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New Jewish DNA From 14th Century Erfurt #sephardic #dna #germany

Adam Cherson
 

If you haven't already heard, a halakhic loophole has allowed researchers to take DNA samples from 14th Century Jewish remains in Erfurt (https://twitter.com/ShaiCarmi/status/1526850050772590592).


This is an interesting day for those of us studying the topic, because the Erfurt data are the first set of samples I know of allowing for an in depth view of 14th Century, N. European Jewry.

 

According to a simple model I've formulated, the three Erfurt clusters represent: 1) Erfurt1a: older N. European Ashkenazim (perhaps descendants of the first wave of Jewish migration to the area circa 800-1100 CE); note that modern German Ashkenazim in the same cluster area as Erfurt1a, 2) Erfurt1b: a wave of migrants from Spain (many Jews were fleeing from Sepharad as early as the Granada Massacre of 1066 and after the Almohads conquered Sepharad circa 1121 until about 1269); on the scatter, Erfurt1b clusters nearby to modern Sephardim; 3) Erfurt2: this is the one that I find most fascinating because it introduces a new aspect to the history which I had not thought about until now: a wave of Jewish migrants coming from the Southern Italian Peninsula seem to have acquired Avar-Longobardic genes since the time when the Longobards and their Avar allies invaded those territories. I am not too clear on the exact historical exigencies that brought this group to N. Europe, nor when the migration may have occurred, but I believe that the data support a period of Jewish-Avar hybridization in Southern Italy (and possibly N. Italy as well) from about 650 CE until 1000 CE. Could the Avars be the answer to the riddle of Central Asian genes in the Ashkenazic population? We shall see....

 

I really don’t know too much about the Avars, besides their Uralic linguistic affinities, but I suppose they could be the vector bringing the unusual East Asian genes into the Erfurt samples, via the Longobards in S. Central Italy. According to this recent study: https://doi.org/10.1101/2022.01.19.476915, the Avars received Xiongnu genes before coming into the Pannonian Plain. According to Amorim, et al, (DOI: 10.1038/s41467-018-06024-4) the Avars became allies of the Longobards (the sample SZ1 which is on the scatter is a later burial from a Longobard cemetery in the Pannonian area, reported in this paper). Amorim goes on to say: “the Longobard duchies of Spoleto and Benevento ruled much of the inland areas of the [Italian] peninsula…” This would have been the time of the Lombard princes Pandulf and Landulf.  It is known that Benevento was a Jewish population center during this period (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benevento#Jewish_history), so there appears to have been an opportunity for introgression.

 

I am not sure what to make of the Erfurt3s: I14897 appears to be a Sephardic-S. Italian hybrid. I13867 could be a Original Ashknenazi-S. Italian hybrid.

 

An interesting aspect of this model is that the Erfurt average point clusters with modern Eastern European Ashkenazim which suggests to me that we see in Erfurt, the ingredients which were later to become the Eastern Ashkenazim population.

 

There is much to be unraveled here and I am curious to see what models others make of these data.


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Adam Cherson
NY, NY


(US-NYC) Jewish Theological Seminary Exhibit on Rare Ketubbots #announcements #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

 

 

The Forward publication has an article under culture about a new exhibit showing how Jewish marriage evolved- from 12th century -century Egypt to modern-day America. “To Build a New Home: Celebrating the Jewish Wedding” It is the first show in the Jewish Theological Seminary’s library new gallery with rare ketubbot from different centuries and continents:” from 17th and 18th century Italy; a 13th-century French religious compendium outlining marriage rituals and including a bawdy wedding poem; a fragment from a 12th-century prenuptial agreement affirming the right of the groom’s mother-in-law to live with the married couple; and from the modern era, a ketubbot making it possible for Jewish women to initiate a religious divorce.” The JTS weblink for the exhibit is: https://www.jtsa.edu/news/library-exhibit-jewish-marriage/

 

The exhibit is available from May 18-August 14, 2022.

 

Ketubots are a genealogical resource with names of parents of the bride and groom and much more. It deals with a variety of marital responsibilities-it describes the grooms rights and responsibilities towards the bride.

