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Re: DNA help #dna

Theo Rafael
 

Facebook is THE place for DNA discussions. There are quite a few groups on the subject and some very knowledgeable people. I haven't found any other forum which such breadth and depth. Even browsing existing discussions can be very helpful, and one can also pose new questions and get people's input.
As someone already mentioned, it's up to you to divulge (or not) any info about yourself on FB and you could use such an account strictly for genealogy research for instance and ignore other aspects of FB if you're so inclined. To really be in control though you need to learn the intricacies of privacy, notifications etc, it's quite a lot of detail if you start from scratch.
Good luck!

Theo Rafael


Re: DP Camps in Cyrpus #holocaust

Rose Feldman
 

Have you tried the IGRA collection? We don't have everything but we do have somethings.  Also try the JDC collection.  Remember the same name can appear with different spellings, so do to typographical errors or not understanding the pronunciation.
--
Rose Feldman
Israel Genealogy Research Association
Winner of 2017 IAJGS Award for Volunteer of the Year  
http://genealogy.org.il
http:/facebook.com/israelgenealogy


Re: Triangulated DNA matches and Pile-up Areas #dna

Phil Karlin
 

Given the length shorter than 7 cM, I agree it's probably not worth pursuing. I don't disagree with anything Adam or Ellen already wrote. 

That said, I don't think I've ever seen in my results a 5-way triangulation. If you drop #2 (orange) does the triangulation with the others lengthen? How about if you drop #4 (green) as well? 
I think a long shared segment in a pile-up region is still a long shared segment. It just may be from a common ancestor further back than the same size segment in a non-pile-up region, and so less predictive. 

Final thought: whether researching something is "a waste of time" depends on how much time you have and what else could you be spending it on. If the prize is big enough, the investment may be worth it, even if it's a long shot.

--
Phil Karlin
Hartford, CT USA


This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #yizkorbooks #belarus

Bruce Drake
 

There is much to enjoy in “Only Memories Are Left” from the Yizkor book of Dokshytsy, Belarus. I can only compare its words to a vivid painting in its descriptions of the town and its environs.
“Sprinkled with beech trees, the road traverses the forests and the villages… There is silence and only the herdsman's flute dares interrupt the bliss… Not only the flute shatters the tranquility - A great sound suddenly is heard: " Ku ku-ku ku-ku ku-ku ku" - among the tree tops - the mockingbird… A flock of snow-white doves flying among the trees. An eye-full of blossom and new life! A new spring has conquered the land…Autumn - sheafs of standing corn - like wigwams. The smell of dry hay... And, in winter, whiteness and frost. Trees tops and house roofs covered with snow. At home - plated windows. A blazing stoked fire-place, and the windows full of blossomed frost lilies.”
The same eloquence touches stories of Disha leaving for America, the bonding of the people over the making of matzoh as Passover approaches, the joy of the children at the advent of Hannukah, young people sitting on the hay in a barn singing, "with feelings of nostalgia, warmth and love all around."
And the lament that ends the chapter after all these things have been wiped out by the Holocaust:
“In the town: streets, alleys, squares, markets, synagogues and schools. Children, boys, women, grown-ups, elderly - everything is gone to dust. Only stories are left, memories, nostalgia and a heart torn in infinite grief.”



--
Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, MD

Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK
Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel


Using given names to find populations of common descent #names

Robert Weinberg <weinberg@...>
 

Over the past 50+ years as I've pursued research on my Westphalian family I have noticed strikingly variable  patterns of first name usage in various regions within the province of Westphalia.  Since the practice of naming a newborn after a deceased relative was followed, it seems rigidly, these clusters seem to form large kindreds that are descended from common founding ancestors and may (in parallel with genetic/DNA studies) indicate relatively recent settlement and expansion of founding families 3 or 4 centuries ago.  As examples, among the men's names, the area of the Münsterland had many Leffmanns which were virtually absent in neighboring areas to the south and east, Cosmann localized in the area closer to the Rhine including the Ruhr area, Nachmann was virtually absent in most areas of Westphalia but common to the southeast, Sussmann was used almost exclusively in the northern parts of neighboring Hesse (and possibly further south)., Bendix was common in most areas of Westphalia but relatively uncommon further south, Feibes in eastern Westphalia incl. the Münsterland.  I could extend this list and have not studied women's given names because they often appear as diminutives.  I'm wondering whether any of us have ever undertaken such survey to complement the results of DNA sequencing analyses since his approach is able to associate common descent in populations of long-deceased member of these often-large kindreds.

