JGASGP Meeting with guest Hal Bookbinder #announcements #jgs-iajgs

Marilyn Golden


Date: Sunday, July 10, 2022 

Time: 1:00 PM Eastern time (Canada and US) check in, chat, and schmooze (Optional)

Official program starts promptly at 1:30

Speaker: Hal Bookbinder, Genealogical Writer, and Lecturer

Topic: The Bookbinder Family of Philadelphia Restaurant Fame


Hal writes and lectures extensively on diverse genealogical topics, including border

changes, migration, citizenship, safe computing, Jewish culture, and Jewish history. He

has identified over 4,000 relatives reaching back to the mid-1700s in modern Ukraine.

Other roots reach into adjacent areas of Moldova, Poland, Belarus, and Russia. He has

served as president of the IAJGS and has been honored with its Lifetime Achievement


Topic: The Bookbinder Family of Philadelphia Restaurant Fame

The newspaper coverage of the bootlegging trial of Emanual Bookbinder during Prohibition is especially engaging, with lots of twists and turns. But, as Philadelphians, you may

be aware of this. The first Bookbinder, Levi, arrived on the Webster in June 1857. In October, his wife, daughter and 3-year-old son, Simeon, arrived on the Casilda. Simeon

would later be known as Samuel and start his oyster house in the 1890s.

We may leave this meeting hungry!
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Marilyn Mazer Golden, Membership VP
Jewish Genealogical and Archival Society of Greater Philadelphia
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

Re: Announcing the Publication of "Memorial Book of Krynki" #JewishGenUpdates #announcements #poland

Bob Silverstein

I have the book and it is a wonderful and will-illustrated read.  Do consider buying it.  I manage the Krynki Virtual Verein which consists of descendants from this shtetl.  If you want to research ancestors from Krynki, please contact me.

Bob Silverstein
Elk Grove Village, IL

Researching Kaplan (Krynki, Poland) Tzipershteyn (Logishin, Pinsk, Belarus), Friedson/Fridzon (Pinsk, Cuba, Massachusetts), Israel and Goodman (Mishnitz, Warsaw, Manchester).

Re: Mildred/Milly/Millie: Equivalent Names #lodz #names


My great grandmother Millie was also originally Malka.
Sarah Silberston

Searching (Kohen) Shapiros from Minsk area. #belarus #rabbinic


Hello.  I am from the line of Kahana-Shapira (Shapiro) from the Minsk area. My GG Grandfather Yaakov (Yankef, Jacob) Shapiro emigrated to Buffalo, NY at the beginning of the 2oth Century.  His father's name was Eliezer (Lazer in Yiddish.)  I am trying to find out exactly where they were from and how they fall out on the Kahana-Shapira line.  Any help would be greatly appreciated! 

Thanks in advance,

Erik Shapiro

Re: Announcing the Publication of "Memorial Book of Krynki" #JewishGenUpdates #announcements #poland

xan madera

I know the synagogues from Krynki and will be around in August again - mainly in Bialystok with our renovation projekt of Bagnowka Cemetery and
we check now new opportunities for a Jewish Museum ,16th August Ghetto Uprising Memorial Day.
Also i will be in Zamosc, Krasnik, Lublin, Lodz, Krakovia, Opole, Poznan, Wronki, Lviv, Chernovitsky,Warszawa
where parts of my family lived.
muito brigade
regards y a la prochaine from south of France
Shavua Tov
Jan Braunholz / Francfort s/M - Alemania

Re: Identification of Altonshonbach, Bavaria(?), Germany #germany


There is an article about the Jewish community of Altenschoenbach (1814-1942) in Yad Vashem's Pinkas Hakehillot - Germany - Bavaria, page 401.  It was in the district of Gerolzhofen,
Suzanne Erlanger
Petach Tikvah, Israel

Re: Mildred/Milly/Millie: Equivalent Names #lodz #names


My mother's sister, Mildred (1926-2022, b. NY, NY), was named for her maternal grandmother, Mollie (1860-1916, b. Dorohoi, Romania). Mollie was originally Malka, as shown on her ship's manifest in 1908. Mildred's Hebrew name was also Malka.

Felice Bogus
Raleigh, NC

BOGUS: Grajewo
SCHLOSSER: Bialystok
FEINER: Dorohoi, Pittsburgh
KARITSKY/COHEN: Vilnius, Norfolk VA, Omaha

Re: Mildred/Milly/Millie: Equivalent Names #lodz #names

Steven Usdansky

My grandmother's sister, Malka, became Mildred in the US.
Steven Usdansky
USDANSKY (Узданский): Turec, Kapyl, Klyetsk, Nyasvizh, Slutsk, Grosovo
SINIENSKI: Karelichy, Lyubcha, Navahrudak
NAMENWIRTH: Bobowa, Rzepiennik
SIGLER: "Minsk"

Re: Identification of Altonshonbach, Bavaria(?), Germany #germany

Norma Klein

I found a town named Altenschoenbach not far from Nuremberg. Maybe that’s the town you are looking for. Nowadays it is not in Bavaria but in Baden Wuerttemberg.