 

To read the Forward article see: https://tinyurl.com/murcy8zr

Original URL:

https://forward.com/culture/505916/jewish-theological-seminary-to-build-a-new-home-ketubah-jewish-weddings-museum/

Note: The Forward is a subscription periodical. It permits several free access articles per month.

 

Information on visiting the exhibit and about the exhibit is available at: https://www.jtsa.edu/news/library-exhibit-jewish-marriage/

 

The JTS is located at: 3080 Broadway (at 122nd Street), New York City

Summer library hours: Monday and Wednesday, 8:30 am – 8:00 pm, and Tuesdays and Thursdays, 8:30 am – 7:00 pm. 

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 


Margolioth rabbinic dynasty— Galicia #galicia #rabbinic

Dan Rottenberg
 

I recently discovered the 18th-Century Galician rabbi Yosef Margolioth, son of R. Alexander Sender Margolioth (1730?-1802), who was rabbi of Zbaraz and Satanov. I speculate that this Rabbi Yosef may be identical to my great-great-great-great-great-grandfather Joseph Margulies, who died in Zbaraz in 1828 at the age of 70.

 

Several sources have suggested that all Jews from eastern Galicia with some variation of the name Margulies/Margolioth are descended from the famous rabbinic family to which Alexander Sender Margolioth belonged. In the 1770s Alexander Sender Margolioth succeeded his father-in-law as rabbi of Zbaraz, the eastern Galicia town where five generations of my Margulies relatives lived during the 19th Century. Two nephews of my great-grandfather Louis Margulies (1864-1923) told me many years ago that some ancestor, possibly their great-grandfather, had been a rabbi.  

 

Thus I’ve spent many years searching for the connection between my Margulies ancestors and the Margolioth dynasty, which can be traced back to the Katzenellenbogens and Rashi. Yosef Margolioth strikes me as the possible missing link, but I need to know more about him to confirm this connection.    

 

R. Yosef is not mentioned among the children of Alexander Sender in Neil Rosenstein’s The Unbroken Chain. But Yosef is mentioned in a Margolioth tree by Yehudah Klausner. A Geni.com entry by Randy Schoenberg (updated 21 July 2019) calls him R. Joseph Margolioth, ABD Zmigrod, birth estimated between 1743 and 1793. According to Meir Wunder's Elef Margalit, R' Yosef Yoska, son of R' Sender of Zbaraz, was av beis din Zbarazh, and signed beis din documents in Czortkov (96 kilometers due south of Zbaraz) between 5566-5572 (1806-1812). In Wunder’s Morei Galicia, in the entry on R. Alexander Sender, Wunder mentions that Alexander’s son R. Yosef was rov of Zmygrod (succeeding his brother, Yehudah Aryeh Leibish), but makes no reference to Zbaraz. Wunder says R. Yosef was son-in-law of R' Yehoshua (no surname), who was Rosh Hakahal in Drogobycz (a town southeast of Lviv and about 200 km east of Zbaraz). R. Wunder does not give any other information on R. Yosef Yoska, either in Elef Margalit or in Meorei Galicia.

 

Does anyone know anything more about this R. Yosef Margolioth? In particular, who were his children? What was his wife’s name? Dates of his birth and death? The answers might help me determine whether he is my ancestor.

Dan Rottenberg
Philadelphia PA
dan@...

 


Looking for feedback on Polish tourguide Tomasz Cebulski, #poland

Jake Jacobs
 

Looking for information on Polish tour guide Tomasz Cebulski. My brother contacted the Polin Museum and was put in touch with Tomasz for a day long tour of Auschwitz.  Does anybody have experience with him as a guide? As a genealogical researcher? Any suggestions on working with him?

Many thanks -

Diane Jacobs
Austin, Texas


Hebrew Translation #translation

Isabel Cymerman
 

Can someone translate the Hebrew on this grave of Goodman and Rebecca Rose?  Thank you very much in advance.
 
Isabel Cymerman
Southbury, CT
isabelcym@...
Searching:   CUKIERMAN, GRYNBERG, GRYNFARB, LUBELCZYK, ZABAWNY - Siedlce
                   DRONZNIK, NEMENCHINSKI, SAPOZHNIK, SOLECZNIK/SOLC, TABACZNIK - Vilna
                    CYMERMAN, KHELEMSKI, LANSKI, WYSZINSKI, ZYSKIND - Przedborz
 


Re: Brick Wall -->Epiphany -->Breakthrough #usa

Michele Lock
 

I'm glad you were able to figure out the one town was Kosava in Belarus.