Bob Weinberg, Brookline MA


Re: Triangulated DNA matches and Pile-up Areas #dna

Ellen
 

Lee,

I believe that I attended the same DNA workshop that you did.  I haven't had a chance to try it yet, but the instructor suggested using DNA Painter.  My understanding was that DNA Painter will automatically identify the pile-up regions so you can exclude them.    

I agree with Adam.  Even though MyHeritage is showing triangulation, if the shared segment is less than 7 cM, I would disregard it.  

Ellen 
--
Ellen Morosoff Pemrick 
Saratoga County, NY

Researching WEISSMAN/VAYSMAN (Ostropol, Ukraine); MOROZ and ESTRIN/ESTERKIN (Shklov & Bykhov, Belarus); LESSER/LESZEROVITZ, MAIMAN, and BARNETT/BEINHART/BERNHART (Lithuania/Latvia); and ROSENSWEIG/ROSENZWEIG, KIRSCHEN, and SCHWARTZ (Botosani, Romania)


Radymno 1849 cadastral map now on Gesher Galicia's Map Room #galicia #poland

Jay Osborn
 

We've just posted a new map on the Gesher Galicia Map Room: a full-color 1849 cadastral map of the Galician town of Radymno:

https://maps.geshergalicia.org/cadastral/radymno-1849/

Radymno today is a small town in southeastern Poland, halfway between Jarosław and the border with Ukraine, but the historical map shows that already by 1849 it had a mature town square and built features reflecting growing economic status. Redline revisions made on this copy of the map at an unknown later date (before WWI) indicate changes to building and land parcels including splits, merges, and the straightening and widening of roads. A major change hinted at in the redlines is the taming of the river which once passed just east of the town square, reduced to a narrow channel while the great San River still passes by farther to the east. To the north of the town center at the end of a narrow road, a small Jewish cemetery is seen to be evolving and growing.

This stitched digital composite map was assembled and presented in interactive format by Gesher Galicia. The original paper map is preserved by the Polish State Archive in Przemyśl. To see many more cadastral maps of Galician cities, towns, and villages, visit the Gesher Galicia Map Room:

https://maps.geshergalicia.org/

Jay Osborn
Gesher Galicia Digital Maps Manager
Lviv, Ukraine


Origins of the Sephardic Mendoza family - Sunday Meeting #sephardic

contact@...
 

The Mendoza family of London is believed to be the largest in the Western
Sephardic diaspora, with members scattered around the world. In many
respects, it is a typical example of a poor Western Sephardic family. What
are the origins? What do we know and what do we not know? Using DNA and
archival records from Spain, Portugal, the Netherlands and England, David
Mendoza will present a speculative history of the family from pre-history to
1750s London.

David Mendoza has a background in business-to-business market research and
developing statistical models of markets. He was (then) the youngest person
elected to a committee of the UK's Market Research Society and is a Fellow
of the Royal Geographical Society. For the last few years he has worked as a
professional genealogist. With Ton Tielen he hosts the weekly Sephardic
World talks.

The meeting is on Sunday 3 July 2022 at 11am in LA, 2pm NYC, 7pm London, 8pm
Paris/Amsterdam and 9pm Jerusalem. Patrons can join us on Zoom. The link is
shared at our Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/sephardi Everyone is
welcome to join us on YouTube at:
https://www.youtube.com/SephardicGenealogyAndHistory PLEASE subscribe to the
YouTube channel. It helps us a lot and costs you nothing.

