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Prerau, Moravia, #austria-czech

henry wellisch
 

My cousin's grandfather Wilhelm Muller was born in 1876 in Prerau (now
called Prerov) in Moravia. Wilhelm's father Jonas was a rabbi and I
want to find out if he was officiating in Prerau. Is there a list of
Prerau rabbis during the 2nd part of the 19th century available? Also,
does the Prerau Familanten book exist and is this available?
Henry Wellisch
Toronto


Re: German Jews incarcerated in England/Scotland during WW2 #unitedkingdom #holocaust

Jill Whitehead
 

Ancestry.co.uk has a large number of Broch's among its WW2 Alien Internee records - from a variety of places, Germany, Austria, Slovakia, Hungary, Poland etc. See Travel and Migration records. 

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK


Re: Unable to identify town in "Russia" #russia

Marianna Toth
 

what if the pronunciation of the city name should be English?
This case Valka maybe Velke, etc.
best regards
Marianna Toth


Re: Saskatchewan Cemeteries Project link #canada #names

Marion Werle
 

My great grandfather was the Rabbi/Shochet/Mohel for the Lipton community in Saskatchewan from 1909-1922, after which he made aliyah to join the younger half of his family (his older children were in Canada). His name was Joseph Molchadsky, and according to the local history of Lipton, Trails and Tales of Settlement and Progress; Lipton and District 1875-1975, he was known as "Reb Joseph." There is a short section (pp. 45-47) on the Jewish Cemetery, that also contains a list of graves. It is likely that my great grandfather presided over these funerals during his tenure in the community. He died in 1925 and is buried on Har ha-Zeitim.
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Marion Werle
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Re: Unable to identify town in "Russia" #russia

Odeda Zlotnick
 

On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 04:27 AM, Frank Szmulowicz wrote:
Other than sz, this combination of letters is not Polish; in particular, Polish has no v and no Polish word ends on szr, unless it is an abbreviation. 

No doubt Frank knows what his is talking about.

That said, we have no reason to assume the census taker spelled to town's name "correctly".  He may have been from another country, and could have been using the phonetic spelling of his native language.  For example: the "sz" diphthong in Polish indicates the English "sh"  but in Hungarian it indicates the "ss" you find in the word "hiss". 

You don't mention the census year. Country borders changed, and these changes are reflected in records. For example: Warsaw, that we recognize as the Polish capital, belonged to the Russian Empire in 1900.

Try searching other pages with the same census taker's handwriting to see if it helps you interpret this town name. 
 
--
Odeda Zlotnick
Jerusalem, Israel.


Re: Border Crossing Manifest Card #canada #records

Brian Kerr
 

Great question. I was thinking of the same deduction as what you did.

I would suggest that you ask this question within the following History Hub forum (free registration of course).

https://historyhub.history.gov

I've asked a few questions within a few different topics and someone was always provided something helpful there regarding the older Government/Military Forms (with links and such).

Though I'm not referring to anyone here that may know the answer as well.

I wish you the best of luck! :-))

-- ~Brian D. Kerr, Esq | SSG, U.S. Army (Retired) | SSA, Brigade G1, U.S. Army (Retired) |>>Known Family Surnames (Researching): Dessler, Walk(Valk), Mahler (Maler), Paradisgarten (Paradisegarten), Tomasy (Thomashy), Gluck, Preisz (Priess), Steinhardt (Steinhart), Grossman (Grosman), Sholtz (Shultz), Kaplan, Bloom, Fischer (Fisher), Levy, Baum, Duwidewic, Meisal (Maisel)<<|>>Known Family Locations/Regions (of Surnames): Poland, Ukraine, Russia, Hungary, Lithuania<<|


Re: Unable to identify town in "Russia" #russia

Frank Szmulowicz
 

Other than sz, this combination of letters is not Polish; in particular, Polish has no v and no Polish word ends on szr, unless it is an abbreviation. 
Frank Szmulowicz


Border Crossing Manifest Card #canada #records

Susan&David
 

This is a 1945 manifest for a Canadian border crossing.  This immigrant
is admitted for permanent residency.  On the fourth line down, left side
is the title  "C.I.V. No."  and the entry 162  I believe I.V. may be an
abbreviation for Immigrant Visa.  Can anyone suggest a meaning for the
initials C.I.V. ?   I have looked up Mexican border crossings and the
same card is used, with the same title "C.I.V No."  in this same block.