What I do when I've been able to locate one town for certain, but have close relatives giving other names for their town of origin, I go to Google maps, and blow up the region around the town name, in this case Kosava. Then I look for nearby towns (actually villages) that have names in Belorussian that sound similar to the names given in documents. For instance - Lubizetz: about 10 miles east of Kosava is the village with the name Liubishchitsy. In Yiddish, the last syllable was often left off of names, and the "i" after an 'L' was usually left out. This would give the name "Lubishchits", very close to the name "Lubizetz". 

And the names Brasew and Rastonbresie: Kosava is located in the Brest region of Belarus. I think the 'Brasev' and 'bresie' are referring to Brest. And the 'Raston' part of the second name - this may refer to the town Ruzany, located about 14 miles northwest of Kosava. Ruzany did have a synagogue, according to the Jewishgen page on the town. 

I would, however, be interested in others' opinions on this matter of the town names.

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Michele Lock

Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock and Kalon/Kolon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai, Lithuania
Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock in Plunge/Telsiai in Lithuania
Rabinowitz in Papile, Lithuania and Riga, Latvia
Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman in Dotnuva, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine/Lev/Lew in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus


Re: Help with Hebrew Translation on Gravestone please #translation

shimonsporn
 

I forgot to translate the verse  from the Prophets Samuel / Shmuel A, 25: 29, that is traditionally engraved on Jewish tombstones

May his (her) soul be bound in the bundle of life

Shimon Sporn of Beit Shemesh, Israel

Researcher # 57380

Perl, Margolies, Itzkowitz, Lehrer families from Kisvarda, Fenyeslitke, Ustilug,


Re: Can't find IKG-Wien Trauungsbuch B, 1873 #austria-czech #records

David Lewin
 

At 17:20 21/06/2022, m.rind via groups.jewishgen.org wrote:
I have been frustrated in my attempts to find a certain IKG-Wien metrical book. GenTeam and JewishGen both have an extract of a certain marriage record from 15 May 1873 (marriage of Berthold Wilheim-Kohn and Pauline Weiss, born Tauber), which they locate in a book designated "B" at record number 282. But I cannot find a corresponding book anywhere on FamilySearch either in the catalogue of " IKG Matriken 1784-1911" (the indexed records) or in that of "IKG Matrikel, 1826-1943" (the largely unindexed records). I find Trauungsbücher with preceding and following letter designations ("A," "C," etc.) and covering the preceding and following years, but "B" and "1873" seem to be missing. I have gone through the catalogues repeatedly and can't find the corresponding book. Yet such a book must exist, because GenTeam and JewishGen both have an extract from it! I am wondering if I have a weird blind spot or if a particular book was removed from the FamilySearch catalogue for some reason. Can someone either locate the book or tell me why it is missing?

As my query is so specific, replies are probably best made by email.
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Miles Rind
Seattle, Washington, USA


In the absence of a solution, try   https://www.ikg-wien.at/en/contact

David Lewin
London

Search & Unite attempt to help locate people who, despite the passage of so many years since World War II, may still exist "out there".
We also assist in the process of re-possession of property in the Czech Republic and Israel.
See our Web pages at https://remember.org/unite/


Re: Brick Wall -->Epiphany -->Breakthrough #usa

Moishe Miller
 

Thanks for sharing your success, especially after so many years. Have you tried researching Tillie's widower father, Benjamin, who is enumerated with Tillie in the 1920 census. He was the son of Eliezer, per the tombstone at https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/143697956/benjamin-abramovitz
I would think that the "Leizer", Tillie's brother, was named for his grandfather.
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Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY
moishe.miller@...
JGFF #3391


Can't find IKG-Wien Trauungsbuch B, 1873 #austria-czech #records

m.rind@...
 