Watch our last speaker, Carol Castiel, discuss The Moroccan Jews of Cabo
Verde - Preservation of Memory. https://youtu.be/PTZzkMiH2O4

Over the last two years Sephardic World has become the leading forum for
learning about Sephardic history and genealogy. We have no commercial
sponsorship or public funding. There is no charge to attend our meetings or
to view our content. If you are not a patron and can afford it, please
consider supporting our work.

Best wishes,

David Mendoza and Ton Tielen
Sephardic Genealogical Society
https://www.sephardic.world/


Re: Alternates for first name Blimah #names

Marcel Apsel
 

Blima can be translated as Flower in English, Fleur in French, Perach, Pericha and Pircha in Hebrew.  Another yiddish variant is Bluma.

 

Marcel Apsel

Antwerpen, Belgium  


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Holocaust Exhibit at Museum of Jewish Heritage-A Living Memorial to the Holocaust in New York City #announcements #holocaust #usa

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

 

The Museum of Jewish Heritage- A Living Memorial to the Holocaust opens a new exhibit: The Holocaust: What Hate Can Do on July 1. The exhibit aims to bring the horrific history to life through hundreds of objects and survivor testimonies including many on display for the first time ever. JewishGen is an affiliate of the Museum.

 

The exhibit uses 750 original objects, photos, film, and personal stories donated by survivors and their families who settled in New York and nearby to "tell a global story through a local lens," a spokesperson from the museum said in a statement. The artifacts speak to times before, during, and after the Holocaust, including Jewish life and experiences of "legalized racism and fascism, pogroms, ghettos, mass murder, and concentration camps."

 

The exhibit also includes an audio tour narrated by several speakers, including actress Julianna Margulies. The audio tour is available to download through the free Bloomberg Connects app. https://www.bloombergconnects.org/

of which the Museum is a partner.

 

For information on the cost of tickets and more see:

https://www.travelandleisure.com/attractions/museums-galleries/new-holocaust-exhibit-new-york-city

 

You are required to sign to register in advance with your name, address and email address.

 

There is a curator talk, The Holocaust: What Hate Can Do on July 7, 2022 which is virtual. While free there is a suggested donation of $10.00.

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 


Re: DNA help #dna

Michele Lock
 

I have to second the suggestion of the above Facebook group. The discussion board there is good for answering questions about the pros and cons of testing at the different DNA companies. It's also good for getting advice on how to interpret the testing results from different companies, and how to use DNA matches to find unknown relatives. 

If you are concerned about Facebook and privacy issues - I have a very lean profile on Facebook, with a fake birthday and only the town that I currently live in listed, nothing else. I'm only on the site for the Jewish genealogy groups there. 

Below is an article that the group moderator Jennifer Mendelsohn wrote about Ashkenazi Jews and DNA testing, and the issue of endogamy:
https://clevertitletk.medium.com/no-you-dont-really-have-7-900-4th-cousins-some-dna-basics-for-those-with-jewish-heritage-857f873399ff
--
Michele Lock

Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock and Kalon/Kolon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai, Lithuania
Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock in Plunge/Telsiai in Lithuania
Rabinowitz in Papile, Lithuania and Riga, Latvia
Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman in Dotnuva, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine/Lev/Lew in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus


SCHÖN, SCHLEICHKORN, Łomna, Poland #poland

Yale Reisner
 

ב"ה
Dear JewishGenners:

The June 28, 2022 edition of the Polish newspaper Gazeta Wyborcza carried a legal notice from the Regional Court in Bochnia, First Civil Division, announcing that a property in the community of Łomna, Nowy Wiśnicz Township has been granted by the local governor to the County of Bochnia for its use.  The properties in question are identified as:

dz. ewid. 34/5 consisting of 0.0337 hectares, separated from the former dz. ewid. 34/1 [LWH 51] and

parcela bud. 54 [LWH 59]  

located in the community of Łomna, Nowy Wiśnicz Township.