David Rosen
Boston, MA


Re: Pope Orders Online Release of WWII-era Pius XII Jewish files #announcements #general #holocaust

Susan J. Gordon
 

Kerzter has written many excellent books. I recommend The Kidnapping of Edgardo Mortara, (1998) about a 6-year old Jewish boy in Bologna Italy in 1858 who was taken away from his family because (it was said) he was secretly baptized by a Catholic servant.

Susan J. Gordon
New York
ZBARAZ - Bialazurker
SKALAT - Lempert, Schoenhaut


Translation of Hebrew on tombstone #translation

Malka
 

Hello,

Passed 23 Elul 5692

Here lies or here is buried (first two letter abbreviation in 2nd line) old man may  G_d avenge his soul

(2 letter abbreviation) reb Avraham son of reb

Ari Teitelbaum from Tshartakov

May his soul be gathered in eternal life (last line abbreviation)

Shalom, Malka Chosnek

 

 


Re: Compound last names from Detmold, Lippe Germany #germany

Hazel Dakers
 

My GtGt Grandmother was Henriette Michaelis-Jena b. Detmold 1820 m Israel Heinemann Heimann 1842 and d 1850 in Luegde after giving birth to four children.
A generation back and several sibs were Michaelis, one Michaelis-Badt and Henriette's father Michaelis-Jena One more generation back and one brother is Jena and the other Michaelis!
I have a note but don't remember from where - that it was a way of distinguishing different branches of the family and is mentioned in histories of Westphalia.
There is a similar pattern in my Heimann family from Luegde where brothers take different surnames.

Jena is a town in Thuringia to which I have not come across a connection.

As we clearly both descend from Joseph MJ and Brendel Gerso. Treuenfels , I should be most interested to know more about the Ritschenwalde connection.

Hazel Dakers, London UK researching
BIRNBAUM &GOLD (Zgierz, Poland), HEIMANN (Luegde Germany & South Africa), MICHAELIS-JENA (Detmold ), NORDEN/NORDON/NORTON (London & South Africa) www hazeldakers.co.uk


German Jews incarcerated in England/Scotland during WW2 #unitedkingdom #holocaust

Elana Broch
 

My father and his brother (both born in Cologne and traveling on Czech passports) were detained in Pentonville Prison upon their arrival in the UK in June 1940.  My grandmother (also born in Cologne) was detained in a different facility.  I have looked through FindMy Past and tried Kew but can find no record.  Any advice?  



Elana Broch
Lawrenceville, NJ
 
 
 
 
 


JGS Cleveland presents “Patronymic Naming and Cemetery Research - Their Importance in Jewish Genealogy” with Nolan Altman, Wed, July 6, 7 pm ET on Zoom #announcements #education #jgs-iajgs

Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland
 

Join the JGS Cleveland for our next Zoom program on Wed, July 6, 2022, 7-8:30 pm ET: “Patronymic Naming and Cemetery Research - Their Importance in Jewish Genealogy” with Nolan Altman.

 

Program: Headstone inscriptions provide one of the most important tools for those researching their Jewish genealogical history, patronymic naming. This presentation will familiarize the attendees with the evolution of family surnames and the practice of patronymic naming. Recognizing the components of patronymic naming, participants will learn how to take advantage of these clues to link their family through generations. Nolan will go through an actual case study using headstone inscriptions and will show participants online resources to help find headstone information worldwide.

 

The next part of the presentation will show examples of headstones and what you’ll find if you take a trip to the cemetery. Nolan will explain the meaning of symbols that you will find on stones so you can understand the inscriptions even if you can’t read Hebrew. He will also show many examples of inscription trends, some odd inscriptions, and errors in inscriptions … even well-known ones. With a presentation on cemetery records, you wouldn’t expect to leave laughing, but he guarantees you will.

