna, Utena, Moletai, Pastavy, Vidzy, Yezupil, Kozowa


Re: Social Security Cards (SS-5) #general

Mary D. Taffet
 

Amy,

If your great-grandmother's record appears in the Social Security Death Index, you do not need to supply any additional information at all.  The only time you would need to provide information about the death is if your great-grandmother is not found in the Social Security Death Index.

The SS-5 will generally provide the name of the person at birth (so her maiden name should be on there), their birth date, their birth place, and the names of both parents.  In the case of my husband's four grandparents, we did not know the names of the parents of 3 of them, so finding the names of the parents was very useful.  And two of the surnames had been changed at some point after arriving in the US, and the SS-5 provided the original surname in those two cases.  I ordered all 4 of them back in the 1990s just before a price increase for ordering them was put into place.

And one of them revealed a big surprise in that Irving/Isadore Siegel had been named at birth Samuel Saminowitch.  We knew the surname had been changed, but had no idea that his first name had also been changed.  It wasn't changed formally, but rather his much older sisters from his father's first marriage said he didn't look like a Samuel, so suggested the other name (Isadore/Irving).

-- Mary D. Taffet
     Syracuse, NY
 

On 6/19/22 3:29 PM, amitch1066@... wrote:

Hi Jewishgen folks,

A few questions about ordering an SS-5 (Deceased Person's Original copy) for my great-grandmother (d1973).

  1. What kind of information comes with an SS-5? 
  2. I can not find a death certificate for the deceased person, but I know they will accept a statement of death from the funeral director.  What does the director need to include? 
  3. And will my application be disqualified if the funeral director is not the one who performed the service?
  4. Should I ask for certification?

Thank you in advance!

--
Amy Mitchell_._,_._,_


Re: Hungarian Translation Requests #translation

Trudi Reisner
 

I posted the following 3 documents for translation from Hungarian to English on ViewMate. Please respond using the online ViewMate form. Thank you very much.

Trudi Reisner


Online index or data base for DP camps after WWII? #holocaust

DBarany
 

Greetings to everyone,
 
Does anyone know of databases or indexes for the survivors in DP camps after they were liberated from the Camps?
 
I am searching for the sister of my grandmother. The family was from the area around Cluj in the Transylvania region of Romania. I have her maiden name and the name of her second husband, but not the surname of her first husband and children. She survived but sadly her husband and children did not. I do not know their names. 
After the war, she went to a DP camp and then to Palestine. She remarried another survivor who she met while in the DP camp.
 
Thank you all for your generosity,

Deborah

 
--
Deborah Barany, Ph.D.
Barany Educational Consulting, LLC
503-314-0728
 
Member: IECA, NACAC, LDA

--
Deborah Barany
deborahbarany@...


Re: German Jews incarcerated in England/Scotland during WW2 #holocaust #germany

Eva Lawrence
 

I found the alien registration cards and the 1939 Register on ancestry.co.uk, since at the time I didn't subscribe to FindMyPast.   Anyone with a world-wide subscription to Ancestry  or, of course the UK version, should look for the register in the card catalogue (which is about to disappear). However, one must realise that minors, who might still be alive, were supposed to be blacked out on the Register, so only guesswork based on the adults in their lives will locate them. 
-Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.  


Re: German Jews incarcerated in England/Scotland during WW2 #holocaust #germany

ronald Wallace
 

Had it not been for the internment that took place I would not be here. My Father who had already started his own business in a government provided factory in the North East of England, was put into an internment camp while he awaited his naturalization papers. He was there only for a few months, but during that time he met a fellow internee who was a close friend of my Grandfather and who, after release from the camp, introduced my Father to my Mother and the rest is history.

Nothing I have heard about the camps was anything more than an inconvenience while the internees awaited their papers or other documents and they were well treated.

 

Ronald Wallace

Apollo Beach, FL


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Social Security Cards (SS-5) #general

amitch1066@...
 

Hi Jewishgen folks,

A few questions about ordering an SS-5 (Deceased Person's Original copy) for my great-grandmother (d1973).

  1. What kind of information comes with an SS-5? 
  2. I can not find a death certificate for the deceased person, but I know they will accept a statement of death from the funeral director.  What does the director need to include? 
  3. And will my application be disqualified if the funeral director is not the one who performed the service?
  4. Should I ask for certification?

Thank you in advance!

--
Amy Mitchell


Translation from Polish of birth record for Haim Wasserstein #poland #translation

Relly coleman
 

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM98915

It is for Haim Wasserstein marriage I belive in 1837.