The owners of record are:

Leisor SCHÖN
Gołda SCHÖN
Marya SCHÖN
Rachela (née MULLER) SCHÖNOWA and
Marya SCHLEICHKORN.

The Court has given the County of Bochnia permission to utilize the properties for its own purposes in return for its placing in escrow the sum of 7,832.00 Polish złotys.
That sum will be held by the Court for the period of TEN YEARS and will be paid out to those who can prove their rights to the property within that time.

Anyone contacting the Court in this matter should make reference to Docket No. I Ns 115/22.

Best wishes,

Yale J. Reisner
Warsaw, Poland
JGFF #913980

Yale J. 

Anyone contacting the Court in this matter should make reference to Docket No. I Ns 115/22.





Re: Triangulated DNA matches and Pile-up Areas #dna

Adam Cherson
 

Lee,

I'm not a 'degreed' geneticist but have been working as a private researcher for many years. What I am about to say is only my perspective based on experience. In addition to the possibility of pile-up zones, there is another aspect and that is the length of and number of triangulating segments. In your example I see a 6.6 cM segment and do not know whether this is the only one for the group.

My view is definitely in the 'more is better' camp. In my work I tend to disregard anything under 7 cM and especially if it is the only triangulating segment for the group.This is all the more so when one considers that many of the chip-reading programs use something called imputation, which is in effect a way of filling in gaps between segments to make them appear longer.

As with all genetic analysis I feel much more secure when triangulation results are supported by other evidence, both genetic and non. For example I tend to be accept smaller triangulation segments when the overall amount of matching is consistent with the degrees of relationship I am trying to prove for the various group members.

Genetic analysis is often somewhat impressionistic and I don't think anyone can say for sure that this or that segment length is or is not significant. I look at your example this way: if you remove the pile-up zone from consideration, you have a triangulation of about 2.4 cM, which is below what most people, including myself consider significant. Therefore, if this is your only evidence of common ancestry for the group I wouldn't consider this result as proof. If it is only one of several other types of evidence then it could lend a tiny bit of support to the hypothesis.

There is a blog and discussion dedicated to segment analysis which may discusses such matters as segment length and pile-ups in greater detail and may provide you with valuable information: https://segmentology.org/ You may want to re-post your question there for additional opinion and discussion.

--
Adam Cherson


LANDAN, Rabka-Zdrój, Poland #poland

Yale Reisner
 

 ב"ה

Dear JewishGenners:


The June 28, 2022 edition of the Polish newspaper Gazeta Wyborcza carried a legal notice in which the Regional Court in Nowy Targ, First Civil Division, announced that the Court, at the request of one Elżbieta Urbańczyk-Fiorucci, is seeking the heirs to a number of properties located in Rabka-Zdrój.  The properties are identified as:


dz. ewid. nr 515 [LWH 252];  nr 523 [LWH 252]; nr 527 [LWH 252]; nr 535 [KW NS2L/00011086/0]; nr 563 [KW NS2L/00011086/0]; nr 590 [LWH 172]; nr 597 [LWH 252]; nr 601 [LWH 172, 252, 756]; nr 603 [LWH 252]; nr 2715/2 [KW NS2L/00011086/0]; nr 2718 [LWH 252, KW NS2L/00011086/0]; nr 3709/1 [KW NS2L/00011080/8, KW NS2L/00010511/2], all located in Rabka-Zdrój.


The notice lists the names of nearly fifty individuals who are thought to have shares in these properties.  Of all the names listed, only one appears to be Jewish.  The Jewish co-owner is:


Chana LANDANOWA (i.e. Mrs. LANDAN).  Since Rabka-Zdrój is a spa town, Mrs. Landan might have lived in Rabka-Zdrój or might have lived elsewhere and just owned a vacation home there.  Unfortunately, the Court offers no further details about her.