 

Speaker: Nolan Altman is the Director of Data Acquisition responsible for growing JewishGen’s Online Worldwide Burial Registry (JOWBR), JewishGen’s Holocaust Database and Memorial Plaques Project database.  His genealogy experience and expertise is extensive serving in many capacities with a wide range of organizations over the past several decades including president of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Long Island, coordinator of the JewishGen “Holocaust database” with JewishGen, Inc. & the US Holocaust Memorial Museum, and at-large member of the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Associations.  The recipient of the 2021 IAJGS Lifetime Achievement Award, Nolan is an internationally recognized speaker and writer on a variety of genealogy topics.

 

Registration: Required and free - Send an email to rsvp@... by 12 Noon ET on July 6th to receive a Zoom link.  If you are NOT a JGS Cleveland member, please include your name, email, and complete mailing address.

 

Go to jgscleveland.org for more program, speaker, and membership information.

 

 

 

Contact: Deborah A. Katz, JD, PhD

Vice President, Programming

JGS Cleveland
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Re: New Jewish DNA From 14th Century Erfurt #sephardic #dna #germany

Adam Cherson
 

Thanks Kevin,

This covers just about all of the y hgs from the study. There is one more I14846, called simply J(xJ2b) in the paper, with only 58k SNPs, so probably nothing further to be seen there.

It seems that most if not all of the y hgs are consistent with a strong Mediterranean input into the mix, both in the Erfurt1 and Erfurt2 groups.

The mt hgs are preponderantly K1a1b1a, followed by a smattering of various others.

--
Adam Cherson


New Visitors Guide to Jewish Cemeteries in Austria #announcements #austria-czech

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

The National Fund of the Republic of Austria for Victims of National Socialism published a bilingual English and German, “Visitors’ guide to the Jewish cemeteries in Austria” jointly with the  Jewish religious communities and grassroots initiatives. It includes all known Jewish cemeteries as well as Jewish sections of cemeteries throughout Austria. It includes information on over 60 Jewish cemeteries and completed restoration projects. It can be accessed via the website of the Jewish Cemeteries Fund. FOGIS, the geo-information portal of the National Fund, also provides a chance to explore the cemeteries on interactive maps using GPS. In addition to the most important historical facts, information on visiting a cemetery, photos and maps, the guide also provides contact details for arranging guided tours.

There is a link that downloads the table of contents-- This is free.

The guide itself is not downloadable. It is available for purchase and there is a link to order the 145 page publication. office@... 

To read the notice and access the link go to:

https://www.nationalfonds.org/jewish-cemeteries-in-austria

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 


Re: Maharam of Rothenburg Matches 14th Century Erfurt Sample #dna #germany #rabbinic

Dan Rottenberg
 

Meir of Rothenburg died in 1293 in the Emperor Rudolf's castle in Ensisheim, Alsace, where he was held captive for the last seven years of his life. Many of his relatives relocated there after he was arrested and remained in Alsace long after his death. See, for example, the family of the composter Kurt Weill.

I'm pretty clueless about DNA, but as far as I know, Meir had two daughters but no sons.

I have long theorized that anyone with any variation of the name Rothenberg is likely descended from Meir of Rothenburg or one of his disciples. See my letter to Avotaynu (Spring 2004), or contact me privately and I'll send a digital copy to anyone who's interested.
Dan Rottenberg
Philadelphia PA 
dan@...


Help With Hebrew Gravestone Translation Please #translation

Harry Moatz
 

I would appreciate help translating the Hebrew content of the Abraham Teitelbaum's gravestone.
--
Harry Moatz
Potomac, MD, USA
hamoatzi@...
MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately   





ABOWITZ - Lomza
BRODESKY - Berdichev
GOLDMAN / PASNIKOW - Hadiach or Gadyach
GREENBURG - Kiev
KESSLER - Pruzhany
KLAUBER - Sambir or Sambor
SCHWARTZ / SCHWARZ / SZWARZ - Monasterzyska and Stanislawow
TEITELBAUM - Yazloweic or Yazlovets
WARECK and MEYER / MEER - Dembitz or Debica