Norma Klein

Re: Identification of Altonshonbach, Bavaria(?), Germany #germany

Rodney Eisfelder

To find obscure German towns and villages, I use the late Dr Michael Rademacher's Ortsbuch which has been restored to the web at:
All the place names beginning with "Alt" are listed at:
and the best match for your "Altonshonbach" whould have to be Altenschönbach in kreis Gerolzhofen, Bavaria.
It is roughly midway between Wurzburg and Bamberg. You should be able to find it on google maps.
The village has its own web site, and even has several pages on its Jewish community:
There is brief mention of Kalmann Sandel Braun.

I hope this helps,
Rodney Eisfelder
Melbourne, Australia

Re: Identification of Altonshonbach, Bavaria(?), Germany #germany

W. Fritzsche

Dear Mr. Cherson,
probably Altenschönbach was meant
Here som notes about the Jewish life there
Best regards
Wolfgang Fritzsche, prof. Genealogist, Germany

IGRA Free Access Recordings Seminar Day “Aliyah From Far and Wide - Immigration Impacting Genealogy Research ” #announcements #israel

Elena Bazes

The Israel Genealogy Research Association (IGRA) held its annual All-Day Seminar, “Aliyah from Far and Wide - Immigration Impacting Genealogy Research” recently. The lectures were recorded and are now available to all for two weeks after which time the recordings will only be accessible to IGRA members. 

There are 3 lectures in Hebrew and 3 lectures in English. See poster below for the list of lectures. The Hebrew lectures can be accessed from the Hebrew homepage. 

To view the recordings, please register for free on the IGRA website:


After registering, go to  “Recent Posts”.


Elena Biegel Bazes

IGRA Publicity Chair


Re: Using given names to find populations of common descent #names


I can only speak for my family from Moravia and Hungary, but from about 1800 to 1930 the Hebrew names Jeremias and Aaron were used for father/ eldest son.
Thus the two names being used were Aharon ben Yermiyahu ; and Yermiyahu ben Aharon.
The Aarons used Adolf as a secular name until it became unfashionable so they switched to Andor, the Hungarian equivalent of Andrew.
The Yermiyahu were either Jeremias or Isador.

Tom Beer
Melbourne, Australia

Wanting to connect with Rachel Wolf, (researcher code 847818) #usa

Terry Ashton

Rachel Wolf recently emailed me about a family connection, in relation to my
great grandmother Pezza Malka Szumowski, from Lomza, Poland. Rachel's great
grandfather was Sam Osiej/"Shia" Shumovsky, from Lomza, very likely one of
Pezza Malka's brother.
I have emailed Rachel but have not heard from her and am hoping that if she
sees this message on the Jewish Gen Org. discussion group page, she will get
in touch with me.

Ms Terry Ashton, Australia

Re: Triangulated DNA matches and Pile-up Areas #dna

Adam Cherson

"The same question seems to come up over and over again among those new to autosomal DNA testing. If I match A and B on the same segment why is that not enough to prove they match each other and we have a common ancestor?

The reason the ancestor is not proven is that you have two strands of DNA on each chromosome (remember there are 23 pairs of chromosomes) and the testing mechanism cannot differentiate between the two of them. So A could match the piece from your mother and B could match the piece from your father or one of them could even be a false match to a mix of alleles from both parents (see my post on IBC for more on that concept)" from (this is an old post so ignore the techniques shown on the rest of the post)

In the first example, every member of the group matches you but not each other. In the second example the group matches you and they all match each other.

To do triangulation manually you need to see not only who matches you, but then also compare them to each other and see if they match at the same locations. The 3-D Chromosome Browser on Gedmatch gives you a table showing the internal matching of every kit you put into the group (note that the table duplicates each match by reversing the kit order). If you sort this output by chromosome number and then by location you can then see quickly whether there are any identical positions of internal matching between more than any one pair in the group. If you have Tier1 tools there is an automated triangulation app available, which is even faster, and safer. The MyHeritage triangulator also works well with up to seven. I'm not sure what the number limit is on Gedmatch. I do not believe FTDNA, Ancestry, or 23 have triangulation, although I am not up on the latest platform upgrades.
Adam Cherson

Re: Triangulated DNA matches and Pile-up Areas #dna

Lee Jaffe

I very much appreciate the suggestions and comments I've received here and privately.  I think I understand the approaches suggested, have looked at additional guides and sources, and have pivoted, I hope, to a better strategy. 

Before getting into the new approach, I wanted to respond to one note which posed whether this was the best use of my time and energy.  Honestly, I don't know and I hope that exchanges here can help me figure this out before I go to far.  My goal is to extend my family research beyond what I've been able to achieve so far through conventional or traditional methods.  I have a fairly well-developed tree,  which goes back in a couple of cases 9 generations.  But there are some mysteries therein, such as the parentage of my 3x great-grandmother or what happened to my great-grandparents' newly discovered siblings and their descendants. I am hoping that triangulation will help me distinguish DNA matches into groupings according to possible common ancestors with the goal of placing them in my family tree when I follow up with traditional methods.