If you are an heir to Mrs. Landan or you have information pertinent to this matter, the Court asks that you make contact within three months of the notice's publication.  In contacting the Court, please make reference to Docket No. I Ns 523/22.


Best wishes,


Yale J. Reisner

Warsaw, Poland

JGFF #913980

<yalereisner@...>.


Re: Searching for Riuva/Rivka/Sonia Levine or Levine #russia #belarus

Michele Lock
 

The spelling 'Riuva' is likely due to a miss-hearing; it could well be Rivka or Rifka. 

Have you looked for other persons with the surname Levine living in Northern Ireland in the early 1900s, in the town (or towns) where your great grandmother lived? It is more than likely that she lived with family when she first came to your country, and probably lived with family up until the time she married. Just be aware that Levin/Levine is a common Jewish surname, and not all persons with this name are related.

The record of a Rivka Levin born on June 6, 1895 - I would get an image the original record (whatever it is), to see if there is any more information on it that might be useful to you. 

As someone else above mentioned, there is always DNA testing. If Rivka had siblings, the great grandchildren of those siblings would be third cousins to you, and some of them might show up as DNA matches, if you and they test at the same company.
--
Michele Lock

Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock and Kalon/Kolon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai, Lithuania
Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock in Plunge/Telsiai in Lithuania
Rabinowitz in Papile, Lithuania and Riga, Latvia
Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman in Dotnuva, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine/Lev/Lew in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus


GEWERC, Lublin, Poland #poland

Yale Reisner
 

ב"ה

Dear JewishGenners:


The June 29, 2022 edition of the Polish newspaper Gazeta Wyborcza carried a legal notice announcing that the District Court of Lublin West, Eighth Civil Division, is seeking the heirs of 


Berek GEWERC, son of Lejbuś & Szyfra (née GOLDMAN), former resident of Lublin, who died March 31, 1942.


Berek Gewerc owned a 3/80 share in an apartment at


ul. Archidiakońska 6 / ul. Grodzka 7, Apt. 7C in Lublin, registered as Parcel No. 79/1, consisting of 0.099 hectares.


The Court calls upon any heirs to Berek GEWERC to make themselves known to the Court within three months of the publication of the notice,  Anyone contacting the Court in this matter should make reference to Docket No. VIII Ns 341/21.


Best wishes,


Yale J. Reisner

Warsaw, Poland

JGFF #913980

<yalereisner@...>

 


Triangulated DNA matches and Pile-up Areas #dna

Lee Jaffe
 

I would appreciate help to determine whether a cluster of triangulated DNA matches is significant or whether it is negated because it is in a pile-up region.  
In the example from MyHeritage, I've identified four people who match me on the same segment – Chromosome #2   88,474,256 - 105,231,018
All of the individuals have fairly strong matches to me, enough that I already considered them higher priority on their own.  The possibility of identifying four matches with a suggestion that we  share a common ancestor might be a useful clue in solving some of my brick walls.



However, I recently attended a DNA workshop where the instructor mentioned that matches in pile-up areas were not useful.  According to the chart I copied, there is a common pile-up area on Chr #2 starting 85,304.243 and ending 99,558,013  As you can see there is some overlap with the triangulated segment I am investigating.  BUT, the triangulated segment isn't completely within the pile-up area where the examples shown during the workshop were entirely within the pile-up area.  Therefore, I wonder ...

Is the triangulated segment significant or not? 

I've found a number of good guides about pile-up areas and also those discussing triangulation but I haven't managed to find anything which relates one to the other.  I'm hoping members of the list can answer this or point me to a source which provides the answer.  I quit Facebook a year ago, so I don't have access to the relevant groups there.  I've tried to join JewishGen's DNA Testing mailing list but haven't yet managed to navigate that resource.  