Please respond in email or via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much,
Relly Coleman


Re: Need Help With DNA Puzzle #dna

ninaschw
 

Dear Jeri,
I agree with other responders who have suggested endogamy.
Think of Jews living in ghettos and shtetls over a period of 500-1000 years. Compared to the more open European communities of towns and cities, they comprised a very small gene pool. Instead of diversifying, the same genes were likely to be combined and re-combined.
--
Nina Schwartz
artstop@...


Re: Was my grandmother a bigamist? #general #usa

ninaschw
 

Polyandrist, actually—but I see why you used the term bigamist. I agree with the fellow researchers who suggested Florida and Reno, NV. The divorce need not have been granted in New York City, or even state. BTW was Mr. Fitzer still living at the time of your grandmother’s second marriage?
Best of luck with your search.
--
Nina Schwartz
artstop@...


Re: Russian records #russia

Alan Shuchat
 

A Google search reveals some sites with information about records for Nizhnyi Novgorod.

FamilySearch has images of revision lists up to 1858, so they may have records of your great-grandparents, but these are unindexed records (images only). 
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/2115663

Here is an article about the 1897 census in Nizhny Novgorod: https://vk.com/wall-56122476_3395?lang=en 

Here is an article about the central archive for that region:
https://dissertationreviews.org/jll-charge-needs-image-ok-central-archive-nizhnii-novgorod-region/ 

Here is a listing of archive fonds that may have 1897 census records for that region (in Russian, but use Google Chrome to translate it): 
https://arch1897.histcensus.asu.ru/regions/#713

--
Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA

SHUKHAT (Talnoe, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta (Abazovka), Pogrebishche)
VINOKUR (Talnoe), KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
ZILBERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets), BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolskiy)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)


Death record translation request #translation

Richard Stower
 

Would someone kindly translate the death record of MOJZES FELLNER, Aka# 58.

Thank you.

Richard Stower
Yarmouth, Maine
 
Researching Kolomyya: SECHESTOWER, SPIERMAN, THAU, BEISER, GRAFF. 
 
Chortkiv/Budaniv: GROSS, FELLNER, HOCHMAN
 
Dobrowa Tarnowską: KANNER, SCHMIDT


Re: Need Help with Hebrew Translation from a Gravestone, Please! #translation

shimonsporn
 

Considering that the stone has both the Hebrew Date of death and the Gregorian calendar date of death, it is clear that the deceased,
Tzvi the son of Moshe Mordechai died November 20, 1927, Sunday evening sometime between sunset and midnight, which was the beginning of the 26th day of the Jewish Month of Cheshvon, in the year 5688.

Shimon Sporn
Beit Shemesh, Israel

 

 


Re: Can anyone recognize this uniform? #general

csicher@...
 

These are two brothers who served in the Austria-Hungarian army in WWI. The seated man had a higher rank, hence a different uniform.
--
Carol Sicherman
Oakland,CA


Re: German Jews incarcerated in England/Scotland during WW2 #holocaust #germany

Robert Weinberg <weinberg@...>
 

Mr. Salit's note is hard to reconcile with my grandfather's experience as an internee on the Isle of Man. These were the best 6 months of his life, as he lived in a former resort hotel.  The notion that the Jews were murdered and mistreated by the Brits, as Mr. Salit writes, is simply untrue, as I know from the accounts of others, including cousins who enlisted in the British army.  Bob Weinberg, Brookline MA


Re: Was my grandmother a bigamist? #general #usa

kisanders
 

You might also want to check Florida records. My aunt traveled there to get a divorce from her first husband because the divorce laws were more liberal there. I found my aunts divorce listing on Ancestry dot com.

Karen I Sanders
West Haven, CT


Re: German Jews incarcerated in England/Scotland during WW2 #holocaust #germany

Jill Whitehead
 

It is not only German Jews, but those who were born in the old Austro Hungarian Empire that became part of Nazi Germany, who escaped to UK and were treated as enemy aliens.  The Dukes family lived in my house for 46 years  and they escaped from Vienna in 1939, where they had lived since 1911. The parents came from respectively what is now Slovakia  (near Bratislava) and Hungary (near Budapest). Their daughter had been born in Vienna in 1912 (as had a son born in 1916 but who died in Crystallnacht), and she lived until 1983. The Dukes father was interned briefly for 6 months somewhere in the London area. 

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK

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