This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #yizkorbooks #ukraine

Bruce Drake
 

“The Fortune Teller,” from the Yizkor book of Sadagora (Ukraine) reminded me of a famous article in the New Yorker by Joseph Mitchell in 1942 about the gypsy population on the Lower East Side in which he described the livelihood and strategems of the “dukkerers,” or fortune tellers who “preyed mostly on ignorant, middle-aged women” who were worried about their health, their futures or what their husbands might be up to behind their backs.
The chapter tells the story of “a sly old Ukrainian woman (who) could read the past and the future from the lines on a hand, read a fortune from playing cards and kernels of corn, show an old maid her future husband at midnight in a mirror, and – when necessary – procure magic bottles from the devil.” Sometimes, her “readings” are helped by several of her shady assistants who pick up gossip they heard in the town about a client and give her a convincing card to play.
One such customer bemoans her husband Metro who stole ten kroner from her and got drunk.
“I know that,” lied the babushka rapping with her magic staff on the table. “Be still! I know everything, and now just listen … Here is a magic bottle. When Metro sleeps, rub it on his hands so that he will drink and steal less.” She rapped her magic staff on the table and the session came to an end.
As might be expected, the old fortune-teller had run-ins with the police which she quickly solved by bribing them and saying, “One hand washes the other, and both wash the stupid people.”



--
Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, MD

Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK
Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel


LIJGS presents What's New in Family Tree Maker Q & A Discussion Wednesday July 20, 2022 7:00 PM #jgs-iajgs #announcements

Barry Goldberg
 

 
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When: Wednesday, July 20, 2022  7:00PM

 

 

 

 

 
 

Location: Zoom – see registration info below

Topic:

What’s New in Family Tree Maker Q and A Discussion

Speaker:  Mark Olsen

 

Join us for a live Q and A discussion to answer all your questions about Family Tree Maker, the latest version, updates, features and more. This is an interactive session. We love to see you and discuss all your Family Tree Maker questions. We will also talk about Family Tree Maker partner products - Charting Companion and Family Book Creator - both are amazing plug-ins that can help you create amazing charts, graphs, and books. We will even show how you can make additional finds with your DNA test results. This class is for all levels of genealogists whether you are just getting started or very experienced.

 

Mark Olsen is the Family Tree Maker Ambassador to historical and genealogical societies around the world working to support their members as they use Family Tree Maker. Mark is a graduate of Brigham Young University and holds a bachelor's degree in Family History with a Spanish records emphasis. He has been working in the genealogy industry since 2007 and has been the Family Tree Maker Ambassador since 2016.

 

 

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To Register for the Zoom meeting

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Join us for a live Q and A discussion to answer all your questions about Family Tree Maker, the latest version, updates, features and more. This is an interactive session. We love to see you and discuss all your Family Tree Maker questions. We will also talk about Family Tree Maker partner products - Charting Companion and Family Book Creator - both are amazing plug-ins that can help you create amazing charts, graphs, and books. We will even show how you can make additional finds with your DNA test results. This class is for all levels of genealogists whether you are just getting started or very experienced.
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After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the meeting.  

We look forward to seeing you all!

 

And don’t forget on June 26, 2022 2:00 PM by Zoom our meeting Jewish Genealogical Resources In the Archives of Southern and Southeastern Ukraine

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Re: New Jewish DNA From 14th Century Erfurt #sephardic #dna #germany

Moshe Berman
 

That’s really fascinating. I’m not judging at all, but am curious who gave this ruling or where it’s sourced. Here’s why:

I wonder if identification purposes would be permitted if the identification was for moving the body to what is considered a “family plot.“

I asked someone who moved a body on behalf of R’ Moshe Feinstein ztv”l about moving a grave. I understand there are several reasons for permitting exclamation and moving a body:

1. “Kivrei Avot” burial on a family plot with 3 or more other relatives.
2. To be buried in Israel 
3. If a cemetery is in danger
4. if a cemetery isn’t an honorable place. (A Jewish cemetery that becomes nondenominational for example It’s forbidden to say Kaddish in front of a cross, or the like.)
5. If someone is buried alone in a forest. 

One further loophole might be to exhume and rebury in Israel, and then you only have to hope you find detached teeth.

Anyway, thanks for sharing, and if you have more context I’d be fascinated to learn more.


Moshe Berman

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