Thanks in advance for your help,

Lee David Jaffe
===============
Surnames / Towns:  Jaffe / Suchowola, Poland ; Stein (Sztejnsapir) / Bialystok and Rajgrod ; Roterozen / Rajgrod ; Joroff (Jaroff, Zarov) / Chernigov, Ukraine ; Schwartz (Schwarzstein) / Ternivka, Ukraine ;  Weinblatt / Brooklyn, Perth Amboy, NJ ; Koshkin / Snovsk, Ukraine ; Rappoport / ? ; Braun / Wizajny, Suwalki,  Ludwinowski / Wizajny, Suwalki

 


Conversation about Bessarabia #announcements #bessarabia

Cassio Tolpolar
 

It's this Sunday! Please join me in this special event where I will answer questions about my film and have a conversation about genealogy and much more.
LivingStones proudly presents MAMALIGA BLUES
Directed by Cassio Tolpolar
US-Brazil-Moldova | 55 minutes | 2014
Portuguese, Russian, Romanian, Yiddish with English subtitles
In 1931, Abraham Tolpolar and his wife, Rachel, emigrated from Bessarabia (back then Romania and today Moldova) to southern Brazil. 77 years later their only child, Mauro, and his two adult children make the trip back to visit his parents’ birthplace in search for answers to an unrevealed past. They carry with them the only remaining photograph of a lost family grave. The Tolpolar drive through a beautiful landscape from rural village to another, walk through abandoned cemeteries, and meet locals in their quest to find out what happened to their relatives who disappeared during the Holocaust.
Join us on Sunday, July 3,2022
7 PM Zurich time
8 PM Chisinau & Tel Aviv
12 PM Lima
2 PM Rio de Janeiro
10 AM Los Angeles
1 PM NY
Registration: fill out the form below https://forms.gle/PX2SiHCawLX1uHAx5
Happy to see you soon!

Cassio Tolpolar


DP Camps in Cyrpus #holocaust

DBarany
 

Chevrei,
 
I am looking for lists of  Shoach survivors who were in Cyprus on the way to Palestine/Israel.
 
My greataunt immigrated after the war from Cluj and arrived in Haifa Israel in 1948. I am trying to trace her steps from Cluj and Haifa. (source: Arolsen Archives)
 
I am trying to search this site but have not found any records (I have searched in English and Hebrew).
Does anyone have tips or ideas for searching this website?
 
Is anyone aware of other databases/sources to search? 
   

Thank you all for sharing your wisdom
Deborah Barany
 
--
Deborah Barany, Ph.D.
Barany Educational Consulting, LLC
503-314-0728
 
Member: IECA, NACAC, LDA

--
Deborah Barany
deborahbarany@...


Kozelets Family Lists from 1888 Are Translated #ukraine #translation

Beth Galleto
 

Dear fellow researchers,

Tax censuses (family lists) from the Kozelets uezd (district) in 1888 have now been translated and transcribed as part of the Chernigov Gubernia Document Translation Project.

The lists include 169 numbered families made up of 1,136 individuals. Among these families there are 157 surnames. I have extracted these surnames and attached the list to this email. The original pages can be seen online on the FamilySearch website in FHL film 1409779, item 4. 

So far this project has translated tax censuses from six Chernigov uezds in 1882, and from ten uezds in 1888. Data from all except the most recently translated of these lists can be accessed through the JewishGen search page.

Search for your surnames of interest from the lists that have been uploaded by entering each name in the JewishGen Unified Search. When the results page appears, click on those listed for the heading "Ukraine Revision Lists". (The tax censuses or family lists are not actually revision lists, but they are similar enough to be categorized under this heading.)  

Those who donate $100 or more to the Chernigov Gubernia Document Translation Project on the JewishGen website are eligible to view the completed spreadsheets before they are uploaded to the website. Please contact me with proof of your donation if you want to see any of the finished spreadsheets. All donations of any size are appreciated and will continue to advance the project. You can donate through the following link: 

https://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=22

Next to be translated will be tax censuses from the Glukhov uezd in 1888.

Best wishes,

Beth Galleto,
Project Leader

 

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