Therefore, following new sources, I have downloaded my match data from FTDNA, 23andme, and MyHeritage.  I've started to filter and sort the entries by Chromosome number and starting position in order to identify potential triangulated matches.  But the number of entries (~150K lines) is cumbersome and daunting.  Just starting with the beginning of the MyHeritage data, I have more than 100 matches starting at the same position on Chromosome 1.  Given that MH allows you to compare only 7 matches at a time in its Chromosome Browser, I've been trying to find ways to prioritize which would be most likely and most useful.  It's not straightforward.  For instance, I've discovered that a batch of segments with the same beginning and ending location do not triangulate, at least not according to MyHeritage's Chromosome Browser even though it says it allows for segments as small as 2cM.
Chr# Start Location End Location Start RSID End RSID cMs SNPs
1 752,566 4,007,008 rs3094315 rs7519349 7.2 1920
1 752,566 4,007,008 rs3094315 rs7519349 7.2 1920
1 752,566 4,007,008 rs3094315 rs7519349 7.2 1920
1 752,566 4,007,008 rs3094315 rs7519349 7.2 1920
1 752,566 4,007,008 rs3094315 rs7519349 7.2 1920
1 752,566 4,007,008 rs3094315 rs7519349 7.2 1920
Plugging combinations of the above matches from MH into its Chromosome Browser gets a "no triangulated segments" result.  Note: all are above the 7.0 cM threshold recommended in the comments I received. 

Then I looked for other groupings featuring larger segments and had better success with those with segments larger than 10cM.  For instance, in the following batch, all but two of the matches triangulate with each other.  A and F are the exceptions, even though the numbers for A are identical to B, as is F to E.  

A 1 10,825,577 17,954,411 rs11121615 rs12060961 14.6 4096
B 1 10,825,577 17,954,411 rs11121615 rs12060961 14.6 4096
C 1 10,825,577 18,279,185 rs11121615 rs709362 15.3 4352
D 1 10,825,577 18,528,026 rs11121615 rs9725311 16.1 4608
E 1 10,825,577 18,528,026 rs11121615 rs9725311 16.1 4608
F 1 10,825,577 18,528,026 rs11121615 rs9725311 16.1 4608
G 1 10,825,577 19,022,911 rs11121615 rs12563055 17.7 4992
H 1 10,825,577 19,136,610 rs11121615 rs11261075 18.4 5120

I feel like I need to understand why I'm seeing results like this before going much further down this path.  As always, I appreciate your help.

Thank you,

Lee David Jaffe
Surnames / Towns:  Jaffe / Suchowola, Poland ; Stein (Sztejnsapir) / Bialystok and Rajgrod ; Roterozen / Rajgrod ; Joroff (Jaroff, Zarov) / Chernigov, Ukraine ; Schwartz (Schwarzstein) / Ternivka, Ukraine ;  Weinblatt / Brooklyn, Perth Amboy, NJ ; Koshkin / Snovsk, Ukraine ; Rappoport / ? ; Braun / Wizajny, Suwalki,  Ludwinowski / Wizajny, Suwalki


Re: Sending payment to Zhytomyr State Archives #ukraine


Hi Lina  
I just found out a couple months ago that my grandmother Mary (or Marim) Swartz was born in Zhytomyr. I have no other information about her. 
If you know of any families named Swartz  from that area, that would be helpful.

Thank you
Deborah Stone

Re: Identification of Altonshonbach, Bavaria(?), Germany #germany

Eva Lawrence

The first place to look for any mysterious town, village or place in Germany is Meyers Gazeteer. 

Eva Lawrence

St Albans, UK.

Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.

Re: Sending payment to Zhytomyr State Archives #ukraine

Deb Katz

The war is making a mess of all financial transactions with the Ukraine.  I have a researcher who has banks closing on him regularly (sometimes suddenly re-opening for just a few days etc.)  I suggest you follow the lead of the Archives, i.e. let them tell you what will work and won't work at any given point and pay them any way that seems the least we can do given the situation in their country right now.

Deb Katz
Pacific Beach CA USA

Fold3 Free Access to Civil War Collection Through July 17 #announcements #records #usa

Jan Meisels Allen


Fold3, a member of Ancestry family of companies, is offering free access to more than 100 million records from their Civil War Collection through July 17th                  

11:59 p.m. MT.   After the free access period ends, you will only be able to view the records using a paid Fold3 subscription. You can explore service records, pension files, casualty lists and more.

You will have to register with your name, email address and password, no credit card information is required.

If you are an Ancestry subscriber you can also sign in with your Ancestry password.

Go to:


I have no affiliation with Fold3 nor Ancestry and am sharing this solely for the information of the readers.


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee




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