I have been frustrated in my attempts to find a certain IKG-Wien metrical book. GenTeam and JewishGen both have an extract of a certain marriage record from 15 May 1873 (marriage of Berthold Wilheim-Kohn and Pauline Weiss, born Tauber), which they locate in a book designated "B" at record number 282. But I cannot find a corresponding book anywhere on FamilySearch either in the catalogue of "IKG Matriken 1784-1911" (the indexed records) or in that of "IKG Matrikel, 1826-1943" (the largely unindexed records). I find Trauungsbücher with preceding and following letter designations ("A," "C," etc.) and covering the preceding and following years, but "B" and "1873" seem to be missing. I have gone through the catalogues repeatedly and can't find the corresponding book. Yet such a book must exist, because GenTeam and JewishGen both have an extract from it! I am wondering if I have a weird blind spot or if a particular book was removed from the FamilySearch catalogue for some reason. Can someone either locate the book or tell me why it is missing?

As my query is so specific, replies are probably best made by email.
--
Miles Rind
Seattle, Washington, USA


Re: Visiting Ukraine #galicia #ukraine

Steven Turner
 

I toured the same region that you are planning to and I highly recommend Alex Denisenko - tuagtuag@.... as a guide. He lives in Liviv. He should be able to answer all of your questions.

He is an excellent researcher also which should help you in planning your trip.

Steven S. Turner
Roslyn, NY


International Archives Day Video Produced by TsDIAL in Lviv #galicia #records #ukraine

Steven Turner
 

In honor of International Archives Day Olesia Stefayk, our Archival Advisor at TsDIAL in Lviv made this brief video on the importance of archives and how they are protecting their contents in light of the current hostilities.
We thank Olesia for this important work they are doing and for sharing this video with us.
https://youtu.be/EGzsl0UWDeY

Steven S. Turner
President, Gesher Galicia


Re: Online index or data base for DP camps after WWII? #holocaust

Lewis, Megan
 

The Arolsen Archives has DP camp records for the American, British and French zones, as well as for Austria and Italy.

The World Jewish Congress had survivors in Romania fill out questionnaires in 1945.  USHMM indexed them as part of the World Memory Project.  You can search these records in our Holocaust Survivors and Victims Names database, www.ushmm.org/online/hsv/source_view.php?SourceId=19805.  This is the direct link to this specific collection.

Megan Lewis, reference librarian
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum 


Re: Need Help With DNA Puzzle #dna

ab12cohen@...
 

I seem to have to opposite problem.

MyHeritage constantly sends me "DNA Matches" alleging 2C 3C etc etc but with less than 100cMs. So far, although several are claimed to be connected with the same 1CR of mine, neither he nor any of the "matches" have turned out to be known to us.

Is there any point to this or to even chasing them up? The only definite identifiable matches have needed 200 cMs or more. 

Alan Cohen


Re: Rabinovich Lubov Yakovlevna #ukraine #names

Sherri Bobish
 

Sergey,

Have you tried The JewishGen Ukraine Database?
https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Ukraine/

I suggest using phonetic and/or soundex searches on names, as names get spelled in various ways in the records.

Good luck in your search,

Sherri Bobish


Re: Help finding relatives information Batya /Betty Ruch #usa

Sherri Bobish
 

Pinchas,

Betty KATZ married Herman V. RUCH in Oct. 1962 in Woodbury City, Gloucester County, New Jersey.

Herman Valentin Ruch was born 21 Feb 1912 Woodbury Heights, New Jersey.
Herman passed on 25 Mar 1989.
Herman's parents 
Herman J Ruch and Elisabeth Hummel.

Herman's obit gives Betty's former name as BLUM.  It mentions that Herman is the step-father of Irene SNYDER, Sandra WOLFF, and Lewis KATZ.

Could BLUM have been Betty's birth surname, and KATZ her first husband?
 


Re: HOW CAN I FIND PHOTOS OF COUPLE WHO HELPED MY MOM IN MOUNTAINS? #slovakia #records #holocaust

tzipporah batami
 

THANK YOU FOR REPLYING. WHEN MY MOM REVIEWED HER STORY WE SEARCHED AND FOUND THEY HAD NEVER MADE IT AND WE HAD TO PUT THEIR NAMES IN YAD VASHEM. WE KNIW THE COUPLE WAS TOGETHER IN THE CAMP. PEOPLE.SEPARATED IN MOUNTAINS ALL TIME AND MY MOM DOESNT RECALL THE WIFES FACE.AT TIME THEY ACTUALLY LEFT MR MANDEL AT THE FIRST HUT. SO WE WANTED TO GET PIC TO JOG MEMORY TO MAKE YARZHEIT ACCURATE. WE DID WRITE SLOVAKIAN MINISTRY AND NO ANSWER. I HOPED SOMEONE AT JEWISH GEN MIGHT HAVE AFCHIVE OF EUROPEAN PASSPORT AND MARRIAGE PHOTOS. IF ANYONE HAS KNOWLEDFE OF SUCH A DATABASE WOULD HELP. OR ANYONE KNOWING MANDEL IN SLOVAKIA WITH FAMILY PHOTOS.

FEIGIE TEICHMAN


Offering New Montefiore Cemetery photos (West Babylon, NY) #photographs #usa

A. E. Jordan
 


I am starting to plan a photo trip to New Montefiore Cemetery in West Babylon, New York likely for this Sunday, June 25

Please note this is not the one known as "Old" Montefiroe in Springfield Garden in Queens .... they are related but this is the Long Island one ... they are about 40 miles apart. 
 
Process I follow is fairly simple in offering to take photos for people.
 
You ID the grave from the cemetery's online database and send me the details. I take a photo and email it to you and in turn I appreciate a few dollars to help defer the expense of doing this for everyone, ie gasoline money.
 
I am happy to help out where I can, but please don't send me a generic name and ask me to find the person at the cemetery and please don't send me around the cemetery to find the 20 people named Jack Cohen because one of them might possibly be your long lost cousin. The cemetery is massive and a few people have asked me to do that and it is a very slow process that takes a lot of time and gasoline, etc.

Also if you are asking for an infant or child's grave please tell me. They are mostly in separate areas of the plots and a lot of those graves do not have markers.
 
New MOnte Fiorehas an online database. It is better if you search the name on their database versus the commercial Find a Grave because the position information and data is better at the cemetery's page.
 
Feel free to ask me questions via email and ask about other NYC area cemeteries because I will visit most of them as the summer progresses. There's a few I do not go to because of distance or safety issues.
 
Please respect the discussion group and send your specific requests to me privately by replying to this email or my email address aejordan at aol dot com.
 
Allan Jordan
New York



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Offering Wellwood Cemetery photos (West Babylon, NY) #photographs #usa

A. E. Jordan
 


I am starting to plan a photo trip to Wellwood Cemetery in West Babylon, NY on Long Island likely for this coming Sunday June 25
 
Process I follow is fairly simple in offering to take photos for people.
 
You ID the grave from the cemetery's online database and send me the details. I take a photo and email it to you and in turn I appreciate a few dollars to help defer the expense of doing this for everyone, ie gasoline money.
 
I am happy to help out where I can, but please don't send me a generic name and ask me to find the person at the cemetery and please don't send me around the cemetery to find the 20 people named Jack Cohen because one of them might possibly be your long lost cousin. The cemetery is massive and a few people have asked me to do that and it is a very slow process that takes a lot of time and gasoline, etc.

Also if you are asking for an infant or child's grave please tell me. They are mostly in separate areas of the plots and a lot of those graves do not have markers.
 
Wellwood has an online database. It is better if you search the name on their database versus the commercial Find a Grave because the position information and data is better at the cemetery's page.
 
Feel free to ask me questions via email and ask about other NYC area cemeteries because I will visit most of them as the summer progresses. There's a few I do not go to because of distance or safety issues.
 
Please respect the discussion group and send your specific requests to me privately by replying to this email or my email address aejordan at aol dot com.
 
Allan Jordan
New York



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Rabinovich Lubov Yakovlevna #ukraine #names

Sergey Frolov <frolov.sergei82@...>
 

I'm looking for my wife's grandmother. She is Rabinovich Lubov Yakovlevna (after first married her surname become Nosonova).
She was born in 1906 in Zolotonosha city in Poltavskaya area in Ukraine.
I will want find the record for her first married. I wrote into the Zolotonosha's archive, but they can't find anything.

Could someone give me advice, there and how I can looking for it?

Sergey Frolov

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